Description

Time Lapse PC Build [ https://youtu.be/Vl94Q1N3ek8 ]

Not my personal rig. Built it for my Youtube channel cause I need more content/videos. I already made a Ryzen 3 build a few months ago. Used the 1050 Ti because I have it on hand and want to compare the Vega integrated graphics.

Comments

  • 19 months ago
  • 3 points

Good job on the build! Great cable management!

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank You. Cable management is tough if you want to make it look super clean. I had to run the front panel connectors and USB 3.0 cable literally behind the motherboard. [ Uploaded more pictures showing the cables ]

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

That's what's wrong a cable like the USB 3.0 on Cases like Rosewill. But nonetheless you did a hell of a job, especially considering the Case and a non-modular ATX. I'm quite inspired as well, because it looks really hard from my experience.

  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

I see you have Intel Optane in the first picture, does it work with this build? And also do you have benchmarks for your build?

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

it doesn't work. my big mistake on that one

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay thanks.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Why the Apu and dedicated graphics card?

  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

he wanted to be the first on the site with a 2200g

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

The best of both worlds?

  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

Possibly but the integrated graphics are not gonna get used

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Youtube channel purposes. I have the 1050 Ti on hand so I just threw it on the build. Besides, I am gonna do game benchmarks comparing the 1050 ti and the integrated vega graphics.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Fair enough. Wasn't criticising build (I like it), just a little confused

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I completely understand your point. Especially when graphic card prices are skyrocketing high. Thank You!

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah its crazy. It stopped for a while for nvidia GPUs here in the UK but the prices have gone back up to mad ones

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I've edited my description. Please read it. It's just a content for my Youtube Channel.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok

  • 19 months ago
  • 0 points

Same here. A 1200 would've been a better choice, and since they are being discontinued in favour of the 2200G, they could've saved some extra cash because I'm sure the 1200s will be left at lower or clearance prices soon. The dedicated graphics at least mean that they won't be left stranded if they ever sell the GPU and can't find a better one for a decent price. But still...

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Please read my description. Thank You!

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  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

While only one CCX is the definite reason for improvement in performance, it pains me a bit that L3 cache was halved here, same with PCI-E 3.0 lanes. But if indeed R3 1200 prices are higher than R3 2200G right now, then yes, indeed the APU is no-brainer,

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  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

Depends on the application. If you're gaming, the lesser amount of L3 is negligible. On more productive tasks, its on a case-by-case scenario. As for the PCI-E lanes, while I'm not saying or expecting a Ryzen G user to CF or SLI any cards, I do believe it's a bummer to have the bandwidth of, say 16x PCI-E 2.0 considering that while the bus isn't fully utilized by GPUs anyway, there is a negligible loss in performance.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

Not sure about the 10% difference but I do understand your point about the backup. I think the 2200g has a different ccx config as well as its higher stock clocks but pretty much every ryzen board supports overclocking including the one used in this build so the clocks don't make much difference. The r3 1200 has double the cache too

  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

holy cow i didn't realize that until now nice to know

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  • 19 months ago
  • 6 points

Why in the world would you think that? The 2200g has a 300 MHz speed increase and is a revised and refreshed product. Saying they perform the same, well that would be like saying the i5-6500 and i5-7500 perform the same which is just not true.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 3 points
  1. Yes
  2. No, if both are overclocked, you get better perf with ryzen 3 1200 because it can be overclocked higher and has no graphics on die as well as double the l3 cache
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  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

My PC has intel hd and an integrated GPU but no intel chips have no integrated graphics apart from some xeons

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I know. I said that NO intel chips have NO integrated GPU apart from some xeons

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Not gonna lie, you confused me for a minute with that double negative. :)

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  • 19 months ago
  • 0 points

yeah, I am confused too!

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  • 19 months ago
  • -1 points

Cause the dedicated can't play your Crisis or GTAV on near High 60fps. I dont understand why not to, a dedicated, even for a apu

You know, there is a method of putting words together where they actually make sense, right?

  • 19 months ago
  • -1 points

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted, what you said is true, Crazycatman's "Sentence" is illegible.

  • 19 months ago
  • -2 points

So true

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I would have just gone ryzen 3 if you were gonna go with the 1050ti, but nice build anyways

  • 19 months ago
  • 7 points

Well, then you're in luck. They did go with a Ryzen 3...2200G.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

LUL

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank You! Not my personal rig. Youtube purposes :D Honestly though, I just thought about that after your comment.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I dig it. Especially that case. Very well put together build

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Great pc! nice!

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice Work! Love the cable management.

Did you update the MoBo BiOS before hand (to support RavenRidge CPU)? Or you managed to post and update the bios with the new CPU?

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! The technicians at the store where I bought the mobo updated the bios for me.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

how did you get the ryzen 2200g to work because every motherboard I try to get with it on pc part picker comes up with you need a bios update and all that stuff?

