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Killed my console: Low Budget Build
by ggeli
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Description

This computer was for myself, didn't know I can do it... Spent months learning, and success! I play League Of Legends right now but I mainly got it because our old PC is ****; and I want to eventually play PC games.

Q.why not AMD for budget Build? A. because i want to upgrade in like 2-3 years to a i5 or i7 lga115 Q.why 7790 not 7770? A. It came with a game I was Looking to purchase.(Bioshock/Far Cry BD) and yes I bought a legit copy of Windows.

Total Cost with Monitor :$774

Total Cost of PC After taxes and rebate and win7: 630$

Psu-58.48 case:53 MB.75 Network adp. 13

BTW this build was two months ago which the 7870 was 160 not 140-150

take away 40 bucks worth of "Free Games" and its a 600 dollar PC, which will be like buying a new PS3 when it came out. or a new xbox + controllers and xbox live.

Details
Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate3.0GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle-
CPU Temperature Under Load-
Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.07Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate6.4GHz
GPU Temperature While Idle-
GPU Temperature Under Load-
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Jensen117 7 points 18 months ago

Don't go for an i7. Waste of $100 unless your photo editing to the max.

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saw1833 [1 Build] 4 points 18 months ago

In 2-3 years LGA1155 is going to be completely out of date. As of Sunday it's already been replaced by 1150. Not to crush your dreams but tech changes fast. 2-3 years we'll have 6th gen Core CPUs, or something totally new.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

lol really hahaha, i guess new MB and cpu and gpu lol

 
 
saw1833 [1 Build] 5 points 18 months ago

Well Nvidia just released 700 series GFX, AMD is going to rebadge to 8000 here soon, 9000 series to hit in 2014. Haswell, 4th, aka 1150 socket, just released on Sunday. AMD just released new A-series CPUs. And all this happened within a month of each other.

It's not like consoles where new ones release every 7 years. Technology is said to have a major advancement every 3 months or so (mind you technology as a whole, not necessarily PC technology).

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

but i also want to keep as cheap as possible so makybe the i7 will go down a bit?

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

You don't need an i7. If there is a MicroCenter near you, pick up an i5 for $170 and enjoy. The i7 and i5 CPU's perform on par with each other in games, so why waste the extra $100 if you aren't editing?

 
 
Booth21209 1 point 17 months ago

Well, perhaps in the future ported games will use more than 4 threads. With the next gen consoles being 8 cores n' all. By that time, which may very well be 2-3 years, an i7 on the 155 socket could be a valid budget choice, like the Phenom Black Editions are now.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

We can only hope. In 2-3 years though, I view anticipated upgrades as larger than a low budget solution. Leaving a build open-ended to me means you plan on going mid-range or higher in the future.

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DjArtifact 0 points 18 months ago

i7 is pointless, get something like an i5-3470 and a 7870xt.

 
 
Ventrus [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Could be true. But the looks of Haswell being a shizzy upgrade, we won't see that much of change in the next year or so. The 3rd gen ivy's are still going to be beasts. For crying out loud, people still suggest the Phenom 965.. and how old is that thing!?

Exactly. LGA1155 will be fine for quite some time, especially for people who still can reach that 100% peak. I mean the difference between the i5 3570k and i5 4670k are almost NONE.

No need to jump on the Intel bandwagon when they release little to no improvement from their last chip. Since they have the market they have no need to make giant improvements to make money. Don't bother getting haswell. Some say wait for ivy-E or some say stick with your i7 3770k until the skyline comes out or the broadwell.

If you want real upgrade potential you should switch to AMD for now, since their new AM3+ CPUs will be released and you will actually see a good boost in performance and for the price you can't go wrong. Rumours of stock 5ghz.

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sozan 2 points 17 months ago

I thought Ivy-E wasn't going to be released at all

 
 
sozan 2 points 17 months ago

awesome i better start saving up lol

 
 
Ventrus [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Yeah, I'm leaning the same way. Best of Luck!

 
 
sketch24 [6 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

I think the path he chose is reasonable but the timeline might be off. In a year or two, he could drop in an Ivy Bridge i5 3470 and upgrade the video card to a 7870xt or 7950 and he would get a substantial upgrade for maybe $300 if he's lucky enough to find good used deals. He doesn't have to change the motherboard or change to AMD. The i5 3470 will be comparable to fx-8350 in games (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html#sect0). It will be behind the 4.8ghz overclocked fx-9000, but I think it will still be comparable. Overall I think it's a good budget build he put together with a decent upgrade path to a used ivy bridge/tahiti combo in a year or two.

 
 
saw1833 [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Good thing I'm already using an AM3+ board. If AMD comes out with a CPU that trumps my 3770k, I'll just dust off my 990fx board and get a new CPU.

 
 
Ventrus [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Nice.

