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Entry Level Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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CPU

Our CPU of choice for this budget is the Intel i3-6100. While it features only two cores, the 6100 also employs hyperthreading to help close the gap between it and a 4-core i5. Hyperthreading adds an additional logical core for each physical core, which is handy for streaming, video editing, and multi-tasking CPU-intensive tasks. The i3-6100 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

Motherboard

We're using a sparse selection of motherboards, which will display which is the cheapest of the four. All four motherboards feature the B150 chipset and an LGA 1151 socket for compatibility with the i3-6100. They include 4 DIMM slots for up to 64GB of DDR4 RAM. They're also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

Memory

A parametric filter is being applied to choose the best priced 2x4GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications. With this selection, we have space on the motherboards for 2 more sticks of RAM, leaving room for future expansion.

Storage

We're also using parametric filters to select the best priced SSD available that is at least 240GB. The SSD can be used for your OS and a good handful of games. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to change out capacities to fit yours. For example, if 240GB feels cramped to you, I recommend picking up a mechanical hard drive for another 1 or 2TB or storage space.

GPU

We're going with a filter for the best-priced AMD Radeon RX 470. This will run modern games at 1080p quite well. If you'd like to squeeze a little more performance out of your build for more money, you can check out the Radeon RX 480 and GeForce GTX 1060 3GB to see if their prices look appealing to you.

Case

The Deepcool TESSERACT is a mid tower case that can fit all of our components. It offers decent cable management, which can sometimes be a problem at our budget, and there's room to expand with hard drives or a solid state drive. It also has 1 USB 2.0 and 1 USB 3.0 port on the front panel. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you. There's a windowed version of the same case if you want to see your parts, and if you'd simply like a color change, there are black and red and white versions as well.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 246W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $109.99 $109.99 SuperBiiz Buy
Motherboard $59.99 $1.99 $61.98 Newegg Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
$47.99 $47.99 Directron Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 240GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
$67.88 $67.88 OutletPC Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon RX 470
$169.99 $169.99 Jet Buy
Case $34.99 $34.99 SuperBiiz Buy
Power Supply $58.51 $58.51 Jet Buy
Base Total: $549.34
Shipping: $1.99
Total: $551.33
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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anwedr 8 points 28 days ago

This is pretty budget as it gets unless you downgrade the mobo to a H110 to save a few more.

When it was the 1050 ti, people preferred to add a few more $ to the 470. Now that this includes the 470, now people want to replace it with the 480 for "a few more dollars". So from a 1050 ti to 480 is a pretty high jump.

Mind you, I'm speaking from a Canadian POV. Parts here are pricier than the US counterpart.

AS118 4 points 27 days ago

I agree with you. The line has to be drawn sometime. A 470 over a 1050 Ti is worth it imho, especially since these builds have a good enough PSU. In many countries, a 480 commands a premium over the 470, and the 470 is so close in performance to the 480 I don't feel that it's worth the extra rice in a budget build like this.

LightBlade 2 points 28 days ago

Thanks for the heads up

L0PES101 1 point 11 days ago

I basically am building this PC right now. I swapped the mobo for a gigabyte H110M-A to save a few bucks, and it provides me with everything I need. Also I didn't upgrade to the 480 because I saw some other people mention its only about a 5% power increase. I'm also in Canada, so the budget needed to stay tight.

Yecool 4 points 28 days ago

Can this beat an Xbox One or PS4?

WirelessCables 4 points 28 days ago

Yes

henrath 2 points 28 days ago

It can match a PS4 pro.

Yecool -1 points 27 days ago

Thanks. Time to show those console peasants!

XTOP -1 points 23 days ago

It beats the PS4. LOL 720p and 900p gaming peasants, 1080p glory master race.

WirelessCables 1 point 1 day ago

Someone was mad.

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720p and 900p gaming peasants

1080p, though. =-)

Console :1080p, 720p maybe

PC : 1080p, 4k, 1440p

96766 1 point 24 days ago

Exactly what I was wondering

Flowspector 1 point 6 days ago

Almost any desktop can beat a console, especially this one.

Rofineli -2 points 3 days ago

Almost any desktop can beat a console, especially this one.

I disagree.

Flowspector 1 point 2 days ago

Let me rephrase that...

A lot of desktops can beat a console, especially this one.

Rofineli 1 point 1 day ago

Agreed.

