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-All prices are without rebates subtracted (shipping/handling/Ca sales tax has been included) The price you see... is the initial price I paid.

This is a first time build that my son & I did at the end of year 2013. We got some really good combo deals/rebates, & made some select purchases on "Black Friday/Cyber Monday". This machine will be used mainly for home office/gaming/multimedia, also my son is growing up hella fast & I need a place to view/file/print HD family videos/photos... as well as a place for him to complete his schoolwork (& play Minecraft or any other games he may want to add). We may even use it to upload game vids to Youtube. So far all pieces have worked well with no problems or needs to RMA. The only problem I had is that I'm not really a computer expert, so it was hard for me to find the pieces that had reliability with a good product warrantee/guarantee.

=Build Description=

-CPU: When I bought this CPU, it came with coupons for 2 free games: 1 x AMD Gift - SimCity Game Coupon & 1 x AMD FarCry3: Blood Dragon FREE game download... so the FX-8350 seemed like a good choice to throw onto this desktop. Performance per $... this was a great choice for what we needed. Still unlocked for your overclocking pleasure, and still the only 8-core desktop processor around. Unmatched multitasking and pure core performance with a new architecture.

-CPU Cooler: I wanted a quiet reliable (maintenance free) liquid cooler that would fit into the Scout 2.

-Thermal Compound: This was recommended to me by a friend... It better be good advise.

-Motherboard: Can't go wrong with these boards. They provide many features that are helpful for new/inexperienced pc builders, & come with anti-virus. ASUS ROG is some reliable stuff.

-Memory: These came with a LED lit double fan cooler, it's fast & looks like a great match for this system.

-Storage: The SSD will hold the necessary software/apps/OS for a quick reliable startup, the HDD will save everything else that we add for quite awhile.

-Video Card: Each card came with an AMD Silver rewards coupon for free games, so we practically got a free GPU thanks to the coupons!!! I like all the extra features that the new ASUS AMD cards have, & the R7-260X is one of the only new models that will be able to use the new AMD TrueAudio technology: http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_you_wanted_know_about_amd%E2%80%99s_new_trueaudio_technology_2013

-Case: This was the first part I bought, we like how this thing looks. It is not too big & not too small, with a matte black finish that's not too flashy when pc is off. It also has adequate space to hold/hide everything, plenty of vents for airflow, very sturdy, a handle to carry it from the office to garage for maintenance/cleaning, & a perfect sized tinted window.

-Case fan: These were added to provide necessary ventilation & lighting inside. We put the 2 red LED JetFlo's pushing hot air out top, the 2 red LED SickleFlo's pulling cool air in front, the 2 switchable (on/off red LED) stock case fans were relocated from the front... now they push hot air out & away from the video cards (under the window). The black stock radiator fan (that came with the liquid cooler) is pulling cool air in from the rear top.

-Power supply: All black modular wiring was easy to manage. This PSU is very quiet & efficient. It is also a little overpowered I know, but it will be reliable & handle anything we add in the future.

-Optical Drive: All blacked out front. This thing can burn XGD3/overburn DVD's, I use Sony products in my home theater... so I trusted that it would be reliable enough to load Windows & spin some discs.

-Operating System: This is what is in our current laptops. Windows 8 is all we know how to use, it would just be confusing for us to try anything else.

-Monitor: Seems like the perfect size. If we ever add more monitors later, they will line up perfectly without too much bezel in between. The specifications these monitors have will be excellent for home office/gaming/multimedia use.

-Keyboard: Red LED backlights, multimedia keys & some nifty gaming features. This part was delivered late due to storms, but we finally got it after the build was completed.

-Headphones: Dang these are comfortable, with top of the line sound. (gift)

-Mouse: Optical, ergonomic & dpi switchable, in red. (gift)

-All in one printer/copier/scanner/fax: This will be used for home office duty & printing family photos...it'll even print disc labels. I trust Canon products because I have used their cameras for years, & I figured it would be a good match up.

-We built this together over the Thanksgiving holiday... it was fun, & we learned a lot too!!!

