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First build
by dunsjohn
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Description

Took the disc drive and hard drive (640gb 3gb/s wd blue) from old computer. Disc drive seems redundant as most software and installations are happening online, but I'll use it to install my OS since I have windows 7 pro already. Installing the HDD when I get my CPU shipped in.

I have no plans to overclock, hence why I went with an H87 mobo along with a locked cpu. The Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB DirectCU II card seemed to be the best card (in my price range). I will not use any AMD Radeon cards because I care more for Physx than Anti-Aliasing. It is all about personal preference here, friends. In addition, I know the MB is crossfire ready, but not SLI ready. I have no plans to SLI with this build. This is my budget gaming build so I went with what was reputable and cheap, yet able to run what I need.

I will be upgrading my HDD to a 1TB @ 6gb/s after buying an external hard drive. Later after that, I might buy a SSD, however an SSD isn't needed for school/light gaming.

I bought the Rosewill Challenger U3 because it suits my needs. Again, I'm not overclocking so I don't need the best ventilation. Due to not overclocking, and talking with some friends (who working with building computers daily) they said a stock fan is good enough if not overclocking, at least for a few years, as long as I clean it regularly (once in 8 months, they said).

PCPartPicker says I'm only going to use 300W, but Asus said I need a 450W psu, so I went with a 500W in case I want to do an upgrade to this current system later.

Case @ $54.73 USD via amazon PSU @ $40.62 via amazon GPU @ $196.19 via newegg RAM @ $93.46 via amazon MoBo @ $76.29 via newegg CPU @ 217.99 via amazon

All item prices include tax and had free shipping. The purchasing is completed, just waiting for the CPU to ship. More photos will be uploaded once cpu is installed.

Cable management was somewhat a deal for me. Meaning, I cared enough to cable manage, but didn't care enough to manage it 100%. The case was a bit awkward for cable management and after 30 minutes of trying to find the best way to manage them, I gave up and just tied them down in the best places I could. Some wires were way too long so I somewhat bundled them together.

Added storage and optical drive that best matched what I had from my old pc (both parts weren't on pc part picker). HDD is a WD 600 gb 3gb/s, and optical drive is basically the same as listed.

Part List
Details
Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate3.4GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle-
CPU Temperature Under Load-
Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.02Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate6.01Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle-
GPU Temperature Under Load-
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DrFrostSickle 5 points 7 months ago

Honestly you probably shouldve gotten some cheaper ram and gotten a MSI or Sapphire 270x. MAybe even a 270x HAwk from msi for only 20$ more an a helluva lot more ocable.

 
 
nerdymosh [2 Builds] 2 points 7 months ago

He Plans't to not OC. You honestly should have read the whole description dude

 
 
Swish2000 2 points 7 months ago

But still that 660 is a old card that is really not at all worth the price anymore. A 270/X is much better for the price.

 
 
nerdymosh [2 Builds] 3 points 7 months ago

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

I beg to differ lol they're pretty much the same card

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dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 0 points 7 months ago

Again if you read the description, I use Nvidia over AMD due to the whole physx vs AA deal. So, no thanks to the 270x, but thanks for the suggestion. The GTX 660 can still play on high/ultra settings on most games, even new ones (seeing stock gtx 660 with ultra on bf4 with x4 AA). I've been playing on Nvidia 9100m the past 5 years, so anything graphical quality increase is a huge increase for me. The 270x (non hawk) has a significantly lower base clock speed. If I OC it... I'd get what... 1.2/1.3 ghz on it for a stable OC? Where as with ASUS GPU Tweak, I could get 1.1 ghz and stable without the need to go into the BIOS.

I went with the RAM I chose because it was my first build. I'd rather be safe than sorry. I went to the MSI website and looked at what RAM is officially compatible with the motherboard. I bought the cheapest RAM from one of the more reputable companies (which are the only ones I trust right now as I'm inexperienced). The card is only about 14 months old. As well, I said it was a budget build. Highly suggest you read the description as everything you commented on was addressed prior to your comments via the description.

 
 
DrFrostSickle 3 points 7 months ago

You dont need to go to bios to oc the hawk. It is base overclocked anyway on arrival and then on the side you can select 3 different modes that way. I have used a 660 ti before and the hawk 270x is far better imo.

 
 
dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 0 points 7 months ago

Alright, well I don't know much about that card. However, what I do know is that amd is better with AA, and nvidia with physx. Something no one seems to have read in my description, nor in my reply. I'd rather have better physx quality than AA quality (AA x4 is plenty for me).

 
 
DrFrostSickle 3 points 7 months ago

Thats true but the performance difference is so miniscule at least with r9s that its not really a reason.. Still a very good build tho.