AS118 3 points 27 days ago

Excellent build! An i3 with a 470 combined with 8gb of ram and either a cheap SSD, 1TB HDD, or SSHD is a great starter gaming PC imho, and unlike the previous build, no money is spent frivolously on PSU's or cases that add to cost without much if any benefit.

Sure people can tweak parts here and here according to their wants or needs, but this much performance for $550 is VERY nice.

pumaboy94 1 point 27 days ago

Hi, I am not planning to build this right now, hopefully next year when I have money. (It will be my first ever gaming pc) I will mostly use it to play Overwatch, CSGO, LoL, and later other interesting or new games. Mostly just to play Overwatch, is this a good build for it? (I am a pc build noob) Do you recommend me to change/upgrade something? I have a 1080p HD tv, can I use it meanwhile I save for a monitor (in case I can't buy at same time with the components) Thank you

henrath 2 points 26 days ago

By as early as january of next year this could change. It gets updated often as new parts come out and prices change.

pumaboy94 1 point 26 days ago

If I'm in Canada, should I by as early as well?

jjcf89 2 points 26 days ago

He didn't mean buy it in January. He meant the build will likely change as soon as January due to new pricing and parts.

So if you're planning on purchasing the parts a year from now. Set your savings goal to about $550 and when the time comes this or a similar build will likely be around. Actually you'd need a bit more since the prices doesn't include Monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

pumaboy94 1 point 25 days ago

I see (misread) thank you so much. This may be too obvious or maybe not but, This doesn't include taxes right? So at the end I will end paying a bit more? Kinda frustrated when looking in YT saying build for $$$ but The tax and windows and peripherals are not considered. :/ Note: In my case I have gaming mouse and keyboard and 24'' 1080p 60hz HD tv, would it be fine for gaming while I save for a monitor? I'll just play hardcore Overwatch and "casually" LoL, CSGO and other games. Thanks in advance

BFJ_Tech 2 points 14 days ago

This gaming build would definitely run all the games you listed at very high frames, and could run Overwatch easily at 60fps at high settings. But, if you ever plan on playing games like Battlefield 1 and other heavy games, you could run into some problems there.

Rob_The_Flob 2 points 13 days ago

The RX 470 can easily handle Battlefield 1, the slight bottleneck of the i3 may affect it but even cards like the 1050 Ti can get decent frame rates at moderate 1080p settings.

AS118 1 point 25 days ago

I I agree with others. If you want to build next year, I'd say just save up and see what people recommend then. If you wait long enough, AMD Zen Processors will be out and will probably be game changers in terms of price/performance.

A brand new entry-level gaming build should be available to reference on PCPartpicker, and things will have changed by then.

pumaboy94 2 points 25 days ago

I see, thanks. If everything goes nice, I could afford it by April, maybe. Hopefully. :p

Flowspector 1 point 6 days ago

If you are planning on playing csgo, I would definitely upgrade the CPU, whether that be now or later. I just suggest doing it lol.

jj1marksman 1 point 4 days ago

CS:GO Could run on this with absolutely no problem. Ultra at higher than 60? No Problem. No need to upgrade unless you plan on playing anything actually demanding ie... Crysis, Battlefield, arma, and other games that actually tax the cpu.

Rob_The_Flob 0 points 13 days ago

If you just plan on playing Overwatch you can downgrade the video card to a 1050 Ti and still get good performance for your needs while saving money.

WirelessCables 1 point 1 day ago

The RX 470 gives much more performance compared to the 1050Ti, for only ~$20 more. There's no point in getting a 1050Ti unless your budget was super strict.

miguel497 3 points 25 days ago

I'd seriously recommend adding a 1TB HDD to the build. AAA Games nowadays weigh around 20-50GiB. Everything else is great.

tavobenz 1 point 24 days ago

You are talking about the sandisk ssd plus 240gb part from this build correct? If so, would there be a specific one that you would recommend that would be compatible with this build? I am building my first PC. I just dont know what brands to trust and dont want to get something that will not be compatible.

allur4 1 Build 1 point 23 days ago

Literally any HDD that uses Sata connections will be compatible. I would recommend this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex

Nighterlev 1 point 21 days ago

+tavobenz https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gndM8 I'd recommend getting this build I just made off of PCPartpicker alone. It's much better, cost $10 less, and is more powerful over-all (In games, the G4400 and i3-6100 have little to no differences. Now if you plan to do heavy rendering, video editting/encoding, etc etc..things that require tons of CPU power, then yes, the 6100 will be the better choice.

