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War Simulator
by hellfire1984
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Description

The main and serious purpose of this system is to help me train in helicopter flight procedures. The fun purpose is to use it with combat and flight simulators and military strategy games.

Software and Addons:

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate, MS Flight Sim X Acceleration, DodoSim Bell 206, Apache: Air Assault, Arma 2, ACE2, ACRE, War Thunder, Arma 3 (tentatively), Wargame Airland Battle (tentatively)

Accessories:

TrackIR 5 with Pro Clip, Saitek X52 Pro Flight System (Magnet Mod), CH Pro Pedals, Gaming chair with rear stereo speakers mounted on a painted PVC structure (built by me), Plantronics BT Headset. The LCD is a Sony Bravia 46".

This was recently put together early April 2013, and I was still working outside the case cable management. I have recently added some pictures that show how I routed the external cables using flexible tubing as suggested in a post below.

All these programs run fine on their highest settings and this system is not overclocked (yet). I am waiting for the system to show stability in continuous use.

Tests with CPU@3.9GHz

Fire Strike Test Results http://www.3dmark.com/fs/392335

3DMark11 Test Results http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6507875

Tests with CPU@4.1GHz

Fire Strike Test Results http://www.3dmark.com/fs/419709

3DMark11 Test Results http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6508042

Questions and suggestions are welcome!

Details
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate4.1GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle35.0° C
CPU Temperature Under Load53.0° C
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.16Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate3.00Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle32.0° C
GPU Temperature Under Load35.0° C
3DMark 11 Benchmark Results
Performance Preset ScoreP10511
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Javanode [1 Build] 3 points 16 months ago

nice! so do you actually flight helicopters in real life?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 6 points 16 months ago

Thank you. Yes I am a helicopter pilot and also somewhat of a computer nerd haha. I believe a nicely put together simulator could help in staying fresh at most of the basic, and some emergency procedure.. and the gaming side is a big plus! hours of entertainment...

 
 
Scaroza [2 Builds] 2 points 16 months ago

Glad to see you went with the C70 in military green, very apt!

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 4 points 16 months ago

haha yeah.. below is my reaction when I was browsing cases and saw that one..

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/264/241/9e9.gif

 
 
bgleonarda [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

Link to your background picture on your computer? :)

Nice build!

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

hey thank you.. I just went to google images and put "Mordor" then filtered by size and stuff.. came up with this one. I found it again, link below..

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7583638360_e088effa31_z.jpg

 
 
duramax08 [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

I saw that background too, i was jelly.

http://www.howtogeek.com/112110/how-to-set-a-custom-logon-screen-background-on-windows-7/

You can do it manually or download the software. I downloaded the software and it works flawlessly.

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

cool, I do it manually but I'm gonna give the software a chance too, thanks!

 
 
Azote [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

WAR THUNDER AWWW YEAH

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

haha yes! this game seems like a lot of fun. I just installed it and I am still going over some settings.. but seems promising.

 
 
Azote [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

You must run the game highest setting and still be able to get 100fps+ but that game just looks soo nice and the graphics are amazing, fun too :)

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Yes it runs solid with everything on highest. Even with VSync enabled. I have just finished the tutorial hehe on "Realistic" difficulty and so far I like it a lot.

 
 
Azote [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

I personaly play on arcade mode lol

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

damn, the game is not easy at all hahaha...

 
 
Azote [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

You're playing on realistic lol

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Also, I have to fix the joystick wobbling.. I'm still calibrating some settings..

 
 
noob_for_life 1 point 16 months ago

nice build!!what is your mouse pad and mouse on?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Thank you, I incorporated a surface for the mouse pad and mouse, its a base of wood supported by PVC and layered with cardboard to get a completely flat surface for smooth movement. It is also attached to the main structure and it is removable and adjustable. I uploaded a picture of it since you asked.

 
 
noob_for_life 1 point 16 months ago

thats very clever!!

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

thanks, I previously had a keyboard stand on the same arm and a trackball attached to the side of the structure, but got tired of the trackball and transformed the keyboard stand into what you see now. it works pretty good.

 
 
hunterawsm007 1 point 16 months ago

I've got that same chair. What are you standing it on?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

haha nice, yes that chair is great. I built a structure out of some nice PVC (still very, very cheap), secured it with two screws at every joint and gave it a goat of matte black. I am 150 lbs but I have tested the structure with up to 200 lbs, still solid.

