One of my PC's has an non-activated copy of Windows 10(installed it with a USB but didn't put in a product key). Not much of a difference honestly.
Love the C7, for what it is, it works great. Plus it just looks awesome.
Well the 1080 Ti did just come out, and will provide quite a frame rate boost considering the monitor is UWQHD.
Most of these SATA SSDs perform about the same. Samsung has an edge in continuous read/writes, but boot times and game loading times are very similar across the board.
C7 is a beastly little cooler, especially for 25 bucks. Plus it looks awesome paired with a Krait.
Monochrome builds are becoming really popular.
And I wouldn't have it any other way :)
I've got the wireless version of that mouse too, good choice!
I looooooooooooooooove the Manta case so much. It's the perfect size for a single GPU gaming PC. Plus it just looks awesome.
Surround monitor gaming is amazing, trust me ;)
I really like the selection of black and white motherboards for the 200 series. You really can't go wrong with any of them! Looks great!
RAID 10 for the Hitachi drives?
Nice looking build, you got some good deals too! But beware, paying that price for Windows 10 comes with a high risk of it being deactivated later on.
It is absolutely not better, not even close.
Thanks! Though the cost effective part will change once the 1080 Ti FTW3 comes out haha. Just hoping the Microcenter price on the 7700K becomes more standard(or I'll just drive 2 hours to Microcenter).
Yeah, plus the R5 series should in theory overclock a little better with much more acceptable thermals.
I'm even considering switching from my 6600 to a 1400X, but after seeing the R7's do worse than the not so high hopes that I had for it in gaming...I'm not making any serious plans yet.
Shhh...I like to give people the benefit of the doubt :P
It's not a gaming processor. It's for heavy productivity workloads that can't be offloaded to the GPU. Honestly, I'm hoping the builder knows this, because it's just not worth $500(by a long shot) if you're only gaming.
Haha I love how you buckled in the motherboard and CPU on your way home.
Well, regardless, you still have a very powerful workstation!
Don't you hate how mITX boards are so expensive yet you get less features, less potential and less physical materials? Zero logic behind the pricing.
I like this combination. As soon as I saw HT on the new Pentium's I knew what was to come. RX 470 is also really good value.
Mannnn. R7 1800X would have done just as well(possibly better) and saved you over $600 =/
Too late to return? Haha
That looks really ******* cool. I do prefer the look of EVGA cards(mainly because of how they show off which GPU it is :P), but even without, it looks amazing.
Thanks! Now that we know the 1080 Ti is going to be reasonably priced I'm considering going triple ultrawide hahaha. The peripheral vision though! Haha
Either way, you'll be set for a good while ;)
Hell, you've got yourself a 1440p killer! Or enough power for 1080p surround.
Was going to suggest putting the board and CPU back on Craigslist and putting a B250M and Pentium G4560 to save you from having to get a new case(and getting better frame rate in Overwatch), but then I remembered you have DDR3.
The front of that case has ventilation that you have the PSU intake facing, right? To me it looks like you may have found a new case design for full sized boards in shorter cases!
Kaby Lake Pentium is no joke, adding Hyper Threading was a huge upgrade. You can honestly get by with the cheaper G4560 and hit frame rates within probably 2% of what an i3 6100 would get.
Now that's bartering!
I don't remember where I saw charts showing total system draw, but this has GPU draw under a heavy load drawing 329W. Depending on how many fans, peripherals, drives, etc. you have, it's very reasonable to expect the entire system to be drawing under 500W. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1070-2-way-sli-review,4.html
Obviously if you're building a new system for that kind of setup, you should definitely not buy a 500W PSU and should go for at least 650, but if you only have a 500W and it's a high quality unit, you don't have to stress out about upgrading it immediately if you want to do 1070 SLI.
I'm talking under load.
I do not.
Food for thought: it actually cools just as well as many AIO coolers! Definitely worth keeping in mind for the future.
This is a good case, it just doesn't look and cost the exact same as the(highly overdone) case you suggested. And as said above, an mATX motherboard looks way better in an mATX case.
