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BowHunter

by Eltech

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118 Comments

Details

Date Published

Sept. 15, 2015

Date Built

Sept. 1, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

3.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

28.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

54.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.304 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7.01 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

20.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

54.0° C

Description

  • The master of bow hunter has arrived. It is silent but deadly... Wait, am I still talking about computers? Oh... I'm thinking of something else. And my father called it, but I think some of us may know why without the need of explanation. The build itself cost a total of $918.26.

  • This ITX is for my father but I wanted to keep it cool, compact, quiet and powerful enough at the same time. His major purposes for this build is using MS Office, Netflix, games, video and photo editing. He's been needing a computer to handle some basic photo and video editing lately so this should be able to handle it.

  • This build would have been done a lot sooner but, such as life, unexpected events occurred. Plus I had to swap out two fans, which I will explain about it later. Of course, I'm guilty of rambling on so you have my permission to skim read on what you want.

  • The first 20 photos shows the final results. You can ignore the rest if you want to. However, the ones after photo #20 will show the process of what was worked on, changing parts or displaying certain angles of the case, and its parts. Photos 102 and 103 is an update of fixing the I/O shield.

Two cents is below here:

CPU

Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

  • Now I could have went for an i7 but for what my father does, it's not a major need at this point. It's not like he is working with intensive programs that requires it. He just needed a processor that could handle making and edifying family videos and slide shows to display family photos. Heck I used to work with an intel dual-core before with such things, so I'm pretty sure this processor will be better. The K model was avoided for one reason, there was no need for overclocking.

  • It does automatically turbo boost, and yes I did test it before with it on and off. I found it very interesting... Seeing the results, you think turbo boost off would make a lot of heat? Ironically not so much because there is about a 3 - 5°C difference. I'm saying it runs a tad more hot when turbo is on but not by much.

  • Currently Turbo Boost is OFF. If ON, it will turbo boost to 3.9GHz.

  • However, I think this processor is amazing for what it does. If I was comparing it with another 4 core, it's outstanding. However, there are older versions of the i5 if your budget is tighter then how this build was. The budget had to remain around 1k, not go pass $1,050. In the end result, it worked out pleasantly.


Motherboard

MSI H81I Mini ITX LGA1150

  • BIOS is updated to A.6. A.5 wasn't properly reading the processor's GHz until it was updated. The layout seemed OK until the positions of the SATA connectors and the USB 3.0 connector made it difficult with a PSU above it. When I swapped out the fans, I had to disconnect these cables very often.

  • Now since I mentioned about having to replace fans, why? It is because of this type of motherboard. MSI only allows proper fan calibration with 4-pin fans when using the system fan connectors.

  • If one has 3-pin fans, beware! Your fans will be at the maximum RPM. Hence forth my reason to switch to 4-pin fans with a 2-way 4-pin splitter. And keep this too in mind, MSI cranks 4-pin case fans at 50% as minimum RPM. 25% is the minimum for the CPU fan.

  • It doesn't allow control with 3-pin fans connectors since it only maxes them out. I heard a 2,000~ RPM Rosewell fan cranked so high that it became impossible to tolerate a jet engine. With the new 4-pin case fans installed, they only run at 938 RPM. Quieter and much better.

  • I do admit, that I was very disappointed about the case fans being at full speed and incapable to alter it. My fault for not double checking with this type of MOBO but now I know. Still, it is a let down on my end since all the Gigabyte motherboards that I have worked with in the past, allows fan calibrations for both 3-pin and 4-pin case fans. Just be aware of MSI for this but it doesn't mean it's a horrible board, plus I didn't have any issue with the CPU heatsink, so... I have been spoiled with Gigabyte it seems.


Fans

Noctua NF-R8 redux-1800 PWM 80mm & LEPA LP-BOL12P-BL 120mm

  • The Noctua NF-R8 was pretty impressive for sound wise and still pulled out plenty of heat away. Of course, I had to sacrifice the original placement holder for the thinner 80mm CM case fan. I think most of the fans I intended to grab were dimensional to large anyway so I stuck with a more quiet fan yet effective at the same time. So be aware of this too when working with the Elite 130 CM case if intending to replace the 80mm fan. I had used two zip-ties to hold down the fan onto the case.

  • The LEPA fan, wow, I was surprised! Not as bright as it gives a soft glow of blue, unlike the LED Rosewell but I think it's for the best. It's not so loud either when it cranks, which is what I was looking for. I do want fans to work when need be but not like a jet engine either. Also the cord is sleeved, and quite long so I had a bit of extra slack but nothing to worry about.


CPU Cooler

Rosewill RCX-Z90-CP 62.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

  • So I'm officially able to express about this cooler, despite I had worked with it much earlier. It works well and isn't too loud unless you had to let it crank hard early for whatever reason. Sounds audible around 1350 RPM or more but not too annoying. I was more concern about temps but for what this processor does, it's doing good.

