I do not.
Food for thought: it actually cools just as well as many AIO coolers! Definitely worth keeping in mind for the future.
This is a good case, it just doesn't look and cost the exact same as the(highly overdone) case you suggested. And as said above, an mATX motherboard looks way better in an mATX case.
This cooler would really set this build off and keep it 5-10 degrees cooler. Nice build nonetheless!
A lot of people don't actually lock in the price that they paid. Mine shows it as $188, while the person who commented before me quoted 175.
Eh, I think it's always a good idea to not cheap out on the PSU(though I do think that specific model is overpriced, especially when Seasonic has better quality/efficiency units for the same).
I was flipping through the pictures and got to the one of all the cables and literally said aloud "WOW!". This looks amazing.
Bummer. Yeah, any type of integrated graphics isn't going to really be good for modern gaming. But it looks like for under 600 bucks you got an entire rig that gets the job done plus monitor and keyboard/mouse, so that's pretty good no matter how you look at it!
I just love the look of the 10 series EVGA cards. Even just the top view you get once installed still looks awesome.
Really nice PC, but I do feel that you could have got a bit more bang for your back had you went for an RX 470 for $20 more instead. Hell, if you can still return the 1050 Ti it's not too late! Haha. It's still a good 1080p card, I just feel Nvidia set the price too high for it.
You might be thinking of the Home edition.
"Technically" we're supposed to buy the Retail version anyway. But we also technically don't even have to activate it to use it lol.
I love the Aerocool fans, I have two of them myself. Perfect choice for this build, looks awesome!
The main thing holding me back is I know a 1080 won't run 5864x1080 @ 75Hz in Far Cry Primal(along with some other games) and I definitely can't afford 2 of those haha. Stuttering seems to be less common with the 10 series and I'm betting the high bandwidth bridge is helping.
What all games do you play and do you notice any bad stuttering? I'm torn between returning my 1070 while I can still get a full refund and getting a 1080, or grabbing a 2nd 1070 and HB bridge. Consistent scaling isn't a concern because it scales well in games I care about... it's the stuttering that I'm afraid of.
And you said my build was clean? No sir. My build looks like trash in comparison to this haha. I love it! With the size of those video cards, I don't know why they didn't just make the bracket 3 slots wide as well for extra support.
That sounds like a defect or user error.
You generally want to shoot for your max system draw being 50-60% of your PSU's max total output, this provides peak efficiency. If you really wanted to save money and enjoy cussing up a storm while building, there's a non-modular version of this PSU for 10 bucks less.
The PSU is the component that pushes electricity through your other much more expensive components. The PSU is the last thing you want to go cheap on. You can get a 30 dollar PSU made with cheap capacitors and other junk components, if you really don't care about quality(please don't do that to your poor, defenseless PC).
The motherboard that this build includes is compatible with a wide range of Intel processors all the way up to the new i7 7700K* and will be compatible with all desktop graphics cards for the foreseeable future. There will also be 2 empty slots for additional RAM, and you can even add additional hard drives if/when you need more space.
As is, this build has a lot of potential and future upgrades could result in you having it for quite a few years. It's as simple as buying more RAM and putting it in, or removing the old video card and putting in a new one, same for processor. For now though, if you've got an extra 50 bucks to spend while building, I'd suggest getting a 1TB hard drive to go along with it, the SSD will get filled up fast with games.
*New Kaby Lake processors(anything with a model starting with 7) will require a BIOS update on the motherboard. This is easy to do and won't be necessary with Skylake processors(6xxx), it's just something to know for future reference.
The 8GB version of the 470 provides such little performance increase that I wouldn't recommend paying extra money for it. If you want better than a 4GB 470 I would recommend just getting a 6GB 1060, or if you play games that are known to run better on AMD hardware, an RX480.
8GB of DDR4 is enough for gaming. I feel that it would be better to get 8GB of faster RAM now and add more later if you want than to spend less on 16GB of slower RAM now.
If you do that, get a 7400 instead. Non K Kaby Lake are a few hundred MHz faster than Skylake for the same price. I've got a system with a 6100 and one with a 6600, unless you play CPU intensive games exclusively the i3 does a good job of keeping up with a GTX 1070(even at 5864x1080).
