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White Widow(FINAL)

by shreduhsoreus

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Date Published

Oct. 3, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

4.75GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

28.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

55.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

2.06GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

12.01GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

54.0° C

Description

What started out as a "budget" monochromatic 1080p gaming PC has evolved into an absolute beast. I give you, White Widow.

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This PC is mainly for gaming, general desktop use and folding. Desktop runs at 120Hz for smoother video playback(and to counter the GeForce bug that prevents GPU's from downclocking when above 120Hz refresh rate) and most games I run at 165Hz with G-Sync enabled. Some games that drastically surpass 165FPS I drop to 120Hz and enable ULMB and vsync instead. 2 more Dell S2417DG's for surround soon to come(here's hoping for that Black Friday/Cyber Monday special!) with G-Sync ensuring that those 11M+ pixels are delivered smoothly. I also decided to mount my 2 850's on top of the HDD shroud with Velcro because I didn't like the idea of them being suffocated on the other side of the case and to give me more room to manage the 8 fan cables.

Prices listed are my final cost for each part. Sources include Amazon, Fry's, B&H, Best Buy, Newegg and Corsair's webstore.

GPU brace which I highly recommend can be found here(NOT an affiliate link)

The main thing everyone wants to see other than pictures:

OVERCLOCK:

  • BCLK: 125
  • Core multi: 38 (4750MHz)
  • Cache multi: 32 (4GHz)
  • vcore: 1.395
  • FCLK: 8x
  • XMP: disabled
  • DRAM freq: 3000MHz
  • Micron "try it" preset used(16,18,18,38)
  • GPU power limit: 120%
  • GPU core: +100
  • GPU mem: +500

Currenting playing: Warframe, Paragon, The Talos Principle, LawBreakers, Ghost Recon Wildlands.

Side note: I currently live in a 1 bedroom apartment with my husband. The final upgrade was my first anniversary present(1080 Ti, monitor and SSD's. Yeah, my husband is amazing :P). We're making due until it's time to move into a real house :3

Part Reviews

CPU

Bought this on sale when Coffee Lake was still projected to be Q1 '18 after I ran with a 6850K for a week, which just wasn't cutting it because my usage prefers clock speed over cores. No real regrets, it's a good chip for my needs. I don't really care about streaming. I'm not a content creator. I'm just a PC nerd that plays games. Delidded, TIM replaced with Liquid Ultra, IHS reseated. Stupid low temps(no thanks to Intel) and a nice 4.75GHz overclock. Pushes high framerates which is what I needed for my 165Hz monitor. I'm honestly not even salty about Coffee Lake bumping up the core count.

Ok...maybe just a little salty.

CPU Cooler

Good closed loop cooler. Mainly because the pump is made by Asetek. Fans that come with it are good, but they're not very quiet so I threw them back in the box, put a pair of ML120's as push and another pair of ML120 Pro as pull. That's more like it.

The "quiet" profile in Corsair Link is buggy and randomly ramps the fans up for no reason, but Corsair is known to code like *** so that shouldn't be a shock. I use the Commander Pro(which I've also reviewed) in tandem with the included splitter to run the fans how I want.

Motherboard

Good Z170 board for the price, with great looks to match. Using an NVMe drive disables 2 of the SATA ports so I had to rethink my cabling. Plenty of fan headers, but MSI cheaped out and the sysfan headers are dummy 4 pin headers(the 4th pin is just for show, so those headers are not PWM), but they at least included 2 CPU fan headers which are PWM. I've had this board for almost a year now and it's still going strong. The look of this board is honestly the main thing keeping me from upgrading to Coffee Lake. Pssst, hey MSI, make a Z370 Krait that looks identical to this and I'll buy it like a fool ;)

Memory

Micron IC's so they don't overclock as high or have as tight of timings as sticks with Samsung IC's. That aside, I was still able to push them further than XMP. My motherboard has the "Memory Try It" presets and I used the one for Micron 3000MHz, which set the main timings to 16-18-18-38. Passed MemTest86 and 8 hours of RealBench.

The LED's can be configured with Corsair Link, but your options are limited. You can change the speed of the flashing and the brightness, that's about it. They still look good though. I've got them static instead of flashing and lowered the brightness a touch.

Storage

I will NEVER switch back to a SATA SSD for my boot drive! My system is so much snappier and more responsive now. Will your system boot faster? Not really. Will your games installed on it load faster? Some will by a little, some will by A LOT(Cities Skylines). Will your system be much snappier and more responsive overall? Ohhhh yeah. Love, love, LOVE this drive. NVMe OR BUST!

