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Upgraded IamApropos Gaming Machine
by IamApropos
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Description

(I am a computer parts and build consultant. If you would like to have a one on one consultation please feel free to contact me on my website): Here: www.IamApropos.com - This Build was completed October 4th 2012.

[Edit] as of 4/23/2013 My system has changed yet again - I no longer have SLI Gigabyte GTX 670OC cards, I have reverted to a single EVGA GTX 670 FTW Sig 2. - I will eventually upgrade to a second card and a 120Hz / 144Hz monitor. [/Edit]

(old build notes) This system is for heavy gaming - since gaming does not take advantage of hyper threading I chose the 3570k. Also went with 8GB of 1600 ram because a gaming machine will barely use 8GB which would make 16GB a waste. If I need to, the system will allow me to add more later. No need for optical drive since I download all the games + content off of steam or origin. I figured I'd throw this back up here with the addition I put into my system. SLI'd the GPU!!! Now I'll just start looking around for a great sale on a 120Hz monitor and use the 60Hz monitor for surfing the web / chatting with people while I stream live game play and live computer builds. The Extra storage I use my laptop to rip DVD's and store them and have it setup as a shared drive for my network so that anyone anywhere in the house can watch movies.

Most items I have in my system were purchased at a discount, with coupons, and combos. CPU:$200 MB: $145 GPU: $410 h100i: $99 Case: $99 SSD: $99 HDD: $65 PSU: $105 after rebate Win 8: $39 K90 KB: $89 *RAT 7 mouse: $75

To locate some great deals check out this website: http://www.techbargains.com it helped me get some great deals. Happy Building!

Part List
Details
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate4.2GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle30.0° C
CPU Temperature Under Load60.0° C
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.33Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate1.60Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle32.0° C
GPU Temperature Under Load65.0° C
3DMark 11 Benchmark Results
Performance Preset ScoreP9563
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TestBuilds 13 points 21 months ago

"I sense a disturbance in the force..." Someone actually made an amazing build without throwing away there money!

 
 
JetD 8 points 21 months ago

Hahah. Can't Wait till I post my build many people are going to say I wasted money on the Motherboard. XD

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JetD 6 points 21 months ago

Hahha, Yes I did... xD But It's a great board and It's better than the Rampage IV or V. It's got Built-in wifi, Overclocks easily, and is your best bang for buck! The Thermal armor is no gimmick, it actually helps cool the motherboard itself! Hahah, jk. What BS Facts. I went for the Maximus V Formula for Future watercooling loops, wifi, and On board audio. Though mostly I went for the color co-ordination of black and red.

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JetD 1 point 21 months ago

Actually, what's wrong with the Sabertooth Z77? I'm thinking of getting it, though only for aesthetics & a custom cpu loop.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 21 months ago

if your buying it for looks, then nothing. But because so many other boards offer more for way less, you actually are just paying for the name and looks of the board so it doesn't seem reasonable to purchase the board unless its for aesthetics.

 
 
iiLeGiT101 [1 Build] 14 points 14 months ago

That's the story of Beats and Apple products lol.

 
 
Bartmanicus [1 Build] 2 points 15 months ago

As someone who owns the board, you are correct. It's not that it doesn't offer great feature's, it's just that other boards offer the same stuff for less, however it's an awesome looking high quality board so whatever floats your boat.

 
 
AustinTheTimelord [1 Build] 2 points 8 months ago

And with actual GOOD pictures!

 
 
Mincading [10 Builds] 4 points 21 months ago

Very balanced system! I just don't like the overpriced mobo. Other than that u made great choices!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 3 points 21 months ago

I would agree about the price on the motherboard but when I purchased it, Newegg had it at $169.99 and in a bundle with the CPU which dropped it another $25 so I only payed $145.99 for it, which puts it near the MB I was originally choosing the (Edit)Z77(Edit) UD3H.

Now that its $189, and I have used it and realize its potential with Thunderbolt and all the things it gives benefit to overclocking, I'd buy it again in a heart beat.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Be grateful you didn't get the UD3H. I have it in my personal PC and fight boot loops regularly. I just can't be bothered waiting on an RMA. I work for an IT company, and even expedited, RMA's from Gigabyte were bad enough for us to stop using them.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 4 points 14 months ago

I've actually used the UD3H on many, many builds and haven't experienced that problem at all in fact its one of my most recommended boards because of its reliability compared to other boards in the same price range (example Extreme 4 Asrock). Sounds like a bios problem but wouldn't be certain without really diving into it.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 0 points 14 months ago

They updated the bios, but it doesn't fix the boot loops. It's actually a fairly common problem with the boards.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 14 months ago

I guess its fortunate that with how many I've used I've not encountered it.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 0 points 14 months ago

If we are both talking about the Z68 UD3H, then you are either lucky, or I am one of the very unlucky few. People tend to speak out when things go bad, but keep quiet when they work. Personally, I got this board on sale for around $100, but for a board that's still listed for $170, I expected it to last longer without issues. There are things I love about it, but then it reminds me almost every time I reboot how much I hate it.

