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I am a 14 year old who needs a better computer, as my two year old laptop is not adequate anymore for the games I play. The main uses of this computer are to play battlefield 4, far cry, and FSX at 60 FPS maxed out. I saved for a year and a half and shoveled TONS of snow off people's driveways to make money for this build, so please be gentle. Here is a more in depth description of why I chose each part.

CPU: I chose the 4570 because it was a bargain at microcenter, and I don't intend to overclock, so I don't need a 4670k or additional cooling. Also, I got a particularly good bin of the 4570. Most of them only boost with 1 or 2 cores up to 3.5 or 3.6GHz, with the others staying at 3.3 or 3.4Ghz. Mine, however, stays balanced at 3.55GHz across all cores.

Motherboard: It was cheap at microcenter bundled with my CPU, it's from a reliable brand, and it allows me to add another 770 in SLI later, so over all, I'm pretty satisfied with it. Also, from what I've heard, it's fairly good for overclocking, so if I get an unlocked CPU down the road, I should be able to achieve a good overclock.

RAM: It runs at the speed and timing that I wanted, is reasonably priced, and matches my motherboard, so it was a no-brainer.

SSD: This was something I chose to add on the last minute, and hold off on the new monitor until later. I am happy I chose to have an SSD, as my system boots amazingly fast.

HDD: It's cheap, reliable, and I don't need any more than 1TB, so it's a good fit.

GPU: I was initially going to go with a 280x, but the price skyrocketed (I built this PC in January), so I went with the 770. I chose PNY because they are one of the few companies that still offers lifetime warranties on their high-end graphics cards. I chose the 4GB model because I might upgrade to 1440p and SLI a second card in the future, and 2GB is not enough for demanding games like BF4 at 1440p. Also, the cooling is pretty good, but it does make a fair bit of noise, especially summer when it gets hot and muggy here in Boston, and the card runs hotter. I gave it a bit of an overclock just for a slight performance boost.

Case: It's roomy, offers pretty good cable management, and is pretty cheap. Note that I don't have any additional fans because I don't need them. I have the PC right in front of my air conditioner, so plenty of cold air blows in through the back.

PSU: I was originally going to go with a CX 600M, but this was a bargain at microcenter, so I chose it. For a PSU, it's massive, but it's fully modular, and very high quality. That said, I intend to replace it with an 850w Supernova G2 when I get enough cash, so I can add another 770.

Optical Drive: I need one to install older games which I have on CDs. I just chose the cheapest one I could find, and it works for what I need it for.

WiFi card: I initially was using Ethernet through a remote router, because their are no Ethernet ports in the room where I have the PC, but my remote router failed, so I figured it was worth the 15 bucks. I am surprised by how fast it is. It makes me realize that the one in my laptop is a piece of crap. I can stream 2 1080p videos at once with this guy.

OS: Windows 8.1 really isn't as bad as people say. If you don't like the new UI, just install classic shell, activate administrator account, and BAM! it's basically Windows 7.

Monitor: I was lucky enough to get this monitor on a one day overlap period between a promo code and rebate on Newegg, so I got it for dirt cheap.

I also have a fairly nice joystick (Saitek X52 with separate stick and throttle) for FSX and jets in BF4. I have had this for 2 years or so, which is why you don't see a price for it.

Overall performance: It runs everything maxed out at 1080p. BF4 usually runs about 80FPS, occaisionally dropping to 70 or 60 on bigger maps. It does sometimes drop below 60, but this is very rare, and it never goes below 50. FSX runs like a dream, even heavily modded. I simply set target frame rate to 60FPS, turn V-Sync on, and forget about it. Far Cry 3 is the most intensive game I run, but it does run smoothly, even in intense scenes such as raiding enemy bases, or blowing stuff up. I generally get 50-70FPS with everything on ultra. It does generally make the GPU run hotter than the other games I play, but only by a few degrees.