I do understand why many people would want the peace of mind of an i5. The 7400 is basically the same performance as a 6500 for 20 bucks less.
Apologies in advance for the long reply lol.
That must have been a typo, "not necessary" is what they meant. You get a CPU cooler with it and it's good enough for this CPU. If you're not happy with the temperatures out of the box, you can also adjust the fan speeds to run faster at certain temperatures. Information on how to do this is easy to find on YouTube if you end up wanting to.
If you're not planning on building immediately and are interested in saving 50 bucks, wait for the Pentium G4560 to be released and reviewed(couple weeks I'd guess). The soon to be released Kaby Lake Pentium processors have Hyper Threading which basically allows each CPU core to do more work in less time(Skylake Pentiums didn't have this, but the i3 6100 does), so it appears that the main difference between the G4560 and i3 6100 is a 200MHz clock speed. In game, that translates to no noticeable difference. If the tests and reviews show the 1-3 FPS difference that I expect, then I'd recommend the Pentium all day for budget builds.
If you want good headphones, the Logitech G230 are fantastic and usually you can find them for 30 bucks. I wear glasses and my ears stick out, but I can wear these for HOURS. If you want surround headphones(they're all just virtual surround) pair those headphones with a $10-20 USB virtual surround card. If you can find the G430 on sale for under 50 bucks, those are also good because they're just a different color G230 with an included USB sound card.
As for performance, this build would play those games amazingly, and also any new game on high settings with more than acceptable performance. For the new games, there will be dips in frame rates, but nothing super noticeable or game breaking(consoles do it too, and often worse).
I expect to see the i3 replaced with a Pentium G4560 once it's released. Theoretically only 5% slower, but costs 45% less. That's right, Pentiums are getting Hyper Threading! And with an MSRP of $64, Intel is taking a shot at the budget market as well with this refresh.
Well when you compare it to enthusiast level hardware, no, but in comparison to a typical PC found in homes? Oh yeah, definitely excellent.
Also, the 1060 doesn't come default with 2 HDMI ports, that's only the Asus models(and the Asus 1070's do as well). And you can ignore whatever core clock speeds are on the box and spec sheets, once GPU Boost kicks in(see: basically always) all these cards run in the 1900s.
I'd call 5864x1080 on high/ultra settings at 60 FPS pretty excellent ;)
I would honestly get a Cryorig H7 instead of the liquid cooler, it's a damn good cooler and you'll still be able to OC plenty(plus, it can't ever leak no matter what). I'd also spend $15-20 more on double the SSD storage, you'll love the load times in the games you put on it. I also prefer Seasonic G series over that model of EVGA PSU(better internal components and efficiency for only a few dollars more, google Jonny Guru's reviews of the two).
Because if you have a USB drive and access to a computer with internet you don't need it. You're paying $90-120(you're technically supposed to buy a retail copy) to remove a watermark and unlock the "personalize" section of Windows settings. If you don't activate Windows, Microsoft doesn't really care.
Believe me, I regret every penny spent on that stupid product key.
Tests I've seen have shown OC'd X99 systems with 2 way SLI 1070s pulling under 500W from the wall. Not peak efficiency but if you've got a good 80+ Gold you'll be fine.
Yeah, and you'll find that you don't even really notice when you're not hitting 60 fps. As long as the pacing is correct I can hardly tell any difference between anything in the 50-70 fps range. If you're not dead set on locking at 60 in every game crank all the settings up, almost everything is still playable.
Definitely. There aren't really any games that wouldn't be playable on this system, just don't go in hoping for maxed out settings on every new game at 60 FPS. Everything will look nice and run smoothly though.
Should probably check the builds people have before trying to lecture them lol. I know exactly, first hand, what an i3 6100 can do. You do not get a solid, V-sync locked 60 FPS at all times on new games on ultra settings. I consider minimums, dips, everything. If you say something gets 60 FPS, I better not see a single dip below 60 otherwise it's not an accurate statement. I say things like 30+ because it's realistic, you will ALWAYS be above 30, but you will run into scenarios where max settings will get you mid 50s, and even dips into the 40s.