From what I understand though, it's not so much a Gigabyte problem, as it is a Z68 problem. Gigabyte's just happened to be one of the boards that had issues more frequently.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 3 points 14 months ago

Sorry, I am talking about the Z77 UD3H. I have very limited hands on experience with the Z68 Platform.

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 0 points 14 months ago

Ah my mistake then. I wasn't aware that there was a Z77 version. That explains our difference in our experiences. :P

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

indeed ;)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

I use to be a big part in helping people with build suggestions on tomshardware about a year ago and I too was one of the people who was suggesting the ASRock Extreme 4 board for nearly every build until the last 9 out of the last 10 builders I had suggested that board to indicated they had to RMA the board for various reasons and 7 of those had to RMA it more than once. When I compare that to the last 20+ builds that I've suggested the Gigabyte UD3h I've only had one builder need to RMA his board.

In regards to the Gigabyte RMA - I recently had them fully refund me on one of the GTX 670 graphics cards I had because 3 of their replacements were worse then the one I needed replaced. This makes it really difficult for me to further suggest their graphics cards though the remaining card we still have is still working flawlessly despite the abuse it is put under daily.

 
 
darren97 2 points 21 months ago

Great build!!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 21 months ago

Thank you _^

 
 
JetD 2 points 21 months ago

You missed the Acer 120hz monitor Sale for $199 Anyways, great build!

How are those two 670's coming along?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 21 months ago

I got paid like 2 days after a recent sale... I figure black friday coming up I can probably find something.

Those cards are AMAZING!! I've compared them singular and sli'ed over clocked to a friends single GTX 680 EVGA and SLI and my cards get a higher graphics score on 3Dmark11.. Needless to say he was pissed and in disbelief.

 
 
JetD 1 point 21 months ago

Hahah, How funny. :) You'll find some sick deals on Black Friday. Nice. Probably feels depressed now xD You said you're using this for heavy gaming, What games?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 21 months ago

BF3, Guild Wars 2, Mechwarrior Online, Hawken, Borderlands 2 >_< uhm League of Legends(though not much) oh and dable in Diablo 3 occasionally. Can't wait to get into Planetside 2!!!

 
 
JetD 2 points 21 months ago

Aww Ya! Planetside 2 Is beautiful, though It's not free anymore :(

 
 
TehGuy 3 points 21 months ago

it's still F2P. You have the option to pay the 40 somethin dollars for instant access.

I doubt they'd be all like "oh yeah, it will be free" for this long and then go "nope, nevermind"

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 21 months ago

"You have been selected to hit the front lines and participate in the PlanetSide 2 Beta! " Its free for me _^ I just got the email today!!!

 
 
burgess673 [1 Build] 2 points 21 months ago

Awesome build!

 
 
iwalkwithedead [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

I see your name on a lot of comments and you know your PC, can I get your personal feedback on a build I am doing? If this site has PM I would just do that. -Thanks

By the way, Nice Build!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

Sure, glad to help. You can reach me at:

http://www.facebook.com/IamApropos

 
 
iwalkwithedead [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

How's the headset?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

I tested turtle beachs that cost $100+ and some other gaming headsets. These by far felt to be the highest quality and the sound they produce is absolutely amazing. I got them when they were $69.99 with an added rebate. When I was first testing headsets these were over $100 so for anything cheaper its a steal.

 
 
iwalkwithedead [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

I owned Turtle Beach x31 and they were good but that was for Xbox 360. I have bookmarked a Turtle Beach Z6A PC gaming headset and Corsair Vengeance 1500. I'm still debating on which to buy, however you have never directed me into the wrong direction so looks like Corsair it is. xD

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

One thing to think about with them though, I have a big head and they did take a month to get use to because they squeezed my head quite a bit. I also had to go to the corsair website and buy the letherette replacement ear buds. So if you have a big head you might find they do squeeze your head. My wife couldn't wear them for longer then 1hour without getting a headache. So the only other ones that were slightly similar in quality were Steel Series but they were $89.99 or something like that.