 
 
NUclearD3 [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Very nice setup!

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Thank you!

 
 
sethi 1 point 16 months ago

Wow... really nice pvc build. Great build. Very similar to what my build would be if I didn't have a budget

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

Thanks! I built this structure about 5 years ago, I had been using it with my old flight sim, but it was time to make some changes and upgrade the CPU! Start with the structure, its gonna last a very long time. Cheers!

 
 
sethi 1 point 16 months ago

Yeah this things intense. One thing, if you took some of this tubing:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tay-38941/media/images (or something similar) and ran your tubing through that it would look awesome. But really great build. I love the fact that you built the chair... and the mouse pad thing is really awesome. Probably one of the best builds I have seen. Definitely the best simulator, by far

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

holy crap! yes that would be a great way to deal with all the cables and stuff... I'm gonna implement it really soon. Thanks!

 
 
sethi 1 point 16 months ago

don't thank me... I saw it on this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/BDp

I just thought it would look totally badassed running from the chair to the computer and stuff... send me pics if you do it

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

wow that looks great, I might do it inside of the tower also, I'll post any changes I make, thanks!

 
 
ZombieHippie [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Hi, hellfire1984, if you were to guess what is bottlenecking your 3DMark 11 score on Preset, what would you guess? Because my Romeo build looks slower on paper, but scored much higher, http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6504960 Any ideas?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Hey Zombie, thanks for your concern.. I noticed the name of the tests were different, I'm running one the says "FIRE STRIKE" and yours says "3DMARK11" not sure if the actual test is the same.. my results doesn't have a "P" at the start I noticed. Also, what driver are you running for your video card?

 
 
ZombieHippie [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

I am just using the latest release from Nvidia, it hasnt been tested by Future Mark yet Here's another Benchmark from 3DMark 11 after a small overclock: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6505568

Otherwise, you should try benchmarking using the basic 3DMark 11 (it's free) because I'd like to see this build in comparison to mine >:)

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

cool. I got the 3DMark Advanced edition free with the purchase of the video card. But I will get 3DMark 11 and benchmark it, will post the results. Thanks!

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

ok I just ran the test.. here it is..

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6507875

 
 
Smily 1 point 16 months ago

Dat SSD... I jelly

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

haha thnx!

 
 
randomjester 1 point 16 months ago

Awesome freaking build and even more awesome freaking desk setup!

+Upvote

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Thank you very much, I'm very proud of it and I'm enjoying it a lot!

 
 
Edmundoh [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

man you skipped your research, you really could have done a lot better for the money you spent, apart from overpriced there's nothing wrong with it, really cool build nonetheless.

Here's what you could have built PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor £167.99 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £89.98 @ Dabs
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard £125.50 @ Ebuyer
Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £38.91 @ Amazon UK
Storage Samsung 840 Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk £249.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £67.58 @ Amazon UK
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card £820.62 @ Amazon UK
Case Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case £99.44 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply £87.13 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer -
Keyboard Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard -
Mouse Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse -
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. £1747.14
Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-02 14:12 BST+0100
 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

thanks for your concern, actually I made an extensive research and decided to pick up this system for various reasons.

I am planing on overclocking my 3770k to a point a 3570k would not be as comfortable. Also it has a larger cache and Hyper-Threading, and runs cooler than the 3570K. I have had bad experiences with Gigabyte Mobos. Asus has never failed me. Neither has Corsair, that is why I picked up 16GBs or RAM of it, a very cool and efficient case, and a powerful and reliable PSU. The mouse just came with the processor and I like it a lot.

I frankly don't see where your "a lot better" comes from..

Also, in your set up you are to spend £1747.14.. is that British Pounds? that equals $2722.04 US Dollars.. so actually I spent $500 less.. is that right?

 
 
Edmundoh [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

Well, you said you're using it for gaming, no mention of anything else. It's a sweet looking build you made but i get the feeling you didn't take time to look into what you were getting for what you wanted, I want to make a point that research really pays off.

"I frankly don't see where your "a lot better" comes from.."

Ok.. I'll explain.

If you change it to usd it comes to $2268 with no rebates.

3770k vs 3570k grants absolutely zero difference in video games.

