Description

Basically, an impromptu black friday computer build for a full gaming pc with peripherals and monitor for under 500, but with full upgrade-ability to the 3000 series Ryzen cpu's when they come out. This computer setup features: -75hz Freesync 1080p monitor -2.4 & 5ghz wifi and bluetooth -Mechanical keyboard with rgb and low latency mouse with at least an a9800 chipset or better -Decent storage with room for expansion -Support for dual monitors with no gaming impact

Final cost was $453

Part Reviews

CPU

The heart of the build. With an MSI motherboard, you can overclock these to 3.9ghz at 1.4v, but the gigabyte DS3H b450 motherboard doesnt support it :(

Havent run into any gaming bottlenecking issues with an rx 570.

(1/12/2019) The cpu is now overclockable on the gigabyte, Asrock, Asus, Msi motherboards, and was able to hit 4.0 ghz with an fsb and multiplier overclock. Performs similarly when overclocked to a ryzen 3 1200 at stock speeds

Motherboard

Great motherboard for the price, even worked with ram not listed on its compatibility list at better speeds than stock with no voltage or latency increase. Was unable to overclock the processor due to the 200ge being "locked".

Memory

Installed with an athlon 200ge, no issues even though it was not listed as compatible with the motherboard.

Storage

Works, uses sata II not sata III, but that shouldnt deter you because no mechanical hard drive will use over 3gbps.

Video Card

Managed to get this for 134 dollars on BF. Was far cheaper than any 1050 ti, supports freesync. Performs well, love the silent fan feature, and rgb led.

Case

No complaints. Don't know what the other reviews say about bad cable management, as long as you think your cable routes ahead its a breeze.

Power Supply

Actually feels quality for the money, and is more than sufficient for the low power draw system. Hopefully it lasts.

Custom

Definitely better quality than expected for an $8.50 cent mouse.

Custom

Ended up getting the "rgb" version of this keyboard, very satisfying mechanical keyboard with really good media functions and options for the keyboard.

Custom

"ngff" wifi card that works in the m.2 slot in the motherboard. Does not come with antenna.

Custom

Really good monitor for money, could not find a cheaper freesync monitor with good reviews.

Comments

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build dude, planning something similar i always check on reviews for this ram kit u got is it good and did you try overclocking it? And what about the storage? 750gb brand new for 25$ isnt bad but is that so?

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Got my msi motherboard and 8gb of 2666 memory, just need an apu for now and im good

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Thats good. Something to note, I was able to undervolt this ram, but got some memtest errors when I did. Experiment with it some, you may be able to use less power if thats what you are going for.

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks i will mess with the ram quite a good bit

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Have not tried to overclock the ram as of yet, but plan to do so soon.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Also, the storage is as slow as you would expect for a mechanical drive but does its job well for a mechanical drive.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Update: was able to help dean get 15-15-15-35 timings at 2666 at stock voltages

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

One last thing for a 10$ pcie wifi card how good is it?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Works perfectly fine. Just be aware that it doesnt come with wifi antennas.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Also, after rereading your comment, it isnt a pcie wifi card. Its an m.2 wifi card.

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

How is the range on it? I'm seriously considering getting something like this for my friends' build that I am working. Something like this would save a valuable PCI-E slot on a mATX board.

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Considering it was going through two concrete floors with two ngff wifi antennas I had left over from a laptop with no noticeable lag or latency increase, its pretty decent at 2.4ghz. now, for 5ghz, your mileage may very

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks a lot Kadius. I'm going to go with this card then for my friends compy. Cheers.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build for the price, check Gigabyte's site for a BIOS update to allow overclocking on that CPU. If it's not out now then check every once in awhile as once it's OCed the performance bump is quite good.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

As of today the only motherboard brand that can overclock that particular cpu in the bios is MSI, but thanks for the advice.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm relatively new to PC building and was just wondering; Under what circumstances are BIOS updates required? And why are they?

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

There usually only recommended for CPU/Memory compatibility and stability if your getting BSOD's. I've also had to update the BIOS as my previous motherboard PCIE slot for whatever reason couldn't read my 550 ti's.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

So bios updates are normally required when you want to use a piece of hardware that was released after the motherboard was created, such as a new architecture for the processor, which means you need to flash the new bios to make the motherboard compatible with the new part, or if the bios has a security flaw, flashing the new bios most of the time will solve it. On occasion, bios' will be released that improve performance with certain hardware, such as the most recent bios update on the exact b450 gigabyte motherboard in this build, which unlocks the ability to overclock the athlon 200ge to 3.9ghz, cooling permiting, vs before where you could not overclock the chip on this motherboard.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Actually there's a few reports around that Gigabyte got MSI's memo and has VERY recently (like the last couple days) implemented overclocking support for the Athlon 200GE as well:

Video demonstration (not my video): https://youtu.be/OJaKeUKKN08

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

You can oc on gigabyte boards now

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

How does it game?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

So far have only tested Tarkov and csgo. Tarkov was geting near 70 fps with some drops into the 40's with some stutter (basically what the game is known for) and csgo we were well over 200 fps.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice to see another 200GE build :)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build but the Athlon 200ge is based on the Zen+ microarchitecture rather than the Zen2 that is yet to come soon (late Jan./Feb.) Apparently there will be some heavy IPC gains though so if the prices are good, I'd suggest an upgrade in the future.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

If I recall, it is actually Zen 1 like the 2200g and 2400g, and only has one cpu CCX on the die, with one of the CCX locations being taken up by the Vega integrated graphics. Relatively speaking, when overclocked to 3.9ghz, it performs similarly in some titles to the r3 1200 at stock speeds (from my personal experience).

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey dude do you reccomend that hdd you bought him? Its tempting fr

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, its actually not bad, and pretty decent price per gb. Cant tell you the long term ability of the drive, but its a seagate drive so its from a reputable brand

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Im looking to build a pc for my dad and it contains the same monitor you have. Can you tell me how it has served you so far and anything you don't like about it?

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Works really well. The freesync range works perfect for this cpu/gpu combo when capped at 75fps, its really good color wise and has really good viewing angles. You would be hard pressed to find a monitor of this quality for less.

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok, thanks for the help much appreciated.

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Ayyy i am getting the athlon or ryzen 3 and will get rx 579 later, does the cpu bottleneck ? When you play games like fortnite with unlocked framerate ? Any sttuter when oc’ed the cpu? Can u do streaming ? Can u do vegas pro and premiere pro?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

The 200ge does bottleneck in most titles before overclocking, but once its overclocked to 3.9ghz it is a significant uplift, near 30-40% in cpu bound titles.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Streaming IS possible, but only through using the integrated gpu for encoding, BUT only for 680p60 or 900p30 AT MOST and thats more upload speed and/or overall bitrate. As for premiere, it will run, but be unable to edit in real time for anything above 900p30 anyways. If you are able to get gpu acceleration set up, then you should have no issues.

Also, If you need any help with setup, you can email me at kadiusftw@gmail.com

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks and hopefully when i build i will ❤️

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

If you are wanting to know about use in premiere and Vegas (I have vegas pro 14) It is passable without gpu acceleration, but export times and scrubbing is a bit slow. It shoulf be more than cabable as a first time streaming/editing pc.

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Very nice build! Great for the price

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

This is not very ideal... the bottleneck I assume will be crazy bc of your dual core athlon. I suggest upgrading to either a Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200g soon to make your gameplay and overall the performance of ur pc better. Overall nice

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

No, actually its not bad. At 4.0ghz the cpu performs similarly to the 1200 at stock speed, and is far easier to cool. Ive done a lot of testing, and other than extremely cpu bound titles I have not seen a bottleneck as both the cpu and gpu normally sit around 100% usage

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Basically, with the ram set to extremely tight timings and at 2666, you can get past the missing l3 cache pretty easily. This cpu well outperforms the pentium g5400 when clocked that high, and only in titles like Tarkov are there stuttering issues that I can only assume are cpu cache issues sense Tarkov rarely uses more than four cores on my intel rig (but that may be due to how unoptimized the game is)

  • 4 months ago
  • 0 points

Lol that’s kind of surprising!! Any way I was just saying a good upgrade could be Ryzen 3 2200g or even the 2400g if you have the money which will allow u to use all the way up to a 1070 ti so it’s aGood upgrade path the am4 platform

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

No, I would fairly disagree. The 2200g is not a large step up in gaming or productivity from this processor, especially in terms of productivity uses. Being completely honest, it would be a better upgrade to go 1600 or 2600 than it would the 2200g (not going to even mention just how BAD the 2400g is for price to performance) you would only be paying about 50-60 dollars more just for those.