 
 
iwalkwithedead [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

That sucks I do have a monster size head. :[ Hopefully when I get the money to actually buy the pair I will be able to check them out at Micro Center.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

My wife describes them as "They weight a ton"!! At the beginning I felt the same way but the sound quality was just.... simply... Amazing. I actually pulled out all my super hero movies, Xmen Series, Ironman Series and was just blown away so I lived with it :P

 
 
iwalkwithedead [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

Well, I'm torn now then between the 1500 [70$] and the 2000 [105$] series. I will make my decision whenever I go to actually purchase the headset. -Thanks

 
 
medic459 2 points 20 months ago

Sorry - I can't seem to find another way to do this:

I've read your many comments and I respect your opinion. What do you think about my potential build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/psly

I do some minor photoshop work + gaming. I don't need cutting edge stuff, but don't want to half-ass it.

I sifted through way too many contradicting reviews so at this point i'm brain dead when it comes to mobo, memory, gpu selections...

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 20 months ago

Well if you have Facebook and want to discuss multiple options easier you can message me at : http://www.facebook.com/IamApropos I can supply links to most of my thoughts behind parts I suggest and hopefully get you a parts list that will fit your needs for a great price :D

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kiggaxwut [1 Build] 2 points 20 months ago

Haha, you weren't kidding. I thought you meant my build was similar to another recent post, but looking at this, I get it now. Nice SLI setup, I bet your rig racks up the FPS! Nice choice on the mouse, got one myself. How's that headset? I went with a Siberia v2.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

The choices I tested were Turtle beach, Steel Series Siberia v2 and this. If I was to choose again I love this corsair but it did take me 2 months to get use to, the Siberia didn't feel as tight of a fit. For $69 its one heck of a deal for the quality of sound

 
 
adam360x [1 Build] 0 points 13 months ago

No, just no. The steel series have better sound, and I have the turtle beach px5s (250$) and it doesn't even come close to my Audiotechnica ath-ad700s. They are the best headphones for gaming in then world under 300$ and they are only 100$. And if you say, "Whadda bout a mic?" Then get a blue yeti and these headphones and you have the best mic-headphones set-up in the world. :)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 13 months ago

I'm confused "no, just no" what? no to the Steelseries Siberia V2's or no to the Corsair headset? I was merely stating what I have experienced and what I'd choose again if I had to do it at over for $69 :P

From the looks of it, I may be wrong, but you are suggesting spending $100 on headphones and $100 on a mic, roughly?

 
 
adam360x [1 Build] 2 points 13 months ago

The Audio Technica ATH-AD700's are the best headphones for gaming, period. They kick this **** out of any Astros,Trittons, or Turtle Beach or anything else you throw at them. I was suggesting that mic just because you are still miles ahead then with the Astro a50s. You could just get a removable boom mic for ~15$

 
 
essence 2 points 20 months ago

dat cable management how long did you spend on it?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 20 months ago

30 minutes of planning and 30 implimented.

 
 
tengarp [1 Build] 2 points 19 months ago

i like the neat cable management

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 19 months ago

Thank you :D

 
 
rwelikal [1 Build] 2 points 19 months ago

Wow, great system! Must run like a beast! Looks like you're getting amazing temps as well!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 19 months ago

;) thank you, I'm proud of my build.

 
 
wobblemaster 2 points 16 months ago

Wondering why you got Windows 8, I plan to get a Windows 7 but I'm not sure which I should get.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

after I tested it for 3 months I found it loaded games and software noticeably faster than 7. I do not utilize the Motro UI and I find that once I got use to the layout I prefer 8 now and have put it on all my systems. Mind you all of my computers are mainly for gaming.

 
 
wobblemaster 1 point 16 months ago

Thanks for the reply! :D

 
 
Destrokk [2 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

That's surprising. I seem to see a lot of people who have problems gaming with Win8. I didn't care for it much with what I've done, but I also haven't been taking it to seriously due to all the bad feedback in the gaming community. (I'm also one of those people who gamed on XP until Win7 RC)I just might have to give it a shot on one of my rigs.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

You know I've only seen people on forums complaining about Windows 8 yet all the gamers I play with on a daily basis have not once described any problems excluding their dislike of the Metro UI.

 
 
theblakeman9 2 points 16 months ago

How are you liking that windows 8? Have you had any problems with it so far?

Btw I like yo build you got there, nice work! :)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Thank you, I actually tested 8 for a while. All the computers in my house now are running it. That is how much I like it.

 
 
theblakeman9 1 point 15 months ago

Alrighty then, win8 it is haha. Thanks for the res ponce!

 
 
PacificNic [1 Build] 2 points 16 months ago

How do you find Win8's compatibility with Steam and some games? I've heard of people having issues with setting up their games and such.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 16 months ago

I've actually not run into any issues with steam, nor have any builders I've consulted with reported any problems either.

