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CustoMac Mini w/ Custom wires.

by kwwu1

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91 Comments

Details

Date Published

June 24, 2016

Date Built

June 24, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

3.4 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

23.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

46.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.076 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7.01 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

75.0° C

Description

Most ITX builds don't end up being cable managed. I am of the opinion that the smaller your build, the more important cable management becomes. It's not always just for looks.

For me, the Cooler Master Elite 110 is, thus far, the best case for doing custom wires, without being too large. My build focuses on easy maintenance without being a pain to disassemble for cleaning. I can effectively take this build apart like field stripping a rifle, and put it back together clean.

This build has been a culmination of work I've done bit by bit when I have spare time. The first time I put this build together I had opted for a Haswell chip in 2014. I see no reason to upgrade this more than a year after, except for amping up a new GTX 970 from Zotac.

The issues people have talked about with the Zotac is non-existent, and it is a relatively quite card at 1080p+ gaming. Coil whine is not present when idle or at load with the parts used in this build. Wattage is almost exactly at 50%, optimal for most PSUs. It also happens to be the biggest and baddest card on the market that would fit inside this case at the time of building.

To the disgust of many, I am limited to a Maxwell card for now as this build is intended to be a hackintosh. It would be another year or so before Pascal cards shrink down to a mITX form factor and for Mac OS X to support it.

Why a hackintosh? well let just say it's much easier and more stable to run. I don't have to deal with stupid windows activation every time I have a hardware change. I also run a php apache server, and both are baked into Mac OS X natively. More over, all the plumbing on the software side seems to be more stable than Windows 7 or 10. I also happen to be a veteran Hackintosher since 2008.

Notes on the CoolerMaster 110 | External Cable management: Excellent.

The 110 is a great case, for those who will not shy away from doing custom wires. It is small and compact. Cable management was the main reason I bought this case. with most cables located at the bottom of the back of the case, I can route cables under my desk easily. I essentially have one 1.8m umbilical running from my 110 to my monitor. The rest of the cables are neatly tucked away underneath the front edge of the table. Most case place the PSU at the bottom, with the motherboard on top; this means the data cables are clearly visible. I had to replace the OEM power cable with a angled cable to match same the direction of my umbilical cable.

Notes on the CoolerMaster 110: Internal Cable management: Perfect custom wire case, OEM ATX cables are difficult to tuck away.

The modular ATX ports of my PSU are located centrally above the motherboard. The good news is any cables you cut will not need a lot of length, the bad news is the more cables you fit on, the more work you need to do to cut the wires to size. This is because there are almost no spaces to tuck OEM cables except in the corner next to my GPU and in the space in the front panel. I had planned this build to be a custom wire build, so I was prepared for putting the hard work in to get it looking spick and span. Sleeving cables could take up more space with a minor obstruction to air flow, but I am willing to sacrifice that for the looks inside the case.

The case is also designed for liquid CPU cooling. The OEM pictures recommend a closed loop cooler's tubes to be placed facing the side of the case. I found that having them facing down and below the PSU to be the best position. That way the liquid conduits don't get in the way of the custom cables down to the motherboard.

Hard Drives and SSDs are placed all around the walls of the case, making them easily hot swappable. This cannot be said for other mITX cases. It still suffers from the separation of power and data SATA cables. As much as possible, I've mitigated this cable mess with SATA drive as much as I could by selecting custom length rounded SATA Cables, and custom ATX power connections.

I am very happy with this build, and the fact that I can field strip it, clean it and put it back together was the reason I stopped using real Macs, and switched to a Mac Mini, then from a Mac Mini to a Hackintosh.

For those of you who dislike dust inside the case and want a practical build, the Cooler Master 110 is a must.

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Eltech 20 Builds 16 points 33 months ago
This is an example of customize, cable management in ITX form. A lovely, amazing build. You have my one.
Eltech 20 Builds 7 points 33 months ago
Congrats for featured! Your beauty here deserves it!
rosswalker 1 Build 10 points 33 months ago

Startup Disk: Working SSD

Well I would hope so!

