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The painful build from Hell...

by Kanata23

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12 Comments

Details

Date Published

May 14, 2018

CPU Clock Rate

3.2GHz

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.59GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

8.01GHz

Description

My cousin liked my previous builds, and asked me to build him a slim ITX media and light gaming PC.

So I figure, I enjoyed building pc's, and my last builds went so smoothly....

This build didn't go smoothly...

I purchased all of the following items around US Black Friday (it shows you how long it took to get this all working!). Quickly put everything together and it worked for a good week of testing and updates before I delivered the PC.

My cousin has the computer for one whole day, and then "poof!", nothing, just a black screen and no POST.

Over the next five months I try many solutions with no luck, and end up having to RMA many different pieces of this build, before it finally booted up again.

In the end it was faulty GeIL RAM and the AMD CPU that seemed to be the culprit, it must of been a compatibility issue that caused both to not work. So this PC took a lot more money, sweat and tears to get working.

Props to Newegg for being so good during the RMA process.

In the end this a good decent build, but the pain and time wasn't worth it, until the next time that is....

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Memo1010 1 Build 5 points 8 days ago

wow, that took a LONG time. Glad you finally got it up though

wilhelmpeltzer 2 Builds 3 points 8 days ago

Nice build, surely appreciated more because of the effort. How's that low profile fan working for you? thinking of putting it in my next small build. +1

Kanata23 submitter 3 Builds 2 points 8 days ago

I would say it's good, but not exceptional. Due to the low profile of the cooler design, the fan is forced to spin quite fast (around 2000 RPM), so I find it a bit loud compared to my AIO water coolers. I find the temps averaging around 45" celsius. I would use the Noctua low profile cooler for a slim build next time.

wilhelmpeltzer 2 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

Ok thanks! What AIO cooler do you use?

Kanata23 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

On my other build I use a Corsair H100i V2, but it turns out virtually all AIO coolers are made by Asetek and are the same, so in the end you just end up buying the name brand you like best.

latc1956 2 points 8 days ago

+1 on your build that was finally made to work. The exact reason why you had problems is why I have avoided building with Ryzen CPU's. On PCPP it's hard to get a Ryzen build to show-up without conflict when you use their system build to test a build for issues. All the times I've tried using the System Build option, I get a warning about Ryzen incompatibility. I've also read here about some builders having to contact AMD to loan them another CPU just to simply get a Ryzen build to work. Memory issues with Ryzen are rampant too. Also, in the past I've seen where a lot of pre-Ryzen AMD builds kept the CPU running at or close too 100 percent. I've research this CPU usage issue and applied the 'fix' but it should not be necessary to do so. With those particular pre-Ryzen builds, AMD products run hotter too. The last two sentences are not hearsay, but I've seen it from years of personal experience with AMD. Just in my household we have 5 AMD systems and they all have a high percentage of CPU usage and have heat issues(both higher than Intel). These heat issues are not critical but they are bothersome. These issues are why I have not bit-the-bullet and abandoned Intel builds. To me it's just not worth the hassle. When I'm ready to build a system, I want no hassles whatsoever. I'm going to remember what I've heard from others here on PCPP who told us about their particular Ryzen build problems. Does this mean that I will always refuse to build a Ryzen system?? No - of course not, but I will wait until I hear from others they are no longer having any of these Ryzen build problems. I truly hope that AMD will solve these issues because I like building with AMD CPU's. Of course I like building with Intel CPU's too.

I'm glad to see that you stuck-it-out with your friends build. If your problems had been with a retail Ryzen build, your friend may never have been able to resolve it. I have not seen any retail Ryzen builds yet, so that last sentence may be a mute issue? Thank You for sharing with us your Hellish build that you finally cured. Good job! Praise The Lord and Godspeed to you all - 1 John 5:10!!

Kanata23 submitter 3 Builds 2 points 8 days ago

I too have had AMD systems before, but this was my first attempt at a completely brand new chipset. I agree they do seem to run hotter than team blue. But this is the first time I've ever had THIS level of problems with a build. For my next build I'd recommend sticking with tried and tested parts, and not try the newest CPU generation where incompatibilities can pop up anytime. Lesson learned.

Scavenger1610 1 point 8 days ago

Quick mention, incompatibilities with ryzen APUs not booting systems and having to get a new CPU for amd was because of mobos not having the right bios version, not necessarily a ryzen cpu fault.

Kanata23 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 8 days ago

I think this problem popped up after the system did an automatic update (as it worked great the week before delivery). In the end, I honestly believe the cheap RAM crapped out first taking the CPU with it. Next time G Skill!

Scavenger1610 1 point 8 days ago

G skill definitely, they actually have amd approved ram meant for ryzen processors

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Bronstet 4 Builds 1 point 8 days ago

Props to you for sticking with it and coming through. I myself used G.Skill DDR4 3000 mHz memory and had zero problems with my Ryzen 1600X. It seems like Crucial and Geil have issues though. Glad you managed to fix it.

Kanata23 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 8 days ago

I think I'll avoid Geil like the plague from now on. G Skill from now on!