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-- Heavy Balance --

by har665

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160 Comments

Details

Date Published

May 2, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

3.5GHz

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.04GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

1.5GHz

Description

I haven't built a PC for nearly 20 years, and nothing like this. The main them for this build was balance. This build is primarily for gaming. I wanted to be able to play the latest and greatest without struggling and without breaking the bank. Parts were chosen based mainly on performance per dollar, but with consideration for looks, and practicality and longevity. It has been a learning experience. There was no hurry, I changed my mind on pretty much every piece over a couple of months before I committed, there are things I may have don't differently if after getting hands on, but I'm pretty happy with the result.

CPU i5 6600K - it was going to be an i5 6500 with a BCLK OC - when I saw that intel was going to be stingy, I made the hard choice to throw in the bit extra money and get the 6600K just in case they screwed it. I feel horrible for those who paid for a 6500 in order to use the BCLK. intel are jerks for that, but their CPUs tend to out do AMDs. I can OC to 4.6GHz but it takes a core voltage of 1.37V to do it. I've seen others get similar clock speeds with much lower voltages, but the Cinebench R15 score is 771 which is higher than any others I've seen at that speed.

Cooler Silverstone TD02-E This choice was mainly based on budget, it looks... fine ...for the price. it is not perfect - I don't care for the carbon fibre accents, carbon fibre only looks exotic on exotic things, but in this config you cant see them so whatever. I liked the idea of the different radiator configuration, it's solid, not over the top and even at 1.37V my CPU stays well and truly at comfortable temps. The stock fans.. 1500RPM minimum - why bother including fans if they need to be replaced anyway. the pump is practically silent, but those fans at even at idle were pretty loud. I wasn't gonna bother with aftermarket fans but they had to go! plenty of TIM included which is nice. The illuminated logo a bit too bright and unevenly lit.

Mobo ASROCK Z140 Extreme 4 ASROCK used to be a "low budget - high feature" range from ASUS. All the bells and whistles, but without all of that expensive quality! They're a separate entity now, and looks like the quality is pretty damn good now. This board does well, the switchable dual UEFI is simple enough and comprehensive enough to keep a novice like me entertained with, and you can mess with everything. It is a little clunky at times, but it's not a $500 board, it does the job well for me. The aesthetic is exactly what I wanted, clean, and not hell bent on some obnoxious colour scheme. It fills out the case nicely without trying to take over the show.

RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 8Gb 3000MHz (xmp) Skylake has been making good use of higher speed ram in gaming. Criteria was mainly speed and price. aesthetics to the point of being black and not too obnoxious, and I went low profile to save any chance of compatibility issues, which was lucky as the radiator clears them by about a layer of paint. I didn't know they required a kind of OC to run at 3000MHz (XMP profile) which was easy to do with the ASROCK, but I'm trying to pinpoint some "less than rare" system crashes, and this appears to be related, which is bad news for me. I'll keep this updated. update: compatibility issues were on the UEFI side. A Bios update from ASROCK seems to have solved the problem.

Storage Primary SSD OCZ 240Gb - Nothing crazy. Stores operating system and a few high use games. Secondary HDD Seagate 2Tb barracuda 7200rpm. cause ..yep.

Video Card Sapphire R9 390 Nitro 8Gb The R9 390 hits a pretty sweet spot on the price/performance slope. There are cheaper cards that still do OK for now, but the little extra spent on the GPU over the entire cost of the system will keep it relevant for a lot longer than going bare minimum. There are faster cards too, but by price; the returns diminish dramatically. option 2 was a GTX970, but for the same price the 390 just performs a little chunk better most of the time. Stock clock is 1040, I can squeeze 1120 without anomalies, but it's not a big gain and requires a bit of overvolt. The card is MASSIVE with 3 fans, but it never goes above about 50% fan speed and is fairly quiet. it keeps on the happy side of 75Deg C most of the time. Performance even at stock is great. I went with the Sapphire because I didn't want a red/black theme, and the Gigabyte (my original preference) is reportedly noisy. Sag is controlled very well as you can see, simply by lifting the tail a bit before tightening the slot screws. There are no obnoxious lights or colours and the card is nice to look at.