Nice, compact Hackintosh. Makes me want to build in that case. +1.

Dreamalittle 4 points 33 months ago

Love it. The best of both worlds; custom hardware with mac os. Immediately after pressing save on this post I will scroll up and click +1.

BuyChah 2 Builds 3 points 33 months ago

This build is simply amazing. Especially the work put into the cable length!

jadiusroy 3 points 17 months ago

Great build! What are the length of your cables?

Matthewtina2015 2 Builds 2 points 33 months ago

Lol, great! Much better than some Apple trash aka Mac Pro

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

I dunno man...that "trash can" it's pretty innovative.

So original and well thought, that MSI copied the exact circular fan technology from it and made "the Vortex". Same technology, a little more decorated for kids and with not even half the power.

...my 2 cents.

Matthewtina2015 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

But still, MSI is MSI, but Apple is still Apple

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

True...MSI is always been an mid-high gaming platform. Apple Mac Pros has 30 years of high-end leading manufacture of professional hardware. Bash on Apple Mac Pro as much as you wish, but it's been the undisputed best computer for professional use since it's inception. Music and Film have started thanks to Mac, which substituted the Tape machines and the IBM old bricks. So yah...MSI aahah

Does the Mac now have lots of flaws? No doubt about that...but to try to redicule the design of a Mac Pro (which is absolutely unique and innovative) is to say say that the Leonardo Da Vinci's Monnalisa was a crapy painting.

Just say that YOU DON'T LIKE the Mac pro...that'd be more reasonable.

Just saying.

Matthewtina2015 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

I just don't think the Mac Pro is a practical option

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

On what side? Money wise or dimensions?

scucivolo 2 points 33 months ago

I've always been a mac user.. so switching to a non-apple machine is something that worries me.. for example, once you install OSX, can you update to newer ones as they come out? or are you sort of stuck to it?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 3 points 33 months ago

I've had no problems upgrading via the App store for minor security updates. Main reason comes down to how you install your Mac OS X. I kept my install "Vanilla" that is the system files are untouched. This difficult to do in a with automatic install methods using Multibeast from Tonymacx86.com. You will need a manual Clover EFI Bootloader method to get your system completely update proof.

Major updates are one that require a lot of attention and experience to navigate. Even with my real Macs, I always keep them one generation behind. Good thing about a custom builds are you can experiment with OS versions on separate drives before upgrading.

Hope this answers your questions. Either way you will need to crawl through the forums to find your feet. Happy to answer questions you have.

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

scucivolo I once shared your fear too. I have been a Mac user for nearly 14 years. I am a composer and do professional work on them. As we speak I am building my first PC work machine in, well...14 years and a lot of planning and convincing went into it.

Windows nowadays is not nearly as unstable and "crashy" as it was years before. It's much more stable and much much more reliable. OSX, however, has shown some major disappointments, in mine eyes. The thing is that Apple has demonstrated uncertain intentions for the future of professional work with their OSX. In other words, we don't know for sure what the future of Professional work on mac will look like, and Windows has responded quite clearly with Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 10, which, in my humble opinion, are incredibly powerful and stable. Me and my colleague are using Win 10 for hard and consistent work, 24/7 operations and super heavy load content manipulation, and boy not a hitch.

I think the people like us that have used and loved Apple OSX for so many years are scared and resent a little bit Windows for the old traumas that has caused us. For me at least, Windows ME and XP was a nightmare. I became best friend with the Blue Screen Of Death.

So, I guess, all this monologue has the purpose to reassure you that switching to windows nowadays, isn't as bad as it was switching to Windows back in 2000.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

I don't know about windows 10. Probably windows 7. I wouldn't bank my business workhorse on a Win 8 or 10.

Still, Apple Hardware still lags behind in terms of Pro graphics demands. Mac Pro trashcan doesn't solve the problem either as it's still not user upgradable, and thunderbolt is way too costly, messy and new versions of it keeps on coming out making them easily redundant.