Storage

Running 2 of these in RAID 0 as my primary game drive. Over 950MB/s sequential across the board. Games install super fast, load super fast and moving files around takes a second. By now it should be common knowledge that these are some of the best SATA SSD's you can buy, and they scale near perfectly in RAID 0.

Storage

Good drive. Good amount of space. Good price. Couldn't really ask for more.

My benchmark tests are weak because I have 1TB partitioned as my "Program Files Overflow" and the remainder as a storage partition. I might just combine the partitions and defrag frequently instead.

Video Card

Reference PCB, factory overclocked, liquid cooled. The $50 extra compared to non-liquid cooled models was worth it in my opinion. I bought this instead of the EVGA Hybrid because it came with a fan that matches the rest of my build(I'm sorry EVGA! I'll be back before too long, I promise <3). I don't mind that the fan has to plug into the motherboard because I have the fan hooked up to a Commander Pro with fan speed tied to GPU core temp.

Overclocked to 2062Mhz on the core, 12Ghz on the memory. Peaks at 54 degrees with a modest fan curve. Has coil whine when folding, but other than that is fairly quiet. Much quieter than my air cooled 1070 was.

I am pretty annoyed that the accents on the back plate are grey. The pictures on Corsair's website showed white accents. I know it's petty, but when you spend $800 on something, you tend to want to receive what was pictured. The pictures also showed a lack of a DVI port(which means more room for heat to exhaust) but it does have one.

Case

I've built inside this case 4 times now. It's spacious, very nice looking and plenty of options for airflow, as well as a good amount of dust filters. It's a little wobbly though, the door doesn't line up right unless I have a thin coaster under one of the feet(which makes it more wobbly). Poor QC, as per usual, because it's Corsair.

Power Supply

Paid a hefty premium for this model, but I really liked that it's white and comes with white individually sleeved cables and some cable combs. Those extras sort of even out the increased price. Corsair had to cheap out somewhere though and didn't give any Velcro wraps for the cables.

Now let's talk about the voltage regulation. This unit has some TIGHT voltage regulation, very impressive. My vcore used to fluctuate under load with my EVGA GQ-650, doesn't budge one bit with this new unit. Was even able to push a slightly higher overclock thanks to the vcore not fluctuating at higher frequencies. I also like that the fan only spins at 40%+ load.

But the main reason this unit is so good is because Corsair didn't make it, they just slapped their logo and a new paint job on it(cream on the inside, clean on the outside).

Case Fan

Bought this to have a fresh air intake at the bottom of my case instead of all the intake coming through the radiator. This blows straight at my drives and helps to keep positive air pressure and pull cool air into the case. Looks nice, is fairly quiet and doesn't suffer the same issues as the ML140's.

Case Fan

Bought 2 to use as "pull" fans on my H100i V2. They look great, have pretty good performance and don't suffer the same issues as the 140's. I technically have 3 of these because my Hydro GFX 1080 Ti also included one. No problems with these yet. Very wide RPM range with PWM, and when you're using PWM the LED's are fully lit no matter the fan speed.

Case Fan

Bought these to replace the fans that came with the H100i V2. They are MUCH quieter and perform just as well. These are my "push" fans that are in between the front of the case and the radiator. These don't suffer the same issues as the 140's.

Case Fan

These are junk. Corsair refuses to admit there's a design flaw with the 140. I've had 6 of these. 4 of them were returned because out of the box they either buzzed or chirped(this is a common complaint about these that I wish I had known about). The 2 I have in my build now were great at first, but after a few weeks also developed that same annoying buzzing noise once you hit 1000 RPM. The only reason I still use these 2 is because I don't need high RPM for the top exhaust, so I have them set to a static 800RPM(at least they have a wide RPM range that allows me to have them running slow). These fans have destroyed any faith I had in Corsair, made me regret spending $1500+ on Corsair stuff, and ensured that I will never buy anything with a Corsair logo on it again.

But hey, at least they look pretty I guess...but $30 for these is highway robbery. Screw Corsair.

Monitor

At first I loved this monitor. Then I hated it. Then I thought it was alright. Then I hated it again.

Then I let it sit in the box for a few days. Pulled it back out, did a factory reset and gave calibration one last go before returning it. And I'm glad I did. You will have some color banding(because, TN panel) and you do have to compensate for the factory gamma settings using Nvidia Control Panel, but no matter what kind of panel you buy there are compromises to be made. The fast response time, high refresh rate, high pixel density and G-Sync made up for the slight color issues. I love this monitor. I'm buying 2 more as soon as they go on sale again.

