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2018 I set out to build a system with tons of cores in the smallest case possible. I ended up building in a Sliger Cerberus 18.5L mATX case with a X399M and Threadripper 2950X 16 core processor. I went through probably 3-4 iterations of that build trying to properly cool down the 2950X. When Ryzen 9 was announced last summer the idea of essentially having a faster 2920X-2950X but on a consumer platform really intrigued me so this fall I sold my Threadripper parts and my Sliger Cerberus case to downsize even further.

For me the perfect case for the Ryzen 9 series is the NCase M1 or the Sliger SM 570/580 series. I ended up pursuing the NCase M1 since it is the smallest (12.9L) case that supports full sized 3 slot graphics cards. I also picked the NCase M1 because to my knowledge it is the smallest case that can fit the Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact DTX board as well. The problem was I totally missed NCase's pre-orders for the V6 and even secondhand V5 were very hard to come by. I ended up buying a new in box V6 off Ebay for $350, which by every means is way too much but considering the next shipment of NCases aren't due until 2020 I had very few alternatives. I did rationalize the purchase with the fact that I sold my Cerberus case for $200.

The case I received didn't have any cosmetic issues but had some noticeable panel gaps. Usually this would be something I would go back to the vendor and complain about but since I bought the item off Ebay I really had no way to fix this. I did bring this up with the seller and they continued to point out that it was new in box. Either way the case is awesome and the small changes really add up to the best NCase M1 yet. Some notable improvements for me are the feet that were designed by Optimumtech, the removable front IO panel, improved vented panels, and improved radiator and fan support on the bottom of the case.

The Impact board is an amazing board and hands down the best small form factor X570 board out there but at $430 it's not for everyone and quite frankly I probably should have just gotten the ROG STRIX X570i at almost $200 cheaper. I wanted a good performing AIO with RGB so I went with the H100i RGB Platinum and while it's a good AIO the software is total crap and constantly connects and disconnects. I don't use Corsair's software or have the AIO plugged into a USB header essentially having my pump run at 100% all the time and the fans constantly spewing rainbow puke. When I first started this build the 3950X was delayed so I decided to go with the 3900X. Long story short but due to a shipping error I got my 3900X for free which made my decision to upgrade to the 3950X a no brainer.

The 3950X went on sale on 11-25 and I actually woke up at 3 am and 6 am to try and buy one online but nothing was posted yet. On the 25th before 9 am I went on MicroCenter's website and saw I could reserve a 3950X for MSRP to pick up in store and about an hour later my order was confirmed. I consider myself extremely lucky since NewEgg, Amazon, B&H Photo, and even Microcenter sold out within seconds.

I haven't done much testing but the chip idles around 42 degrees and gaming at 3440x1440 at Ultra the chip runs at 50-60 degrees. AMD recommends a 280mm AIO for the 3950X but I have had no problem running it with a 240mm AIO.

In the end I highly recommend Ryzen 9, either the 3900X or the 3950X since both are essentially cheaper, cooler, and faster 2920X-2950X from last year and can be put into some really small cases.

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  • 3 months ago
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love this

  • 3 months ago
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that is one smol boi

  • 3 months ago
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how loud is this thing?

  • 3 months ago
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idle dead silent besides the pump. When gaming the ML120 RGB fans get loud but not obnoxious. I have debated switching back to some Noctua A12X25 but then I would loose the RGB

  • 2 months ago
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Switched to my Noctua A12X25 and the system is much quieter when gaming. While people like Optimumtech has stated having the fans on the inside of the AIO as pull work the best I found that increases GPU temps +4 degrees. With the fans on the inside as push the CPU is hotter +5 degrees but still runs sub 60 degrees while gaming while keeping the GPU at 69-70 degrees.

  • 3 months ago
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That is a litty setup

  • 3 months ago
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Beauty build! Spared no expense.

  • 3 months ago
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expensive sure but the sale of my Threadripper parts, Sliger Cerberus case, receiving a free 3900X and selling that helped offset this build. Out of pocket it was sub $250 said and done

  • 2 months ago
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Thanks so much for posting! Between this and the OptimumTech build, this is pretty much exactly what I'm trying to go for by the end of the year!

Couple questions:

  1. Where'd you hear about the NCase being due until 2020?

  2. How/where'd you purchase feet designed by OptimumTech?

  3. Why do you say:

    quite frankly I probably should have just gotten the ROG STRIX X570i at almost $200 cheaper.

  4. I see your CPU cooler and your comment about switching to Noctua A12X25. How is that going for you? Any new recommendations since you made the switch? What's your current cooling set up and temps?

Awesome build and thanks again for sharing!

  • 2 months ago
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On SFF.Network it was mentioned 2020

NCase used OptimumTech's feet design for the V6

The performance is nearly identical for the Impact and the STRIX X570-I, obviously the Impact has some more high end features but not IMO worth near $200, plus the STRIX will fit in more ITX cases

Switched to to the A12X25 and they perform just as good as the ML120 RGB Pros but as lower speeds while being much quieter. Obviously Noctua's are a weird unique brown and lack RGB