It seems hackintoshes are still the best of both worlds. I am holding out that Apple's metal API will be supported in Adobe CC, and I sure hope FInal Cut makes the best use of Metal. If they are not, I'm out. I'm already half way out the door.

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

I can see your point.

Let us not forget, however, that the point of an Apple computer is not "to be tinkered with", if you catch my meaning. The trashcan can be upgraded when it comes to RAM and storage and that's about all people that are not tech-savvy even want to deal with at all. They'd probably bring the computer to Simply Mac to have it upgraded cause they don't want to touch anything. They just want to turn it on and work with it.

Still I share your point on the API that lacks incredibly and it seams that with every update of the OSX, it keeps getting worse, that is why I have made the switch. My hardware is becoming obsolete because from El Capitan onward, it is not recognized...but I can't keep changing hardware...my audio interface alone is 5 grands, so Yosemite it is...but Yosemite has it's flaws.

I never really saw the point of a Hackintosh, since the voided warranty is something that professionally I don't want to add to my list of worries. If I have to deliver a piece of music and something happens to my machine, I want to be able to take it to an Apple store or a Simply Mac and make an easy fix and since I don't have the time to look for the problem myself, it would cost me more that I would earn in performances. Plus, Macs computers NEVER really gave me any headaches at all ever. I have experienced 2 CRASHES in 14 years. TWO, and I have reason to believe that one of them was my own fault due to a bad procedure in bootcamp.

Thunderbolt is very costly and I agree there. I also agree with the fact that is redundant. It is not well implemented and there isn't much hardware that can take advantage of 2.3GB/s of throughput, which bothers me cause once you have two SSD in RAID 0 you don't really need anything faster than that, not even for Video streaming from disk or Sound streaming from disk.

My two cents there.

PS - I found Win 8.1 Pro (not 8) and Win 10 a vast improvement from 7. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I find them faster and the API more ready to pick up the pieces behind me.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Two week turnaround here in australia to get the problem fixed. I'm not waiting around for the bearded hipsters to figure out what's wrong.

I just do a drive swap and go. Anything else, its down to the parts store or cannibalize my old parts box.

I am definitely not lugging my iMac to the Apple Chapel.

But again, if it's ur workflow, I'm the last person you should take advice from. It's really whatever's proven and works.

Good luck with ur work!

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

It's some people's workflow for sure. Not mine, at least not anymore.

Appreciated it.

Good luck to you as well.

Klings 4 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Nice build! Makes me regret selling my Elite 110 build... I actually think of building in it again, would you be so kind and share the cable lengths you have used :D ? That was the one thing that annoyed me when i buildt in it. Managed to hide all of them in the front panel :D

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

Thanks buddy! Been a long weekend project.

Well, I think the lengths would be PSU & MB specific. But I just measured as a go mostly. I must say a lot of forward planning went into it. The result is a fully field-strippable Elite 110.

The ATX 24 Pin required I do some maths based on the approximate radius of the bends. I did it by measuring out the shortest inner cable length & the longest outer length. Everything in between is approximated based on my calculations i.e. divided into 12 equal lanes. Worked like a charm. Chart it 1-to-1 on a piece of paper is best. The wires on the 24-pin also needed to be crossed to reverse terminal locations.

For the ATX 6-pins I had to eyeball the best arrangement of the cables before cutting to length. Routing the top 3-pins separate from the bottom 3-pins gave me the right reverse bend to reach the GPU. It also gave it a pattern looking a lot like a human anatomy textbook.

Ripped out the HD audio cable, and opted for a Z87N wifi as the length of the case USB header cable reach the USB headers headers exactly, so did the power/reset wires.

Good luck in your building! Hope it helps. I've been thinking about giving it a nice layer of gunmetal glossy paint. What do you think?

Ropota 1 point 33 months ago

Nice man. Have you done anything about that blinding blue CM logo when you turn it on?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Need an other weekend to change the LED out I think. It's glue gunned on by the factory, and I need to remove the solder. I'm thinking white LED or red.

Yes, I agree. Blinding.