Part List
Details
AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate4.51Ghz
CPU Temperature While Idle30.0° C
CPU Temperature Under Load46.0° C
Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.19Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate1.75Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle-
GPU Temperature Under Load-
3DMark 11 Benchmark Results
Performance Preset ScoreP10701
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Moops 4 points 8 months ago

Nice build! Curious to see what that Microsoft keyboard looks like, was also looking for a cheap backlit keyboard.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks, we put a lot of time into it. I'll add a picture when the SIDEWINDER X4 gets here... but I think that keyboard will be too complicated for me hahaha!!! I'll still use it anyways.

 
 
Moops 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks! If at all possible, I'd like to see how good it lights up in the dark.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 3 points 8 months ago

Ok, new SIDEWINDER X4 keyboard has been delivered, I added the last picture in with it lit up.

 
 
Moops 3 points 8 months ago

Wow, I really like those, definitely going to consider these while looking for an cheap red backlit keyboard. Thanks

EDIT: Is that column of keys on the very left of the keyboard for like macros/shortcuts?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 3 points 8 months ago

We haven't figured out all the extra buttons yet, or loaded the software it comes with. Right outta the box though... the keys are lit up, and all the basic buttons work how they should. I think when I get more time I'll load the software and program the gaming keys. But to answer your question... the box says those keys on the left are programmable macro keys, 3 banks of 6, to assign 18 macros per profile. Using just the outta the box setup... my son likes it, and the keys have 3 brightness settings that are very bright in the dark.

 
 
Moops 3 points 8 months ago

Wow awesome, thanks for all your help, I think I'll probably pick one of these up!

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candy [3 Builds] 4 points 8 months ago

How well do the R7 260xs do in crossfire? Never seen two of them crossfired before.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

They are doing well, game and videos look beautiful and high fps so far. We have only checked the fps in MineCraft, but we are getting high 250-400fps on multiplayer servers with many players. So far so good, we will be getting more games since we got the coupons from AMD and I'm sure the CrossFired R7-260X's will do just fine.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 7 months ago

Update: we have added many games to our library, game inventory: Minecraft, Grand Theft Auto series (multiple games Steam bundle pack), Hitman (multiple games Steam bundle pack), Left For Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, & Payday 2. I believe these cards can handle any game out there using max/ultra/high settings @ 1080p. I have not noticed any lag, & have not experienced any weird driver issues while watching videos, or while playing any games... even while running Fraps. These cards in a CrossFireX setup work very well, even without any overclocking (stock speeds). I am really looking forward to using Mantle & TrueAudio in the 2014 new games... It's gonna be great!

 
 
lamb_llama [1 Build] 3 points 8 months ago

really liking the RAM cooling. from what i can see you put a lot of time into it. Great job on the color coordination.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks. The little fans are kinda cool with blue LEDs.

 
 
juheebus [1 Build] 3 points 8 months ago

Are you from norcal?.. Good build. You can sell one set of those games to lower the price further.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

Yes juheebus, I'm from Nor-Cal... how'd you know? Thanks, but I will probably be keeping the game credits/coupons for my son. I like that option though too.

 
 
juheebus [1 Build] 4 points 8 months ago

Haha I'm from there too and we say "hella" a lot xD

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Resa69 [1 Build] 3 points 7 months ago

Awesome colour scheme. The gpu's really stand out and look amazing! How is the case doing regarding airflow?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks, we have had no problems so far with airflow... there is a total of 7 fans that are controllable through the motherboard settings. Only thing is that it can be kinda loud when they are all running full blast, but we don't have to put them on high to keep everything cool.

 
 
Resa69 [1 Build] 1 point 7 months ago

So what temperatures are you seeing under full load?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 7 months ago

I really haven't checked into that... I don't really know when the CPU is considered to be under full load, how would I test it? Remember this thing is just being used by a kid and an amateur 1st time builder, we don't really know how to do much testing with it yet... it's still really new to us and we are enjoying exploring what we can use it for. So any suggestions would help us.

 
 
Resa69 [1 Build] 2 points 7 months ago

Prime95 is a program that makes your cpu do lots of calculations therefore it goes under full load (100% usage). And for gpu I think it is furmark which puts gpu's under full load.

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MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 7 months ago

Update: Ran Prime95 for hours & hours & hours continuously... never went above 46c. This CPU is solid & I'm happy it did well.

