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Broadwell Black

by TheGingerBeard

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39 Comments

Details

Date Published

Aug. 4, 2015

Date Built

July 29, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

3.1GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

29.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

52.0° C

Description

Decided to do a Broadwell build with a potential upgrade to a R9 Fury Nano. Wanted to do something fairly compact for LAN parties, but with plenty of power under the hood.

Have lowered the RAM voltage to 1.35v since Broadwell is supposed to use DDR3L according to the intel specifications; also increased the speed to 1866MHz so a little boost in graphics capabilities.

Haven't got round to many benchmarks or got into overclocking yet, as I don't see the point before upgrading to Windows 10.

Benchmarks I have done:

Unigine Heaven 4.0 score: 262 - with 1866Mhz ram 270 (much wow; 1% improved performance!)

Sniper elite v2: 1080p Medium preset - Minimum 11.45, Average 42.44

Really impressed with 1080p gaming on this chip; get over 140fps on TF2 on highest settings, and plays Smite really well too. Also however accurate the Windows experience index is; a minimum score of 7.4 considering no discrete graphics seems pretty good to me!

Once I get the windows 10 upgrade I am going to try and improve the gaming performance as much as possible by balancing CPU and iGPU overclock.

Reason for the name; I tried to go all black components; only the storage went wrong on this; but the M.2 drive is not visible, and the HDD is a nice neutral silver :-)

Feel free to ask me any questions you have about the build.

Part Reviews

CPU

Sips power, has 4 real cores, is overclockable, and has great built in graphics (second only, and only just, to the i7 version with a 50Mhz higher clock).

The only problems are the price, and the fact that Skylake is coming up fast (and maybe Zen).

But I wanted to do a small Intel build with decent graphics performance to tide me over until a GPU catches my eye (R9 Fury Nano seems like the candidate at the moment if it lives up to the hype). Because of this, and lots of performance tweaking available, this CPU is a great fit for me.

CPU Cooler

Looks awesome, is quiet, has a PWM fan header, seems to be adequately cooling the CPU.

My only gripe is that the mounting pins are terrible. They did not break, but felt close to it, and kept popping out of the mounting holes. Otherwise it fits in very nicely with the aesthetic of the build.

Motherboard

Has everything I wanted in a Broadwell supporting mITX motherboard; overclocking, M.2 port, built in WiFi, and good fan speed control, brilliant.

Memory

Seems great so far, looks great, have changed to 1.35v from 1.5v stock, and changed the speed to 1866MHz, and it passes all tests; great in my book!

Storage

Can't get over how small this thing is, pretty much same space when lying flat as my 16GB memory stick, and infinitely thinner!

Gets 7.9 on the windows experience index for transfer rate; pc boots up in under 10 seconds - that's good enough for me!

Storage

Pros: 2TB of storage for not very much money; came with a free HDD cooler which doesn't fit in the case I bought. Cheaper than solid state.

Cons: Is not solid state for dat awesome speed

Case

As shown in my pictures, much smaller than my previous case, but still retains great support for everything except a larger motherboard and an optical drive. Both of these things were not wanted in this build, or needed.

Suits me perfectly as something easier to lug around than my last PC, and was quite easy to build in, with every panel coming off.

Also has a massive fan in the front which is controlled nicely by the motherboard.

Power Supply

80+ Gold, fan only comes on with a high load (have heard it spin up twice), modular (great for a mITX build, long warranty, and the right colour for the build.

Operating System

Old reliable, this was the cheapest option at the time of purchase between 7, 8.1 and 10, and as I plan on upgrading to 10 as soon as possible, this was the only real option.

Had some trouble with installing via USB stick but a trusty google search got me there in the end.

Comments Sorted by:

Growliff1234 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

When was Broadwell released for desktop PC's ? Anyway, nice build, and that's the first broadwell custom built I've noticed ! +1

pegotico 2 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

some time ago, but as I understand only a small amount were made, so difficult to find and expensive...

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Well I'm not sure when it was officially released, although there is an anandtech review dated for the 2nd of June.