  • Valley Benckmark was the result of temps. As long it doesn't hit 72 Celsius, there isn't much to be concerned about. I haven't seen it pass 61 at all. Of course, this was turbo boost being ON, so I wonder if it's part of the reason. Tested it with Turbo Boost OFF and keeping it this way. Stays around 51~54 Celsius with Valley Benchmark.

  • Is it better then an intel stockfan? Maybe, but I have seen worse before with a 4 core processor. Doing internet, Netflix, and Office tasks are averaged at 30~38°C. With a game that is CPU intensive, ranged between 53-61°C when Turbo is ON.

  • For this type of CPU fan that is cramped up and isn't fancy. I'm surprised, and impressed with it.


Memory

Team Dark 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

  • So this RAM is pretty cool looking. Lifetime warranty and runs smooth so far. At the time, this was a good deal so if you get one too, it should be cheaper by now. One thing to be aware of, you will need to adjust the frequency from the BIOS. It is not an easy install and then it's automatically set at 1600MHz. But, it is easy to overclock it.

  • I changed the frequency with this MOBO. Or use X.M.P. if have a different MOBO. Happy to have it and I will consider more in the future since these can be budget friendly.


SSD

Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB

  • As I previously stated before in past builds, it's holding the OS and is quite a speedy boot to Windows under 11 seconds, and it loads applications instantly. About 165GB remains in it and using the Samsung Magician software to help with it's performance and keep it trimmed when need be. Doesn't run too hot either. Seen it around 27~30°C.

HDD

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB

  • Again, love it for its speediness, and storage that it handles well. It will hold his games, and any additional documents, photos, and videos to edit.

GPU

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card

  • Now this is one card, I was changing constantly to be honest here. So, what the deduce did I get this video card for? ... ... ... To have a silent and decent GPU, of course. Not that I intend to overclock this my dear Watson but to have quiet spinning fans.

  • The GPU is quite impressive I say. And it does wonders when playing some games and testing in the Valley Benchmark. However, keep this in mind. By default, this video card will not spin its fans until the graphics card reaches around sixty-five between sixty-eight Celsius. Oh my!

  • Does this mean the card which is exhausting so much heat will grim the air with smoke that catastrophe is upon its shelter, and circuit board friend? No, dear Watson, not at all.

  • In all seriousness here, turn on EVGA's Precision X16 and adjust the fan curve. Make sure the fan curve is set as AUTO or it won't properly adjust the GPU's fan speeds ahead of time, not to the last minute when it gets too hot. This card is pretty impressive. As long the room temperature is good for this case. The fans spinning aren't too loud, and annoying either.

  • Last thing to mention, this GPU is HDMI connected to a large TV. So having this card helps with the adjustments in resolutions. Using HDMI will auto-adjust each game that is played. Sometimes have to manually alter again but so far the graphics are set on high. The audio works very well and when computer is turned on, one must change the TV's input.


Case

Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case

  • I got this case with a rebate of $15. In the end result, it wasn't too bad to work with but it has its own minor setbacks as well. I think my biggest concern is airflow. Sure it's there but if I think about it, there doesn't seem to be a best way to push cold air and quickly exhausting heat even though I tried to set it up this way. It's also fun to be creative with this case too, cable management.

  • I cannot say I did a super lovely job with the cables. The goal was to make sure they were out of the way so the cold air can easily be pushed through. Also, to not block the CPU's heatsink, so heat can escape well.

  • Since I mentioned about removing the default case fans. The front fan was easy to uninstall, once figured out. The side case fan, is a different story. I removed it, including it's placement holder for the thin 80mm case fan. I wonder if there was a better fan for this situation... my major issue was that I had to swap out the side fan twice.

  • Yes, I was concern of airflow, it all comes down to the bedroom remaining cold. I notice temps are about 7~ Fahrenheit higher in a 70°F room. And that's seeing a combination with the CPU in 61°C and the GPU can consequently reach 70°C. Higher if it gets passed 75°F in the room. So just be aware if room temperature, since these were results of Valley Benchmark.

  • However, thanks to the Mitsubishi air conditions, it's quite easy for this case to remain cool if the room is too hot. Thus the 54°C and below will occur for the CPU, and 54°C and below for GPU. As long your GPU fans are turned on ahead of time.


Optical

LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer

  • I bought this at the same time when buying my mother's optical. It works well for burning discs, watching movies, and it looks lovely.

PSU

Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

  • Well, to keep this in mind. I had bought this too, exactly at the same time when I purchased my mother's PSU. Oh and here is my human error, big time. I thought I could get a rebate on this. Nope, corsair only allowed 1 per unit for the rebate. Oops, but they were quick to respond when I asked for clarification. My bad... learn from my mistake, triple check your rebates if planning to grab more then one unit of a product before purchase. Or to avoid this huge boo-boo, get a different PSU.

  • Does it work? Yes, it sure does. It was like a puzzle to figure out on how to keep this semi-modular look decent in this case. I will update this PSU, when I get enough practice with making sleeved paracords.