 
 
sketch24 [6 Builds] 2 points 17 months ago

I think this is a smart build overall. It gives you a decent upgrade path to IVY bridge and a 7870xt or 7950 (may be pushing the power supply a little too much with a 7950) in a year or two when you can get them cheaper used. Even though the motherboard only has SATA II, you could get an SSD for much faster load times than on an HDD. The power supply is an uber quality modular one that you can carry over for years in your budget builds. You could have probably done better on the case, especially if you got it for 59.99. The corsair 200R is often in that price range which has better cable management options. Overall I think this is a smart build that you can expand on in a year or two.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

thx, the case cost me 53 after tax but i like it, its nice, and yea i forgot to take wattage into account(noob mistake).

 
 
zhackaz 1 point 18 months ago

How Many Fps do you get if u max out everything on LoL?

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 18 months ago

like 60 lol... but it will probably be more if i went with the amd oh well, and definitely better if i knew the price of the gpu would change..

 
 
zhackaz 1 point 18 months ago

Well that's not bad compared to mine, I got 35 with everything on very low and no shadow.. My Laptop is made of Wood :P

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

lol i feel your pain i had that for a while

 
 
backstablaze 1 point 18 months ago

and i'm just sitting here at 25 average

 
 
Ventrus [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Same boat.

 
 
patback66 1 point 17 months ago

That's not so bad. My old laptop got a very consistent 12fps.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

You chose a good budget CPU. Only problem I see with your thinking is, upgrading to an i-series proc in 2-3 years. The new i-series came out recently with a new socket(LGA1150). It's priced about the same as the LGA1155 CPU's and performs better. You may want to look at replacing your motherboard when you upgrade your CPU.

 
 
sozan 1 point 17 months ago

haswell has about a 10% increase in performance from ivy. he would be better off getting a 3570k for 200 than he would getting a new board for 70 and the 4670k for 200

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

In 2-3 years, there will be a new generation of CPU's for the 1150 socket. Don't focus on the current line-up, focus on the reality that LGA1155 is now on it's way out the door, and most likely will be in the next few years.

 
 
sozan 1 point 17 months ago

just like sandy bridge was supposed to be completely obsolete yet it still gets decent sales

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

I didn't say completely obsolete. As far as the SandyBridge comment goes... you don't see many z68 chipsets in new builds anymore because they sucked. We rely on the z77 designed for the IvyBridge CPU's. Aside from cheap CPU sales (which are dwindling as stock is reduced) SandyBridge is almost dead. Who could argue with unlocked i5's for $130 or less? Phenom II only held on this long btw, because AMD screwed up in which direction they took their FX chipset.

Regardless of how small, better performance is still better. In 2-3 years, LGA1155 will be like LGA775 is now. A cheap build. If the OP wants to keep their build mediocre and on a small budget, it will work great. However, if they plan on upgrading it to a mid-range $1,000+ beast like so many of us do, they will most likely be looking at the LGA1150 socket if they still choose to go with Intel.

10-17% gains is pretty significant. That's what we're looking at right now with the 4670k i5 in the LGA1150 socket. With an average of a year between Ivy and Sandy chipsets, as well as Haswell, 2-3 years from now will see roughly 3 new chipsets. That means we will most likely be pushing 20-30%+ gains by the time they have planned for upgrades.

 
 
purpletalon 0 points 16 months ago

lol, lga ll55 will be viable for 5-6 years more.

 
 
iSkillzorz 1 point 17 months ago

60 seems a bit low for desktops, but if you monitor is only 60 Hz then it doesn't matter. You could change some of your video card settings. I have a store bought laptop and it gets around 65 maxed out.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

but does it play it in 1080p ?

 
 
iSkillzorz 1 point 17 months ago

Yep.

 
 
nextopdoc 1 point 17 months ago

You can get a 4.2 GHz AMD eight core processor for less than $200. Also you could have gotten a much better deal on the power supply.

 
 
sketch24 [6 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

He got a great deal on the power supply. The power supply is modular, super quiet, and has great voltage regulation/dependability.

 
 
nextopdoc 1 point 17 months ago

400W is not "great" for anyone who might upgrade their build in the future (unless they want to buy another power supply). I got a 700W for only slightly higher.

 
 
sketch24 [6 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

PCPC psus are excellent power supplies that can handle 400W continuous. The quality of the power supply matters a lot. There are a lot of 550w-750w power supplies in the $60 price range, but if you want a quality modular power supply you will be spending at least $60-70 unless you find a great deal. The CX power supplies from corsair might be modular and might be cheaper, giving more power, but they are lower quality power supplies. Most other ones that aren't average quality and modular are more expensive than $70. (http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/power-supply/#m=52,11,29,95,71,39&p=1,2&sort=a7). I'm not sure which one you got, but you can't get a quality modular one for that price now aside from the cx600m and cx500m.