I just googling around last week and noticed Scan.co.uk had them for sale, the next day it was in my hands; that was the earliest I know of them being on sale!

Don't know if I'd have upgraded if I already had a socket 1150 build, but as I was going into it fresh I decided on the newest CPU I could get my hands on!

jipster69 4 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Oooo! That's different.

+1 for standing out from the crowd.

Decided to do a Broadwell build with a potential upgrade to a R9 Fury Nano.

You sure that little box can handle the potential mini furnace that might be an air cooled Fury?

Might be able to multipurpose the build and use it as a kiln for pottery too. =P

bloodroses75 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

It's hard to say how hot the Nano will be. But yeah, it seems like it will be a tiny little scorcher based on its big brothers. These kind of cases is what the nano is supposedly geared for. Fingers crossed that AMD does it right.

jipster69 4 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

It does appear to be a rear blower (mostly) so it has that goin for it I think...

R9 Fury Nano

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

The case does have venting on the side panel right where the fan is on that image you linked, and yeah it looks like the nano at least has some venting on the back of the card too.

I still have room for 2x80mm fans so possibly may be able to tame the card if it is indeed hot.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Hey, that's why I'm waiting to see what it's like, I am hopeful that it will be a great card!

If not, hey the graphics performance of the iGPU is pretty good, so no harm in waiting for costs on some other card to go down or something.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Haha! Thanks, thought you might comment :-P.

At the moment I'm not sure, that's why I'm waiting to see what the card is like, since it isn't even out yet, even if the stock card is hot there may be a better cooler aftermarket version. Just waiting on reviews before my decision :-)

TerraHD 2 points 18 months ago

First Broadwell build I've seen! :) How's it doing for you?

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

It's great, seems really snappy, and the graphics performance is brilliant. This is basically a LAN party build, and I was planning on adding discrete graphics; but I'm going to give overclocking a go (with the aim of improving gaming performance only), and see how much performance I can squeeze out of it!

TerraHD 2 points 18 months ago

Nice! Have fun overclocking! :)

NuclearChinchilla 2 points 18 months ago

To be quite honest, I'm just surprised someone on this site had the self control not to get a GPU right out of the gate. +1 for your patience, sir.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Haha! To be fair I probably should have gone for an i3 and a 750ti or something for the price I paid, but I thought bugger it, I'm getting this, tweaking the clocks and whatnot while I wait for a GPU which inspires me!

bloodroses75 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Investing in a high end CPU is better than a cpu/gpu combo is a better route starting off imo. You made the right choice.

That i5 will serve you for much longer than an i3. Plus it's much easier to upgrade a GPU than a CPU; without even taking a new motherboard into consideration.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Well that's what I was going for, all I need to do is stick the GPU in and add another cable to my PSU, and the graphics is done (apart from drivers!).

Quad core seems to still be king so there was no need for a massive price increase of an i7.

Also for the graphics, when a card is added, there is 128MB of dedicated graphics memory on chip which switches to l4 cache when dedicated graphics are used - so CPU performance should increase as well :-)

bloodroses75 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Yeah, definitely a smart option; especially since I just saw the benchmark leaks of Skylake. They completely nerfed the iGPU part of the CPU compared to Broadwell.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I've just seen a couple of official reviews pop up, and they have pretty much made iGPU terrible again: Hexus Review.

it seems to lose the edRAM/l4 cache as well!

TechyinAZ 13 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Looks great! Where did you buy the broadwell i5? I can't find it on newegg.com.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Thanks man, I'm in the UK, I bought it from Scan.co.uk, not sure if they do international delivery, they also had the i7 but the price increase for hyperthreading didn't seem worth it to me.

Eltech 14 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Jeepers! I have never seen a i5-5675C before. How very interesting! Sounds like you been playing with it on some games. I sure would love to know more about your experience with it. Enjoy your lovely new computer, it's a great and clean build! You have my up-vote.

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

I'm really happy with it. Previously thought about doing a high end kaveri build, but that seems to be ok with 720p but struggle at 1080p. This cpu seems capable enough at medium settings for 1080p.