Case Corsair Carbide 400c Cases are a hard choice. Wife chose this. What a GREAT case to build in. The door is brilliant - I use it all the time; for no reason! No shortage of airflow - though you CAN hear that. The included case fans (a 120 and 140) are quite good for stock fans - I'm keeping them for now. Although the front is designed for 2x140 or 3x120, I'm actually using 2x120 and a 140 (one of each are the stock fans). The grommets seem a little far from the ATX board at first, but it just means cables don't have to turn hard. I've left the basement separator out because the cable routing and the EVGA power cables and PSU look nicer than the separator that just doesn't really look right, and is a bit tight with the motherboard. I wanted a tidy build and the 400C made that very achievable - Note: You will see Nitto (Duct tape) featured throughout the case. Corsair provide extensive cable routing options in this case. a bit more than I want so the tape just hides a lot of holes and keeps it a little cleaner looking.

PSU EVGA superNOVA NEX 650W 80+ gold This was a compromise - I wanted braided wires, but could only get the bitfenix in a 550W at the time, I settled with the EVGA. the cables are braided in bunches instead of individually but in the end I'm glad I went this way. The cables are perfect in this build! 650W seems a little fine for an AMD build (750 was not available), but it's fine. the whole system only seems to pull about 400-450 W from the wall. The EVGA is not quiet. the fan runs at a single speed and makes up the bulk of the idle case noise. It gets drowned out under load, but I'm still going to look at changing the fan or at least dropping the voltage.

Case fans I didn't get these till after hearing the Silverstone radiator fans, I wasn't going to spend this much on case fans either. They were an impulse purchase in store at MSY. I got a 3pk and a single (their entire stock) which was kind of stupid, I really need 2 more to finish the build properly and they are sold as 1 or 3 (1 is expensive) I didn't think that through. They don't keep with the original "subtle" style either. but they're quiet, have a great range (400-1500rpm) and include an RGB and speed (high/low) controller and are PWM. The RGB provides options. All the cables are wrapped nicely, but for some reason there are exposed coloured wires on the fan chassis on diagonal corners so no matter which way you put them you can see these little rainbow wires. a bit silly.

Results: Cinebench R15 benchmarks CPU: Stock 605 (no XMP profile on RAM) Stock 654 (XMP on ram 3000MHz) OC 4.6 771 (with XMP)

GPU: all stock 127fps (no XMP on RAM) Stock 150fps CPU OC 165fps CPU OC+1140Mhz 172fps

Thanks to SCORPTEC in Melbourne - a front panel cable was faulty in the case, they sent me a new one (no RMA) Thankyou for making a small issue a non issues

playing games is fun

Part Reviews

Power Supply

The cables supplied look great. In my opinion they look tidier and less bulky than individually sleeved wires and are much easier to manage. Everything is clean and subtle. The fan is on WAY too hard. At full load the PSU doesnt even feel warm it is cooled so "well"; however, the fan runs at a constant speed and while there is no apparent motor niose, there is a lot of wind noise. A lot! Apparently the NEX (G1) is the worst of the evga psu fans, and while i will recommend EVGA as a brand and the aesthetics are on point, i do not reccomend this specific model. Look for anything other than 1st gen. As a rough guide for you, the noise measured near the psu intake is roughly 10-12dB higher than any other part of my PC at idle, and only starts to get drowned out under full gpu load.

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Phillip.Phillip 25 points 18 months ago

flags because the pictures look better than self.

+1

joelhowell 7 points 18 months ago

I love how the staff just delete comments

har665 submitter 1 Build 5 points 18 months ago

You mean the pics look better than the machine in real life? Ha! Yeah they do :)

har665 submitter 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

I really want to know what the deleted comments were. I bet it was funny.

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gorkti200 2 Builds 4 points 18 months ago

Super sexy build, great job. Love the purple lighting, it's clean, cable management is great. Awesome!

The door is brilliant - I use it all the time; for no reason!

No reason is best reason.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Haha cheers!

SmartWolf 4 points 18 months ago

So yet another build in 400c with ATX mobo and top mounted AIO 2fan radiator (tho not 240?).
Reportedly this is not possible or at least supported, but actual builds are indication that can indeed be done. I am VERY encouraged indeed!

This then would likely be my build 400c, ASUS ATX, top mount 240 AIO, etc.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

yeah, it's an easy fit (it is 240 rad in the top) - just watch your RAM, the heat spreader on this corsair ram is only about 3mm higher than the RAM PCB - and it's a close fit. There is room for 2x 140 fans, but not a 280 radiator. it would come down too far.

