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Forum Topic "Trying to get ideas for keyboard and mouse."

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 1 day ago

Uhh, you misunderstood what I meant... I don't want a mechanical not because it is the only one with high up keys, but all mechs do have high up keys. Like I said, I want a low profile keyboard, and those ones also have high keys and are not low profile.

Forum Topic "Trying to get ideas for keyboard and mouse."

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 1 day ago

As for the keyboard, there isn't really any point in going with a high end membrane when there are mech options like the G.Skill Ripjaws KM570 Qisan Magicforce and Ripjaws KM780R which are priced similarly to the G213

Both the G.Skill ones are priced similarly to the the Apex 350, $20 more then the G213, and the other one is cheaper by about $30(and lacks some things I want). And the Ripjaws 780's price for RGB disagrees with what I want, and none of their other colors fit my build... And the reason I plan to get a high end membrane is because I want the low profile keys, which I can't find with all the other specifications I want for cheaper. I "could" get a mechanical, but I don't "want" a mechanical, keys are too high for me, personally.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 2 points 1 day ago

Most people fill a 1TB drive pretty quickly and having all of that storage in an SSD at this price range is overkill. (Not the best dollar for dollar expenditure.)

I thought 1 TB at this current point in time was the storage amount that most people are perfectly fine with, not filling it up too quick... And if they need more storage, they can add more later pretty cheaply with an HDD.

Besides, its always better to have your OS on a completely separate drive for failure security. Partitions are only so good. While the 480gb ssd would get MOST of the important things on it, the HDD would be great for non-essentials and less speed needy items. 3TB might have been a little overkill but the 2-3TB HDD's are kind of the sweet spot for pricing right now. 2TB versions were down around $50 during Christmas. Agree to disagree... its cool.

This is indeed true, I won't say that it isn't.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 1 day ago

Get the cheapest 2400MHz or faster RAM you can find that fits your aesthetic. You will literally never notice the difference in speed from 2400MHz to 3200MHz. Latency is actually far more important than speed anyways. If you're not sure about latency vs. speed do some research on what makes some memory "faster" than others.

Probably true, but I also said it would be a not very big difference between speeds.

Both of his monitor recommendations look decent but you will want to research the difference between 1080p vs 1440p and decide which is right for you. For me, I would rather have 1440p at 60Hz than 1080 at 144 mostly because I prefer larger screen sizes to higher refresh rates. To me, the price of 144Hz refresh rate does not justify lower resolutions. For games specifically its fine but for normal computer use I like the higher resolutions, particularly on larger screen sizes. If you're definitely going with a 24" or smaller screen, then 1080p will probably be fine.

Read a bit better, at the time for the price he wanted to spend on a monitor I couldn't find a 1440p 60HZ one.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 1 day ago

I said about the cheaper air cooler for money saving reasons, and I even said it'll perform worse, as well as the choice not being inherently bad, just more expensive. Can also always upgrade later.

I was saying to get just an SSD, skipping out on HDD. An M.2 SSD would also be a good idea, but again the choice here isn't inherently bad, I just think a single about 1 TB SSD would be better then a 480 GB SSD and 3 TB HDD.

The PSU I said about was the G2, costing $40 more and is fully modular.

Faster ram is probably pointless, and the case is fine, I just said those would be "personal" changes that I'd probably do, maybe not in the case part but that's cause I'd research what I think would be the best case for me.

Forum Topic "Best Keyboard under $100"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 2 days ago

Not that I am aware of.

Forum Topic "Best Keyboard under $100"

AnyOtherWay 2 points 2 days ago

The question is not whether I think it is worth it, it's whether you think it's worth it.

BigBoyMarky's Completed Build: Meet my new Waifu

AnyOtherWay 1 point 2 days ago

In this case it just about literally is "no waifu, no laifu".

Is beautiful, is quality, is greatness.

Forum Topic "Best Keyboard under $100"

AnyOtherWay 2 points 2 days ago

All will be quite good keyboards, it just depends on whether the increase in price is worth it for you on the Strafe/Ripjaw. Their all quite a bit different, but all somewhat the same, being mechanical and keyboards. I'd not go with the Strafe, because it doesn't have any macro keys unlike the other two, though.