Ropota 1 point 33 months ago

Do you ever consider building inside the SG05? That would be quite the accomplishment!

Selicos 1 point 33 months ago

I have one of those under my TV but the mITX board is a Q77 with a 19v laptop style power cord so it was super simple to put together. The goal is to find a cheap 120gb MATA SSD to swap in then eventually get a NAS setup so I can remove the media HDD and put the tiny mobo inside an even smaller case without the need for a PSU.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

If the new GTX 1070/1080 don't shrink to an ITX form factor, I might need to build in an SG05. Otherwise, this is the smallest case I can find without sacrificing performance.

Selicos 1 point 33 months ago

I like how the motherboard has dual Ethernet. I have a spare system like that with an i5-4570s looking to become a NAS inside a silverstone case. Looking to make it run everything I can.

SomeJoker 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Great job!

SFX_MODz 8 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

I like what you did with the wifi antenna for portability! I would suggest swapping the two hard drives on the top bracket so you are not obstructing the PSU with warmer than necessary air from that 3.5" hdd. I have a very similar build, minus the custom cables, as a home server using the Cooler Master Elite 110, but you sir have inspired me to upgrade a few things! Well Done and congrats on the feature!

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Yeah did some temps test. As the PSU is running at near optimal load, heat isn't an issue. The HDD at the top actually has enough clearance for air to come in, even with the lid on. The real heat spot is directly above the GPU. That is the area where I have a second SSD, which I don't use except for video editing. It is also where I do hot swapping drives.

Lathrael 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Very nice, and i assume you went for a single 120mm rad because a bigger cooler won't fit?

Edit: I mean the air coolers.

I would still have gone for a low profile noctua cooler, but nvm.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Yup, I can fit it, but it would be tight. If I hadn't sleeved the wires I would. I'm not overclocking in favour of stability on the Mac OS. The rad is mainly there so I redirect the heat somewhere else in the case, without using a cooler requiring height.

FACUNDO 13 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Great build, very good cable management.

Synthase 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

OCZ has been done some justice. Nice to see them instead of Samsung for once.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

I agree. Samsung SSDs are very flimsy. I hot-swap drives a lot, I need the outside to be as durable as inside.

Synthase 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Comparing my friends 840 Evo to my OCZ Arc 100, the Arc 100 feels all-round better because the outside shell is metal, and it has a weight to it that just settles right in the hand. Meanwhile, the Evo feels like a piece of paper... An expensive piece of paper.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Thanks. Glad to know someone shares my concerns. I keep on hearing good things about samsung drives in reviews. I just don't see it to be as good as they say.

OCZ gas had a bad rap in the past. They are very reliable now with awesome diagnostic tools.

Synthase 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Indeed. The Arc 100 I referred to earlier was a used one I picked up at Fry's, and it must've been heavily used for Windows 7 Ultimate (the OS that was left on it, the previous user doesn't know how to wipe hard drives) and it's still working like a charm. :D

aum 1 point 33 months ago

love the cable work, what kind of tools do i need to get into that?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

You need ATX terminal crimpers, good quality wire strippers, and ATX de-pinning tools, a ciggy lighter, and ruler. Google the heatshrink-less method.

Supplies include high temp heatshrinks 7-10mm diameter & good sleeves & atx & sata terminals.

I used to get my supplies from lutro0 customs, but i think the are now called mainframe computers.

A bit expensive, but good quality and predicable. You can buy from other local sources, but i'd say stick to a brand you like, and don't mix and match, even if it costs you a bit more. Not all supplies are created equal.

aum 1 point 33 months ago

aw man thanks! that site is super cool, its mainframe customs now, but yeah, wonder if theres any other sites like that,

building up a cool master 130 to a vr beasty and it deserves some nice cables!

kingpin 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

this is dope af! good job on the wiring.

caiokn 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Very nice job, congrats! This is the most beautiful Elite 110 build I've ever seen, and those cables are awesome in both looks and functionality. Did you use the stock cables that came with your PSU?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

Nah, the wires are all custom wires from a roll of black 24 Gauge. I did reuse the PSU OEM terminal connectors to save me some money. The colors of the OEM wires will show through the sleeves otherwise.

caiokn 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

I see, nice work you did there. Thx for replying. I didn't know you had to use black wires to make sleeved cables, it never occured to me that the sleeve would be a bit transparent.