526christian 1 point 19 days ago

In games, the G4400 and i3-6100 have little to no differences

When GPU bound, perhaps. The i3's hyperthreading alone can be a substantial benefit when CPU bound. Add to that a higher clockspeed...

The only things that build brings to the table is better upgradeability with that motherboard and a slightly better GPU at the frequent cost of framerates and stability along with a downgraded PSU.

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

You see almost identical frame rates in most games between the 2. That said, I would still recommend an i3.

Cicero_ 2 points 17 days ago

Similar framrates, sure. But one thing to consider is that the pentium has considerably worse frame times.

Nighterlev 0 points 14 days ago

When the G4400 and Intel i3 have the same exact type of GPU (one that doesn't bottleneck each other) they have pretty much the exact same performance.

I've already looked up videos between the G4400 and the Intel i3 processor this guy has. Both showed little to no differences at all. In fact, at most times, the FPS was 1-2fps better on the i3 but at most times that quickly went down back to how it was originally.

And yes, in those gameplay comparison videos, hyper-threading was enabled.

526christian 2 points 14 days ago

they have pretty much the exact same performance... Both showed little to no differences at all. In fact, at most times, the FPS was 1-2fps better on the i3 but at most times that quickly went down back to how it was originally.

... When the GPU is the bottleneck. Of course they will show no real difference when the i3 isn't getting the chance to. If you looked at the links in my first comment then you'd be able to see what the i3's HT alone can bring for framerates when it's less restrained.

Rob_The_Flob 1 point 13 days ago

Go with something cheap from Western Digital.

Volhosis 2 points 28 days ago

What monitor and peripherals are best with this build?

henrath 3 points 26 days ago

For a monitor get this one for the smoothest gaming as it has a 75Hz refresh rate and freesync. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/W3yxFT/viewsonic-monitor-vx2457mhd

MightyMushroom 2 points 20 days ago

for mouse and keyboard, dont spend to much, just go for some cheap ones you have laying around, i used the packaged mouse and keyboard from my prebuilt for a good 3 months before upgrading when i first got into pc gaming

bnieves 2 points 19 days ago

Nice build. This guide is helping me with mine. any advice with it would be really helpful. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bnieves/saved/6TQdCJ

MattWeiler 1 Build 3 points 14 days ago

I would definitely add a SSD to your build.

Having a HDD is great for storage, but putting your OS on a SSD is a must these days. It's the difference between booting into Windows in less-than 10 seconds or booting into Windows in over 30 seconds. Also, the overall speed of the system is much higher and more responsive.

bnieves 2 points 14 days ago

Thanks for advice man. What I may do is get a mechanical hard drive later

MattWeiler 1 Build 2 points 14 days ago

Looks like a solid build, it'd be nice to put another 8GB of ram in there one day :)

From my own experience, 120GB of storage space can fill-up pretty quickly :( If it's financially doable, I'd go with at least 256GB. I upgraded my PCs to have 500GB SSDs; that seems to be perfect for my needs :)

But it all depends on what you're doing with your PC. A clean install of Windows 10 takes around 20GB. If you play games, they can be quite large too.

kurtsnafu 2 points 4 days ago

With the G4560 being released, this deserves a revision, in my opinion. You should be able to shave off about 30$ by getting the G4560 and a B250m motherboard instead.

sirabdude 1 point 2 days ago

I think you could even fit in a G4600 and an H270 mobo in at this price

aether_tech 1 Build 1 point 29 days ago

Comments:

  1. Replace Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H with Asus H110M-/M.2

  2. Replace 2x4GB Kingston with 1x8GB (Avexir or Curical at $40-41)

  3. Replace the 470 with the 480 $10-20 more, with substantial performance increase. Newegg has the PowerColor Red Dragon RX480 for $169! (After rebate) that's the same price as the RX470 used in this list currently!

henrath 3 points 29 days ago

The 480 is only around 5% faster and the MSI one has a $20 rebate and most likely runs quieter too .