Wireless Adapter

Rosewill RNX-N250UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter

  • Yes, I also bought this at the same time when I purchased my mom's WiFi adapter. As usual, love it to death because it is plug in and ready to go. I did not use the WiFi's driver because it is incompatible with Windows 8.1 but Realtek's WiFi driver can handle this. It's in its own USB stand but on top of the case. Antennas can be re-adjusted if need be for better reception. It's smooth sailing so far and love that it was a discount promo too.

Personal Notes

  • I loved working on this build a lot and the parts as well. Despite with all the issues that I had run into, it was so enjoyable! If anything else changes, I will update on here again.

  • UPDATE @ 10/04/2015: I did fix the I/O shield by gently pulling the excess metal up and down once. They easily came off from the HDMI and Ethernet port.

  • Thanks for taking your time to read my description. I would give you a free drink if I could! Please feel free to leave any feedback, questions or constructive criticism.

Comments Sorted by:

xRyanNitro 9 points 43 months ago

Awesome build! You documented your build very well with all the pictures

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 3 points 43 months ago

Aw, why thank you so much. I wanted to show as much as I could and explained on the pros and cons with the build. I truly enjoyed it all.

rhali8 2 Builds 3 points 43 months ago

Nice! A great description and a motherboard - full of pics!

This is a great build! +1

ALMOST Inb4 everybody ahem xRyanNitro ahem

JK :P

xRyanNitro 2 points 43 months ago

Inb4 everybody :D

rhali8 2 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

NOOOOOO

JK :P

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

You two crack me up. lol

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you! I truly appreciate your comments. Hehe, almost indeed.

piemancoder 3 points 43 months ago

Wow Eltech. You did really well with this one. I would never be able to build something as beautiful and amazing as this.

SMALL FORM FACTOR FOR THE WIN!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Aw... I truly feel honored. I thank you for your lovely comments. Truly, thank you. :)

And you can too. Just dream it, work hard and make the build come true!

piemancoder 2 points 43 months ago

Thanks Eltech! Also, good keyboard choice. I use it for my raspberry pi.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Nice! I have only seen one raspberry pi in my lifetime. I see it every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at my classroom. I do love the keyboard. I liked it so much before that I have one too now. For my little computer of course. :)

TexasBuilder 2 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

I think you need more pics. Great compact machine! +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Oh nom nom nom, more pictures... I'm afraid so many more could scare people away. I appreciate your compliments.

sponix 6 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Have to admit there is no lack of Pictures or Description on this Post.

Well done, this Build Log raises the Bar for future builds.

Thanks for Sharing !!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you so much sponix! Well many others before were just as inspirational too. I should be thanking the community here as well, so it is a grand thanks to everyone in the community for their builds along the way.

Minecreeper117 2 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

wow this is an amazing build! its great to see a featured that doesnt cost $20,000 with quad sli titans, and some crazy water loop. what camera did you use to take those 188 pictures??? +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you Minecreeper! Erm, relating to your username I meant. :)

I use my Nikon D5100. I wish I had taken a photography class but when I am done with my bachelors and more money, sure I'll do it. I do have a lot more photos then this but picked the best ones that worked out I think... but I didn't excactly count how many there. I'm guessing around 400~600-ish but don't take my word for it until I truly count them.

kylclrk 2 points 43 months ago

Wow, it's scary how close this is to a saved part list of mine. I think the only thing I'd change might be the GPU. The R9 380 comes to mind. =)

Great job!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Oh? Had no idea! And of course, I heard it's a good card too. I was a bit more concern of temps being lower as early as possible but the R9 380 is a lovely option too. :)

kylclrk 2 points 43 months ago

Yeah, the temps on the R9 would be a little higher, but I don't believe it'd be high enough to make too much of a difference. I'm currently in the process of saving up, and I'm debating on these two cards actually. Any regrets with the 960? I love to get second opinions! =)
(Note: I'm not going to be putting it in the shoe-box case, so heat isn't as big of a deal for me)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Right, it shouldn't be bad on temps. I have no quarrels upon the R9. I'm just afraid of sticking them inside smaller case forms but they are totally workable either way. This is just me of course, nothing ill about them.

So far none that I can say, yet. Makes the games my father plays, look like butter, in figurative speaking. I think either card is good to be honest with you. It comes down to budget, what you are looking for in a card. How high is the idle, how hot does it run when running intensive, demanding games?

So basically, if one is looking for more performance then I would go for the R9. I'm certain the rendering performance is impressive. The GTX 960 is lovely too, but I only went for this version for a quiet, cooler temps, and lower power usage. But I don't see the R9 and GTX 960 are dramatically temp differences, comes down budget and what performance focus you prefer upon.

kylclrk 2 points 43 months ago

Yeah, the budget on them is so close, though. =P

Thanks for your input! I appreciate it. =)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Oh you are right, haha. Where have I been? lol

  • Work...College...Sick...College....Work...Life...