Now, to talk more loosely, the 3300 is a six core with hyperthreading and has been leaked multiple times at ~$100 price range with similar or better ipc to that of the i7 8700k, so as the name of this pc build implies, THERE IS ZERO REASON TO GO FOR A N Y OF THOSE UNTIL 3000 RELEASES IN FOUR WEEKS.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok then wait for the 3000 series to drop and it’s going to be on the am4 platform so those are also good choices

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

??? Four weeks? More like 3 months.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

No, multiple retailers have leaked parts and their release dates at this point, all of which point to the general region of 3 or 4 weeks

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm wanting to do a similar build for my wife. I didn't know about the Intel card. Do I need anything else for it before I order it?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

You will need to get an ngff set of antennas, as well as checking to see if your spacific motherboard is compatible with it.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

On a GPU, I ordered the Asrock 4gb when I meant to order the 8gb.. The difference is $10. You think refusing or RMAing the GPU is worth the extra 4gb?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Refunding would be the least expensive. But there is zero performance difference between the two, and it looks like you saved 10 bucks on the purchase, so personally I would just keep the 4gb model.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes but there's more you can do with 8gbs of vram. I wanted to keep the 4gb myself to not go with the hassle but IDK now. Also, how did you get the Athlon to 4ghz

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

With the fsb overclock to 107mhz and the cpu multi to 39 I was able to get a semi stable (crashed only under aida64) at 4.17ghz at 1.4v, but for the sanity of the person using it I ran it 1.38v which meant I was only able to get 4ghz at that voltage.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

When shopping warehouse deals they are really good. My Mobo and cpu were used from there. Just go very good or like new. Most times it's just box messed up but not the product.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Are you getting any frame dips? I was wanting to build a PC with an R3 and RX 570, but after seeing this I am not sure. How does the 200GE fare in Rainbow Six Siege?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Frame rate in R6 is consistent ~120 average with dips into the 90's on Ultra with TAA but only after overclocking. You need at least 3.8ghz on this cpu to make it ~stock R3 1200 performance. But one thing that is nice about this chip, is that it produces far less heat than the 1200, which makes overclocking even possible to 3.8 on the stock cooler (but seriously though, the stock cooler is TINY, I would suggest literally anything else)

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

But right now, you can pick up an r3 1200 for 74 bucks off of amazon, so that is far better of a price/performance, especially with overclocking.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Okay then I guess I'll try and buy a used Ryzen 3 1200, thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I was saying new There is one on amazon going for 74 usd

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't live in the US.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Then where do you live? I can help you find a deal in that area more than likely

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Dang man, that's a nice setup!! Thx for telling everybody that you can OC the 200GE with the mobo, I was worried... good luck in the future with what you got man.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, but this isnt my rig. This was built for a friend I see fairly consistently and help him with tuning on. The entire idea is that once zen 2 comes out he will likely upgrade to the 3300 or 3300x and do some overclocking on that, as that is theoretically a 5ghz capable six core (with some decent cooling of course)

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh I see, well in that case, tell your friend good luck with the upgradability path in the future from my part, I'm currently working on a rig with the Athlon 200GE, I've got a tight budget so upgrading my cpu won't be much of a possibility, but that's alright because, the gpu, including certain other parts that I'm upgrading with, will be just perfect for what I need.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

What gpu? Tbh I wouldnt put more than a Gtx 980 or rx 580 paired with this cpu even when overclocked because you will actually see loss in game stability and studdering from the cpu trying to catch up with the gpu's framerate. Only reason I know is because I let him borrow my vega 56 when I went for vacation and he said it performed worse with it in.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh really? I didn't know the RX 580 was that much of a bottleneck, because it was the gpu I was considering, I've been also considering a RX 570.The only reason I've been so dependent on this choice, was because I saw the benchmarks paired with the RX 570 and the RX 580 and they were pretty good honestly.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Its not a bottleneck, I was saying anything beyond that would be. Thats the edge of where I would pair that cpu when overclocked.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Also does amazon warehouse used components mean they are used or damaged?

  • 7 months ago
  • 3 points

no, typically the packaging is damaged so they cannot sell it as new. Sometimes the product is scuffed as well, but they list it clearly on the amazon warehouse items as to location and how far an item or box is damaged. I got an LG 34" freesync monitor for 200 a few years ago because the box was damaged and the monitor's base screws were missing. found screws at home depot and its basically brand new :)

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thats nice! I am from northern iraq so if ibuy something i cannot return it and im looking at these b350 high end motherboards 30$~ cheaper than being new from amazon warehouse idk if i should risk it. Im a student and a save every last $ man

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

when looking at the amazon warehouse item, it should say why its in their warehouse deals, i would just review it there.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

So if it says 'damaged packaging' or 'open box' or 'it will come in original packaging' it most likely is fine?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, the items themselves are likely fine in that case.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, if you do go b350 and want to go 200ge athlon, I would suggest geting an msi b350, because with the current bios you can overclock the athlon from 3.2ghz to 3.9 fairly easily.

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

I think asrock and gigabyte allow OC ing too as of now ! Awesome.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Also did you buy your keyboard used?

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

No, pcpartpicker.com just mislists the actual price. If you go to the amazon website it shows the product as 27 dollars, but pcpartpicker.com shows it as 47.