AS118 1 point 27 days ago

I personally never count on MIR's, but you're right, the 480's not that much faster. I have a 480, but the more I use it, the more I realize that a 470 would have done me fine. This isn't like the difference between a 1050 or Ti vs. a 470, which is massive.

allur4 1 Build 0 points 23 days ago

I don't count on MiRs either, but the powercolor 480 is significantly slower than the best options. The best RX 480s(tbh these are the best for most gpus) are the gigabyte G1(NOT THE WINDFORCE), the MSI gaming(NOT THE ARMOR), and the sapphire nitro(NOT THE BLOWER FFS).

henrath 1 point 22 days ago

Both Gigabyte cards have the same design and needs a new BIOS to work properly. The windforce is just lower clocked. If you're basing the GPUs just by their clock speed which is not as important as good cooling.

allur4 1 Build 1 point 22 days ago

gpu.userbenchmark.com

You can see each specific gpu and which brands perform better if you click on a specific one

okthatscool 1 point 26 days ago

Say I buy all the parts and want to build this pc where could i see how to build it

mrthrowback 2 points 24 days ago

YouTube

DankFlakes 1 point 25 days ago

So it doesn't need a CPU cooler?

sookie_173 3 points 25 days ago

The processor comes with a CPU cooler that has thermal compound applied on it.

DankFlakes 1 point 24 days ago

Thank you! :-)

DankFlakes 1 point 24 days ago

Does the Motherboard have wifi?

fearthez 2 points 22 days ago

No, purchase a PCI Expess WiFi card for best results

sookie_173 2 points 22 days ago

If you can, just use Ethernet.

Mspc123 1 Build 1 point 22 days ago

I have bought a seperate thermal compound already. I believe my besr bet would be to get the preapplied off, apply the new paste. Or should i just use the preapplied.

sookie_173 1 point 21 days ago

Use the separate thermal compound.

Mspc123 1 Build 1 point 21 days ago

Thanks

Nighterlev 1 point 21 days ago

There is no pre-applied thermal compound. The thermal compound comes in it's own little packet that you have to apply.
So you could just as easily as throw it away and apply your better thermal compound.

wawam 1 point 25 days ago

What games can this handle?

526christian 2 points 24 days ago

It should handle any game out there, merely with varying degrees of how well. You can play many AAA games in 1080p with very high / ultra graphics settings playably with the RX 470.

NiGHT_Nuclear 1 point 25 days ago

my build is 530 and it has a i5, tbh I don't care about the case or a SSD, I think a SSD should only be purchased if you have the spare cash PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor £171.38 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £39.99 @ Ebuyer
Memory G.Skill NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory £33.93 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £44.46 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card £175.98 @ Aria PC
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case £29.99 @ Aria PC
Power Supply EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply £34.79 @ Aria PC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £530.52
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-24 13:57 GMT+0000
shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

You say that because you don't own an SSD. There's no going back once you purchase your first one ;)

NiGHT_Nuclear 1 point 16 days ago

meh, a HDD is good for me, its all about playing the games for that build then again I could buy a 2nd hand SSD or 2nd Hand parts which can save a lot

Buzzyboyish 1 point 15 days ago

I can vouch, once I got the Samsung 850 EVO 240gb, I hated gaming on my western digital blue 500 GB HDD. Load times are significantly faster on SSDs. I know the 850 isn't top tier, but loading times are still amazing. (albeit on a linux-book, so load times are slightly faster anyways)

allur4 1 Build 1 point 23 days ago

That's 530 euros. idk the rates but I think yours is more expensive. This is a fantastic build, although I would recommend getting a stronger i5.

Caboose77 1 point 24 days ago

I really love that I found this cause I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, I just don't want to spend a lot. So thank u.

allur4 1 Build 1 point 23 days ago

You could also ask the community. A lot of us love to help and there are forums on the site. Good luck!

Nighterlev 0 points 21 days ago

Yeh you could. I managed to build a even better build then this one. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gndM8 Instead of a RX 470 it has a GTX 1060 3GB so yea, it's quite a lot better over-all.

Wutevah 1 point 24 days ago

corsair VS450 is way cheaper what is the obsession with the " 80+ bronze/gold Certification" kindly explain

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 23 days ago

It's more about having been reviewed as good quality than the efficiency certification. These days, however, if a PSU is any good, it generally has an 80+ Bronze rating or higher, too.

allur4 1 Build 1 point 23 days ago

Fractal Design is a better PSU company than Corsair, and 80+ is very important. 80+ means 80% efficiency. Bronze means 85. Gold is 90 I believe. It's just certification that your PSU will give you the power you need

IwannaPC 8 Builds 2 points 23 days ago

Fractal Design is a better PSU company than Corsair

u wot? Neither of them make their own power supplies, OEMs (such as Seasonic, Super Flower, Andyson, HEC, etc.) make them and brand them as Corsair, Fractal Design, EVGA, etc.