Austinthemighty 1 point 33 months ago

Nice Mac, i may actually build this, but with 500 gb SSDs instead

Ronner555 1 point 33 months ago

Absolutely beautiful build. Congratulations.

DDR4worx 1 point 33 months ago

GREEN with envy 1+ Man

hackintoshbuilder2015 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

I really like the build. I have a CM elite 103 and use it for a dual boot system. I went for the larger case to fit a 980ti.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Is your build Dual booting Windows with Linux or Mac or something else?

Yeah, size was the key consideration when I was planning out the build. The Zotac was the biggest card I could fit. It fits, barely.

I would go for the GTX960 to save me cutting extra set of wires, but I people were selling their 970s on the eve of 1070 release. I just opted for a second hand 970 I needed to satisfy the PCpartpicker crowd. I don't think the build would have had that much traction if I fitted a 960 instead. The whole point was to fit as much power in it as possible with out compromising temps, performance, practicality and aesthetics.

hackintoshbuilder2015 2 Builds 1 point 32 months ago

I have windows 10 and OSX. I have that graphics card because I game and use it for VR.

CompsdocLLC 10 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Wow I love the clean wires of your build

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

It was the best I could do, but if I was to do it over, I would put a 650W Gold SFX PSU. That would free up some space for and push-pull config on the rad.

Although I would have a smaller fan on the PSU as a drawback. SFX is also more difficult to take apart and clean.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

End-to-end custom sleeved wires are rare. Most builds add extensions in the front and leave the back-end wires un-sleeved. Can't do that with this case.

CompsdocLLC 10 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Thanks for the reply, just wondering , but how hard is it to install OSX on this motherboard? I heard this motherboard has good OSX compatibility, even the wifi card is supported?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Wifi on the Z87N is not supported, You will need to get a compatible half-height Wifi card to replace it. BCM94352HMB is what I have, and that still needs work to get it to work 100% w/ bluetooth. As for the OS X 10.10 & 10.10, it's easy to get it to boot with 90% working out-of-the-box. The other 10% is the gold standard, and requires some Hackintoshing knowledge and experience. I've been doing for 8 years, so I've seen my fair share of what can go wrong, and fix it.

Mine's 100% vanilla, so I haven't touched any of the system files. They are all injected on-the-fly every time I boot up making it update proof except for major system version upgrades. It's all done manually, not via any packaged automatic methods.

That 10% includes getting (1) iMessage to work, (2) getting iOS hand-off to work, (3) Airdrop, enabling wifi, enabling Wifi 5Ghz band and Bluetooth. All these are advanced hacks that requires you to get you hands dirty. Out-of-the-box they do not work on most builds. Can't go into details here sorry.

Always have a real Mac on hand to entitle you to the copy of OS X, I am not a pirate and don't condone it. It's much easier if you have a real Mac, even just an old one.

CompsdocLLC 10 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Thanks ! awesome build ! Great job !

TriFlixFilms 1 point 33 months ago

Please share with me how you set up the dualboot hackintosh (software and what not).

Here's my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/K7ZYcc

I really need it for FCP and Motion 5 as my Mac has become to slow to run it well. I will take any help I can get at this point. My editing has been at a stand still for a month or so... Thanks!

P.S. your build is pretty sexy and Pascal will support OSX in August :)

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

This is not exactly a forum for that kind of thing. Happy to talk on tonymacx86.com

http://www.tonymacx86.com/members/kennywu.968155/

X99 systems are quite difficult to get working. Not sure if the situation has changed. Your MB is a recommended MB from tonymacx86, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Bob Roche from youtube is great for advice on X99 systems. Esp. on Yosemite Clover manual installations. And that's the method I prefer.