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

yes. you need to update the bios with a previous ryzen cpu

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

arnt AMD giving out free CPU for the bios update for the ryzen 2200g so they can update the motherboard to fit the ryzen 2200g I think it was like a A-6xxx something. Though you have to return the CPU but no the fan for the CPU.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

So glad I came across this!! I am planning on doing the same exact thing! I will just be doing some live streaming with my Xbox One Console through the PC! would the iGPU be enough to do a 720 live stream. And also if we were to take the extra video card you got out of the equation, how does it perform with video editing? Looks pretty similiar to my build! Nice!

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I actually just ran GTA V earlier and I'm getting 1-5 FPS with the Integrated Vega Graphics. I saw a video on Youtube showing this PC running GTA at 720p and getting over 60 FPS. I'm not really sure how powerful the iGPU on this one is.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you have to update the bios

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

How did you manage to find a GTX 1050 Ti for $237.03?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

You can find them cheaper for 190..

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Bought it last year. Fyi, prices have gone up this year and are actually starting to go lower again this month.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you have to update the bios of the mobo before using the 2200G?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

yes

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I want to build this and I have a few questions (I'm new to this so don't judge)

  1. Can it stream?

  2. Can you find the GTX 1050 Ti anywhere else for cheaper?

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Why would anyone consider a 1050ti for the price of a RX 580. A 8 gb 570 is much faster and under $140.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

How many ram slots

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

It is compatible, you just have to update the bios using an older ryzen cpu. For me, I asked my local computer store to do it for me.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I think you can but you would probably have to send the motherboard directly to them. They might cover the shipping cost or you pay for it. If you are buying from a well-known site/store (newegg/amazon) try asking a customer rep if they could do it for you.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

Others are telling you to wait for 1200 prices to drop, or wondering why you're mixing IGPU with a graphics card, but it looks like they know nothing about computers.

Probably because the actual CPU performance of the 2200G lacks compared to the 1200 slightly. And, it has a halved L3 cache.

Now, it's good to have integrated graphics for troubleshooting (and I get this being a deciding factor). But, if you are talking about $5 being the reason to go with a slightly weaker chip....that just seems silly.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

A halved L3 cache can make a difference in CPU performance, especially in regards to games.

And, no, the 2200G does not outperform the 1200 in CPU performance. Here is a thorough benchmark conducted on game performance. As you can see, in most cases the 1200 beats the 2200G. And, given that these are running at base clocks with the 1200 (3.1 stock / 3.4 turbo) sitting firmly behind the 2200G (3.5 stock / 3.7 turbo) when the 1200 beats the 2200G, it would beat it even harder if frequencies were standardized. Also, in the instances the 2200G beats the 1200, the 1200 would likely make up that gap and equal or outperform the 2200G if standardizing frequencies.

So, a) would you like to explain how the 2200G "outperforms " the 1200 and b) would you like to provide proof with benchmarks and quantitative figures?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Luigi , you are losing gfx perf by having only a single stick of ram, very significant loss, you also lose some perf by only having 2400mhz ram , 3000mhz would go better. But great stuff , I intend to build something in a small case when RAM prices are better £100 for 2x4gb , still, even in 03042018.

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  • 19 months ago
  • 4 points

Pairing these processors with a GTX 1080 artificially creates a massive system bottleneck at the CPU which typical end-users will never experience.

You want a system bottleneck on the CPU when testing CPU performance....that let's you know that it was the CPU that was holding things back. Otherwise you'll have to play the game of "was it the CPU or the GPU that limited frames there?" That's just not how testing is conducted. You will notice this methodology is standard.

econd, even assuming that someone would build a Ryzen 1200 / GTX1080 rig for 1440p gaming, the largest lead the 1200 had over the 2200G was 6FPS (Ghost Recon @ 1440p).

Yes, this was the largest lead the 1200 had...while running at lower clock speeds. Standardize clockspeeds and margins would widen.

OK. First off let me say that niether one of these processors should never be paired with a GTX1080 (or equivalent) card in any real gaming machine.

This is absolutely not how it works. You don't pick a CPU based on your GPU and you don't do the reverse either. You pick a CPU primarily for the frame rates you want and a GPU for the resolution you want. Pairing a G4560 with a GTX 1080 ti makes perfect sense if you are building a purely gaming rig that is going for 4K @ 60 fps.

Can't we all just get along?

Yes, but that doesn't mean we can just let fiction fly as fact. People are spending money based on suggestions gained here. So if I see a bad suggestion, I am going to call it what it is.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank You! I did actually ended up buying the zotac for that price lol. I am gonna keep the 1050 ti and use it for future builds on my channel. I already did a ryzen 3 1200 video as well so I made this one. Not my personal rig. Youtube thing :D