 
 
PacificNic [1 Build] 1 point 16 months ago

Alright, thanks! :)

 
 
mantawing [1 Build] 2 points 15 months ago

Amazing build!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Thank you.

 
 
Ggadget 2 points 15 months ago

Ooh razer!

 
 
xBlood_Monkey [9 Builds] 2 points 14 months ago

I don't usually do this, but I was wondering if you could take a look at my build. It is a repost, but I think enough changes were made to warrant it.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/BLA

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

:) I appreciate you stopping by. It looks great the last upgrade that could top this build off is maybe a FX-8350 ;) I wouldn't quite do Crossfire yet unless you could jump straight into 3 way. Aside from that the only other upgrade would be if you don't have a gaming monitor with a 120Hz or 144Hz refresh rate.

I'd be interested in seeing some benchmarks maybe 3DMark11 - Heaven Unigine / Valley. Happy Computing!

 
 
PirateCoffee 2 points 14 months ago

If your still active, could i ask you a couple of questions? What's your opinion of the case? Is it simple enough to install the h100i to the Phantom 410? (Getting the same case and cooler. :) )

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 14 months ago

I am still active. Depending on the motherboard and the heatsinks on it you have to install it with the fans seperated from the radiator by the case. Though if I were to pick out a case for around $100 now I'd be going with the Corsair vengeance C70. The cable management is superior and so is the build quality.
First off the fan controller on one of the phantom 410 cases died when we first got them. We have two of them. Now not even 7 months later and both the top 140mm fans that came with both cases have started making horrible noises. They do replace parts under warranty but when I had them replace my fan controller it took nearly 2 months and they sent parts to a different case which I don't own 2 different times and also they sent melted bad parts along. The absolute worst customer service I've ever dealt with in the computer industry to date.

The case when it works, such as my wifes, is a good case. Though the case fans seem cheaply made and the grommets are very very loose. The grommets easily come off and don't very easily go back on.

Hope that helps.

 
 
PirateCoffee 1 point 14 months ago

What's a nice Corsair Case that is around £80-90? Corsair 500R Black?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Not sure about £ being in USA but usually around that price in the states is the C70 Vengeance.

 
 
Magicguy38 0 points 13 months ago

Pounds convert to USD at this rate USD to Pounds= 1*0.66 Pounds to USD= 1/0.66

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

that doesn't help one bit since components are sold at a different price compared to the states. an item in the states maybe $100 but 200 pounds in the UK just an example.

 
 
Djangosp2 [1 Build] 2 points 14 months ago

Someone had the bright idea to vote all of your comments down... I haven't the slightest idea why so I voted everything up to remedy that.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 14 months ago

Thank you - it usually happens quite often when someone disagrees with something I have said but can't prove me wrong.

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JJSpro 1 point 16 months ago

Personally, i think it is a bad idea to have your cpu water cooler on the top.. if it breaks all your parts will get wet and wont work, but if in my better nothing will get wet, maybe the power supply.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

Thats not a bad idea though the h100i doesn't have long enogh tubes for me to mount anywhere else. Id prefer it in the front or bottom otherwise. Though if it fails because of hardware malfunction and not my cause corsair has been known to cover parts that have been destroyed if their product caused the damage

 
 
Lightdrive 1 point 16 months ago

how long did it take you to sli the gpu's

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 16 months ago

What do you mean how long did it take me? as in how long did it take me to install it into my motherboard? plug in the power cable to the second graphics cards. and power it on?

 
 
Lightdrive 1 point 16 months ago

No like set it up in sli

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 16 months ago

it takes seconds to turn SLI on in Nvidia. You go to Nvidia control panel and enable SLI presto chango :P

 
 
Lightdrive 1 point 16 months ago

OH ok cool

 
 
Angkorian_Knight 1 point 16 months ago

Great build! How are you finding the Corsair K90 keyboard and are red switches your preferred choice?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 16 months ago

Thank you and its amazing! great for the different types of games I play and as well not extremely noisy for typing like some other switches are.

 
 
Kofi96 1 point 15 months ago

how do you like the case i am thinking of getting the exact same one

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 15 months ago

I like it a lot but for the same price I would now go with a corsair c70.

 
 
Kofi96 1 point 15 months ago

the fan holes on the viewing window do not look very aesthetically pleasing to me

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 15 months ago

agreed and actually didn't like it at first until I ran SLI and seen the heat it produces. The fan mount on the side reduces the temperatures quite significantly now I can't live without it.