Keyboard

After using my Logitech G710 with MX Blues for a few years, I decided it was time for a change. I wanted something a little more quiet and a little more responsive. Not a fan of Razer switches, MX Browns or MX Reds so I was having a difficult time finding something. Then I read about the MX Speed switches in this keyboard. I was skeptical but decided to just buy it and try it myself. Wow. Ok, first thing's first, these keys are sensitive. Very sensitive. Shortest actuation distance I've seen(1.2mm) so a light touch is all that's needed. I've definitely seen an increase in my typing speed(from 90WPM to over 110) and I feel I'm a bit more accurate now that I'm used to these keys. Now with gaming, this keyboard is definitely more comfortable because the switches are linear and smooth, I'm also able to strafe/juke much quicker too. I was in love by the end of the first day.

But...being a Corsair item...the software is a joke. It's not as buggy as Link, but it's still got issues. I ended up creating my own custom RGB profile that I'm pretty happy with, and I've seen others create some cool game specific profiles as well. I don't care as much about the RGB aspect, so it's still a 5 star keyboard to me, plus I got it on sale.

Mouse

My favorite mouse to date! I've had at least 5 different gaming mice and this is the one I will be hard pressed to replace. The middle mouse button is stiff, but a quick, solid tap ensures actuation. I do have to charge it twice a week, but the charging cable included fits in a way that makes it feel just like the wired version, I often forget it's even plugged in. The sensor is very accurate with a high DPI range, and I prefer a mouse with only 2-4 thumb buttons(so this has the bare minimum for me). I also don't have very big hands so this mouse's slightly smaller than average size is perfect for me and very comfortable, no cramps yet and it's been at least 6 months since I got this.

Speakers

The bass. The rock. The mic. The treble. I like my coffee black just like my metal.

Seriously though, these speakers are amazing. And at $100? Go away audiophiles, I don't care! Volume knob about 30% of the way up is plenty for me to jam to. I don't even have the sub turned up either and it thumps. I wanted the digital version, but I just couldn't justify spending an extra $50 just to use an optical audio cable. If you've got a local store with these set up, take your phone and an audio cable and test them yourself if you're still on the fence about these. I personally don't think you can beat them without spending triple the money. I plan to upgrade to the 5.1 version after we move.

Other

Would never pay the full $30 asking price for this, but when they go on sale I think they're definitely worth it. It looks nice, performs as it should and gives you something to put your keyboard on to help keep it from sliding around/scratching your desk.

Other

Need a SATA cable that will fit in tight spaces and is easy to manage? This is the one for you!

Other

I feel it's a little overpriced, but it does have a good amount of features. Corsair Link is buggy as hell, but it's usable. I've got 6 fans hooked up to this: 1 tied to GPU temp, 2 at a static 800RPM, 2 tied to my CLC liquid temp, and 1 tied to CPU temp. For the most part it works how it's supposed to(other monitoring software like HWInfo screws it up and you have to restart the app). I also like that the quiet, balanced and performance profiles also take control of the attached fans(if you have the sudden desire to make your rig sound like a jet engine).

The thermal probes are pretty niche and mostly just for those who think it would be cool to monitor certain temps. I wasn't going to use them but figured since I paid for them I might as well. 1 is monitoring GPU rad exhaust, 1 on top exhaust, 1 on front intake, and 1 on the CPU rad exhaust. They seem pretty accurate.

You can also buy the Lighting Node Pro LED strips by themselves and plug them straight into this without buying the one that comes with the lighting controller. The RGB fans need the RGB controller though, keep that in mind if you hope to use this with them.

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philphaser 12 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

This is perfect!

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you! Much appreciated :)

philphaser 12 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

You're very welcome! ; )

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hi_im_snowman 2 points 4 months ago

Okay well I must say, I think I'd second nearly every part choice on this list, only differences being personal taste! How close to 165fps are you getting in your games in 1440p? (cough Wildlands)

Great build! I also love the commander pro, the ability to select the full range of RGB and ESPECIALLY to do proper software-controlled fan speed setting... was totally worth it.

You nailed it, imo!

+1 !!

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Just ran the Wildlands benchmark, 57 min, 67 avg, 78 max. That's with temporal filtering, no motion blur and everything else maxed. G-Sync is the savior here.

Warframe surpasses 165 at all times. That's one of the games I drop to 120Hz and use ULMB.

Paragon(thanks to a recent visual update that looks absolutely gorgeous) is around 100-120. Though I've seen it dip to 80's and 90's during crazy team fights. G-Sync is really good here too.

LawBreakers dances around near the top of the G-Sync range so I use the in game limiter to cap it at 162 to eliminate input lag from vsync trying to kick in.