TriFlixFilms 1 point 33 months ago

Thanks you sooo much! I'll try to do some more research on it before I bug you with questions haha

Zenphic 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Very well executed build.

KeeweeComp 1 point 33 months ago

Very nice. I do appreciate a tiny computer with no cable clutter. Looks great!

Questions:

1) Where did you go to find hardware compatibility for OSX?

2) Why did you go with a full ATX PSU? Corsair's new SFX offering could square off the rear nicely if you decide to upgrade.

3) What do you find most difficult about building a Hackintosh?

+1

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

1) Where did you go to find hardware compatibility for OSX? Tonymacx86.com, first resource for Hackintoshes before anything else. Their buying guides are excellent, albeit on he conservative safe side. For X99 systems, Bob Roche on Youtube.

2) Why did you go with a full ATX PSU? The case won't let you square off the PSU anyways, it comes with a bracket that sticks out. I used Full ATX because it was the smallest at the time of purchase in 2014 that has a gold 80+ rating. I also needed more 6-Pins to mount my hot-swappable drives on the walls of the case. I don't like to do double wires; they are hard to sleeve, and it places more load and heat on a single set of wires. I was also going for a perfect 50% PSU load for maximum efficiency, and minimum heat at 331W of 650W.

3) What do you find most difficult about building a Hackintosh? The last 10% to get everything working like a real Mac. It's easy to get it to boot, and there are many ways to do that. What's not easy is finding a method that is impervious to updates, getting IMessage to work, getting iOS Hand-off to work, getting on-board wifi to work at all frequency bands (2.4 & 5Ghz) without the use of a USB wifi adaptor, and bluetooth. It really takes time and patience to find your feet.

My advice is to treat each problem on a Hack as a puzzle. Get it to boot first. Then each problem on the after should be a little weekend project. Don't shy from getting your hands dirty and get into the firmware and command line. Always be one major OS release behind. For god sakes don't try you luck with iMessage before any research, Apple will lock you out. Do you experiments on a separated cloned drive.

KeeweeComp 1 point 33 months ago

Thank you for the detailed reply :D

File_34 1 point 33 months ago

Is the case modded to have a window? If not the sleeved cables seem kinda worthless. This is still an amazing build despite one part.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Yes, but the the build focuses on being field-strippable. I can take it a part and clean it easily. The sleeves, while aesthetically pleasing, adds to the rigidity of the wires. They can be easily removed and put back together.

To answer your question, I can run this case open air, or encased. Sleeving was as much an aesthetic choice as it was a practical one. I have to please the PCPartPicker crowd right?

Notice I haven't pimped this up with LEDs. That's wasted wattage and takes from the practicality of the build.

masrawy_remix 1 point 33 months ago

Truely the best ITX build I have ever seen in my life. Kudos and +1

lorenzog.music 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Incredible build! Well done and very well thought through.

r98farmer 2 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Love the build, I have an Elite 110 that I use as a HTPC been using it for about 3 years and it has been great. I am using a Corsair H50 and never thought to mount the radiator like you did, great idea. Love the custom cables, I have a ncase m1 for my main build and went with a set of EnSourced cables, really helped with the cable management.

jamesmason 5 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Mac(hack)intosh

Professional looking photos

Makes sense, and doesn't.

You're brave enough to build your own computer and even do custom power cables, but not use Windows?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Well you do have a point. I'm not sayin it's for everyone, but I've been hackintoshing for 8 years.

Only in the last 3 years I've embraced a Hac as a workstation. And only because I did come from a Mac Mini workflow.

I do swap drives out for windows when I need it. If drives fail, I swap out a RAID mirror. All else, it's down to the local parts store to replace.

Workflows is different for everyone, I've found I had to deal with more crap from windows everytime I have a Hardware change. esp. with activation. That might change in the future. I don't know.

Bottom line, if it works I guess.

Blank_ 1 point 33 months ago

This may be a silly question but why is the PSU partially sticking out the background? Is this normal for this case?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

The case is designed that way by the manufacturer. It serves two purpose. One is to hold the PSU upright with minimal structural furniture inside the case. Two, it provides a bumper to make sure the connectors at the back have enough clearance.