 
 
dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 0 points 7 months ago

Thanks. It was my first build. I know I spent a little more than needed (RAM) but I wanted to be safe, rather than sorry, and only stick with what was known to be compatible. If AMD ever gets a physx ready gpu (around the 200-300 range or cheaper) I'll definitely get it, because then it'd have the advantage of AA on top of being able to produce physx as nvidia does.

 
 
DrFrostSickle 1 point 7 months ago

OCing a gpu is very different from a cpu. I assumed he meant he was gonna not oc the cpu so he didnt have to buy a cooler..

 
 
nerdymosh [2 Builds] 1 point 7 months ago

True but still don't think he'll do it lol

 
 
dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 0 points 7 months ago

There's not really a need to OC the gpu at this time, as I'm seeing this exact card playing most games at high or ultra settings (with AA down at x4 of course). I will, of course, utilize the asus gpu tweak function if I'm not able to reach a high setting on a game I play.

Even though I'm not oc'ing, I will be buying an after market cooler because about 15-20% of the chip isn't in contact with the heatsink (from what I've read). That and the heat sink can get noisy after a year (again from what I've read). I'll probably end up buying a heatsink in January/Frebruary after I get the hard drive.

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dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 3 points 7 months ago

Flockav3li - "You obviously didnt research because you bought a 660 which is the least price for performance and you payed $40 dollars too much for ram." - what you wrote...

Why don't you try reading? Ram was chosen for a reason, read other comments.

And why is the 660 the least price for performance? http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

5th best price/performance on passmark. Did you do your research, Flockav3li? Pretty sure that the Asus Gtx 660 would score even higher on the passmark price/performance chart due to higher clock speeds, and since I got it during a sale... along with doing a rebate, of which I'm waiting for it to come in. Please do your research before you tell someone they didn't do research, lol. Nice try, though. I'm not an expert in computers as this is my first build, but pretty sure noobs can prove your statement wrong.

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dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 7 months ago

"I am not a dumb the 660 is definitely not the best nvidia card on the $200 price point do some more research." - Flockav3li's statement...

The next best card to price(760) comes out at 250, during black friday sale, normally 270... so yeah... wanna do some research bud?

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperClocked-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-2765-KR/dp/B00DHW4HXY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385791104&sr=8-2&keywords=nvidia+760

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-GTX-670-DC2-2GD5-GTX670-DC2-2GD5/dp/B0081IFO2C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385791129&sr=8-2&keywords=nvidia+670

http://www.amazon.com/Graphics-Overclocked-Edition-GTX660-TI-DC2O-2GD5/dp/B008Y65MUA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385791262&sr=8-2&keywords=nvidia+660+ti

I might be a noob at building computers, but if you can't even do research yourself before making a comment, don't try man. the GTX 660 is THE best card you can get from Nvidia at 200 USD. Showed prices of the 660ti, 670 and 760, all of greater price than 200 USD. Amazon is great at lowering their prices when newegg gives a coupon code. I don't live near a microcenter or anything like that, so if that is where you're talking about... you need to learn that stores aren't located in every city. Which then begs the question, did you do research on that if that is your point? Doubtful

Why are you even fighting this? I proved you wrong once, and now you're trying to make a new argument, which I just proved you wrong again. What's your new statement gonna be?

Find another build to troll on... you're not very bright because you make dumb statements without any basis/backing. If you tell someone to research, do research yourself and take obstacles into consiteration.

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dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 4 points 7 months ago

Are you * kidding me? Strop stroking your * to nvidia and wake up. The 7870 cockslaps the * out of the gtx 660 POS. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_650_Ti_Boost/8.html -- Flockav3li's newest comment. Waiting for the troll to retreat and delete his comments.


"I am not a dumb the 660 is definitely not the best nvidia card on the $200 price point do some more research."

Your statement. The 7870 is not an Nvidia card. Now you deviated from your own argument... kind of wish people were more intellectual.

Again buddy, try reading, for once in your life. I said I prefer Physx as to AA, Nvidia beats AMD in terms of Physx, AMD beats Nvidia in terms of AA. Do your research. I commend you for actually doing a bit of research, even though you aren't paying attention to your own statements.

In your own words, time to wake up Flockav3li. You need to pay attention not only to what I wrote in description and comments to you and others, but your own comments as well.

 
 
Ice_Koll 1 point 2 months ago

Lol that was awesome dunsjohm.

 
 
dunsjohn [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks. Haha. I love it when people talk **** and don't know what they're saying, and I've done even more research and will be making an AMD system, which shows I'm not an NVidia fanboy, but I love the new concept of the Mantel System.