Aceboyz 4 points 18 months ago

That cable management can easily land you in a win in booted :3

if only there was an mid-tier booted season

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

It's no where near as clean as some custom builds, but I appreciate that. it was most of the build time - The EVGA cables already looked great and the rest was a few touch ups with heat shrink, and just some trail and error. you make me want to put in more effort :)

Aceboyz 2 points 18 months ago

It's already good as it is. But if you do want to put in "more effort" cable extensions will give it a 6/5 wow factor XD

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

cheers! That was the original plan, but i'm actually starting to prefer the simpler look of these now.

murad1985 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

Beautiful build and kudos for great research on the parts you put here. My only comment would be on the RAM choice. I guess 8gb is enough for gaming, but I would have gone with at least 16gb, tho I live by the rule that there's no such thing as "enough RAM". Especially since nowadays the price point is not much of an issue.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Yep, my budget was strictly capped, so I invested that ($au100) elsewhere initially. But it will be bumped up in the near future.

Airplane505 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

Awesome build! +1 I have a few questions:

  1. On a scale of 1/10, how is cable management in the 400C

  2. Is it easy to mount a 240mm raidiator on the case?

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

I only have other reviews to compare for ease of management, but before all of the extra fans there was only a very small number of cables in sight, even on the back. The entire perimeter on the back side has a lip about 2cm deep which you can hide a lot in. There are a lot of pass through holes (i trapped over some cause i didn't need them). Some are a bit tight, 8pin mobo, and the holes for sata and audio at the base of the mobo are a squeez. The way i have the cables at the base of the mobo; the basement seperator pretty much doesn't fit, but i prefer it out anyway. Ssd rack in the back is removed in mine too. All of the psu cables are routed through the HDD rack, but since the bottom rack only has ssd it fits fine and looks neat. The hdd rack is moved forward too (adjustable). 240 fits fine in the top or front as you prefer. If you want push+pull or 280 its fine in the front only.

TDBN 1 Build 3 points 19 months ago

More pic please and +1 for solid build.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 19 months ago

cheers - more pics!

OccamAsylum 10 Builds 3 points 19 months ago

You really can't go wrong with those fans. I mean look at em! BRILLIANT.

mb67 5 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

This is very nicely done! :-)

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Cheers!

krakthecap 2 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

This is a great looking build for the money. +1

bobby567 3 points 18 months ago

This right here is what I call perfection!

1+

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Aw shucks, thanks bobby.

Gooberdad 7 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Congrats on getting your build featured.

Thumbs up

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks, i didn't know it was til you mentioned it! Cheers

Sentinel3.14 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Wow! I love this Build! Great Job!

lorenzog.music 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Amazing build. Very well thought through.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Thanks, credit to a lot of good reviewers or there making useful information so accessible.

Kingofstudents 3 points 18 months ago

This is nice

GoodGamingPC 23 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

That CPU cooler is stunning +1

msquare 4 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Thats one beautiful PC +1 for clean look.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

cheers appreciated :)

Khaosix 19 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Picture game on point.

+1

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

thanks

MarshmellowMan2 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

You may not, but I really like that AIO. P neat

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

cheers, I don't dislike it, the pump is near silent and it does a great job of cooling - The carbon fibre trim (l love CF when it's used for purpose; just not decoration) is removable, so I shouldn't whinge about that. The only way I would have it improved is the logo lighting (it looks great in the photos, but in reality is really bright and fairly patchy (like there are 3 distinct LEDs stuck behind it in a random arrangement) and the fans were obscenely loud. But out of all the AIOs I looked at this one stood out. and still does :)

tzerv 3 points 18 months ago

That thing is ******* beautiful man. Great work. +1 internets to you my good sir.

har665 submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Thanks; i love internets!

FHD32423 3 points 18 months ago

Move that cat to the left a bit and this build will be heavier balanced :)

+1

Rajenator 3 points 18 months ago

+1 for the Cat. Great build!

LittleL0L 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Awesome build! Great work on the color scheme, yet congrats for being featured!

How's the fans working out for ya? I'm using the 140mm red version from thermaltake on my build also, good stuff isn't it? :D

+1

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

They were a "nothing else available" impulse buy, i didn't trust Tt. These have really proved my preconceptions totally wrong. Good, quiet and pretty. I'm sure you're liking yours.