That being said, all of that is playable and frame timing makes it look smooth. I just try to give people realistic expectations so when they do a build and load up BF1 or something and see dips in the actual FPS they don't feel lied to.
G4400 has a locked multiplier. You're thinking of the G3258.
Hey I never said it was the greatest idea :p
Keeping in mind that the tests UB does on the GPU are DX9 and DX10. Every other system benchmark their tests do are fairly representative of actual performance, but the GPU scores should be taken with a grain of salt.
It's actually fairly simple and the BIOS is easy to find with a simple Google search.
This site has done most of the work for you.
This build would run Fallout 4 flawlessly at 1080P and 1440P, and run it very well at 4K. You would need to plug an ethernet cable into it to access internet unless you buy a WiFi card or USB dongle.
What? Very rarely will an i5 6500 bottleneck a GTX 1070, and when it does, it will be in a very CPU intensive game and probably only at 1080P. Majority of games you'll be able to max out GPU usage with CPU usage sitting in the 40s.
Tax depends on where you purchase your items from. Most online retailers don't charge tax, but if you buy in a store you can factor in your local tax rate.
Assembling a PC doesn't take a ton of skill or require you to be a PC expert, but it does require patience and a little bit of knowledge that can easily be obtained by watching YouTube videos. How difficult your build will be depends largely on the case you choose and whether or not you have a modular power supply.
As for performance, I think this will get 30+ FPS in ALL games if you adjust graphics settings(and even 60 FPS in some cases depending on how old the game is and where you have the graphics settings). You won't be able to run everything on highest settings, but I think it's safe to say you will get better visuals and performance than a PS4 Pro.
Compare Ashes of the Singularity on those 2 CPUs and you may rethink your position.
In games that don't put much load on the CPU, absolutely, they're near the same. But in games that DO rely on the CPU...you're looking at a 25% difference in frame rate. The price difference between your build and the same build with an i3 is only 9%. Gotta keep in mind that your ENTIRE system is needed to play games, so you can't just figure "This CPU/GPU costs twice as much and doesn't give me double performance!" because that's just ignoring the fact that you can't game with just a CPU or GPU, you need the whole system. When you factor in a 9% system cost increase that gives you much more performance increase than that...it's a pretty damn good deal.
BCLK OC. You can overclock literally any Skylake processor if you have a Z170 motherboard and the proper bios.
B150 is better than H110. H110 has PCIe 2.0 instead of 3.0(which doesn't really hinder GPU performance, especially lower end) and is a slower chipset(again, probably not something you will notice), it also has fewer SATA ports and supports fewer USB ports and has fewer chipset PCIe lanes(which means you can add fewer expansion cards like capture cards, WiFi cards, sound cards, etc.).
Either chipset will do fine with this build(or any build that doesn't require overclocking or RAID). If you need/want more USB ports and SATA ports, go with a B150.
This article does a fairly good job at simplifying the differences between 1xx series Intel Chipsets.
All of them. Age of the game will determine how pretty you can make the graphics.
If a PSU is any good, it has good quality components inside. Crap quality components can have a good efficiency rating, that doesn't mean they have longevity or reliability.
You say that because you don't own an SSD. There's no going back once you purchase your first one ;)
You see almost identical frame rates in most games between the 2. That said, I would still recommend an i3.
What's to come not even considered, I'm seeing $1400 with no monitors and no 1070/Fury X. But I suppose if the builder's priority was looks and not 4K or multi-monitor then it's still a good value compared to going out and buying Alienware or something.
Plus, it does look really nice.
Well, I hate to be "that guy", but if we're talking about misleading marketing, that processor isn't truly octo-core.
The world is a screwed up place full of screwed up corporations. Just build a sick gaming rig to get lost in VR and forget about the real world :3
It looks nice but I can't help but feel like you spent WAY too much money for the performance you're going to get =/
The only thing I can suggest is adding a 128 or 256 GB SSD as your main drive and for a few games. This will make your system much snappier when you're using it as a desktop and in games you'll see much shorter loading screens.
Really good job, it looks amazing. 1050 Ti is a pretty good card for the price.
Wow. Grow up.