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My xbox account got deactivated for some reason, and i was fed up with consoles anyway. So i decided to build a computer to replace my xbox. And i figured that an xbox one is $500. And live in 3 month cards is $240 for 2 years. So $740 for a console that will be outdated in 2 years, or a PC that you can always add to and upgrade? PC ftw. My future plans are to crossfire graphics cards, add a watercooler(the stock fan on the AMD-4130 is very loud), Over clock to 4.5ghz, and maybe an SSD if they lower price in the future. BTW people keep on saying that tghe 7770 is not all that good. Thats definetly not true. It has been running descent games on high very smoothly. GTA4-Max settings 37fps, War Thunder- Max settings 60fps, Dues Ex- Max settings 60fps . I only want to crossfire in the future because i dont think that one 7770 2gb will run bf4 as good as i will want to play it Steam-imnotyourdaddyimyourgrandpa

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  • 75 months ago
  • 4 points

You're getting 60 average FPS in War Thunder on the highest settings?

  • 75 months ago
  • 2 points

Yea... I'm wondering what resolution his monitor is though.

  • 75 months ago
  • 0 points

I don't know about that game, but I could get a good 60fps on games like Skyrim, FNV, and Left 4 Dead 2 at 1080p with a 7770. Some people just assume because it isn't a higher end card that you're stuck with low settings at 1600x900.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

The 7770 is a very good card for the money. War Thunder on the highest settings can be pretty grueling...

  • 75 months ago
  • 3 points

Its 1920x1080 at 60hz

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Is that and the others vSync'd though? You could be receiving some false positives is all, depending on how they show framerates

EDIT: Can't spell framerates

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

7770 is amazing card for the price, it's also a good entry level card.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Your build is upgradeable but it is limited as it is right now. Your current build probably won't perform as well as an xbox one or a ps4 because it's rumored that they will at least have the graphics of a 7850. Once you take into account that they'll have games optimized for their hardware, they will probably perform better than a 7850.

A few places that your build isn't as good as it should have been were the CPU, the motherboard, and the video card. This build would have been a little more but a lot better. The CPU is the fx-6300 which is miles ahead of the fx-4130. The bulldozer cores that were in the fx-4130 performed very poorly compared to other CPUs that were available at the time. Older phenoms, dual core pentiums, and dual core i3s all performed better in games. If you plan to crossfire, your CPU will bottleneck it even more. The next generation piledriver cores were much better and are around the same price right now.

The second thing is the motherboard. It supports crossfire, but only in a x16/x4 configuration meaning that the second card (even if it is a weaker 7770) will be bottlenecked to some degree.

The last thing is the PSU. There are better PSUs than the corsair cx series for around the same price. The xfx 550 watt and OCZ fatal1ty are all better PSUs for the same price.

With the build, you have right now, you do have an upgrade path. The first thing, I would change is the CPU because you are getting the performance of a CPU from 4 years ago right now. Change it to an fx-6300. Then, instead of crossfiring and getting bottlenecked by your x16/x4 motherboard, I would just buy one good GPU like a 7950 or a GTX 760. That would probably be your best upgrade path without bottlenecking your system by keeping the CPU or adding another 7770. If you have a fx-6300/7950 or GTX 760 combo, you'll definitely be better than the next gen consoles. Right now, you are a little behind the next gen consoles.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

2 7770 will out perform a 7950. And then here is an extra 1gb advantage over the 7950 with the dual 7770s. And you cant go wrong with 500 watts and 80 bronze certified for psu. Im definetly sure that two 7770s will outperform the xbox one. I do agree you when it comes to the CPU though, but with an overclock to 4.2 or 4.2 bottlenecking wont really be an issue.

  • 75 months ago
  • 2 points

The memory for a crossfire setup isn't additive. A dual 7770 CF setup will have 2GB of VRAM, not four. For the CF setup it's like I said before, you may be outperforming an xbox one in a perfect situation, but your situation isn't perfect. Your motherboard only has an x16/x4 CF setup when the ideal situation is x8/x8. Your second card will be bottlenecked.

A 7950 performs better than two 7770s in most situations at lower resolutions and in all situations at higher resolutions at 1080p and above. This is why for the lower end cards, it is much better to get one really good card. Once the next gen of AMD GPUs is announced, the 7950 successor will definitely be better than two 7770s and will be a better upgrade option. Even if you can't wait, a 7950 right now is a better upgrade option and performs better. You also don't have to worry about drivers issues and game support for a CF setup because you usually have to wait for driver or profile updates to optimize CF. If the game and driver isn't optimized for the CF setup, you will mostly getting performance from one card rather than two.

And for the PSU, you can go wrong if all you are looking for is brand and wattage. The corsair CX PSUs use lower quality caps that can't stand up to higher temps, especially higher temps in a CF setup. It might be fine, but it would have been better to get the XFX pro 550watt PSU which is 550watts, 80+bronze, and has much better quality than the corsair CX. Your choice is ok, but when they are the same price (which they often are), it is a no brainer to go with the better PSU.

And for your CPU, unfortunately, overclocking won't help improve performance much because the low IPC it has in the first place. It is an issue, you just have nothing to compare it to. This toms hardware article goes over the processor. It says it works ok with lower cards, but once you add a 6950 or CF your setup, you are introduced to severe bottlenecks that can't be overcome by just overclocking. This review also shows how little overclocking does with these bulldozer chips. They were just bad. It should be first on your list to upgrade with a fx-6300 or fx-8350 if you have the chance.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Having cards in crossfire doesn't mean that the video RAM is added. Two 7770s 2Gb is still only 2Gb.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

My hd7770 works great , between med and high settings for most games . 1920x1080p 6o hz

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Also by the time you would need to crossfire probably be better to buy a HD8xxx series card .

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay ive done some more research. Crossfiring isn't gonna get me where I wanna go. If I upgrade im either going with the power color 7950 or evga 660ti. @sketch the processor runs fine