The minimal structural beams really helps to make for an easy disassemble. This was the only case I could find that meets this requirement.

I must agree, it is not the prettiest case. I chose this case for the spatial economy, not for the looks.

arda1907 2 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

what are the length of those cables ?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

If you check the thread, I have already given my answer on the issue of cable lengths. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/CZtJ7P#cx1781211

It's going to be different based on your hardware. You will need to work out all the twists and turns you will need, and calculate the shortest and longest cables for every "ribbon" you have. By "ribbon", I mean wires that are twisted and bent on the a single row of ATX connectors.

For instance, the 24 -pin ATX you will need to calculate the shortest and the longest wire length of a single ribbon. Once that's done, you will divide the difference into 10 more steps to arrive at your individual cable lengths. The same lengths can be used for next 12 pins, depending on you wire management.

Chart it on a piece of paper so you can check the lengths after every cut. You will need to make an a slight allowance to compensate for the length you will lose from the crimping the wires.

Since the PSU is best mounted upside down, most of the "ribbons" will need to be reversed. With the 24 Pin, you can criss-cross them. With the PCI 6/ 8 pins, you may find you have to twist the top row ribbon independently of the bottom to make a more elegant bend.

It's gonna take time and will tax your sanity. So do it bit by bit.

Enjoy.

ol 1 point 29 months ago

Dude, this is a virtuoso display, a freaking master class. The Hackintosh , build and cable management. The mind boggles. Never voted on this forum before but when I saw this build my fingers automatically said 'yes'.

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

Much appreciated buddy. My next project will likely be to fit all this into a DAN case A4-SFX. I'll probably sacrifice 3.5" HDDs and liquid cooling for an even smaller form. https://www.dan-cases.com/

The other candidate would be the Lian li TU-100. http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-tu100/

ol 1 point 29 months ago

Sorry for the late reply. New to the site. The 2 cases look really awesome, of course I have not heard of Dan cases before. Will it be another Hackintosh? Again I know the cable management will be a hell of a challenge. Keep me posted. I don't know- may be pics and something for You-tube . The cases and cable management alone would speak for themselves. Best of luck with the build.

irq506 1 point 25 months ago

Wow that looks super impressive. I'm a Mac user looking to flee the sinking ship, while holding on to the software investments I have. Thanks for this.

sandris 2 Builds 1 point 24 months ago

Great build man, i love it! Very congrats! I didn't undestood if you have bought the PSU cables or are custom made?

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 24 months ago

Thanks buddy. Cut them myself using a romer. Had to calculate the lengths of the cables factoring in the bends. off the shelve cables are mostly extension cables and are too long.

AndresRueda 1 point 22 months ago

Hi, great build mate! Im thinking on make something like that, did you use 24awg wires for psu cables? on some place i read that manufacturers recommend 18-16 awg wires to custom cables, did you have any overheating problem or something like that?

On your psu you find some kind of capacitors on the end of cables? did you passed that caps and didnt put it on your customs? Thanks for all your help!

kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

My experience is get away with the least AWG wire as possible. the higher the gauge, the hard it is to bend and train. Your sleeves will also add rigidity to ur cables. 18 gauge is good. I'd go smaller because its easier.

There is minimal capacitance at those cable lengths. Actually, there is less compared to OEM wires. Makes sense as oem wires are bunched up, making more capacitance.

I measured it with my multimeter.

I find sleeves catch the airflow a bit. so a slight sacrifice for looks.

No heat issues. I'd avoid adding a hdd on top left above the gpu. as thats a hotspot. A fan there is good, but you'll need to DIY it on.

William12345 1 point 21 months ago

@hi@

MTHD 1 point 20 months ago

"I am of the opinion that the smaller your build, the more important cable management becomes"

Agree 100000000%

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kwwu1 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Well, if you hadn't pointed it out I would have noticed. Now you made me want to change my PSU to a 770 W PSU.