 
 
phoxwithme [4 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

That seems to be a very larger desk! My finace has that keyboard and she loves it.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

Cool. Yeah, the desk is large... 6 footer. It'll hold a lot of things and heavy weight also. It's good to know that you are enjoying the keyboard... I hope I can figure it out.

 
 
Starlana [2 Builds] 2 points 7 months ago

Sweet! Why isn't this rated higher? +1 all the way.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 7 months ago

When I submitted it the site was glitchy...it didn't show up on "completed builds" for like 2 days, so I contacted the website and asked what was up. A staff e-mailed me back (and told me about the glitch), then he instructed me to submit the same thing again... so I did. It took awhile to show up, then when it first appeared on "completed builds"... it was on the third page with 0 upvotes, so I guess it was just overlooked because it never was on the first or second page.

 
 
Noah223 2 points 7 months ago

+1 nice stuff.

 
 
EcoMCG 2 points 6 months ago

How much FPS do you get in games? And would you recommend the 260x?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 6 months ago

I haven't really written down any exact FPS numbers because we usually have just been playing Minecraft on this PC, in game we see anywhere from 250-400 FPS on multiplayer servers while running Fraps/Skype also. I have also played some other games like TF2, LFD2, Payday2, some of the GTA titles, & some of the Hitman titles, I have experienced no lag or anything that even made me question how I could get more FPS... all those titles are completely playable on highest settings 1080p single monitor. I really would recommend the R7-260X, I also just ordered another one because I'm building my son a PC for his bedroom... this is a great little card if you use 1 monitor. I don't even want to think of getting any other card because these cards are among the few that have AMD TrueAudio and Mantle... which we will be able to use in the new 2014 games.

 
 
pholtz [1 Build] 2 points 5 months ago

This is a really cool looking configuration. Any problems with the seidon so far? It's hard to find reviews for it. Nice cooling config though.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 5 months ago

We have been running the CM Seidon 120M with the stock fan from the box. The cooling system was easy to set up. It is a very quiet system that does well at keeping the chip cool. I have overclocked the chip mildly, and this cooler had no problem keeping it within safe operating temps. You probably aren't gonna be setting any overclocking records with this cooler... but for just regular everyday reliable computer use, this cooler is plenty.

 
 
pegotico 2 points 4 months ago

+1, nice build

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks.

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GaldedRaw 1 point 6 months ago

Very nice build!

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 6 months ago

Thanks.

 
 
masterone 1 point 2 months ago

how well do the CPU cooler..?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 2 months ago

The little Coolermaster Seidon 120m does very well at keeping the cpu temp low. I'm not an overclocker... the highest I've messed around with is 4.51mhz. At that temp (on prime 95) the cpu never got above 46c, I ran prime 95 for like 30 hours straight and had no problems. I'm sure I could go higher... like near 5mhz maybe??? But I think there is no need, the 8350 is a beast... and is very fast and stable at stock speed. I would recommend that cooler for quiet maintenance free everyday reliable operation. Plus for the price... you can't go wrong.

 
 
masterone 1 point 2 months ago

okay thanks for the info...

 
 
newww 1 point 1 month ago

how is the graphics card on high end games?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 1 month ago

I use 2 of the R7-260X in CrossFire. In Minecraft it gets like 400fps, I haven't really measured fps in any other games... but we play Battlefield 3, Hitman (all of them), GTA (all of them), Plants vs. Zombies, Payday 2, Team Fortress 2 plus many more popular games without any lag at all. I was just playing Battlefield 3 last night (on Ultra settings) and everything was completely smooth with no issues. That is how all those games work with this card. On YouTube there are gamers playing the newer games on high settings also if you search it up. My son's pc uses 1 R7-260X, but he only plays kids games like Minecraft... with 1 card, he gets like 300fps on multiplayer crowded servers. It is a very good card for 1080p single monitor gaming.

 
 
udfaq8888 1 point 29 days ago

I have seen many having problems with the GPU you bought like black screen,artifacts,glitching(you search it in tom's hardware) Have you had no such problem?