Forum Topic "Trying to get ideas for keyboard and mouse."

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 2 days ago

Oh wait, I forgot I wanted to ask about the "increasing of keyboard budget" part of your comment... Why should I? I can afford the Apex 350's $90 price tag, and I don't feel like there'd be any better keyboard for me, I'd just sort of think it'd be nice to be able to spend less then $90 on a keyboard... Really, if I put my budget elsewhere, peripheal wise at least, it'd be for the headset... Which I also recently changed from a Samson SR950 and ModMic 4.0 to a Corsair Void to save $40 or so there, but that's not too important. So I just don't understand the "increasing budget for keyboard" part of your comment.

Forum Topic "Trying to get ideas for keyboard and mouse."

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 2 days ago

Is this the mouse you're talking about? If so, it's a similar price to the Sabre, only $5 less, and review wise doesn't seem too great... So Sabre still seems like my current choice.

Forum Topic "Trying to get ideas for keyboard and mouse."

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 2 days ago

The Logitech G213 Prodigy, they have a Logitech G213 / G403 Prodigy kit at my local costco, my only beef w/ it - it's not a mech board it's "Mech-Dome" (aka mechanical-similar, mecha-membrane, mechanical-feel, etc.) where it's a scissor-switch on top of a plain-old rubber dome. Since they have it on display got to give it a try, It actually does not feel so bad - however with all the true-mech clone boards for only slightly more $, it's well spent on the real deal IMHO. The Redragon YAMA is a good budget pick IMHO

I mentioned it being easy to find keyboards that fit most of what I want, I mainly wanted keyboard suggestions for low profile keys, similar to a laptop.

As far as mice, check out the G403 - same awesome sensor as the g502 with a more deathadder-ish shape (great for palm-grip) and it is $5 cheaper on amazon at the moment.

I already knew of the G403, but I want some more buttons, especially with that price.

The sabre, I don't have any experience but it looks promising - noticed there are 2 flavors out, a laser w/ 10k dpi and optical with ~6k dpi, I would go for the optical one, it has favorable reviews and looks good for a palm grip.

Pretty sure there's also this 10K DPI optical sensor that was my plan with the Sabre, any link to those others? Don't recall ever noticing them.

There is also a budget version, the Corsair Harpoon RGB for $27, 6k dpi sensor (could not find any details on it yet), looks very comfortable for a palm grip. Could be a contender if you are looking to shave a few $

I noticed it already a couple days ago, seems pretty good, but I'd like more buttons and I'm fine with spending $40 or so.

Forum Topic "Best Keyboard under $100"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 3 days ago

I currently have the Redragon Yama saved as a link on my browser, actually. Personally, I wouldn't go with any of the other choices though. The individual volume keys are too important for me, and besides that the Yama also has 12 macro's and 3 profiles for said macro's, which is quite a bit.

Forum Topic "I swear, i never, ever in the history of my life think that i would ever ask this question"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 3 days ago

My brother actually has that Thermaltake you're thinking about, except the non RGB version. It's not too bad, I'd say, but I don't personally like typing on it, which is probably just due to me using a laptop currently, which has far lower down keys... Not a bad choice, just not a choice for me. However, I'm not sure how Thermaltake's other products are, and I don't even know if they sell webcams or mousepads... Personally, the only company's I can think of that sell just about all of those peripheals you mentioned are Razer, Logitech, Corsair, and Steelseries, and Razer I don't believe sell webcams and I also don't personally like Razer to much, who's keyboards also lack the multimedia keys, Logitech I don't remember ever noticing a mousepad by them, Corsair I don't believe have a webcam, and Steelseries don't sell mousepads and webcams, I believe... So getting all the products from the same manufacturer might not be too easy. The closest would be Corsair/Logitech, so perhaps mix and match? I don't know...

