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Waterbox

by hawkeye1

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19 Comments

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Date Published

June 6, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

4.2GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

30.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

42.0° C

Description

First water cooled build. Gaming build, videos etc. This took me a long time to put together, both parts list and putting parts in case. I took out the 3.5" brackets on the floor and put in acrylic painted black. A10-7870 and Win 8.1 pro on the horizon. Not in the parts list here are many misc. parts like fan distribution hubs, pwm to 3 pin fan control, pwm spliters, extensions for power cables, Corsair sleeved cable kit, sleeved short, 11 inch SATA III cables, chroma lighting controller and two rgb light strips. For those that think a A10-7850K will slow down a 290x I wll just say you are wrong. Heaven and Valley run with good results once I got the right drivers.

06/18/2015 install a10-7870k processor. drop in boot up and no problems. 7870 run hotter out of the box but it is faster and GTA V is noticebly smoother, like butter. I will put 7850k in a new build, Snow Leopard.

EK water block for AMD R9-Fury purchased. Fury purchased and mated with water block. Replaces R9-290x. very straight forward process. Graphics in games is very smooth.

Part Reviews

CPU

I am very happy with this decision. APU is better than I expected. overclocks easily.

Motherboard

This is a very good product. Nice colors so good to work with and other components matched. BIOS update for 7870k is installed and a purchase is on the horizon.

Memory

CAS 9 so it is fast even though not 2400. good looks and solid performance. can't ask for more than that.

Storage

Nice piece. It is plenty fast. Fast boot was never a big issue with me. loading games is great, downloading updates is fast too. very good bang for the buck.

Storage

I love small form factor storage. I have 10k enterprise Seagates. I will use them all the time.

Case

I loved working with this case. it isn't very big outside but each chamber has plenty of room to do its job. Kind of like a tardis.

Case Fan

I liked these fans. They have range. most of the time they whisper, when they run at 100% it is VERY loud.

Keyboard

Heavy and it has a light show.

Mouse

I got a good deal on a 2013 Naga mmo. I use that one all the time. I thought the numeric pad layout on the side would be better on 2014.

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dragoon20005 3 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

just asking how does your A10 hold up?

in terms of speed you got and the voltage needed and temps?

if not for the 750W PSU

you might be able to run dual 290Xs

or hint hint

the R9 300 series Fury sounds good to try out once it is out with the God APU, I mean 7870K XD

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

O.K., all you intel guys look away for a moment. voltage is 1.452. I can tweek it some but I will do that later after I swap out the 7850K for a 7870K next week. Another build, this time in white and brass coming up. As for the temps the biggest problem I had is how other than AMD/MSI programs that report the wrong value. I stuck with the commander interface and used CPU pwm for input to the fan distro unit. Phanteks PH-PWHUB_01 PWM Fan Hub. New build may just get an 860i psu. plan is Vision Tek r9 290 with EK waterblock, maybe two.

dragoon20005 3 Builds 3 points 19 months ago

dont go for the Corsair unit

the EVGA or Seasonic or even CM V1000 will do the trick

both the CM V1000 and Seasonic 1000W are the same unit only one may be cheaper.

the AMD Fury card is water cooled so you might be able to link it to your system.

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

08/13/05 EK water block and back plate will be here this week. It is for Fury X. that part may take a couple of more weeks, router is dieing a slow death so that may push it back another week. Stay tuned.the r9 290x will go in the build that has the A10-7850k that was pulled out earlier.

ajpinton 11 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

Its not that he A10 will slow down due to the R9 290x (which is a great card by the way), it is the onchip GPU on the A10 will shut off; which defeats the purpose of getting an APU. The A10 will crossfire with some of the R7's but disable its self with any other GPU, but here I think the GPU is plenty strong enough to merit the waste of the onchip GPU.

Great looking job on the PC, nice custom loop too.

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

I used it with no gpu card at first, then tried other cards. The 290x came in and then it was off to the races. I have disabled on board apu video to recover the 1m of memory it uses. I couldn't tell if there was any difference with 290x and w/apu or wo/apu. The apu video did a fair job. You can overclock it and add another gig of memory and it ran pretty good. Overclocking the cpu helped too. 4.2-4.4 ghz. There was occasionally jiggies wiith the 290x. I was trying overclocks on it also. turned it down one notch at a time and then the GTA V drivers (beta) helped it a lot. Works great now.

The loop with 240 and 360 is overkill. another 290x would be about right. Using a LCD TV as a monitor is strictly 1080p so second card i s not needed. This was my first custom loop and now I want to do another one.

vinishshetty 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

Nice build, hows the water cooler performance, is it worth the trouble?? i see you have spent almost $1000 on it also you got a top amd gpu thats awsome.

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

It was mostly about just doing a full custom water cooled loop. The fittings cost a lot. I used all Bitspower. All of the water blocks are EK. The R9-290x is EK also. I didn't know what corners I could cut to save money but in the end it is worth it. I am already thinking about doing another similar build using the knowledge I have gained to take it up a notch. Asrock has an FM2+ board they showed of at Comtex that has M.2 on it. I will probably give that a try. The temps I see with 7850K at 4.4ghz overckock and R9-290x overclocked on memory and gpu are so low. idle in low 30s, full stress gpu and apu at 100% in the mid 40s. The fans at 100% are loud. mostly they run at 25-40% and are very quiet.