And you are most welcome. Thank you for your lovely comments. I appreciate them. :)

SpoonHandle 3 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

I love this case, used it for my HTPC.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you! And great work with your ITX CM case too. A +1 for yours as well! :)

mlach 4 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Just a few photos shy of 200 ;) +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

I know... I only picked the best ones. Such a shame, that it is. And thank you! :)

ToShoBro 2 points 43 months ago

Nicely done!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you! :)

Growliff1234 2 points 43 months ago

Another absolutely amazing build by Eltech. Gets my +1 of course, isn't this like your third featured build ? That itself explains how great you are at building !

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Another absolutely amazing build by Eltech. Gets my +1

Aw, thank you Growliff. I feel honored.

of course, isn't this like your third featured build ? That itself explains how great you are at building !

My second so far, but I'm glad it's my father's build and not one of my own. You give me too much kindness and lovely words.

  • I only started building since my grandma's PC. Fixing PCs was one thing in the past but the desire to build was burning harder after seeing PCPartPicker at 2013. I just couldn't do it yet until I had the spare cash at summer, 2014. Here I am now, loving to build when I can afford it and making the time for it. I have two more PCs for the family now. One for my young nephew and one for my cousin.

I appreciate your generous comments.

Growliff1234 2 points 43 months ago

No problem eltech, you deserve it

vekspec 3 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

wow really nice itx CM elite 130 build! probably one of the best I've seen on here. GJ! +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you so much! Your words do mean a lot. I'm glad this CM Elite 130 had a pleasant appearance.

random_system_builder 4 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

I love the elite 130 so much. I used one for a system used mainly for email and it was fantastic.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Indeed, it is a lovely case. And nice!

rnpo 3 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Good job! Very detailed and so many pics!

We used similar case and RAM lol. Can you explain how to set Team Dark Memory frequency to 1600? I still have mine as default which is 600 >_<

Oh and you should invert the power supply so that the intake sucks cool air from the top!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you very much.

What MOBO do you have? I would check your manual to see if it mentions anything about X.M.P. or adjusting Memory Frequency. Usually you can adjust the RAM's MHz by changing the Memory Frequency. To perfect it further but not required, is to set their timings as to what you see on the RAM, should be a sticker on them or go to the manufacturer's website.

  • (Example is 24-9-9-9) Again this is an example because I am having fuzzy memory myself about the frequency of 1600's timings. So don't take my word for it.

  • I use CPU-Z to double confirm any OC'ed RAM.

  • And so far the PSU is doing fine. The flow of cold air is doing good but I do understand about your concern with the life of the PSU. The temperatures aren't dangerously high enough to be worried about when it's being used.

  • The highest I truly saw was 51-54 Celicius when playing TW: Season 1 by Tellagame for a few hours of maxed out graphics but by 1366x768 resolution even though it gets very buggy renders once you exceed the resolution too much. So best to keep it this way. If games were lowered graphics then it's more of a steady 43~47.

  • Most of the high Temps occurred for two main reasons. I used Valley Benchmark which I didn't properly calibrated the fans but continued to adjust the fans. And that was when heat of 70 Celsius was in the room which its at the top 3rd floor. Having adjusted the fans' RPMs had fixed the issues earlier.

jakethemp 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

its always great when i see someone that loves building computers as much as i do... you did an awesome job!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Aw, I'm glad there is another who feels the same way! And thank you so much jake. I appreciate your compliments!

mitzyjack 2 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Awesome build +1

Just wondering why didn't you go for a GTX 950, its great for small systems and is a cut down 960 but performs marginally the same. Just asking

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you! :)

I did forget to mention it but 95% of the parts were mostly bought at March and April too. I had them waiting to be build but never got the spare time to do it until recently. Which was near the end of August and swapped the fans out at September 1st. I had so much going on with life, that I had to sadly delay it.

  • However, about the GTX 950. I don't feel like it's worth it to be honest. You have to adjust/tweak it to get it close enough as a 960 GTX, and with the price ranges of each version, it makes it a no deal in my eyes. Maybe when they become a tad cheaper OK but I feel like they are too close in price range when one could get a 960 by then.
Tfarcraw_III 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

I don't think I've ever seen this many pictures before - anywhere.

Nice build though. Wish I had the patience to build a small form factor.

+1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

There is actually others before me, who had posted over 200 photos. :)

Thank you so much! I'm sure you could do it, but I do agree. Patience is required. I'm positive that I cursed at least three times because I was paranoid of hurting the video card when I was placing it inside the case.

ubaby123 2 points 43 months ago

188 pictures and a long description for a freaking awesome looking small form factor gaming right +1 (One thing that I personally would do is either scrap of the LG and Cooler Master logo on the front or paint it black but it is just personal preference)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you, thank you.

  • (Oh that could work too. Maybe you can do that for your build?It would look lovely. Hint, hint.) :)
bmccarthy8989 10 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Great job Eltech! I really like small form factor builds. You could say they are my favorite, especially when you try to fit a lot of hardware in such a tight space. A lot more interesting that throwing hardware in super large full tower case. (Not that those builds are bad.)