However, for a keyboard alone with all the features you want(except maybe one of the multimedia, which if not it should be able to set them with a macro since it has 22 of them), is the Steelseries Apex 350. 22 macris with 4 profiles, most/all the multimedia you want, and personally I plan to go with it. You can also get a mouse like their Rival 100/300/500/700 I believe are the numbers, and a headset like the Arctis 3/5/7, to go with the wanting of products from same manufacturer.

Forum Topic "no gimmicks no need for rgb cherry mx blues keyboard (no F*cks given about rgb)"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 3 days ago

Just making sure, is this the keyboard your considering? If so, it looks not too bad, I guess. Not really something I'd use, I'd prefer lights and a volume control key, but it doesn't look bad. However, you don't mind me recommending one(which is mainly because I plan to go with it myself...), do you? The Steelseries Apex 350. Low down keys, 22 macro's with 4 profiles, a couple media keys, most importantly to me the volume keys, a larger spacebar, and two extra arrow keys for some extra directional capability or something.

Although I'm not sure how others would feel about it, and some of those features could be seen as unneeded features, I personally think it to be a great keyboard from how it seems.

Forum Topic "Good speakers £50"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 6 days ago

How do these look? I learned of these because of a review from a site I like, and personally plan to go with them if I get some speakers. Their about the price you want to spend, look cool, and seem to perform nicely.

lappel's Completed Build: First Red Build - Z170X & R9 Fury

AnyOtherWay 1 point 7 days ago

Pictures look nice, what camera did you use? And the setting of most of the pictures being on the roof gives a unique charm to the pictures, and the build itself is beautiful, mostly black and white with some red on the motherboard, as well as red lights, and overall is just plain clean. +1 for this beauty, that'll perform quite well.

Soulwraith's Completed Build: Currently Unnamed

AnyOtherWay 2 points 7 days ago

Zoro and the Elric brothers wallpapers? Very nice. A really good build as well. Mayhaps you could name it... I don't know, been thinking on what to say for far to long. Phantom of the Opera, because of the NZXT Phantom 240? I just can't think of more...

YouTubear's Completed Build: Pixel

AnyOtherWay 2 points 7 days ago

I like this build, very pretty. The people complaining about the A10 and how you could of done better should of checked out the build you said this was a successor to, Eclipse, and realize that you already had the A10. Although it does bring up the question of why you changed the motherboard, the ram, and removed the two 1 TB Barracuda's...

LBrown's Completed Build: Black & Blue

AnyOtherWay 1 point 9 days ago

Coming soon!

... To a theater near you?

To a computer near you?

To a house near you?

Coming soon to a coming soon near you?

...

Coming soon somewhere, but where!?

oneflygtiguy's Completed Build: The Unryzen

AnyOtherWay 2 points 11 days ago

Ooh, that 9590 and SLI 980ti combo... Are you sure the Sli 980ti's are fast enough to not be a bottleneck to the CPU?

Jokes aside, a very nice and interesting build, omega good job!

Forum Topic "I ducked up - urgent help needed"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 11 days ago

I don't believe you can, you'll have to redownload it completely.

Forum Topic "Games you've put hundreds of hours in but paid less than $5.00 for?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 12 days ago

I haven't really bought any games that are $5 or less... I've played free games on a site called Kongregate, I have another couple free games like Brawlhalla and Elsword(both of which I enjoy), and really the cheapest and one of few games I've bought is Terraria for $10, which is my favorite game... Not a single one that's cheaper.

hops1's Completed Build: First Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 12 days ago

The more important question is why a Z170M motherboard and DDR3 ram, over an H170 and DDR4 ram?

GETCARTER's Completed Build: RGB Modern Retro Tetris Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 12 days ago

It does look beautiful and impressively Tetris looking, but... Is it even strong enough to play Tetris? I'm not sure...

+1

Forum Topic "need wifi ideas"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 12 days ago

If you'd like the best wireless adapter, it should be this. However, since you'll only be there for 3 weeks I doubt it'd be the best idea to spend $120 on it, and really the only reason I'd recommend to spend $120 on it is in case something happens again. Towards a $60-50 or so one I'd suggest these. And towards a $30 or so, I'm planning to go with the Rosewill N900.

Check out reviews for all of them, make decisions, just figure out which you'd think would work greatest for you.