LittleL0L 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Definitely liking mines, running 3 of them at full speed and not good enough to distinct a noise difference xD

Hydraulic bearings FTW

Trentis 3 points 18 months ago

Beautiful build,you just convinced me to use this case for my upcoming Skylake build.

+1 to you Sir!

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks! it's a treat to build in. apart from what's mentioned in the description, lighting options are limited if you're into that. LED strips are pretty much out of the question. but have fun!

soldfunk 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Loverly

+1

The_Confused_first_timer 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

+1 Meow

DomPCbuilds 2 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Nice system man. I really like what you did with the thermaltake fans, the system wouldn't look the same with out them.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

You're not wrong! I cant claim any skill on that choice - I would not have ever gotten them if MSY had Corsair AF/SP pros in stock - man did that work out good!

AminNausin 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

u shoulda waited mann u shoulda gotten a 1070 mann

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

haha, ain't it always the case! it's all good, by the time the 390 is on struggle street, I'll be able to replace it with a 1370 ;)

boatyo 3 points 18 months ago

Meanwhile flagged on an AMD computer for awesomeness.

lel no +1 for sexy intel build; I have intel too

IMSOLOST420 3 points 18 months ago

wow we almost have the same build. After seeing this i really want that case and fans. great build

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 17 months ago

cheers! the fans look a little brighter and cleaner in the photos, but the case was a joy to work in

Jeffhut05 3 points 18 months ago

The LED's in the fans look sick! +1

BatDoctor27 3 points 17 months ago

That cable management though! So clean! Great looking build, I might have to get those fans for my 400C as well. I'd probably add an RGB lighting strip along the bottom at least to even out the lighting.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

thankyou! I got a couple of cheap LED strips ($2 automotive ones) to trial. the 400C really doesn't accommodate light strips very well since there's no where to really hide them except right up the top or bottom, then everything pretty much sits in the shadow of the radiator or PSU. but... I could move the radiator to the front - then the fans would match and lights could be put in the top... hmmm. cheers

ol 3 points 12 months ago

Epic build Bro, simply awesome. I can see why this is a featured build.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

Thanks!

dylanxharrison 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

How are your fans so bright? I have the white LED Riing fan for an exhaust and it barely lights up it's surroundings.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

those fans really aren't as bright as they look in the photos. those photos were taken with a long exposure in low light. Not in any effort to be deceptive, I just wanted to take nice photos. as it sits next to me under full light, the reflections on the side panel are about as bright as the lights inside :(

dylanxharrison 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

I guess that's both good news and bad news then lol. I was worried maybe my fan wasn't getting enough power or something, or maybe I had it hooked up wrong. Thanks for the reply though. I'm debating whether or not I wanna buy 4 more (2 for rad, 2 for top vent) or just get the Corsair SP fans with the white strip around the fan, and light up the inside with an led strip.

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

both would look good. you would expect these fans to be brighter for the price

dylanxharrison 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah right? Most likely going with those Corsair fans. Wanna save up a tad more since all the fans I want/need cost 100+ dollars alone lol. Upgrading my mobo and cpu as well.

dylanxharrison 1 Build 3 points 6 months ago

Also, nice build! I have that case as well.

Ryuhara 2 points 19 months ago

Very nice looking build! +1 for purple LEDS, but MORE PICTURES PLEASE.

Overall, very nice build. I saw in the comments you were thinking about getting an EVGA G2. I have one myself and would definitely recommend it! So far I haven't heard the fan at all. I'm not sure if it's dead quiet or the fan just doesn't turn on at all.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 19 months ago

Thanks, Wasn't me... but I am now.

Ryuhara 2 points 19 months ago

Whoaaaaaa! Your build looks beautiful. I love pictures 10 and 19. Also great cable management! Something about all those loops and curves makes me happy.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Cheers, before the extra fans there was barely a cable in sight, everything is stock length, so there was plenty of trial and error. The case is well thought out though which makes things easier.

Someone0011 2 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

I love the build and those fans are dope with i had some.

ALDJ0922 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

the cat must add some extra speed to your CPU and GPU.

Love the build! It looks sooo pretty :D Grats on being featured!