Most importantly and I'm sure why you were featured, is the detail you've provided. Some of the hardest things with small form factor is compatibility. And something as simple as a few good angle photos can help other builders figure out their tolerances before they even purchase the case and hardware. So thank you for taking the time to be so thorough.

On a side note, on image 103/188, I noticed that the tension flaps on the I/O plate are obscuring the ethernet and HDMI ports. As you are using wireless, and another form of display connection, it probably wont be a problem. Those things can be pesky, and sometimes requires the installer to bend them back a bit to avoid this issue. (I've done this more than I would like to admit.. haha) This is by no means a knock on your build, just thought I would point it out so that you may avoid it in the future. I can only imagine the headache of having to disassemble the entire build for this one thing, ahhhh!

+1 Looking forward to the next one!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Oh yes, you are right about photo # 103. I remember pulling them but thanks for the catch! Funny part is, I don't know why I felt no struggle when I connected the WiFi and HDMI. I wonder why that is? I'm glad you saw that, I will fix it.

  • Again, I do remember pulling them up but looks like I didn't check again to make sure they remained this way. An easy fix, uninstalling the GPU gently, undo the MB screws, re-pull those flaps up, and adjusting the MOBO is easy to do. I want to laugh hard now but I am in the library. My 1st time officially to do this without noticing it. This has happened before on my grandma's build which was simliuar situation but I saw it at the time, unlike this one.

Thanks so much for your lovely comments. I truly appreciate your words and awareness. More family PCs will be coming soon, indeed. :)

bmccarthy8989 10 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

I don't know why I felt no struggle when I connected the WiFi and HDMI

Haha, I've never done it on a board that has HDMI so I can't speculate there. But I've done it on the ethernet port. And for me, it just pushed the clip into the socket, preventing it from "clicking" but the tension was enough to keep it in place. I bet if you just gave it a little tug it would just slip out.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Hm... ethernet I could see that for sure if a flap was in the way. I am just surprised I didn't felt it. Then again, USB cords that I have worked with tend to vary a lot. Some connect like a bar of wet soap while others struggle because of how it's been placed or positioned.

And oh? I will see on what I can do there then. I tend to redo things which is OK with me too. :)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Then again, USB cords that I have worked with tend to vary a lot.

Hm... I should of said HDMI on this too. Good grief! I am tired. :P

thardlol 2 points 43 months ago

Looks great, just noticed on photo #103 the little metal i/o panel seems to have some of the pieces bent in to where it would interfere when you go to plug in the Ethernet and HDMI cables.

Really fun, cool miniature build, and nice job with the cable management.

thardlol

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Yes, shockingly I didn't get that effect with my USB. Would be true using the Ethernet but it's not hooked to an ethernet port, so I didn't notice it until bmccarthy caught that too. I will pull the metal flaps up when I make time for it. Soon of course.

Thank you for the kind words! It means a lot.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Yes, shockingly I didn't get that effect with my USB.

I meant to say HDMI, my bad.

Zenphic 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

Excellent build and write-up. Thanks for the comment on the fan control on that MSI board. It's pretty unfortunate how MSI implemented it.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Why thank you so much. I'm glad that it was helpful notes about MSI's MOBOs. I was unaware of it myself until I realized I could only control 4-pin fans when it came to callibrating the RPMs. It is a good board but the fan speed adjustments being unable to work with 3-pin case fans was disappointing.

Mariomash 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

Nice, I plan on going for the elite 130 in the future too XD how does it feel like to build inside it?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Working with this case had its ups and downs. The size of it is easy to work on but depending upon the parts, you may have to alter something or keep an HDD cage holder if using an optical. The fun part was moving wires around until they snug in tight and making sure it doesn't stop the case's cover. Usually had to pull things and tuck away. And when the PSU is on, make sure all the wires doesn't move or wiggle too much inside and can close it at the top.

Also may depend upon the MOBO after all. Never know what the connectors layout are at times when things get very cramped up. The one thing that was probably only scary for myself, is installing a big GPU onto a ITX mobo with very tight space. If not careful as to how you install your storage underneath the optical bay. Meaning you're extra space is being used up by a SATA cable and SSD towards the direction of the GPU, instead of where the HDD cage is at. Then you can't fit a big GPU until you switch them the other way.

The small case was easy to work your hands inside but it had its moments of reorganizing the parts more than once. Good airflow for the front fan as an intake and my side 80mm as an exhaust were very important to me.

Mariomash 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

Seems just about right! Your builds are very intriguing and I appreciate looking at them every once in a while

Also forgot to add +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Thank you. :)

auldae 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

Do I get a voucher for a free cognac with what seems like such a delightful read? ;) Also, who's your publisher? +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Sure, if I had any cognac. I would most definitely provide some. And um... I'm afraid I don't have a publisher yet. I ramble, a lot so if this is a lot now. Imagine my rough drafts, they become 10~30 pages because I'm such a visual, detailed person. I try my best to shrink my content... but I tend to fail miserably.