Anyhow, I agree that 400W might limit his upgrade options. I wouldn't exactly recommend it, but you could add a 7950 and an i5 3470 and still be under the rated power of the PCPC power supply. He can definitely add a 7850 or 7870xt and pair it with an i3 or i5 ivy bridge without problems though. People who only go by how many watts the power supply has would never do it, but if you know about power supplies and which ones are good and how much your components draw, you could do an i3 or locked i5 with a 7850/7870xt without issue. If you use one of the GTX 6xx series GPUs that are even more power efficient, you would be using even less power.

 
 
noob_for_life 1 point 17 months ago

you have the wrong mobo listed

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

changed it the mb was much cheaper when i got it

 
 
willsharp 1 point 17 months ago

How's the wireless adapter working with gaming??

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

sweet actually same as ethernet rlly

 
 
Ipwnyou33 [1 Build] 1 point 17 months ago

Dude we got same keyboard High-five.

 
 
WWarriorz51 [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

do you have to buy the LED's seperate from the housing??

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 15 months ago

nope it came with case

 
 
WWarriorz51 [1 Build] 2 points 15 months ago

okay thanks bro

 
 
liquornmoney 1 point 13 months ago

upgrade to an i5 3350p down the line, its like 170$, and toms hardware has it up there at the top for gaming cpus.

 
 
RelapseLife [1 Build] 1 point 11 months ago

Does this build play next gen titles?

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 11 months ago

for the same money i would switch the gpu and cpu to something better.

 
 
Camboy05 1 point 10 months ago

I really would like to know how good performance you get with that cpu + gpu?

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 10 months ago

i played far cry blood dragon and bioshock infinite on 1080p high settings

 
 
fsma92 [2 Builds] 0 points 18 months ago

I feel that you could of gotten quite a bit more for your money but congratz hope you enjoy it :P

 
 
Vidar2 2 points 18 months ago

For with a monitor, its ok.

 
 
fsma92 [2 Builds] 1 point 18 months ago

The monitor is fine I mean the build itself..

 
 
Vidar2 2 points 18 months ago

No, I meant for a build with a monitor its a ok build.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

psu was 58 and case 53.

 
 
bbooiigg [1 Build] 2 points 18 months ago

Not really. Excluding the monitor and OS, the tower itself is only about $500, maybe less due to savings.

 
 
LegoPC [1 Build] 2 points 18 months ago

It's a stretch to say "quite a bit". Maybe if he got a "free" copy of Windows, then he probably could have purchased a better cpu and more memory. But looking at the prices he paid for individual components I'd say he did a very fine job indeed.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

Shave off $220 and you've got the price you're looking for. $530 isn't a bad price for an entry level rig.

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fsma92 [2 Builds] -1 points 18 months ago

I don't know how much you paid windows 7 but considering your initial price before rebates was 774$

I'll throw this out there; 711$ after rebate and what ever discount you got on the win7.

The 7850 is only 5$ more comes with the same games and performs a lot better. Free FC 3 Blood Dragon, Bioshock & Tomb Raider, limited offer

It's too late now I know, I'm not trying to criticize in any way. But next time you can look at the parts a bit more :) everything is on here you just got filter the stuff properly to get the best results.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $84.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $57.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $64.98 @ Outlet PC
Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card $139.99 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter Encore ENEWI-1XN42 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $7.99 @ Amazon
Case BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $24.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $29.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $14.98 @ Outlet PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.94 @ Outlet PC
Monitor Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor $119.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Microsoft Desktop 400 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $14.99 @ Dell Small Business
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $710.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 22:28 EDT-0400
 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

what the 7850 is cheaper? last time i checked and i checked everywhere it was 160 at that time 1 1/2 month ago...

and also i wanted a good psu because i didnt want to cop out lol, so i spent a few extra lol i was thinking of the amd but i figured the i5 would be better in the future.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

also take into account that you also need a heat sink fan...

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 18 months ago

and i wanted my case to be aesthetically pleasing and modular psu... so about the same price lol

 
 
fsma92 [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

As I said gotta learn to use the filters.. indeed the 7850 is cheaper after MIR I don't know if when you purchased it, it was that price but the 1gb 7850 is always around that price

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 17 months ago

Don't feel bad. The prices on parts change daily. You're always going to find the parts you wanted on sale after you purchase your build. It's just the way it works :P

 
 
18hockey [1 Build] -1 points 17 months ago

I dunno, Pentium and the 7790 wouldn't've been my first choices. You could've gone with an i5 and a 7850 (IMO). How does it run though? I'm quite interested.

 
 
ggeli [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 17 months ago

I don't know how to benchmark bioshock but it play it on high settings with no lag just a few hiccups, i don't really know how to determine if it runs well, everything is in working order and i can have many tabs open without lag

 
 
18hockey [1 Build] 0 points 17 months ago

Just use Fraps (fraps.com), it has a screen recorder and a feature that displays your FPS.