80+ is very important

Sure. 80+ certifications are nice to have, but aren't the indicator of a good PSU. Look at the Antec VP450; no 80+ cert. but still an okay budget power supply. Then there's this HardOCP article that would be a good read.

It's just certification that your PSU will give you the power you need

80 Plus certifications are for power supplies of varying levels of power efficiency, not that it can provide the power you need or that higher 80+ cert means it can provide more power.

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

If a PSU is any good, it has good quality components inside. Crap quality components can have a good efficiency rating, that doesn't mean they have longevity or reliability.

Kevstun 1 point 24 days ago

I have a gtx 960 will that fit in this computer

ZaubieHunter23 1 point 23 days ago

Yes, of course!

DankFlakes 1 point 23 days ago

2 questions 1- Does the mobo have wifi? 2- Can I replace the storage with a Western 1TB?

allur4 1 Build 2 points 23 days ago

It doesn't have wifi. Not only could you replace it, but I would also recommend it

DankFlakes 1 point 23 days ago

Can you recommend a mobo that does have wifi?

allur4 1 Build 3 points 22 days ago

You're looking at $160 unless you want to get a mini-itx board, so I would recommend just getting a separate wifi card, as they only run about $20

akyriakidis12 1 point 23 days ago

Hi there,

I'm super new and have no idea how this all works, but my assumption is that im also going to need to buy windows 10 to run on the computer? Will it come with a disk drive to install it? If not how do i go about installing?

Thanks

allur4 1 Build 2 points 22 days ago

If you don't get an optical drive, you can buy a portable one and return it when you're done with it, or you can use another computer to copy the .iso file onto a usb drive and plug the usb into your computer.

HamsterianPig 1 point 22 days ago

just bought the CPU, gonna build this :D

kishizu 1 point 22 days ago

Anyone have advice to the following error: We built this system but when right clicking on the desktop to access the graphics we get the following error message: "Radeon Settings are currently not available. Plase try again after connecting a dsiplay to AMD graphics and extending the display." We have an ACER monitor with AMD Freesynch. Any ideas? did we misinstall the graphics card?

allur4 1 Build 1 point 22 days ago

Connect the monitor directly to the gpu instead of the mobo. If you're still having problems, try reinstalling the drivers.

mil3sdoncast3r 1 point 22 days ago

Hey, I am finally making the leap from mac gaming to pc gaming (thank god!) and was wondering if this could run games like Overwatch and H1Z1 at a reasonable fps? I will happily play at medium settings for example, to achieve fps' upwards of 60. If not, are there any parts on this list that should be upgraded to get this? I could probably push my budget to around £500 but £550 might be a bit excessive. Also, as I said, this is my first proper experience of PC gaming so am not looking for anything major. TIA

allur4 1 Build 2 points 22 days ago

idk about H1Z1 but this would easily get 60+ fps. The i3 will probably be your limiting factor, but not by much because the i3 is really strong. The 470 is about 40% more powerful than the 460, which, when it is the limiting factor, still achieves 60+ fps in Overwatch

mil3sdoncast3r 1 point 22 days ago

Thanks for the quick response! So you think it may be best if I leave it how it is and go ahead and start buying the parts?

Nighterlev 0 points 21 days ago

I'd recommend getting this build instead https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gndM8 It's so much better, cost $10 less, and is virtually the same exact build (For gaming, the G4400 and the i3-6100 have little to no differences, as to why I chose a Z170 motherboard is simply because of 1. Over-clocking. B. Future proofing. C. Lower latency between the RAM, CPU, HDD, and GPU over-all. D. A way better designed BIOS screen that is pretty easy to learn. E. It's just better in general and will last you a long, long time, even if you plan to upgrade, it'll be ready up to go.

btw considering your new to PC gaming, you do know how to install Operating systems right? If you plan to install it from a disc, I'd recommend adding in a simple basic disc drive. If from a USB, it should work fine with that to as long as you know how to do it.

SuperGojira2001 3 Builds 1 point 19 days ago

the G4400 and the i3-6100 have little to no differences

wat

Also you can't overclock a G4400 or i3...

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

BCLK OC. You can overclock literally any Skylake processor if you have a Z170 motherboard and the proper bios.