Thank you for your plus one. :)

gavinbcross 1 Build 2 points 43 months ago

Mate, you have just solved my pc issue. I have been looking to make a custom pc for months now and I could never find a good one, until now. I will most likely be using the build and I am pumped to do so. GG m9.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Aw, I feel honored. I wish you for the best upon your future custom PC. And I'm always willing to help if need any further information. Thank you for your kind words. :)

StandUpGamer 2 points 42 months ago

WHY DID YOU TAKE 188 PHOTOS!!!!

xD, Nice build. I am getting the same cooler in mine

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 42 months ago

Why not? :)

And I have a lot more... about 540~ photos from this build. And I have some fresh ones but I haven't updated on here just yet. My desktop doesn't have them but my SDHC card in my camera does. I fixed the I/O shield but I should update that photo soon.

xD, Nice build. I am getting the same cooler in mine

Thank you very much and that is awesome! It will serve you well. :D

LogWin 1 Build 2 points 40 months ago

Very nice and neat build. And there is a photo (#57) where all part are gathered in a circle in a dark.., around the flashlight.., waiting for you to start the play... . Man .., it shows how you like what you do.

That photo is sooo erotic... :)))

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago
That was ironically funny for myself. I was organized and ready to build away. Then suddenly had a power out. No power for about six hours. So I worked in the dark a bit with my little light on.
I eventually grabbed my bigger lantern for the case to decide on what I wanted to do for the cables. I plan it and map things out in my mind before I really put everything inside. Had to use my camera's flash to make sure it was seeable in the process since that's how dark it was.
Thank you very much. :)
DrTot 1 Build 2 points 39 months ago

Holy Mother of Pictures

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 39 months ago

:)

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

That is a bunch of pictures. I took your advice and viewed the first twenty then skimmed about 40 more before reading the description. +1

Hey on these builds with the blue ray drives, what software did you have to acquire to get the drive to play blue ray movies?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 37 months ago
Yes, it my most photos so far that is posted on here. I have broken my own rule about not posting 200 photos. However yes, skimming the first few is best I think so no one has to go digging the final result.
I actually procrastinated on this part. I should have bought at least one Blu-Ray optical that acquired the software with it but it hard to pass up the OEM deals. So far a "Blu-ray player" is used and most of my family have a lot of Blu-ray discs with DVDs included. You can see where this is going... lol
I need to figure out on how VLC media player works with the Blu-Ray playback. There is an additional code that I need to find it without "fake" websites out there. I will have to try again someday when I am not too busy building a computer or fixing a laptop while I have college semester and work at the same time.
Here is some Blu-Ray playbacks I heard of but just ideas: Macgo Blu-ray Player, WinDVD Pro 11, and the pricy PowerDVD 15 Ultra.
Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

Awesome. Thanks. I figure my next build will be for me and I'll add a blueray.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 37 months ago
No problem! The Macgo and WinDVD Pro 11 are about $59.99. Amazon has some download versions unless you have a local store that sells them. I used to... and now regret it badly. Darn it Office Depot why oh why did you leave us... The Power DVD 15 is about $99.99, but I do not see myself getting this one.
Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

Yeah when the software is more than a decent stand alone player I won't consider it.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 37 months ago
Indeed. I understand. Oh, and here some cheaper ones but I think I would just double check their interfaces, compatibility and capabilities on what you are looking for in a player. Some support those 3D Blu-Ray playbacks while others are very basic that you just want it to play.
- Aurora Blu-ray Player, $29.99
- Aiseesoft Blu-ray Player, $45
jbdudeguy 2 points 32 months ago

Which direction did you have all of the fans facing? About to build a computer with this case (first computer build, my friend is helping) and trying to get as educated as possible before I build it. I want to get a front case fan, and I really like the one that you have (cuz it glows blue and is pretty)

Does it fit in there nicely?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 32 months ago

Which direction did you have all of the fans facing? About to build a computer with this case (first computer build, my friend is helping) and trying to get as educated as possible before I build it. I want to get a front case fan, and I really like the one that you have (cuz it glows blue and is pretty)

What I normally do for my airflow is that I keep my front and bottom case fans as intake. My back and top case fans are exhaust.

With this CM Elite 130 case, I have the front case fan as an intake, meaning it's pulling cold air in. While my side case fan, including my PSU are exhausting heat away. I believe it's optional to have the side case fans to be intake for more cold air. My personal reason is I wanted the heat to escape better versus circulating inside and trying to find a way to escape slowly out since this type of case is small. If it was much larger than I may have done intake instead for more cold air.

I been extremely impressed with this LEPA fan and I wish I had known them sooner. It provides plenty amount of air and it's not so loud either when it runs about 1400~ rpm. The bonus I think is the LED is bright enough yet it's not so blinding to the eyes either. It has a gentle glow effect but it's also lovely at the same time.

Does it fit in there nicely?

It most certainly does fit nicely. I had no issues installing it with a plastic clip and you push a pin in the center of the clip to fully secure it. Of course, I was not used to installing a case fan with clips since it was my first time. Once you get one clip in, the rest become a bit easier or in my personal experience this is true. Maybe not for others, depending upon their layout but I truly doubt it be a major hindrance to install these LEPA fans.