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

Thanks, nice surprise! That pc gets all the p*ssy!

texasmayne 4 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

I could look at those fans all day. My 1yr old son is always going to my computer and puts his face on the top exhaust fans

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

I have to confess they look a bit better in the pics than they really do. But thanks; your son and my cat may be related.

Daiphelion 2 points 18 months ago

+9000 Personal Cat Master Race in pic 21 ;)

I have to admit, I do love those Thermaltake fans

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

She's a camera *****! The fans were a happy mistake! All i could get, any i had an idea that Tt were a cheap crappy brand. But they are great. Cool, quiet and pretty, it's really made the build.

DeadSpirit 2 points 18 months ago

Can i fit a push an pull layout and gpu(312mm) in this particular case?(probably not). Is it loud with so many fans? Thanks!

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

I'll measure that up for ya tonight. It's actually quieter with all the fans. They're running much slower to get the same air. That being said this case is very open, to the point where door open/closed make little to no difference to noise. If you're going to build in this and want a quiet build, you'll have to make sure you have quiet parts. This set up is FAIRLY quiet. I would recommend a quieter PSU. Others have recommended G2

DeadSpirit 2 points 18 months ago

For the PSU, i'll probably go with the CoolerMaster V-Series V750 Gold, not sure if it's quite or not! :P Any ideas for a good motherboard with 1151 socket? Im between MSI H170 Gaming M3 and Asus Z170-P. Any suggestions? I'll just list the specs that i'll probably go with and if anyone got any suggestions feel free to comment!

Cooling: CoolerMaster Nepton 240M GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX970 4GB G1 Gaming Ram: HyperX Fury 16GB DDR4-2400MHz(2x8) CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB Case: NZXT Phantom 530

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

from the front panel to the end of my GPU is 70mm. don't have the specs with me but most manufacturers measure from different points anyway. the sapphire is long and push pull on front would be very hard unless you have a 20mm radiator. You could fit push pull at the top but you'd want low ram and the actual rad could mot be over 120mm. you'd cover up some of the CPU area and you couldn't have high heat sinks on the VRM. if you had a shorter GPU you could push pull easily in the front.

MasterShock 2 points 18 months ago

some more things i cant afford

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

if it makes you feel any better, I had to sell things!

ConnorVey 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

How are those thermal take fans? I was thinking of getting some. Do they give you good temps?

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

I haven't been chasing the ultimate in low temps, if you're after numbers you may have to check for youtube comparisons. but in a nutshell, my 4.6Ghz OC seems to be limited by physical constraints of the CPU (transistor slew rates, maybe RF) as high as I have to push Core voltage to get there, it's not thermals holding me back, these fans haven't seen me go anywhere near uncomfortable temps, and they aren't hitting full speed to maintain that. one thing I will say is the RGB lighting is not as consistent as the pictures look. there is a bit of separated colours in it. but they keep pretty quiet while the do it

ConnorVey 3 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Really useful information. I appreciate it. I'll probably go with them.

Thefan630 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

That keyboard though

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

haha, yeah. it's also hooked up to a TV. peripherals to come when I stop being poor

iamwilso 2 points 18 months ago

Nice build sir! Still trying to figure out how a challenged individual like yourself pulled this off lol ;) Bring on BF5!!!! Its gonna be on...

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

haha, me do komputer wif bits and derp bler.. daaaaaa..... ohhh I pooped my pant :(

asmodeus208 2 points 18 months ago

+1 awesome build and awesome cat

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Haha cheers, she gets all of the attention.

diGriz_Z 2 points 18 months ago

Name of keyboard?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

"Larry the keyboard"

akiradice 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

+1 for the cute cat

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 18 months ago

She's scored the build quite a few points now. I might have to incorporate her somehow. Intake filter maybe?

Tooth 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

very nice with your blue highlights and theme color. But my fav color is blue!!

I like your case. Guess I never noticed it was a see through entire side window. When you open the case, is it connected to the case, or you have to remove the side?