Dony 4 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

If you are going with M.2, I would advise you to go with Samsung and I would mount the M.2 on a PCIe card if you want speed as this x 4 speed.

I did a review on the issues I had with Installing a bootable copy of 8.1 Pro on my Samsung M.2 so check out my build (Riddick2)

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

Kingston Predator 240GB PCI-E Solid State Driveis the one I have been looking at. I checked the Asrock m.2 and it is x.2 so only about 700mbs. The Predator card is advertised at 1.4 gbs, twice as fast. Other AMD boards have M.2 with x4 so I was thinking about a 8350 build. since I am putting an a10 7870k on this setup next week I will have a 7850k gathering dust. I thought just do another build with it. Idk.

pet1 1 point 8 months ago

What size is the rservoir combo?

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

The res tube is 150mm long and 60mm dia.If you are asking about the entire combo for pump/ cooler/res and top my best estimate is between 225 and 20mm.

Justiceinacan 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

"Kind of like a tardis" Lol

Wealthy_Nigerian_Prince 0 points 15 months ago

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PhillipWeaver 1 Build 0 points 14 months ago

A $2,000 build with an APU. A couple points: First is that the 7870k is hardly any better than the 7850k. You could have gotten a much better CPU for the money, and an APU doesn't make your build faster if you have a dedicated GPU. The graphics on the APU will disable when you put a new card in.

hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 3 points 14 months ago

The back story is long and twisted. I was building a cheap simple system as my Q6600 (actually the mobo, an intel DX48BT) died. The replacement cost for the mobo was very high and limited. I decided to upgrade to something more current. SATA III would be nice and USB 3 too. The AMD APU caught my eye because I could build it fairly inexpensively and have a working system up and running quickly. I ran it with the onboard apu graphics and with 2133mhz memory it was pretty good. I am older, 64 and on social security. My eyes and many other body parts are failing. At some point in the build I decided that my son need to inherit this build in progress for his gaming needs. I talked to him about it and he said he wanted some things like a powerful graphics card and I suggested water cooling and SSD in a Corsair case. I have always admired the Air 540 so that is what we chose. I followed a youtube builder and found his build with this case suited to my needs and used it as a guide. We acguired the Visiontek limited edition 290x set up and tested with EK waterblock. I had never built a water cooled system before and followed the design closely. I didn't copy it exactly but the loop design, pump and radiators are very difficult issues to figure out and he did a great job. He used hardlines with hardware to make the turns. No bends were required. I used soft tubing and compression fittings. It work out well for me. The 240mm and 360mm radiators are overkill for the components as they barely emit enough heat to notice. The upgrades like the a10-7870k were a good fit. It adds about 10-15% cpu power and overclocks bettter than the first cpu did. The was mildly noticeable improvement to his games. I didn't put it in the build (yet) but as soon as EK produced waterblocks for the fury line we got one. We put a Fury in and plan to put a second watercooled fury at a later date. My son wants to end up with a 4k display and is waiting for price/performance to hit his sweet spot. 30 hz refresh is hard to live with. Even though my vision has deteriorated to the point that I have 40 inch tv/monitor 1080p I have to put my face 6-9 inches away to be able to read this. I am in the process of building another system because I had a spare cpu and need to keep myself busy. I started with th 7850k and have since gone to Skylake I7-6700k system. I wanted to exploit M.2 storage and the crazy fast pcie 3.0 x4 interface. I got a MSA M5 because it has 2 M.2 interfaces and the ability to raid zero connect the SM951 ssd(s). This should show up at about 4.5GB/sec read 3.0GB write performance. 2 256GB sm951 gives me plenty of boot drive space and I have a pcie card that I can add two SATA III EVO 512GB SSDs (550MB/sec) for slow large storage. without all those cables for 2.5 ssds. I am using the 290x from my son's system since he put the Fury card in to replace it. I am using an Air 540 again but in white this time. I am modding the case to use the smaller side for a NAS buildout. I will start with 3 2 or 3 TB 3.5 inch 7200 rpm Seagate NAS druve, U can cut out another 2/5.25 hold and add 3 more drives in a 3 drive in a 2 5.5 hotswap mount. This requires another much smaller power supply, the NAS box and a multiport card/device. The second psu is required to keep it 24x7 while still allowing me to turn off my computer. It is all good fun. I had about 30 years experience working on real computers, mainframe systems and working for a vendor for a number of years. I have been building computers since the PC-2 from IBM came on the market. I installed a 100watt psu to support a 20MB 5.25 hard drive. It had one meg of memroy on an add in card and a 12" monochrome monitor and I ran Microsofl DOS 4.1. lol

PhillipWeaver 1 Build 1 point 14 months ago

Everything makes a lot more sense now, and the backstory makes me appreciate this build. Thanks for the reply.

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hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

Thanks, I will see if I can change that. Since I added them all in instead of using the site to record the purchases it didn't do everything right.

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hawkeye1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

I think I found it. I missed that at first, thanks.