Source engine games, going by Team Fortress 2, will be great at max settings, and older AAA games seem to be pretty good too at medium; have tried Sniper Elite V2, and Bioshock Infinite, and both average over 40fps.

With overclocking it may be able to possibly push 50fps, although mainly I want to improve the minimum fps, as Sniper Elite had a minimum of 11fps on benchmark, which could do with increasing; will wait until my place in line for Windows 10 before I delve into massive overclocking though :-)

Eltech 14 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Wow, that is impressive from the Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 6200. I truly appreciate your response and I'm looking forward to hearing even more about it, in the future. Thank you so much. :)

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Yeah I was thinking about getting a discrete GPU, but I think this chip alone will keep me busy enough for a while!

dragoon20005 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

wild Broadwell has been spotted and tamed by TheGingerBeard

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Haha we'll see if it misbehaves when I teach it some new moves (overclocking)!

dragoon20005 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Boradwell has learnt a new move but it has already 4 moves

Forget one move?

Yes No

1,2,3... poof

Broadwell has forget old move and has learn new move! OC

aerophoenix1 2 points 18 months ago

What graphics card would the igpu compare to? Is this worth it compared to the a10-7870k?

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

It's a fair bit better than a a10-7870k: Anandtech

Obviously the chip is more expensive, but if you compare the CPU power as well, this chip is a lot better - so will pair better with a discrete chip down the line.

The only benchmark I have easily found puts the iGPU somewhere between an AMD r7 250 and a Nvidia 750: Toms Hardware. This is with DDR3 1600 Ram too - so it could possibly beat a 750 with high speed ram - Minimum frame rates are also higher than the discrete gpus (graph comparing discrete gpus is the last one).

I have to say I'm very happy with it, plays TF2 and smite very well, and quietly, and I've fiddled with overclocking the GPU, have got it from 1100Mhz to 1300Mhz and it makes a big difference in the Unigine heaven benchmark, has gone from 267 to 307 which is a nice improvement :-)

Hope this is a good answer for you - let me know if you want to know anything else.

aerophoenix1 2 points 18 months ago

Thank you sooo much for the feedback!!!

icsta 2 points 16 months ago

I know this is a late reply, but did you ever OC the 5675C? I am thinking of building a tiny PC and wondering what performance you got out of it? Thanks!

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Yeah overclocked it, got some pretty good performance out of it.

Got the CPU from 3.1Ghz with a 3.6Ghz turbo up to 3.9 constant, with 1.17 volts.

The GPU has gone from 1.1Ghz to 1.25Ghz, also with 1.17 volts.

Tried to go for a fairly low voltage for the temps & lifespan; the cooler I used isn't that great, it just looks pretty ;-)

Also Increasing the ram speed seems to have a massive effect on minimum fps heaven unigine 4.0, in both basic and extreme, so I'd recommend some decent ram.

In terms of gaming: TF2 1080p max settings gets around 100-120fps Smite medium settings gets around 80-110fps Killing Floor 2 medium settings gets around 35-55fps

Really impressed with this CPU!

manchildjr 3 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

I've been thinking about getting a thermaltake core x2 I know this is a core V1 but I was wondering what you think of the quality of the case. I've hear a mixed bag of reviews on Thermaltake Core series cases. I've heard stuff about poor quality and cable management nightmares

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Personally I am happy with the core V1, considering how small the case is the cable management was no problem, and the build quality is great for such a cheap case in my opinion.

Having no personal experience with the Core X2 I can't say what it'll be like, but it looks a pretty nice case on Thermaltakes website. It also has the swappable panels and modular nature that the V1 has, which were features which drew me to it.

Hope this helps!

manchildjr 3 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

"the build quality is great for such a cheap case in my opinion." this is exactly what I was looking for

TheGingerBeard submitter 3 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Happy to help! If you buy it let me know if it's any good - will probably do a Micro-Atx build next!

Kreuzer 2 Builds 2 points 11 months ago

Nice, I got the same case wrapped in carbon fiber vinyl !