Forum Topic "What have you learned in 2016"

AnyOtherWay 3 points 15 days ago

Although, to be serious, I actually learned stuff related to computers, from the computers themselves to the peripheals, and how what everyone considers the best isn't always what you want or consider best for you. I want a different $60 case then others, different keyboard, different headphones, etc etc.

I also learned about some other stuff then computer related, like what a wall scroll is, or that I like spriting again and am actually good at it for once, but really not much that I can remember, since I don't actively do the other stuff currently to remember.

Forum Topic "What have you learned in 2016"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 15 days ago

I learned absolutely nothing, like with all years!

Forum Topic "What should I upgrade here?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 15 days ago

No, they are incredibly similar in speed - Some games the 480 will perform better, some the 1060 will perform better. Personally, at current time since they both can get 60 frames in just about all games in 1080p, I'd say the 480 is the better buy, with more VRAM allowing it to be more future proof/useable for longer, and CrossFire as a maybe upgrade path, since the 1060 lacks SLI.

Also, I'd say the 480 would also be better for the person who asked this question, since he has a three year old GPU, meaning he probably keeps the same GPU for a while if I was to guess, and with the 480's higher VRAM it'll be better if he keeps it for longer. However I'd still suggest a 1070, unless he can't afford that, of course.

Forum Topic "What should I upgrade here?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 15 days ago

You should upgrade the GTX 760 to perhaps a 1070, which would leave you good to go for a while. Could also upgrade the CPU cooler to overclock your CPU better a bit, or some case fans, but really the GPU is the only upgrade "needed".

Forum Topic "Quiet keyboard"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 16 days ago

What's your budget, and what backlight color do you want? These would be helpful things to know... However, I'd just like to mention that I actually recently made a list of membrane keyboards, and since you think a mechanical would be wrong for you you might want to give it a read.

LotusComputers's Completed Build: Lotus Computer: Ten VR PCs for Flight Training

AnyOtherWay -3 points 17 days ago

You, uhh, didn't need to include the "AnyOtherWay" in your response, it actually looks sort of dumb... Which is just dumb because of my username, but still.

Also yeah, quite true they'd want the best of the best, I suppose.

Forum Topic "DECIDING ON DIFFERENT MONITOR OPTIONS"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 17 days ago

Of your choices, I'd either get the single Asus monitor or the two Acer monitors. The 27 inch BenQ is, in my opinion, too big a size for a 1080p monitor, and it has less of a hz then the Asus as well as not having G-Sync, and I'd rather two monitors of the same kind if dealing with dual monitor, so a lower hz on one wouldn't be great to me. It'd be fine though, I'd just rather not.

However, I'd consider perhaps this AOC 1080p 144 hz G-Sync monitor, and getting a $100 dollar monitor with? Which goes against my "dual monitor, same kind" thought process, but... Ehh. Otherwise, no other input from me.

Forum Topic "What is a nice case to match the colour scheme of MSI's Black and Red?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 17 days ago

NZXT S340/NZXT H440, perhaps, depending on how much you want to spend?

LotusComputers's Completed Build: Lotus Computer: Ten VR PCs for Flight Training

AnyOtherWay 1 point 17 days ago

Well damn, that is an impressive story to tell... Ten PC's more then good enough for most peoples needs... Damn impressive, +1.

Forum Topic "how should i upgrade my build?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

Well, depends on budget you have for the fans... Your going to want airflow fans, not static pressure though. Look at Noctua for $20-25 fans, and Corsair Air Series I believe have a high airflow version for $15, and for $10 or so I believe is the CoolerMaster Sickleflow, any less I wouldn't consider worth it.

Forum Topic "how should i upgrade my build?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

Oh, I forgot to answer the fan question, whoops. No, a fan is not another word for a CPU cooler, a fan is a case fan. If you want a new CPU cooler, then budget makes it varied. Go for the Cryorig M9i, Cryorig H7, or the Scythe Fuma. However, how are temps on your CPU? It should be fine with the stock cooler, and it's not like it can be overclocked, so that shouldn't be a big problem temps wise...