 
 
PacificNic [1 Build] 1 point 15 months ago

How are your fans set up? I assume that you've managed to achieve positive air pressure. Thanks! :)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 15 months ago

I have 2x120mm fans intake in the front, 1x 140mm fan exhaust on side panel, 1x120mm fan exhaust on the back and 2x120mm fans exhaust on radiator on top. and yes if the difference in air pressure between my setup and my wifes who has one more exhaust fan than intake is huge. If we kept her system that way she'd need to dust her system once every week or 2 where I don't need to maybe once a month. Same cases, same room.

 
 
PacificNic [1 Build] 1 point 15 months ago

Don't you mean side intake? That would give negative pressure otherwise.. Thanks for the info, my friend has this and was wondering :)

 
 
XIHackInABoxIX [7 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Very nice build. I love the choice of case.

How is the H100i treating you? I had read some horror stories online that people had loops that would leak.

Also, do you notice any issues with your SLI configuration while playing games? I was planning on getting a second 680, but was hesitant to do so since I have read things concerning "bugs" in the SLI profiles.

Is this true or a bunch of poppycock? Lmao.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 15 months ago

Hello, I read some bad reviews on the h100i myself but had found them to not be as accurate as they first came across. I have had some issues with SLI though very few. I had the ability to get any graphics card setup I wished including a 690 and if I wanted I was going to start off with one single powerful card. I had determined the difference between the 680 and 670 was so little that it wouldn't be noticed in game play, especially at that high of frame rate. So I purchased the 670 and have proven while testing against 680s while both being overclocked to their max stable that a lot of the time the 670s I have had could perform on par or within 2-5FPS at max / average frames. Wasn't worth the $100-$150 difference at the time I purchased. Putting my SLI 670s against a 690 I saw there was no defining difference in performance maybe within margin of error, so I'm happy I saved the money and didn't buy the over priced 680 nor the 690. The issues I've seen with the SLI setups have been with games such as BF3, where the cards just act like they aren't being put under load and just drop performance from time to time. As said sometimes a single card has been known to perform better than them in SLI, but only in that game. I haven't noticed this issue in nearly any other game I've played. :P longer response then I intended tldr: h100i is great and I haven't seen many problems with SLI, just a few small ones.

 
 
XIHackInABoxIX [7 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Thank you for your reply.

I got my 680 for $489 through Amazon, with Galaxy's rebate.

The price has now gone up on them since then, and I believe the rebate is no longer in effect. I am trying to debate if I should just wait for the next gen of cards, or wait until I can find another good deal on the card.

I had looked into SLI before I built the computer, and I wanted to leave my options open, but I had also read that SLI had sporadic problems, and that sometimes a single card performed better/ had less problems.

I also thought about the 690, but it is a dual-GPU system... effectively SLI, but sharing the same PCI-e adapter.

There is always the Titan which is a beast of a card, considering it is singular... but I think a 670 or 680 in SLI would have better performance for price.

So far I have not really had any issues with my 680, except for in ARMA 3... with everything maxed out I average 45 FPS which is still playable, and acceptable by many people. But honestly I notice the difference between 45 FPS and 60 FPS.

Also, nice to hear that your h100i has been working good for you.

Thanks for your time :)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

I had the same issue in arma 3, 45 to 50 fps with a single card, not sli. It is always nice to talk shop thanks for stopping by.

 
 
Jimmy 1 point 15 months ago

This may seem like a late response but those issues in BF3 weren't because of SLI. I have one single 7870 Ghz (I got it about 6 months before the XT came out) and it occasionally acts like it isn't under load and causes the framerate to drop. It happens very rarely though, and usually at the very start of the match. But anyways, what made you get rid of the SLI setup? Was it because of microstutter?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 15 months ago

well the problems I ended up having turned out to be a bad card which only really showed its problem in SLI. I had some things come up which were going to prevent me from upgrading my monitor to a 120Hz+ and I had no intention to play on more than 1 monitor so I figured I don't need the extra performance. Also My wife gave up her 660 ti SLI because the performance of her single 670 was more reliable and the images actually looked better. I couldn't be happier actually with the single EVGA card. It has not displayed any of the issues with boost and it acting like its idle, in fact the second it loads a game its max boost with stock settings of 1215Mhz and doesn't go down until I go into a menu screen.

When I was using my main setup with SLI, I actually didn't notice much micro stuttering though when I tested crossfire setups on a single monitor I noticed a heck of a lot of tearing which gave me a headache. I'll probably go SLI again when I have a firm upgrade path for my monitor. Maybe crossfire when they fix the bad quality frames problem that causes horrible crossfire performance on a single monitor. We'll see what this next year brings.