Note: Photos #170-175 gives a general idea on how to install this LEPA case fan. I forgot to mention this, sorry.

Basically you have the clips, somewhat partially in the holes and put each pin inside the clip's hole but not fully in too. It is easier to get them all partially in than position the fan to be ready to be installed. Once the case fan is aligned with the case's hole too, press each pin completely inside the clip to secure them. You can push to pin back out from the back of the clip if it did not work the first time. It shouldn't budge if done correctly.

jbdudeguy 2 points 32 months ago

Thank you very much. I got most of it built last night. Just need to do power and move where I put the ssd.

Do you mind answering a couple questions if I run into issues when I hit the power button?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 32 months ago

Thank you very much. I got most of it built last night. Just need to do power and move where I put the ssd.

No problem and that is awesome to hear.

Do you mind answering a couple questions if I run into issues when I hit the power button?

I do not mind at all. If something comes up, I be happy to offer any suggestions that may be issues.

jbdudeguy 1 point 32 months ago

After some struggling I got it turned on and running! I think....

There is no display. My monitor has rgb and hdmi and the motherboard has dvi instead of rgb. Generally do you need to use dvi before hdmi? Like do I need a driver for that or something?

I'm confused on how to go about setting up this shiny new computer basically.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 32 months ago

So your monitor has VGA and HDMI? While your motherboard only has DVI and VGA? Use a VGA cable than if you only have integrated graphics which is using your motherboard's connection and displaying digital output with integrated graphics (the CPU's graphics).

  • Though make sure the BIOS is properly setup for this too, something set on AUTO for the Display Output or whatever your motherboard calls it in the BIOS.

If you have a dedicated graphics card (example is like a R9 380 or a GTX 950, but there's many versions and varies upon their connections) than most likely, use a HDMI cable. It really depends on what cables you have available for your monitor and between your computer since you need one of them to match up to display a digital output.

Normally, whatever is available for both the monitor (or TV) between the computer's display connectors. I will prefer HDMI or DVI-D (or DVI-I but most don't have it on monitors unless you look for one). VGA is considered a last resort if that is the only one available for the monitor and motherboard or a dedicated GPU.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 32 months ago

There is no display. My monitor has rgb and hdmi and the motherboard has dvi instead of rgb.

Bah, I am sorry. I think I misunderstood this. The joy of being sick which interferes my reading and focus.

You also could buy a special adapter if you need to convert a VGA cable to connect with a DVI-D connector. Male DVI to Female VGA Cable Adapter. Or a Male DVI to Female VGA cable.

What motherboard and monitor are you using? Though a part list would be better. Knowing this would make it easier to understand.

LokeTron 2 points 30 months ago

Well. you can't say hes not thorough. Top notch

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I try my best to provide as much info between the experience or what is necessary. And thank you!

Stereotypical_Whale 1 Build 2 points 29 months ago

what an awesome build. also, if its going to be a dinky little fan like that, make it a nactua :).

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

Thank you very much! Exactly. It's better to have a Noctua fan than none at all. Again, I truly appreciate your support.

Atron 1 Build 1 point 43 months ago

Not enough Pics or description :/

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Aw, my deepest apology.

Vidiot 1 point 43 months ago

This was great and all, but you need some more pics. /s

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Oh? My apologies. I'm not sure what more could aid further?

Feliks 1 point 43 months ago

Do you know how loud an i5 4590 stock cooler would be?

( I don't want to spend much on a CPU cooler so I'm kind of wondering whether I should buy one like the one you have or not. The only reason I'd want one is noise; idc about temps.)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Hm, I am unsure since I only used it temporary at the time with this i5's stock cooler. So sadly, I don't have a concrete answer for this. If I recall a previous stock cooler, that would of been from an i3. I say they are OK, cannot recall it being horrible but others have mention it being intolerable. In my experience, it depends upon the case and how much the CPU is being utilized to cause those stock fans to be audible (however I haven't been disturbed by them when cranked high).

I had the Rosewell RCX-Z90-CP hanging on my shelf, doing nothing. Since it had the copper ring around it, which is nice to have too, I thought why not use it. Most of the games that have been played, isn't too bad. Since it may be average around 1200~1450 RPM. Sort of hear-able if you have a PC next to you but it's not like a jet engine.

Feliks 1 point 43 months ago

Also you said, "Last thing to mention, this GPU is HDMI connected to a large TV. So having this card helps with resolution, especially for the variety of games that seem to benefit with these auto-adjustments and causes them to max on high graphics with ease. Yes, using an HDMI, the audio works very well. The TV's input must change to HDMI2."