Part List
Details
Date PublishedMarch 29, 2014
Date BuiltJan. 18, 2014
Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate3.6GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle31.0° C
CPU Temperature Under Load59.0° C
PNY GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.29Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate7.30Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle26.0° C
GPU Temperature Under Load71.0° C
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jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 3 points 9 months ago

If anyone reading this knows, what would be a good mouse and keyboard for around 50 bucks? I am currently using a crappy wireless Logitech mouse and keyboard and it has at times seriously hindered my gaming performance. I've looked at some of the gigabyte ones but other than that, I am clueless.

 
 
PacificNic [2 Builds] 2 points 9 months ago

$50 each?

I would look at Cyborg, Razer, and Logitech for mice. (Razer DeathAdder is very well known)

For keyboards Logitech, Razer, and Corsair make good ones. All you can really do is just look around. I have the Corsair K90 and I am very happy but it is more costly. Hope you find what you need.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

no sorry 50 combined. I know I can't get a good keyboard for that much, so I intend to spend most of it on a mouse, and then buy a mechanical one later.

 
 
PacificNic [2 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

I guess just use a crappy keyboard and buy the DeathAdder or a similar Logitech. Not completely sure but I think that those are the most reputable brands. Just look at some reviews. I recommend HardwareCanucks for reviews. Hope you find what you need :)

 
 
infinitemerald [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

If I were you, and if you are still looking, I'd check out the Cooler Master Storm Bundle, which is $30. Though I've heard some negatives about the keyboard lighting being too bright and the mouse failing after only a year, most people on this site who got it say it works like a dream.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-keyboard-sgb3010kkmf1us

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

Nah, I got myself a K70 and a Perixx MX-2000II. Thanks though.

 
 
infinitemerald [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

Ah, nice! My bad.

 
 
EcoMCG [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

Please more internal pictures of all of your smexy components _^! +1

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

Ok I will post more soon.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 8 months ago

posted a few more. I finally got around to cleaning up the cables, and now I realize how lucky I am to have the source 530. it offers the best cable management ever!

 
 
smittypantz@hotmail.com [10 Builds] 2 points 5 months ago

Well thought out build nice work.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

thanks!

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

just to anyone reading this who has an opinion, what should I save up for, an i7 or a better power supply (so I can SLI a second 770)?

 
 
peanutbutter 1 point 9 months ago

I think a PSU would work in your favor because unless you use hyperthreading the i7 is too expensive.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

Alright. I just heard somewhere that BF4 utilizes hyperthreading, and it is one of the games I intend to play (haven't bought it yet). Regardless I guess a quality PSU will probably last longer than any of the other parts of this build (because there aren't always new generations of PSUs), and I could probably use it in a future build, so it does seem like a good investment. To be entirely honest though, by the time I buy new PSU (which will probably be $150-$200), the NVidia 800 series will be out, and a second 770 might not seem as desirable. Regardless, if I get an 800 series card and SLI that, it could still be worthwhile.

 
 
PacificNic [2 Builds] 2 points 9 months ago

That's a good enough PSU to handle a solid GPU. In my opinion, you should always purchase one better card than two mid-range card. That is up to you though. Personally, I would grab an R9 280X from AMD.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

I think the 770 will last for a while, and there is no point in getting a GPU that is very similar in terms of performance, but is ~$430 due to the litecoin mining situation.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

the reason I would get another PSU is to be fully SLI/CFX capable in the future, and once I upgrade to an 850w or 1000w PSU, I probably won't have to upgrade for another 5-7 years.

 
 
peanutbutter 1 point 9 months ago

Exactly. Although at the moment that PSU looks ready to handle another 760.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

It's a 770, so it uses a little more power and when I add a second one to the parts list the recommended wattage goes up to 700.

 
 
peanutbutter 1 point 9 months ago

Oh I see, in that case you would want that upgrade.