 
 
Jimmy 1 point 15 months ago

Okay, that makes sense now. What problem did the bad card end up having? But to be honest all this on top of my card really don't make me want to get Gigabyte cards anymore. Because the acting like it's idle thing is only one of my cards problems, it's HDMI port (which I use because I use my HDTV as a monitor for now) has quit working for about a week at one point and then randomly started working again -_-, and it coil whines worse than anything on the planet. The next card I get will probably be an Asus DCII, although I can honestly say that my card is a solid performer and despite all of those cons, it is a good card.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 15 months ago

Well that idle thing was the first card. Gigabyte replaced it with the only thing that they have available to them "Refurbished" card. They do not replace cards with new cards - but I knew this about most manufacturers. The card they sent me to replace my card right out of the box displayed artifacts and crashed. They had sent me this card via advanced RMA so I sent in not only my original card but also was asked to return their defective replacement, which they claimed repeatedly that they tested it before sending me. The 3rd card, second replacement now, would only last max 15 minutes in any game and then start displaying choppy graphics and finally crash. I worked with tech support for months and a flaw in their testing is that they only run benchmarks which are usually a lot shorter than any gamer ever spends in a game. So they may be looking into changing their testing policy. In the end they gave me a full refund on my purchase.
Though now you've mentioned the ASUS DCII card.. I had similar issues with another builder and he ended up switching to the card I have in my system now. There seems to be a known issue with boost and non reference cards. Though the issues that ASUS was having with their cards is that the factory was sending them out with unstable clock speeds so they wouldn't even work out of the box. I think that has been resolved now but no telling until you get the card and test it.

If you haven't seen my benchmark results I have posted on my facebook page for the current card in my system, I'd suggest going to take a look.

 
 
Jimmy 1 point 15 months ago

I saw one of the benchmarks in the build picture =D Pretty good for a single card. But yeah, it sounds like Gigabyte has terrible customer service, I'm glad I didn't chose to deal with them for something as minor as coil whine. But yeah, I meant I would shoot for the DCII if I were to get another radeon card, if it were a Nvidia card, then I would get an EVGA signature 2 like you seem to recommend. However, I really like the DCII's aesthetics XD. But I'm gonna go check out your other benchmarks now, see how well that single 670 at 1300+ Mhz handles them.

 
 
Eredicate 1 point 14 months ago

Awesome build. I'm guessing there's not that big of a difference between the 670 2 GB FTW Edition and the 670 GB FTW Edition and that's why there's not that big of a price difference?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you - Well I have had 4 different Gigabyte cards and non of them could overclock over 1251Mhz, which is still a good overclock but this EVGA card has gone up to 1333Mhz. The Gigabyte cards are not reference 680 PCB where as the EVGA Sig 2 although not a reference cooler is still a reference PCB based on the 680 PCB. Both are great cards I have just found that the EVGA has been overall the most powerful 670 I've tested.

 
 
Eredicate 1 point 14 months ago

Oh, thanks for the explanation. I also like the amount you OC'd your CPU to . Not too much and definitely enough for anything. I'm still a newb at OCing and I have no idea how to do it, but yea. :/ Hopefully, I'll be able to build a pc like yours in the future. Thanks again

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

if you haven't already, I encourage you to go look at some of the other builds I've helped with on the "Build" page of my website - http://www.IamApropos.com

Enjoy ;)

 
 
Eredicate 1 point 14 months ago

Just looked through them now. Looks like you're very helpful! I'm going to try to learn OCing, but it'll be a hard way. Thanks for the help.

 
 
Melson 1 point 14 months ago

Any overheat problem? Is it making loud noises ?

Any optical drive recommendation?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

No overheating issues what so ever. Depending in specific use, usually people only need an optical to install os so they get the cheapest available.. mI like sony, lg and asus drives personally.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Also is what specifically making loud noises?

 
 
Melson 1 point 14 months ago

Nevermind about that question. Wow what a quick response.

Im just quoting this from someone : i am not a gamer but that looks like a tidy build, the only thing i would consider changing is the water cooling, the H100, on bench tests, only gives slightly better cooling than a high end air cooler also it is prone to early failure

What do you think? Im planning on building this computer of yours. Looks solid to me

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

I personally don't like the looks of Air coolers they are big and ugly. the h100i has a nice warranty that will last me long enough with my build so I'm happy with it.

There are a few changes to my build I would make for my own personal needs because some components were released after I had purchased my build. An example would be the motherboard - I don't have use for thunderbolt technology but because this MB was extremely cheap with bundles it won. I'd definitely be getting something like the UD4H or the MSI Mpower. That is just one example of something I'd change, there would be the SSD being another.

hope that helps ;)

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

You do know that the new Haswell INTEL chip launches June 3rd?, Also This week the Nvidia 770 Launches and a week from that the 760 Ti. I've been researching the new chip and motherboards as well as the new graphics cards quite extensively. Ivy Bridge is the last in its socket 1155 meaning there are no upgrade paths for Z77 motherboard / this intel chip. The Haswell chip is the new CPU for a new socket, 1150. This new socket is the start of a cycle so the next chip after it will also fit into the 1150 socket. This gives you an upgrade path for "Future Proofing" so if you want to upgrade later you only need the chip not the motherboard too.