I have a R9 280x... it is roughly the AMD equivalent of the 960. Which auto-adjustments and stuff are you speaking of? :o I am hoping to max on high graphics with ease as well and to be honest the 280x is supposed to be a better performer so I hope you're not talking about a NVIDIA-specific feature :))))

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

I have a R9 280x... it is roughly the AMD equivalent of the 960. Which auto-adjustments and stuff are you speaking of? :o I am hoping to max on high graphics with ease as well and to be honest the 280x is supposed to be a better performer so I hope you're not talking about a NVIDIA-specific feature :))))

Well, I wasn't being fancy term here or not saying it's NVIDIA vs AMD, if that's what you meant? I'm not into those debates but I try to be reasonable with each video card. It's just nice to see the resolution re-adjust on its own with the games since it's on a big TV.

All the games I had seen so far, were fully stretched and haven't dealt with stutter. And so far they remained in high graphics in a good sort of way so to speak from 768p to 1080p. I've known for certain that an R9 280X is better in performance, certain it goes pass 1080p.

However, I wanted the GTX 960 for the cooling aspect, and it does fine so far with the current games he plays. As I mentioned to someone else, the games were hunter games, simulators and angry birds. I'm certain more games will be installed later on but I have no idea when.

Feliks 2 points 43 months ago

No no! I wasn't meaning the debates XD I could care less which brand

What I meant is by it auto adjusting do you just mean because of the HDMI cable? If so that will be just fine, because what I mean is I am planning to do the same thing. There's something called Dynamic Super Resolution though and if that's what you meant than I can't do it lol

Sorry to sound complicated I just mean this:

Do you think that I will be able to do the same thing with my card?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

No no! I wasn't meaning the debates XD I could care less which brand

Haha, phew... likewise. :)

Right, it's the HDMI that is doing this. I didn't turn on the Dynamic Super Resolution. I believe you have to go into NVIDIA Control Panel to do this. And if using GeForce and can click Optimization and the options of different resolutions will appear by using DSR.

So far I haven't turned it on and I'm keeping it OFF. And I seen it before with my mother's video card with her own TV. The major differences was, her card couldn't run very well with the larger resolutions for both old and new games since stutters do occur if resolution is to large. It automatically would range between 768p to 900p.

I'm certain you won't have issues with the AMD card being connected to an HDMI to a TV. You might have to re-adjust your resolution yourself. As I had too for each TV until you can see your OS properly. Otherwise, the games will automatically adjust by a preferred resolution yet you could also change them too unless you hit some stuttering. So you should be able to do the same with your card.

Feliks 2 points 43 months ago

Thank you so much. Especially for making the point clear at the need because not gonna lie, I got confused but that clarified everything XD. Thank you tons! Best of luck with all your future endeavours ;-p

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

It's all good. I have a habit of yapping so much that it tends to get too long. And thank you, best wishes for yours as well. :)

Kylaralthor 4 Builds -10 points 43 months ago

So why is this a featured build? Very standard and low end, is it the long explanation of things most users already know? I mean no offense by this... Just curiosity.

manirelli staff 8 Builds 7 points 43 months ago

Not every featured build needs to be some 10000 dollar watercooled caselabs build. We like to showcase all sorts of machines on the front page. This one is fantastically documented and has great pictures which made it a no-brainer.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Wow... I am speechless here... thank you manirelli. Truly I am. I loved working on my father's computer.

random_system_builder 4 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Are the featured builds selected by staff?

manirelli staff 8 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Yes.

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Kylaralthor 4 Builds -1 points 43 months ago

Fair enough. Like I said, just curiosity.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 43 months ago

Well, you could ask the staff. I do not know why either. I never said the users had to read my description either... it is optional. That's why photos exist, yes? Anything is skim-able or ignored. :)

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Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 43 months ago

Hey Spycrab,

Why thank you so very much! Well, he has spent a lot on money on me in the past. He has been my shelter and financial supporter when it came to my health and education. I thought, why not build him something he deserved? I know it's so little but it's something I wanted to give and so much more.

And he had bought so many Pentium laptops in the past. I think it was time to give his needs something he has never had before. So it's a big thanks and I been blessed to have him as my father.

May I ask what it is?

  • I am not sure if I misunderstood this. So my apology if I do. He will be using it for MS Office, video and photo editing. Watch DVD/Blu-Ray movies and use Netflix. Surf the network, do emails. Games like simulators, hunter games, angry birds of all kinds.

Hope you don't get sick again :)

And thank you for your concern. I'm trying to avoid it again myself. So many people are getting sick. I think when the weather changes too much here at Fall, people get sick.

Tatsu Don't read that part of my real name :| Sincerely, Spycrab

OK. * > takes her glasses off < * Oh great... this is harder to read. :)

congratulations on featured :)

And why thank you so much. I never could predict it. I feel honored and happy to see my father's build is.

Thank you manirelli, Phil and all Staff members of PCPartPicker. You all truly caused an inspiration for everyone to display their builds into this site. I thank you all very much.

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piemancoder 2 points 43 months ago

currently got out of school my brain is tired

I know how you feel Spycrab. I always have to just take a 15 minute break. Middle school should have a break for checking PCPP. For some reason, it always seems things get featured in the middle of lunch.

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