This cooler would really set this build off and keep it 5-10 degrees cooler. Nice build nonetheless!
A lot of people don't actually lock in the price that they paid. Mine shows it as $188, while the person who commented before me quoted 175.
Eh, I think it's always a good idea to not cheap out on the PSU(though I do think that specific model is overpriced, especially when Seasonic has better quality/efficiency units for the same).
I was flipping through the pictures and got to the one of all the cables and literally said aloud "WOW!". This looks amazing.
Bummer. Yeah, any type of integrated graphics isn't going to really be good for modern gaming. But it looks like for under 600 bucks you got an entire rig that gets the job done plus monitor and keyboard/mouse, so that's pretty good no matter how you look at it!
I just love the look of the 10 series EVGA cards. Even just the top view you get once installed still looks awesome.
Really nice PC, but I do feel that you could have got a bit more bang for your back had you went for an RX 470 for $20 more instead. Hell, if you can still return the 1050 Ti it's not too late! Haha. It's still a good 1080p card, I just feel Nvidia set the price too high for it.
You might be thinking of the Home edition.
"Technically" we're supposed to buy the Retail version anyway. But we also technically don't even have to activate it to use it lol.
I love the Aerocool fans, I have two of them myself. Perfect choice for this build, looks awesome!
The main thing holding me back is I know a 1080 won't run 5864x1080 @ 75Hz in Far Cry Primal(along with some other games) and I definitely can't afford 2 of those haha. Stuttering seems to be less common with the 10 series and I'm betting the high bandwidth bridge is helping.
What all games do you play and do you notice any bad stuttering? I'm torn between returning my 1070 while I can still get a full refund and getting a 1080, or grabbing a 2nd 1070 and HB bridge. Consistent scaling isn't a concern because it scales well in games I care about... it's the stuttering that I'm afraid of.
And you said my build was clean? No sir. My build looks like trash in comparison to this haha. I love it! With the size of those video cards, I don't know why they didn't just make the bracket 3 slots wide as well for extra support.
That sounds like a defect or user error.
You generally want to shoot for your max system draw being 50-60% of your PSU's max total output, this provides peak efficiency. If you really wanted to save money and enjoy cussing up a storm while building, there's a non-modular version of this PSU for 10 bucks less.
The PSU is the component that pushes electricity through your other much more expensive components. The PSU is the last thing you want to go cheap on. You can get a 30 dollar PSU made with cheap capacitors and other junk components, if you really don't care about quality(please don't do that to your poor, defenseless PC).
The motherboard that this build includes is compatible with a wide range of Intel processors all the way up to the new i7 7700K* and will be compatible with all desktop graphics cards for the foreseeable future. There will also be 2 empty slots for additional RAM, and you can even add additional hard drives if/when you need more space.
As is, this build has a lot of potential and future upgrades could result in you having it for quite a few years. It's as simple as buying more RAM and putting it in, or removing the old video card and putting in a new one, same for processor. For now though, if you've got an extra 50 bucks to spend while building, I'd suggest getting a 1TB hard drive to go along with it, the SSD will get filled up fast with games.
*New Kaby Lake processors(anything with a model starting with 7) will require a BIOS update on the motherboard. This is easy to do and won't be necessary with Skylake processors(6xxx), it's just something to know for future reference.
The 8GB version of the 470 provides such little performance increase that I wouldn't recommend paying extra money for it. If you want better than a 4GB 470 I would recommend just getting a 6GB 1060, or if you play games that are known to run better on AMD hardware, an RX480.
8GB of DDR4 is enough for gaming. I feel that it would be better to get 8GB of faster RAM now and add more later if you want than to spend less on 16GB of slower RAM now.
If you do that, get a 7400 instead. Non K Kaby Lake are a few hundred MHz faster than Skylake for the same price. I've got a system with a 6100 and one with a 6600, unless you play CPU intensive games exclusively the i3 does a good job of keeping up with a GTX 1070(even at 5864x1080).
I do understand why many people would want the peace of mind of an i5. The 7400 is basically the same performance as a 6500 for 20 bucks less.