Nighterlev 0 points 14 days ago

You can over-clock them with certain types of hardware sooo...yeah. Z170 motherboards allow over-clocking m8

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

Compare Ashes of the Singularity on those 2 CPUs and you may rethink your position.

In games that don't put much load on the CPU, absolutely, they're near the same. But in games that DO rely on the CPU...you're looking at a 25% difference in frame rate. The price difference between your build and the same build with an i3 is only 9%. Gotta keep in mind that your ENTIRE system is needed to play games, so you can't just figure "This CPU/GPU costs twice as much and doesn't give me double performance!" because that's just ignoring the fact that you can't game with just a CPU or GPU, you need the whole system. When you factor in a 9% system cost increase that gives you much more performance increase than that...it's a pretty damn good deal.

BinceVince 1 point 21 days ago

What type of games can this run?

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

All of them. Age of the game will determine how pretty you can make the graphics.

spenmemes 1 point 21 days ago

Could this build run overwatch or games like it with relative ease?

Nighterlev -1 points 21 days ago

Yes. But I'd recommend getting this build instead https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gndM8

rnarkus 1 point 12 days ago

why do you say that?

CrispyCram 1 point 19 days ago

I really like the build, almost identical to what I personally had. However, as much as I want to pull the trigger, the mobo is holding me back. I don't ask much, just a quick rundown on what I need to look for or what anybody who sees this is willing to tell me. I'm mostly worried about the fact that it's a b150 chipset, not because I know anything about this chipset, but because I don't. Is it superior to an H110? Will it fully provide for this build? And I plan on putting in another fan to help ventilation, seeing as the case only comes with 1. Sorry to bug, but I'm just worried since this will be my first build and from my pov, a rather expensive one.

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

B150 is better than H110. H110 has PCIe 2.0 instead of 3.0(which doesn't really hinder GPU performance, especially lower end) and is a slower chipset(again, probably not something you will notice), it also has fewer SATA ports and supports fewer USB ports and has fewer chipset PCIe lanes(which means you can add fewer expansion cards like capture cards, WiFi cards, sound cards, etc.).

Either chipset will do fine with this build(or any build that doesn't require overclocking or RAID). If you need/want more USB ports and SATA ports, go with a B150.

This article does a fairly good job at simplifying the differences between 1xx series Intel Chipsets. https://rog.asus.com/articles/maximus-motherboards/whats-the-difference-between-z170-h170-b150-and-h110-chipset-motherboards/

Wzards 1 point 18 days ago

How well would this PC run BF1 at medium/high settings?

Damienle 1 point 18 days ago

How much frames would this pc run on Csgo max settings?

Vernon682 1 point 17 days ago

So this will get 30 fps 1080p on most games? Is it easy to put together? How much tax will be on the parts?

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

Tax depends on where you purchase your items from. Most online retailers don't charge tax, but if you buy in a store you can factor in your local tax rate.

Assembling a PC doesn't take a ton of skill or require you to be a PC expert, but it does require patience and a little bit of knowledge that can easily be obtained by watching YouTube videos. How difficult your build will be depends largely on the case you choose and whether or not you have a modular power supply.

As for performance, I think this will get 30+ FPS in ALL games if you adjust graphics settings(and even 60 FPS in some cases depending on how old the game is and where you have the graphics settings). You won't be able to run everything on highest settings, but I think it's safe to say you will get better visuals and performance than a PS4 Pro.

allur4 1 Build 1 point 17 days ago

This will easily get 60+fps in eSports games and it could potentially get that mark in some AAA titles. You underrate the 470 or the i3, not sure which, but the i3's HT makes a big difference, where the i7's doesn't so much, in terms of gaming. The 470 is only 5-10% slower than the 480 which is the "budget VR card." The 470 is literally the "1080p gaming card," designed to get 60+fps on high/ultra settings at 1080p on almost all games. There could be a bottleneck from the cpu in some games, but it's unlikely, as even in games like Ashes of the Singularity, which is very cpu intensive while still requiring some graphics firepower, the i3 is only about 2-5% slower in DX12, and 20-30% slower in DX11 compared to the mighty i7-6700k.

Source: https://youtu.be/4Jc_2EQb658?t=366

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 16 days ago

Should probably check the builds people have before trying to lecture them lol. I know exactly, first hand, what an i3 6100 can do. You do not get a solid, V-sync locked 60 FPS at all times on new games on ultra settings. I consider minimums, dips, everything. If you say something gets 60 FPS, I better not see a single dip below 60 otherwise it's not an accurate statement. I say things like 30+ because it's realistic, you will ALWAYS be above 30, but you will run into scenarios where max settings will get you mid 50s, and even dips into the 40s.