Think I will consider something like your case for an upcoming build I am helping out on :)

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

G'day Tooth. The majority of the pictures are with the door off. The door is simple a latch at the front and lift-off hinges at the back - so open the door and lift and it comes straight off. The door is a full clear panel apart from about a 40mm strip at the top and bottom. jump on youtube, there are heaps of reviews. hope that helps

Maxxoz 2 points 18 months ago

Intel did what? Because I wanted to oc my 6400 on a Z170 MoBo on a future build, but now i'm concerned. What is there going on with non-k skylake oc-ing?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Last I heard (this was a few months ago) intel were releasing micro updates for those BIOS that allowed BCLK in order to close that door. I cant say for certain weather they achieved that, I was under the impression that it happened, but, I stoped looking into it when I ordered the K CPU. So you'll probably know more about that than me.

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Maxxoz 2 points 18 months ago

Hmm. I have seen a post on about non-k skylake oc-ing on a Z170 board. This is the link to the post on overclocking.guide . The thing is that you downgrade the BIOS version to one that includes Z non-k skylake oc-ing. I have seen multiple videos about them, by HardwareUnboxed and Science Studio (not too well known youtube channels), and it seems to work. Because i will oc my future i5 6400!

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Maxxoz 2 points 18 months ago

So... if i'm going to buy a ASRock board i don't have to downgrade the BIOS?

BTW won't be replying until tomorrow in the Netherlands, its pretty late here already ;)

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Enigma.6ix 2 points 18 months ago

cool pc build!!!!!!love the fans especially. one question though, what brand is that keyboard?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

thanks! Lol, The Keyboard is a $15 OfficeOne from K-mart - came with a wireless mouse included. It's just something I was using in the lounge room fro media.

Enigma.6ix 2 points 18 months ago

oh thanks for replying

hyperlystic 2 points 18 months ago

I know its off topic but do you know if the CPU cooler will work with FM2+?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

according to the manual it's compatible with AMD sockets: AM2/AM3/FM1/FM2. FM2+ is not specified, however according to PCPP and the distributors of this cooler; it IS compatible with FM2+. I know the pin configuration is a bit different on the FM2+ but I don't see any reason they would have changed the cooler socket config.

hyperlystic 3 points 18 months ago

Thankyou

Zman123 2 Builds 2 points 17 months ago

How much clearance for you have with that rad. I wanted to use a similar configuration with the h100i gtx, which is slightly larger than the Silverstone TD02-E.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

thicker or wider? it could come down another 30mm before interfering with the CPU block. if it is wider ; the radiator itself should be fine, in this config the RAM just low enough to fit between the fan and mobo, if the radiator were wider (within reason 120mm) it should still be fine as long as the fans are normal 120 size

Zman123 2 Builds 2 points 17 months ago

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your help.

Reprisalgaming 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

Would you recommend this case for a first time builder?

har665 submitter 1 Build 3 points 15 months ago

If it suits your taste, go for it. easy to build in, plenty of options, and space. You cant hide anything, so a little effort is recommended for cable management. but this may as well be a first build for me, and I enjoyed using this case. to note: The door is slightly tinted, so the inside takes a bit to light up. there is no where to hide LED strips. the lighting on mine is a bit more subtle than in the photos

Reprisalgaming 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

I planned on using led strips to darn it. So i have to buy that hue thing?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

if you don't mind being able to directly see the LED strips, then you're fine. as it is: if you put them in the bottom, most of the inside will be in the shadow of the basement shroud (or PSU and HDD in my case) if you have a radiator in the top like mine it will block most of the light from a top mounted strip. you can completely see the rear edge of the door so you cant hide them at the back, if you put a strip in the front the fans will block most of the light. I put a couple of cheap automotive strips in just to have a look, and it is possible to hide LED strips, but if you want internal bling with this case, you're best off with lighting that is designed to be seen (like fans). hope that's helpful

Reprisalgaming 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

It was thanks!

Reprisalgaming 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

I have the same case is 5 fans enough?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

yeah, there's a great video on linus tech tips about how many case fans you need to control temps, pretty much very diminished results after 2 or 3, but having extra enables you to play with things like positive pressure to keep out dust and you can slow them all down to reduce noise. but as you know this case has better air flow than most, so 5 is plenty

Reprisalgaming 1 Build 3 points 14 months ago

Wow thanks for being informative! I appreciate it

ImperiousBattlestar 2 points 13 months ago

Nice build. I'm from Australia as well, +1 :)

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

cheers. what part?

ImperiousBattlestar 3 points 13 months ago

I'm from NSW

Fr33Th1nk3r 4 Builds 2 points 9 months ago

Upvoted for cat

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 9 months ago

haha cheers!