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 28 days ago

No problems. I have 2 in my pc, my son has 1 in his (my other build). Neither of our pc's have any problems with black/blue screens, glitching, artifacts, tearing etc... We use the stock settings and stock speeds... no overclocking. We also use the stock drivers that came on the disc the card was shipped with... never did any updates either. The only changes we ever do is turn the fan speed up a bit when the cards heatpipes are very hot to the touch. I would bet that the people who have all the problems with these cards just don't leave their cards alone... they probably overclock, mess with the power settings, and use incorrect drivers that they got from the wrong place.

 
 
ownerbeast 1 point 19 days ago

Honestly it is a good build for you and your son. BUT for 1900 dollars you could have gotten a lot more.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 18 days ago

$1900(price without rebates)includes everything... all peripherals, antivirus for a year, plus a beast all in one printer. This machine does everything I need it to do, and I'm very happy with it. It even scores better than other "high budget/high end" systems posted in pcpartpicker benchmark leaderboards... check it if you don't believe me (it's #325) http://pcpartpicker.com/builds/leaderboard/?page=7 Go ahead and compare the performance/$ with the other builds next to it on the leaderboards. All the hardware/software in this thing works very well together, sure there are other more popular configurations... but this is perfect for me and my sons needs. Good day.

 
 
ownerbeast 1 point 18 days ago

Yes I know it is very good but I still think you could have gotten more for the same price just to make it future proof if your son wants to play any graphically intense games like battlefield 4,dayz,arma etc.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 18 days ago

Yeah anyways... my son doesn't game on this build anymore, this is MY rig now that I game on. I built a second one for him http://pcpartpicker.com/b/NrTWGX .He just plays Minecraft, Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare, TF2 & other kids games... I don't let him play the really bloody adult games yet.

 
 
ownerbeast 1 point 18 days ago

Those are actually pretty fun games! lol! TF2 is rated M but it isn't too big of a deal.

 
 
jtc2793 0 points 8 months ago

You should go with one of the Radeon HD 7xxx series instead of those r7 260xs. The R7s are all Radeon HD 6xxx and 7xxx rebranded. The only truly new gpus are the r9 280 and above and if your willing to pay $300 for gpus go for the highest r9 model but otherwise you should get your money back and buy radeon 7xxx equivalents.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 5 points 8 months ago

Well that's your opinion. My opinion is that the 2 R7-260X's are a better deal because of the $160 in free games that they came with. Also, yes they are just rebranded 7790's (but 7790's cost more)...and the 2 R7-260X's have an extra (truly unique) feature called AMD TrueAudio technology that I am looking forward to. http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_you_wanted_know_about_amd%E2%80%99s_new_trueaudio_technology_2013 Anyways, the highest R9 model cost way more than $300... and the other R series GPU with AMD TrueAudio technology cost way more than that. So, thanks for your opinion... but I'll stick with what I got.

 
 
OldBoy 4 points 8 months ago

The memory of the graphic cards don't combine, you still get just 2 gb of memory but almost double of the processing power.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 3 points 8 months ago

Ok thanks, I learned something new there. Anyways, we're happy with the 2 R7-260X's... and I'm not gonna exchange them because I know we got a good deal and they are working perfectly.

 
 
manirelli [Staff] [1 Build] 2 points 8 months ago

FYI the 280 and 280X are rebadges of the 7950 and 7970. The only new architecture cards are the 290 and 290X. They are on Hawaii and the others are on Tahiti.

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 2 points 8 months ago

I think the R7-260X is Bonaire.

 
 
gregkolodny 0 points 6 months ago

There is no 280. Your point is valid though, seeing as all of the r9 and r7 are rebrandings of 7xxx series, except for 290x and 290.

 
 
Moon_Rock 0 points 3 months ago

2 260xs are a waste of money its better to get 1 gpu

 
 
Moon_Rock 0 points 3 months ago

also minecraft only uses 1 gpu, and if u dont already, get shaders

 
 
MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 3 months ago

duh... and duh.

 
 
Moon_Rock 0 points 3 months ago

the 260x cant play shaders an anything above low

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MAXXHEW [Submitter] [2 Builds] 1 point 3 months ago

huh?... whatever dude. You don't even know.

 
 
Moon_Rock 1 point 3 months ago

On your parts list you have 2 260xs, that is not good for shaders