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Simple small shop computer build

by Iainn

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14 Comments

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Date Published

July 11, 2015

Date Built

July 11, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

3.2 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

40.0° C

Description

This computer will be used in my sister's salon. It's a simple build but thought I would document it anyway, and as I used pcpartpicker to help me decide on the components, thought I would at least share it.

The build was very straightforward, the only issue being one that I already knew about; getting the motherboard into it's final resting position involved scraping it along the inside edge of the 5.25" drive bays. Not a massive issue as once it's in, it's in, but it's slightly worrying while you are doing it. Also I showed a pic of the SSD installed with the connector facing the front of the case. This looked like it would be a good way to keep the cables out the way, but the power connector was just too bulky to make it work. If I had right-angled connectors it might have worked OK, but I unfortunately do not. In fact, the SATA connectors that came with the mobo would actually be pointing upwards in this case, which makes them unusable.

The next issue is installing Windows 7 on it. As you can tell, there is no optical drive on it, so I attempted to install from USB. First of all, it took me ages to actually get the thing to boot from the USB drive. It either came up with the message of "Unable to boot, insert correct media, blah, blah, blah" or it went to the MSI EFI Shell, which is not where I wanted to go. After messing around in the BIOS, I finally got it to boot from the USB. FYI - I changed it from Legacy/UEFI to UEFI only, then back again to Legacy. So on paper I changed nothing, but for some reason, this seems to have worked. So I finally get the install under way, select the SSD as the install point, only to be greeted with a yellow warning triangle telling me it can't install to this drive because it can't detect a primary partition or some other rubbish, despite me creating one. After looking about for a solution, I found this post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/2xmpbs/win_7_wont_install_on_samsung_850_evo_ssd/cp2wpxg which suggests I need to install it from the actual DVD. Oh dear. My main computer doesn't have an optical drive as I gave it away to my friend who done a build recently. The only other one in the house is on my wife's laptop, which cannot be used for this process for 2 reasons. One - it has a blu-ray drive, but the power connectors are either not standard or I don't have an adaptor to make them fit the standard SATA power connection, so I can't install the drive in another computer. Two - I was going to put the SSD inside the laptop and install it using the laptop, then swap it back to the new PC once it had finished. Then I watched this YT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5YSPimZCk Absolutely no way am I going through that entire process. Twice. Thanks Dell. So I'm stuck until I get an optical drive. But that's a software issue, the hardware appears to be fine :)

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dumpster 1 Build 2 points 46 months ago

Nice work on keeping it so neat and tidy in such a small space. The pictures are crystal clear, too.

Iainn submitter 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

Thanks! It was actually quite dull outside this morning, so some of the pictures came out a little fuzzier than I had hoped due to low light. I'm not sure about it being neat and tidy though, the excess cables are just all inside the 5.25" area. If it ever needs an optical drive... it will be a tight squeeze in there!

m52nickerson 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

Nice simple build. Here is a thought, if your sister does not need the optical drive are you going to keep it just to install the operating system on future builds?

Iainn submitter 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

Well, I actually gave my drive away because I hadn't actually used a CD/DVD in months. Then of course, in the last few weeks there have been a few occasions when I've needed one. If I buy one, I'll just throw it in my computer :)

RubyJunk -4 points 46 months ago

You can install the operating system with a USB drive -_-

destersmek 1 point 23 months ago

"As you can tell, there is no optical drive on it, so I attempted to install from USB. First of all, it took me ages to actually get the thing to boot from the USB drive. It either came up with the message of "Unable to boot, insert correct media, blah, blah, blah" or it went to the MSI EFI Shell, which is not where I wanted to go. After messing around in the BIOS, I finally got it to boot from the USB. FYI - I changed it from Legacy/UEFI to UEFI only, then back again to Legacy. So on paper I changed nothing, but for some reason, this seems to have worked. So I finally get the install under way, select the SSD as the install point, only to be greeted with a yellow warning triangle telling me it can't install to this drive because it can't detect a primary partition or some other rubbish, despite me creating one. After looking about for a solution, I found this post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/2xmpbs/win_7_wont_install_on_samsung_850_evo_ssd/cp2wpxg which suggests I need to install it from the actual DVD. Oh dear. My main computer doesn't have an optical drive as I gave it away to my friend who done a build recently. The only other one in the house is on my wife's laptop, which cannot be used for this process for 2 reasons. One - it has a blu-ray drive, but the power connectors are either not standard or I don't have an adaptor to make them fit the standard SATA power connection, so I can't install the drive in another computer. Two - I was going to put the SSD inside the laptop and install it using the laptop, then swap it back to the new PC once it had finished. Then I watched this YT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5YSPimZCk Absolutely no way am I going through that entire process. Twice. Thanks Dell."

retardedpanda1 2 Builds 1 point 46 months ago

Have you tried using Rufus to create a bootable thumb drive? It allows you to burn the ISO right to the thumb drive and worked like a charm for me.

Iainn submitter 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

I have not used Rufus, but I used this guide: http://www.fit-pc.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_make_Windows_7_bootable_install_USB_stick which I have used for 3 other builds with no issue, using the same USB stick. 2 of them even had Samsung 850 Pro's, so not sure why the Evo would be any different. Luckily, I'm going to get access to an optical drive tomorrow so I should hopeflly be able to get it installed OK.

Liam81 1 point 46 months ago

You did a wonderful job on this build. I have one comment and one question/ observation.

my comment is that the memory list is not the same as the memory in the build ( FYI)

My observation / question is about the use of this build. Is this PC on a network or is it the only PC? If it is the only PC I am wondering how she will back the information up. All HDD's or SSD's can fail...... Just curious.

Iainn submitter 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

Hi, thanks for pointing out that mistake, I had to recreate the parts list and I thought I had picked the correct RAM, but evidently (and very obviously) not! I've just figured out how to update it, now showing the correct RAM in the parts list.

To answer your question - this is a networked PC, connected through ethernet over homeplugs to a router/modem. The software they use is backed up every night to USB and also to an online location. I would hope that is enough :)

Liam81 1 point 46 months ago

More than enough and for her sake it is great to know things are being backed up. I also want to thank you for sharing this build.

zainathan 1 Build 1 point 46 months ago

i had that issue with an old computer i was restoring. Try deleting every partition then it should just have the SSD, try to install on that

zevFern 1 point 46 months ago

Install Ubuntu. Easy, fast and FREE :D

woahwoahwilly 2 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

Install Windows 10!

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