For better airflow in the case you'll want a case fan, or a couple. Your case can use up to 6 120 mm fans, and comes with one - Do what you want with that info.

Forum Topic "The Best Membrane Keyboards in Varying Price Ranges(in my opinion)"

AnyOtherWay submitter 1 point 18 days ago

Yeah, it is a bit sad, but membrane's are at least still nice... Part of the reason I wanted to make this list was because I was like why not make it, and to give some cool membrane's a good look. I could have made this list better though, but it was late, and I didn't think of much to say... I might update it later or something, I don't know though.

Also, towards mechs in the price range of $31-50... I'd personally rather a high end or medium end membrane over a low end mechanical. Part of the reason of my plans of the G213 is because it's a nicely good end membrane, and the Apex 350 is just cause it seems like my personal perfect keyboard.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

They should be similar, so I'd just get amongst the cheapest. Last I saw the Corsair Vengeance LPX was amongst the cheapest and looks nice, so I'd suggest that I guess.

Forum Topic "how should i upgrade my build?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

Well, towards recommending an SSD it depends on how much you want to spend and how big of one you want. 240GB? 480GB? 960GB? So I'll recommend some for varying sizes. The PNY CS1311 has good speeds for the price of $65-70 right now, similar to other SSD's in the price range while being good in my mind, of course not as good as others. If you want a faster one, a Samsung 850 EVO is currently in the prices of $90-100, and is faster, although I'd prefer to spend $20-30 extra and getting either a Samsung 850 Pro, which is faster then the 850 Evo, or the more liked for me, a 480 GB one. I'd, again, suggest the PNY CS1311, which is currently at a price $120-130, perfect for the 480 GB. If you want some faster then again, the 850 Evo is perfect, but this time I wouldn't suggest the 850 Pro, it's at similar price to a 1 TB SSD which would bring more room, but for a similar price as the 850 Evo you can get a Crucial MX300, which is 750 GB's for some extra size, and similar speed to a CS1311 as recommended before by me. Currently for the about 960 GB I'd suggest the Crucial MX300, with its 1.1 TB of storage being quite a bit, a similar price of $240-260 currently to other 960 GB/1 TB SSD's with similar speed and extra amount of storage. If you would like to get a faster I again recommend the 850 Evo for the price of $320-340, being more speed at a bit less storage.

Personally, go for the cheaper, just because the 850's are faster doesn't mean the increase is worth it enough - Really, the biggest reason, to me, would be the 5 year warranty on the Evo's(I believe they do at least) and the 10 year warranty's on the Pro's, but it's not necessarily worth the price increase that they have, especially the Pro.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

In regards to the PC build itself you made a comment on faster RAM, care to comment further?

Really, it's just that faster ram is a bit faster(not too much really), and for $100, which is about $20-30 more then the 2400 speed ram here, you can get a 3000 speed one. It shouldn't effect a great deal but it will effect a bit at the least.

manirelli's Build Guide: Excellent Gaming Build

AnyOtherWay 2 points 18 days ago

Well, I wish that monitor wise there were two choices I could recommend, one being a 1080p 144hz and one a 1440p 60hz monitor, but the 1440p is too expensive, so instead I'll recommend two 144hz 1080p monitors, the cheapest on pcpartpicker - Both are from the same company, coincidentally. There aren't much differences between the two, one is Freesync which is useless with the 1070, so wouldn't matter, and they have slightly different display ports, but should overall be pretty much the same, except for stands. The cheaper one has some red on the stand of it, while the other one appears to have an orange, copperish color? Hard to tell with pictures. Also stands are different.

Overall I'd get the cheaper one, and either save $20 extra or spend $20 on something.

Forum Topic "Cablemod vs. Icemodz vs. Ensourced"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

Hmm, alright, makes sense.