That being said, all of that is playable and frame timing makes it look smooth. I just try to give people realistic expectations so when they do a build and load up BF1 or something and see dips in the actual FPS they don't feel lied to.

Vernon682 1 point 16 days ago

Will it get 1080 60fps on killing floor 2, fallout 2 and payday 2? Those are the big that I play on console, and 1 probably will die in a few months, and the others supported worth nuts. Fallout 2 is something that I really want to play one day due to my love for the new ones.

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 2 points 16 days ago

Definitely. There aren't really any games that wouldn't be playable on this system, just don't go in hoping for maxed out settings on every new game at 60 FPS. Everything will look nice and run smoothly though.

Vernon682 1 point 15 days ago

As someone not accustom to 4k, I'm likely going to be sticking with 1080, so I'd imagine I can crank the textures on most games reasonably high.

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 2 points 15 days ago

Yeah, and you'll find that you don't even really notice when you're not hitting 60 fps. As long as the pacing is correct I can hardly tell any difference between anything in the 50-70 fps range. If you're not dead set on locking at 60 in every game crank all the settings up, almost everything is still playable.

Wigiman9702 1 point 13 days ago

I am a PC noob and Idk anything about PCs. I would like a PC (to play CSGO, Overwatch, and Minecraft. Jk no Minecraft.) under 700 bucks, in the budget I would like to include a monitor. Along with a good pair of headphones, if possible. (Mouse/Keyboard are covered) CSGO and Overwatch are the games that will be the most tolling on the PC (Is that the right word?) Would this be a good build?

If I do buy this what monitor is suggested?

I noticed he said "The i3-6100 includes a stock cooler, so 3rd-party cooler is necessary."

Why is there no 3rd party cooler included? And if I need one that needs to be included. Or would it be best for a whole different build?

Thank you, -A PC NOOB

Would this be a good cooler?

https://www.rei.com/product/874210/yeti-tundra-45-cooler

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 13 days ago

Apologies in advance for the long reply lol.

That must have been a typo, "not necessary" is what they meant. You get a CPU cooler with it and it's good enough for this CPU. If you're not happy with the temperatures out of the box, you can also adjust the fan speeds to run faster at certain temperatures. Information on how to do this is easy to find on YouTube if you end up wanting to.

If you're not planning on building immediately and are interested in saving 50 bucks, wait for the Pentium G4560 to be released and reviewed(couple weeks I'd guess). The soon to be released Kaby Lake Pentium processors have Hyper Threading which basically allows each CPU core to do more work in less time(Skylake Pentiums didn't have this, but the i3 6100 does), so it appears that the main difference between the G4560 and i3 6100 is a 200MHz clock speed. In game, that translates to no noticeable difference. If the tests and reviews show the 1-3 FPS difference that I expect, then I'd recommend the Pentium all day for budget builds.

If you want good headphones, the Logitech G230 are fantastic and usually you can find them for 30 bucks. I wear glasses and my ears stick out, but I can wear these for HOURS. If you want surround headphones(they're all just virtual surround) pair those headphones with a $10-20 USB virtual surround card. If you can find the G430 on sale for under 50 bucks, those are also good because they're just a different color G230 with an included USB sound card.

As for performance, this build would play those games amazingly, and also any new game on high settings with more than acceptable performance. For the new games, there will be dips in frame rates, but nothing super noticeable or game breaking(consoles do it too, and often worse).

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 13 days ago

I expect to see the i3 replaced with a Pentium G4560 once it's released. Theoretically only 5% slower, but costs 45% less. That's right, Pentiums are getting Hyper Threading! And with an MSRP of $64, Intel is taking a shot at the budget market as well with this refresh.

http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz

rnarkus 1 point 12 days ago

First time building, have a low budget. Could I upgrade parts later as needed for better performance? Or do I have to start fresh?

I'm a noob, I know. Coming from the console world

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 10 days ago

The motherboard that this build includes is compatible with a wide range of Intel processors all the way up to the new i7 7700K* and will be compatible with all desktop graphics cards for the foreseeable future. There will also be 2 empty slots for additional RAM, and you can even add additional hard drives if/when you need more space.