 
 
xCloudyHorizon 1 point 13 months ago

So how do you like this case, especially with the H100i? Also, how's the keyboard?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 13 months ago

There is not enough room in the top of the case directly above the motherboard to fit the fans directly onto the radiator if you have big heatsinks on your motherboard. So it isn't ideal but it works. The keyboard is fantastic because it doesn't make loud noise when typing like some other switches and it has an extremely high quality feel. Only thing is the newer versions are better suited for me. I play all genres of games even MMO's but the side "MMO" keys are useless to me, they are to far away to be utilized in any form of game I've tried yet. The side keys are slightly lower and since they are further away than the CAPS LOCK button just makes them extremely inconvenient to use. Somebody might love them, they just aren't for me. Though my wife has the k60 and its awesome, just want the back light version.

 
 
xCloudyHorizon 2 points 13 months ago

Do you think there would be any clearance issues with the H100i and a Sabertooth motherboard?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 13 months ago

depends on the case for example my case doesn't give ample room for fans and radiator to be together within the case especially if the motherboard has heat sinks above the CPU and sometimes the memory lanes can impede into where the Radiator needs to sit BUT if you install the fans at the top of the case with the case between the fans and radiator there is no issues excluding a little bit loss in airflow through the Radiator.

other cases have enough room for the combined fans and radiator such as the Fractal Design Midi R2 where the mounting for the radiator on top is off set so it wont cause clearance issues with most kits. Hope this helps ;)

 
 
xCloudyHorizon 1 point 13 months ago

I have nearly the exact same build as you, aside from newer model storage, CPU and GPU, so I was happy someone else stuck so close to what I was building.

I appreciate all the help though, thanks again!

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 13 months ago

you're very welcome and if you haven't already I encourage you to see some of the other builds I've worked on at my website build page and photo album on my facebook page ;) Enjoy

 
 
Jimmy 1 point 13 months ago

Push is much more effective than pull with radiators.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

That maybe but I agree with this video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk

 
 
Jimmy 1 point 13 months ago

I see, I would still replace Corsair's stock fans because I heard they were rather loud though. Also because better fans would drop a couple degrees as well.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

That I may very well end up doing.

 
 
wobblemaster 1 point 13 months ago

Nice build, I'm building a computer and planning to get a 256 gb ssd, should I keep 1 tb hdd in the build along with the ssd or not? Just wondering. :D

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

well you'll want to keep in mind that the more times you write to the SSD the quicker it will die which is why most people keep a HDD handy for writing to and storage to save on the life of their SSD. Thank you by the way on the compliment.

 
 
wobblemaster 1 point 13 months ago

Also I do a lot of photoshop, should I keep 16 gb of ram or go with 8 gb?

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subdivided [1 Build] 1 point 13 months ago

Nice build, but I was just wondering how you got windows 8 for $39?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

I had originally started testing windows 8 in the release consumer preview and they offered Windows 8 Pro upgrades for $39 in Jan. Since it showed to have better performance in games vs 7 we switched all of our computers to 8.

 
 
XIHackInABoxIX [7 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

Did you have any fitment issues with the H100i in your system?

I am helping a buddy with a $1,300 build, and decided on that cooler, in a black Phantom 410.

Feel free to check out the parts list, and critique it. Your feedback is welcome.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/XIHackInABoxIX/saved/1MZf

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

if you look at the pictures you can see the fans are not directly on the radiator but they are on top of the case with the radiator inside on the opposite side of the top of the case. The top of the case is seperating the fans and radiator, this was the only way I could fit it in the Phantom 410.

 
 
dannymad1 1 point 13 months ago

How did you mount the radiator with the 2 200mm fans I recently bought the phantom 630 and wanted to do the same thing. Do i just need long screws ?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 13 months ago

Well first the phantom 410 doesnt fit 200mm fans on top. What you see in my build is the fans that came with the h100i I used the long screws and washers, the rad and fans are seperated by the top of the case.

 
 
dannymad1 1 point 13 months ago

Oh i see. Ok thanks

 
 
dannymad1 1 point 13 months ago

I still dont get how you have done it i have inboxed you on facebook

 
 
swaggernaut 1 point 10 months ago

why did you put the top fans on he outside of the case

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 10 months ago

With my specific motherboard they wouldn't fit with the radiator on the inside.