 
 
PacificNic [2 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

With Mantle support and such, it would be worth it to me. I do not hold the ultimate opinion, though. Others may and will disagree.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

Oh well. I already have the 770 in my PC and it runs everything at maximum, plus I already went over my budget and I can't afford a new video card even more expensive than my current one. I understand that the 280x is the AMD equivilent of my card, and there are certain advantages and disadvantages to both brands, and please believe me I have been researching since late September and I chose everything for a reason. A lot of games I play (flight simulators in particular) have horrible support for AMD cards. Not AMD's fault, but it makes the NVidia card more desirable to me, even if it means a slight performance loss in some more AMD optimized games like BF4

 
 
PacificNic [2 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

Yeah and I get that. I wish more people would understand that it comes down to personal preference and usage, not necessarily a specific brand.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

yes, and also what you are using your computer for. certain programs run better on Nvidia than AMD, and vice-versa

 
 
infinitemerald [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

Plus, Mantle is only supported in a select few newer games, so it rarely helps.

 
 
NeoKorean [1 Build] 1 point 9 months ago

how did u get a free processor

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 9 months ago

I got it at microcenter for 169.99 and for some reason it wont show up.

 
 
Norm101 [2 Builds] 2 points 9 months ago

You can manually enter the price. :)

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 8 months ago

I added all the prices now

 
 
Travedller25 1 point 7 months ago

I wanted to ask about this case and its cable management with the EVGA nex, which I have the fully modular one. I am wanting to get a new case to replace the 922 case I have because the lack of cable management. I wanted to ask if it was easy enough with managing the cables in this case and to place them behind the motherboard tray?

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 7 months ago

It was amazing. It has small metal structures on the back to attach cables to with zip ties (which come with it). Also, the modular hard drive system clears a lot of space, which makes it easy to route the cables. I have every single cable in an orderly fashion behind the motherboard tray, with not a single one in the front, and all of my components look great through the side. I would seriously recommend it.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 7 months ago

The NEX is a great PSU. The Price has risen a lot since I bought mine, but if you can find one for 60-80 dollars, go for it.

 
 
Daltonious 1 point 6 months ago

Have you bought BF4 yet? and if so whats the FPS on that? i plan on building practically the same build and was just wondering what i could expect on BF4. thanks

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 6 months ago

Max settings. I've only seen it drop below 60fps 2 or 3 times, and now that I overclocked my video card, it runs steady 70-90fps with 60-80fps on more full servers.

 
 
Daltonious 1 point 6 months ago

Oh thats brilliant. looking forward to making my build!

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 6 months ago

Have fun with that! if there's one thing I would recommend, it's buying the 4670k instead of a 4570, because it's only 20 bucks more, and adds the ability to overclock so it can be of use longer.

 
 
Daltonious 1 point 6 months ago

Way ahead of you http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Daltonious/saved/4oi0 thats what im looking at building right now

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 6 months ago

I'd go for a different CPU cooler. From what I know, those single fan radiators are only a step above something like a 212 evo, and they cost twice as much. I'd either go with a hyper 212, or get a 240mm radiator, like an H100.

 
 
Daltonious 1 point 6 months ago

Well i dont know if this makes a difference but it is actually a 2 fan radiator (one on either side) so i dont know if that would make a difference

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 6 months ago

That won't make much of a difference. A double width radiator would offer a much better price/performance ratio.

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 6 months ago

also be aware that when I play, battlefield tends to use about 2.3GB of video ram, so you may have to turn off anti-aliasing to achieve 60+fps steady.

 
 
pcKiddi3 1 point 5 months ago

Great job on the build, I'm working on a similar build and was wondering if you had any bottlenecks with the processor gpu combo. Is OCing a must?

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

not at all. They are very well balanced. The i5 is in the sweetspot where you won't have to worry about it bottlenecking even the best GPU (it was used alongside a GTX titan in the steambox beta), and the 770 is just about the best GPU in it's price range.

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jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 5 months ago

chill bro. You clearly haven't spend much time here. Just be glad you didn't manage your cables badly, or you would have a thousand of me on your back.

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Fidjet 0 points 4 months ago

mmm spaghetti... oh wait it's just cables

 
 
jacobs4525 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 4 months ago

at least mine are routed through the holes. These are also old pics and I've re-done them a few times since to satisfy myself.