KevinM9 2 points 8 months ago

How well would a rig like this run WoW, GTA5, Total War (Warhammer, Attila, and Rome II and whatever is coming next), perhaps Mass Effect Andromeda or Star Citizen as well? I've been out of PC gaming for a while and instead of modifying my out of date laptop (which can only run WoW and Total War on the lowest possible settings) I figured its better to just build a new desktop. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to check my saved parts lists and give me any insight, thanks.

_HIred_ 2 points 5 months ago

a bit late but why remove the psu shroud?

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 5 months ago

:) With the front panel cables routed around the bottom edge of the motherboard; it was too tight a squeeze. The shroud sits just barely below an ATX board. It would be easy to modify, but I liked the look anyway. the shroud also only covers part of the HDD rack.

Asus_nipeR619 0 points 18 months ago

Decent overkill for 2020 games, have fun............ (I WANNA CRUSH THAT THING! >:C) :)

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

WTF? hahaha! !

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Squishbean1 2 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

Yeah, all they need now are more pictures. I want to see different angles of it, it looks very neatly done.

Speaking of the PSU, why do people complain about it? Have people just had bad experiences with it?

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Squishbean1 2 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

How are the G2 series?

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Squishbean1 2 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

Okay. I was considering replacing the 650 G PSU with the 750 G2 PSU, but I wasn't sure if it was worth it or not.

Soldiershak 2 points 18 months ago

Haha "Can't go wrong with them". I just had two G2 750w's die on me within 2 months of building my PC. It took 3 weeks for each to die, the first just died without reason, the second started emitting white smoke and then something blew up inside of it. I'm wary of EVGA PSUs now...

MarshmellowMan2 1 Build -6 points 18 months ago

not every psu needs to be a platinum seasonic smh

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 19 months ago

yeah, haha noted! Thanks. I thought EVGA would be one of the better brands, but I've been out of the loop for a while.

MrMoose88 5 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Its not that EVGA is a bad brand, its still one of the best brands for pc parts in my opinion. Its just that you bought one of their lower quality power supplies which is based on a mediocre platform. Id recommend changing it out with a G2/P2/T2 psu from EVGA, especially since you have a power hungry amd card.

PacificNic 4 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

In reality, OP will probably be 100% okay. The "power hungry" AMD card only really needs high power under high loads and even then, because he only has one GPU, he will probably rarely - if ever - approach the power limit of the PSU.

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks, i wish I'd looked further into it. It still seems to do the job, but I'm gonna look at fixing the fan

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Haha yeah, lesson learned. It does seem to have a bad rep. Other than a loudish fan though, it seems to work fine. That's one part i didn't research thoroughly

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Wow thanks. Planning was the biggest part, and all thanks to others on this site for inspiration and information.

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Cheers! I'll check it out.

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Cheers panda! It wasn't a phone ;) cheap DSLR on a tripod. Low light, long exposure (up to 5 seconds for some) tbh it does look more impressive in the pics.

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

It's a Canon 550D (i think the current one out is a750D?). I had some nice lenses for it but i sold them to pay for the PC! This is just the basic kit lenses used here 18-55 & 55-250mm and i think a couple were 50mm f1.8 (If you get a dslr make sure you get a 50xf1.8 at some stage > $100 and so useful.

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks!

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks Wewum. That's been a chorus response, I cant really find too much issue with nex apart from being a little high on the fan speed & it doesn't have some new features. I was hunting through what was available on PCPP and I guess the G2 wasn't coming up in Australia - I wasn't even aware that EVGA had different models of the same line. I'll know for next time :)

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 19 months ago

ah... of course, more pictures sir!

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

It was easy to build in and looks really good, has pretty much unrestricted air flow. Does nothing to stop sound (open / closed door makes no difference). The 140 in the front of mine is only mounted with the top screws on the fan. Doubt you could squeeze another one in. I'll sus it out tonight

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har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

I have it next to my head, the stock case fans are very quiet. The stock fans for the Silverstone cooler are LOUD. The PSU fan noise is obvious but not terrible

har665 submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

just checked, 2x 120 and 1x140 is the absolute max limit

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har665 submitter 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

Latest Fur-Mark version

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maddog62 3 points 18 months ago

I taut I saw a puddy cat!

TechyinAZ 14 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Cat powa!!! :D