Fair enough on the motherboard, there are still plenty good ones to choose from ~$120 range eg. MSI Z77GD55

No game has ever surpassed 3 or 4GB of memory, so 8 GB is more than enough.

You get a GTX 690 which is literally twice as better a single 680 since it is actually two 680's on one PCB.

A case can be anything it doesn't matter, the C70 is and looks awesome IMO too.

Your power supply is more than enough to run 4 680's, but will you get 4 680's? I don't know, up to you but realistically you probably won't so a 750w would be perfect if you wanted another 680, or 550W for a GTX690.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $189.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $95.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $135.99 @ NCIX US
Memory Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $64.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Samsung 840 Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $319.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $96.87 @ Outlet PC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card $988.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Microcenter
Power Supply SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $89.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer $22.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Logitech K360 Wireless Mini Keyboard $27.98 @ Outlet PC
Mouse Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse $69.99 @ Best Buy
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $2203.75
Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-02 11:14 EDT-0400
 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

yes I went overkill with the power supply, but I had that in mind, I didn't want to risk it with a bronze 550W. Perhaps later I will get an additional 680, but for now I dont need it, I didn't want to pay $1000 for the 690 :S. I still prefer the 3770 over the 3570, even though HT has no effect in gaming, it still runs cooler. I know I paid for extra wattage and RAM, that perhaps I wont need right away, but I feel comfortable knowing this is a reliable and solid computer. Also, thank you for your advice.

 
 
Edmundoh91 1 point 16 months ago

Good to know then buddy, have a blast with that rig =)

 
 
th3m4dh4tt3r [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

What's your squad in Arma 2 ACE/ACRE?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Hi, I recently joined the derp squad (http://derp-squad.com/), but haven't been able to play with them much. seems pretty laid back I would recommend it. where do you play?

 
 
th3m4dh4tt3r [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

I just got into ACE/ACRE after playing Arma 2 Vanilla for a while, I have been looking for a good squad...I'll have to check them out :D

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

yeah me too, I had the free version and I was very interested in doing more with it, so I bought it..

derp squad plays Wed and Sat nights, very laid back. connect to their TS3 server, there is someone there almost all the time. if you see me, say something too. Player name is Raffo.

 
 
th3m4dh4tt3r [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

K, awesome! I often play as either Alex (my real name) or TheMadHatter.

 
 
Kofi96 1 point 16 months ago

i like the stand for you gamer chair did you build it yourself

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

I built a structure out of PVC, secured it with two screws at every joint and gave it a goat of matte black. pretty solid :D

 
 
Kofi96 1 point 16 months ago

me and my buddy were looking for a way to convert our gamer chairs to computer chairs

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

That's cool, I really like the chairs, but i don't like they are too low.. so even if you are not going to set up a flight sim, a structure to raise the chair would be an excellent improvement.

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hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

nice, where did you fit the radiator, top or back? what are your idle/load CPU temps?

 
 
STRYK3R15 [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Arma is soooo good. How does this run Arma 3? So far, of course.

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

yes Arma is awesome, I haven't installed 3 yet. I'm way too busy with 2 haha but it is something I will be installing later on..

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 15 months ago

New Picutres!!

 
 
TDAxMonster 1 point 13 months ago

why does everyone go 3770. just an open question idk what is better. (4770k 3770k)

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

Went I built this, 4 series were not out yet. I had to build this today, I would go 4 series. its just like $10 more.

 
 
Suren [1 Build] 1 point 13 months ago

forget about the colour mathing with the case but how is the m65 mouse?

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

haha yeah, nice that it matches. the mouse is very responsive and I like the additional "sniper" feature. I recommend it.

 
 
F35FLYER 1 point 9 months ago

Awesome setup. As far as the setup, you could have taken off well over $100 by going with AMD CPU and GPU. They are just as high quality and at a much better price. I am trying to find a chair somewhat similar but in a much more reclined state for a Formula 1 simulator. The way you did the PVC has confirmed my theory of how to do it, thanks.

 
 
hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

thank you for your suggestion, based on my own experience (Previous career in IT), AMD has never showed the stability that Intel units do. That is why I went Intel on this one.

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hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

cool, put it on your profile. How are your 3DMark results?

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hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

im pretty sure it would, havent looked it up.

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hellfire1984 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

damn 5GHz? there is a guy on youtube who OC to 4.9GHz and says it is stable.. I have it at 4.1GHz and im happy (for now hehe)

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