The Talos Principle with QHD textures, no super sampling, but everything else maxed ranges from 90's up to 170. If I add 2XSSAA to the mix it basically cuts in half with very little increase in visual quality. I prefer the smoothness.

Add Divinity: Original Sin 2 to the list as well. Don't have very much time invested so far, but I've been seeing the 150's.

And thank you! Much appreciated! I agree on the Commander Pro, I hated the price, but I just had to have it haha.

KB_Evolved 5 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Good component choices and I love the black/white color theme. Not only that but you did an excellent job with cable management. I really needed this since the last pricey build I clicked on was destroyed by a pathetic attempt at cable management. You know you did good when you're confident enough to take a picture with the back panel removed.

Definitely +1

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 0 points 4 months ago

I'm not gonna lie, after it was all said and done I sat staring at the backside thinking to myself "Wow. I'm the ****" hahaha.

But thank you! I honestly put a lot of time into just the cable management alone.

typow 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Amazing build, absolutely love the white and black theme and clean look! Gorgeous and powerful the deadly combo!

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thank you! :)

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

This looks like what would have happened if my build went right and I didnt make crap choices for parts. Very sick!

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I think you did a pretty good job on your build! We've got a lot of similar parts, I just went crazy on storage because I'm a pack rat/file hoarder haha. But thanks, glad you dig it! :)

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Ya almost 4tb is a little overkill lol. Yeah I’m going to take the back part of my PSU cover off like you did. I also had my eye on that monitor but went with 4K because I’m stupid. Although for my first build I think I came out very well, you have a really refined erosion of what mine can be in a couple years.

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

3 and a quarter ;) (Edit: I can't math right now apparently, it's 4 and a quarter lol)

But I have a lot of games that are big files. Elder Scrolls Online(without the latest expansion) is like 74GB. I haven't played in months but FORGET downloading that again! Most of my games are 30-60GB, and now I have space to install them all again!

I wouldn't say stupid, 4K looks great!

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Oh yeah you have 2 500 GB ssds. I have only used 400gb of my hard drive and 100 of my ssd so I don’t really need a lot of space. Well it’s sad that my iPad has a higher refresh rate than my overlooked monitor. While 4K looks great whenever I use my friends 144hz my 72 look so bad.

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I completely understand. Even with this beast Ghost Recon runs around 70 FPS, and I'm just like what is thissssssss.

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Ya the biggest game that I have is forz horizon 3 and it’s 58 gigs. But I don’t use a lot of storage.

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Hey I remember talking / arguing with you before about someone’s else’s build when it came to 6 core CPUS from intlel. I guess you did switch to main stream after all!

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I browsed my comments to see. I think it was about the 6850K's price drop and how it's better in some ways and worse in others compared to the 7800X. I got a bum chip with my 6850K, 4.3GHz was just not cutting it for me. I probably would have kept it had I got up to 4.5, but meh. Saved myself a few hundred bucks this way.

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Ya I think I was talking about 7700k vs 6850k price to performance and I get a bit heated with this other guy.

Asian_PC_Guy 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

I’ve just loved having 5.1GHZ and this guy told me 6 cores are abetter value.

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Yeahhhhhh, I vaguely remember now. It was basically do you need cores and PCIe lanes or do you need a faster processor. Some people just don't listen to reason though, unfortunately haha.

Jpedropv 1 point 4 months ago

Great build! How are the temps with an AIO gpu in comparison to a regular one for you so far?

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks! Max temp I've seen is 54 degrees, and I don't have the radiator fan running full blast. It's basically running around 20 degrees cooler than my air cooled 1070 did, and you also have to consider that the 1080 Ti just dumps more heat due to higher power consumption. So I'd say it's pretty good, worth the extra 50 bucks.

Camranatic101 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

So what computers do you actually have, you have 6 builds, but I'm assuming you have two actual PCs. the 6850k, and the 7700k PCs

shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 0 points 4 months ago

4, technically. I returned the 6850K because I wasn't happy with the clock speed.

So there's this one, the one in the Core 500 with a 7600K(that one has been half rebuilt since I posted it), another with a 6600 and 1060 that's basically spare parts, that's going to be a gift for my nephew. Then I've got a NAS built that just needs the HDDs to be fully functional.

death9251 1 point 3 months ago

This thing is a monster even as compact as it is kept clean and looks sturdy +1

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shreduhsoreus submitter 6 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Bought this on sale when Coffee Lake was still projected to be Q1 '18 after I ran with a 6850K for a week, which just wasn't cutting it because my usage prefers clock speed over cores.

The 6700K has been in this PC for months and the board almost a year. But thanks! :)