 
 
Gooberdad [2 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

great prices. nice build.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

Thank you, it has changed quite a lot over the last year.

 
 
mingz2499 1 point 9 months ago

im working on my first gaming pc, if anyone can help me out to make it a really good one that will run 1080p games with no problem so basically stuff like black ops 2, cod ghost, gta, minecraft and record them all with no problem and a decent mouse and keyboard +webcam and the monitor should be built in audio system and i want a nice headset what i will be able to use as an advantage, i've been thinking of becoming a youtuber for ages and it's getting to christmas and my parents say i can make a custom or just buy a full gaming computer, but any help would be amazing, thanks

 
 
Maximation 1 point 9 months ago

Do you recommend a SSD?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

for a gaming machine I most definitely recommend an SSD. Samsung are typically the ones I recommend.

 
 
Maximation 1 point 9 months ago

Do you have some good arguments? Why would you recommend it for a gaming machine? And btw, I program and do adobe stuff too.. So, would it be worth it to get one?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 9 months ago

I mainly only work with high end gaming machines and it helps with load screens as well as in games such as BF4 and others where you need to respawn into the game an SSD will give you more time in the fight.

 
 
lolstab 1 point 8 months ago

Is the ASUS monitor in the specs above 60hz or 120hz?

 
 
teenmatthew 1 point 2 months ago

Why is there 2 670 boxes while you only have 1 in your comp

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 2 months ago

The build has changed a lot over the last year including having 2 GTX 670's to testing 10 different pairs of 660 Ti's as well as many many other graphics cards. After dealing with far to many Nvidia driver issues and SLI incompatibilities I down graded to a single GTX 670.

 
 
CheesyHotDogPuff 0 points 21 months ago

Just saying, you probably would want a optical drive, it's only $20 and you can use it for things like writing cd's and watching movies.

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 2 points 21 months ago

actually no. I have 4 other non gaming computers including a laptop with a dvd burner. They all have optical drives, I really don't need one nor do I want one in my gaming machine. Optical drives are becoming a thing of the past just like floppys.

I burn / write / and rip movies using another system and store them on the storage drive which is networked shared like I mentioned in my description. I transfer all files using a high capacity 3.0 USB thumb drive or via the network.

 
 
CheesyHotDogPuff 1 point 21 months ago

Point taken.

 
 
NenBen10 0 points 17 months ago

Why did you rate the CPU cooler so low?

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 17 months ago

Because I don't like the looks of big AIR CPU coolers, which is why I got the h100i which I love now.

 
 
Dead-Xilence [1 Build] 0 points 15 months ago

Hey,if you could add me on Steam and origin that would be awesome! Username; Dead-Xilence

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Might be easier to get ahold of me either on my facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/IamApropos or on skype: IamApropos

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

totally depends on the game and how I run it. I run BF3 with no AA at 1080p: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510202489038578&set=pb.329126627146166.-2207520000.1367808696.&type=3&theater

Just for a quick fps example and without the card fully maxed overclock.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

You should take some screen shots and post them as examples, I'm sure lots of people would love to see that.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

I've tested 6 different 680s including a msi lightening, they all averaged 120/130 same as the 670s. High end 670s not the ones the same size as 660 tis

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Infact some reference 680s didn't do that well.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

depends on how high you want to overclock the 3570k and compared to what?

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 0 points 14 months ago

From my understanding it'll be nearly the same with maybe the h100i being slightly better. Though anything over 4.2Ghz gives diminished returns and really doesn't provide much difference in performance to 4.5Ghz. Also Personally I think big air coolers are hideously ugly.
Some people say that the fans on the h100i are to noisy during performance compared to the silver arrow.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

I do offer two types of Build list consultations if you are interested in details please contact me via my website: http://www.iamapropos.com

 
 
IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Also if you haven't read this thread , I suggest reading through it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/369-computer-parts-and-build-consultation

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you for sharing.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

They are actually quite low for where I live and my ambient room temperature. San Antonio tends to get pretty blistering hot here and my specific chip also runs hotter than most.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

Indeed. I know from the others I've tested such as my wife's system, her chip runs quite a bit cooler than mine at the same speeds. I guess I just got one of the hotter ones. Though the temps I do have are more than acceptable. Your h110 isn't really similar being that it is a 280mm Radiator with bigger fans, it performs somewhat better. Though I left it out in the email explanation ;) I'm excited about the rumors I heard about there may be a h110i coming available.

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IamApropos [Submitter] [3 Builds] 1 point 15 months ago

sorry assumed you were the kyle that just emailed me about closed loops.

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