As is, this build has a lot of potential and future upgrades could result in you having it for quite a few years. It's as simple as buying more RAM and putting it in, or removing the old video card and putting in a new one, same for processor. For now though, if you've got an extra 50 bucks to spend while building, I'd suggest getting a 1TB hard drive to go along with it, the SSD will get filled up fast with games.

*New Kaby Lake processors(anything with a model starting with 7) will require a BIOS update on the motherboard. This is easy to do and won't be necessary with Skylake processors(6xxx), it's just something to know for future reference.

mcdoge 1 point 12 days ago

Hey, one question, is it neccesary to purchase any other coolers for cpu or the case???

Alsan92 1 point 11 days ago

Hi peopple! I am thinking about use this as a guide to build, but I have a cupple questions:

1º I am thinking in change the XFX RX 470 4G for a MSI Radeon 470 8g, because the difference is just 50€ here in Germany, is this a good idea?

2º I am not sure about get 8 gb DDR4 or 16 gb DDR3. What will be the best option?

Thanks for the help!

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 10 days ago

The 8GB version of the 470 provides such little performance increase that I wouldn't recommend paying extra money for it. If you want better than a 4GB 470 I would recommend just getting a 6GB 1060, or if you play games that are known to run better on AMD hardware, an RX480.

8GB of DDR4 is enough for gaming. I feel that it would be better to get 8GB of faster RAM now and add more later if you want than to spend less on 16GB of slower RAM now.

Damienle 1 point 11 days ago

How many fps will this run on Csgo?

m.alhakeem 1 point 10 days ago

Is it worth getting rid of the SSD and instead opting out for and i5 6400 instead of the i3? I feel like the i3 would bottleneck the performance for same games...

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 1 point 10 days ago

If you do that, get a 7400 instead. Non K Kaby Lake are a few hundred MHz faster than Skylake for the same price. I've got a system with a 6100 and one with a 6600, unless you play CPU intensive games exclusively the i3 does a good job of keeping up with a GTX 1070(even at 5864x1080).

I do understand why many people would want the peace of mind of an i5. The 7400 is basically the same performance as a 6500 for 20 bucks less.

rubendrg 1 point 10 days ago

can this pc play at high or mid graphics : Black ops 2 , Call of Duty: Black Ops III ,Battlefield: Hardline , skyrim , gta V / IV,metro last light , far cry 4. cs g,o, ?new games,etc..

BabaBooey503 1 point 7 days ago

I'm new to the whole pc thing and I don't have one yet so would this one be a good gaming pc?

ChristianK17 1 point 5 days ago

Is this compatible with a GTX 660? I have a very old build with that card, and want to upgrade to something that can run 64 bit windows but could save a lot of money if I could keep my old GPU for now.

tanzeh 1 point 4 days ago

I am trying to get in the pc gaming scene. ive been on console for a while and I want to see what pc has to offer. Does anyone have any suggestions on any tweaks to this build to make it a bit better for little to no more money

akyriakidis12 1 point 3 days ago

can anyone help, iv built this pc and turned it on, the fans run but no system boot comes on my monitor, the fans just keep stopping and starting

raventothepowerofpi 1 point 3 days ago

I just thought up the perfect way to make a 480 pc for about 500, does use a pentium but is still hypertheaded do its good

JCovington 1 point 3 days ago

I've been playing on a 2012 laptop for a while, so I've kind of been under a rock about this stuff. Can this run games like Fallout 4 or Overwatch with good quality and framerates?

sirabdude 1 point 2 days ago

This is what I personally came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/sirabdude/saved/dBndCJ

I decided to spend a little more on chipset and more ram (I'm a tab monster) and a little less on the GPU, but the GPU could easily be swapped for a 470 for a few extra pennies.

Personally 240GB is way too small, so I sacrificed some speed and went for a 1TB HDD.

I think the ideal ~$500 build is some blend of this build and mine

YooItzMark 1 point 1 day ago

Very nice build but would it be able to play a game like H1Z1 and also stream off obs at the same time?

Patriots_fan 1 point 1 day ago

Can this run h1z1 smoothly? Always been a console gamer new to the PC world

NadroJ123 1 point 11 hours ago

Wow, this guy is rocking 240gb

ShirazEpic -8 points 22 days ago

This is good for if you're on a tight budget, but If your budget is $1000+ its garbage

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor 6W - 51W
Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 15W - 60W
Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 5W - 5W
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card 30W - 120W
Total: 58W - 246W