Forum Topic "how should i upgrade my build?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 18 days ago

Well... If your fans are starting to get loud on your GPU like you say then it might not be the best idea to CrossFire yet, which will probably make it worse... At least, until you get some extra fans in there so that temps are good. However, how is it starting to feel slow? Your CPU is an i5, amongst the best, and is pretty much perfect for gaming. GPU wise the 380 isn't as good as a 480, being worse by about 50%, so perhaps GPU wise is the problem... Perhaps get a RX 480 or wait for the 490? Or give up CrossFire and get a 1070? Since your motherboard doesn't support SLI you'd lose CrossFire as an upgrade though... Or is the problem in that it's not really slow but load times are just slower then would be liked, which would be fixed by another SSD for your stuffs, either a 240/480 GB or so or replacing the HDD with a 1 TB SSD... Otherwise, speed wise not much to do. Maybe an upgrade in ram, DDR4-3000/3200 16 GB's is about a $100, but it would probably not help much...

Also your case is fine, unless you want a better looking one. Although some other cases can provide better airflow because of design, it's not needed too much.

Forum Topic "how should i upgrade my build?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 19 days ago

It depends on your budget and what your looking for... Like, do you want to be able to increase your monitors resolution? Then get a 1070/1080, or wait to see what AMD will offer for similar(since your motherboard can CrossFire), or even CrossFire your 380's. Need a better CPU for video editing or whatever? Upgrade to an i7 6700K and at least a Cryorig M9i, probably more in cooler, and be able to utilize the better speed of an i7 and the overclocking your motherboard will be capable of. Want faster load times? Get a 1 TB SSD and replace your HDD. Overall I just don't know what you need to upgrade, and you didn't specify... So I'm just going to suggest some simple upgrades that are cheap and might be in line with what you need/want.

...

If you want better airflow there are two things to do, one being get a CPU cooler, at least Cryorig M9i, with more to spend H7, with even more to spend Scythe Fuma, and two would be fill out the case fan slots. You have 6 120mm fan slots, fill them up. Choices vary on how much you want to spend, from getting Noctua's $20-25 solution or getting Corsairs Air Series I believe are the name for $15 each, it all varies. If you get this also might wanna get a fan controller. Want more ram then get another kit of (preferably) the same ram, increasing ram size which is useful, and should only cost about $50. Other then that, no cheap easy thoughts without knowing what you need.

Forum Topic "Cablemod vs. Icemodz vs. Ensourced"

AnyOtherWay 2 points 20 days ago

Perhaps... BitFenix? I'm not sure how the quality compares, but it should be a bit cheaper probably?

Forum Topic "New build. Looking for a monitor."

AnyOtherWay 2 points 20 days ago

One is IPS with 21 extra hz, meaning higher max frames the monitor can utilize, but has a higher ms refresh rate by 3, meaning that part is worse. IPS will look better and the extra hz is also nice, so if you can spend the extra $200 it's not a bad idea, and I don't believe the extra ms of response time would be too noticeable, but saving $200 is nice...

My thoughts on the matter are if you'd like to spend less then spend less, but if you don't care how much you spend then spend the more. Others'll agree with me and disagree with me, I'm just telling my thoughts on the matter.

Gadget_V6's Completed Build: Little Boy Blue Budget Build

AnyOtherWay 1 point 20 days ago

So please refrain from the "If you would have spent $20 -$30 more you could have got..."

Well, if you would have... Nah, I won't mess with you like that. Instead, I'll mess with you a different way - If you had used the stock cooler for the CPU, which would have been enough, you could have either gotten a bigger SSD, or have been closer to the $530-ish mark on how much you spent.

Also, the i3 would of been a great pair with the 470 in my opinion, especially considering budget and how your boy is apparently just getting into PC gaming according to you, but at least it won't need an upgrade CPU wise for a longer amount of time, so it's not the worst idea.

Forum Topic "Any rpg game app in android suggestions?"

AnyOtherWay 1 point 22 days ago

Zenonia 4/5/maybe 6(haven't played 6) are definite suggestions for an android RPG game. Their fun.

Forum Topic "Some questions about VR, and what the best GPU is going to be."

AnyOtherWay 1 point 22 days ago

To put it simply, yes. There is a link to a build with a 4790K and a 970, and if you go about the site you'll find that he is able to do VR perfectly fine.

The 970 is good enough, definitely.

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