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Windstärke V2

by vagabond139

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Details

Date Published

Sept. 8, 2016

Date Built

Sept. 12, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

4.8 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

29.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

66.8° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.15 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

6.1 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

50.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

80.0° C

Description

This is the 2nd generation of Windstärke. It finally has non potato pictures although they still aren't exactly good to say the least.

Its a HUGE upgrade from my 860K. I went from about 40 to 30FPS in GTA V to around 100FPS. In BeamNG drive which wrecked my 860K and often left me at below 30FPS but now I go no lower than 40FPS usually and it usually stays around the 60FPS mark.
The motherboard has a non potato BIOS unlike my old build. There are tons of options in it.

Didn't show the back since its a mess of wires that is just about impossible to tame since cables go all over the place. That will be fixed when I sleeve my cables since I can get everything the right length.

i5 6600K

Its a great performing CPU as I mentioned above. I paid $280 for it, no that isn't a typo. I got it from Silicon Lottery which sells binned CPU's. This will run at 4.8Ghz at 1.42V or lower which is in the top ~30%. I also finally get to use temperature measuring programs other than AMDOverDrive. It couldn't do 4.9Ghz at 1.45V, maybe it could at 1.46V or 1.47V but that will have to wait for a beefier cooling solution. My cooler is good but not that good.

Scythe Fuma

The word Fuma means wind demon in Japanese which fits it right with 3 powerful fans on it and the name of my build.

God tier cooling. According to this review its just behind a EK Predator 240 which is scary for a HSF and very very scary for one that is under $50 and is under 150mm tall. It was a a bit of a pain in the *** to install thanks me to misreading/not reading the directions and my screw driver not being long enough so I had to sort of pry the towers apart. Do as I say, don't do as I do. The middle fan was also hard to get in thanks to the rubber corners on my fan but I managed to wedge it in. The stock fans didn't have this issue. I am pretty sure I got the tightness down just right given the temps.I can do 4.8Ghz at 1.42V and stay around 71C during Prime95 and all on a $46 cooler. I replaced the stock fans since they aren't as good performance wise. If you are looking for a new cooler I would strongly suggest considering this cooler.

Comparing it to my Phantek cooler which did 78.75C on average during Intel burn test with it at 4.7Ghz at 1.35v. The Fuma did the same speed and voltage at around 67C. It could do 4.9Ghz at 1.45V and provide enough cooling during Prime95 but it wasn't stable unfortunately. It stays around 70C during Cienebench.

MSI Gaming M7

It has tons of options/features. I chose it due to the color scheme which you can hopefully tell what it is. I know red and black is over done but you know what, I don't care. I also chose it due to it having a monoblock available for it since I am going to be doing a custom loop some time in the nearish future.

Seagate Barracuda

Its nothing special. Its a 2TB HDD and according to Userbenchmark its quite fast for a HDD. Not much else to say here.

Overclocking

I managed to get my CPU to 4.8Ghz at 1.42V. I could likely get the voltage lower which I will try soonish. During Cienebench, a fairly real world benchmark, the hottest a single core got to was 72C and the average between all cores was 71C which is very impressive. For Prime95 it was only a bit hotter with 77C being the hottest and the average being 75.5C

For the CPU temperature I used Cienebench since its a fairly real world benchmark.

Benchmarks

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1715991

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15031359?

Cienebench: 767

Future upgrades

I am going to be upgrading my case, not exactly sure which one yet. I would love a Caselab case but don't have Caselab money. I can't get anything too wide due to the layout of my desk and I would prefer it to be under $200. I am considering going with a Corsair 780T since I can use two very thick 360MM rads and have more than one HDD and be able to replace the side panel easily in case the windows ever get ****** up or maybe a Primo. I would love to go with a Phanteks Evlov glass but I recently learned while its drop dead sexy its not the best cooling wise and I want the best cooling possible but I could fix the problems so it is still on the table. Not sure when I will get a new case since it would really be pointless to get something so roomy without a bunch of hardware in it.

I will also be sleeving all of my cables although I have no idea when that will start and end since its a big project and it will be my firs time doing it so mistakes would be bound to happen.

I am likely going to be going for a custom loop which will cool the CPU and motherboard. Not sure about the GPU since its fairly cool and I may upgrade in a year or so so I don't want to invest more into into it. I might start out with a cheapish one and upgrade stuff over time.

Part Reviews

CPU

I brought mine from Silicon Lottery, a place that sells binned CPU's. It does 4.8Ghz at 1.42V which is fairly good. Its a great CPU and at 4.8Ghz it is just behind a Haswell i7 in Cinebench and it should beat even a stock i7 6700K in games. It doesn't come with a stock cooler but it kinda of makes sense since if you are buying a unlocked CPU you are most likely going to be overclocking and would be replacing the stock cooler anyways. My only real complaint about is that Intel still uses a crappy TIM for it so it would benefit from delidding if you are into the lowest temperatures possible.

CPU Cooler

God tier cooling, here is a good review of it which I can't really do myself due to lacking coolers to test and compare it to.

Its fairly cheap at $46 at the time of this review and can out perform $100+ AIO coolers and its under 150mm tall. If you need a cooler and don't mind a HSF I would strongly suggest buying this, its a hidden gem and literally nothing in its price range comes close to touching it.

I didn't use the stock fans on the cooler but I am using them as intake fans at 100% speed and I have to say they are decent noise wise. The fans don't have good static pressure although its not bad but I look at it as a good thing since it really allows you to use just about any fan on it.

The front fan likely won't fit with it at the bottom/default position with your RAM but never fear, you can raise it up so RAM clearance really isn't a issue unless you are using high profile RAM since half the fan wouldn't be on the cooler and it would increase the total height of the cooler by a decent amount. Moving the fan up with low profile RAM increases a few mm which is something to keep in mind.

It can support 3 fans if you are into that, check my completed build out for a idea of that it looks like. I did a test of it below.

Mounting pressure is key to its performance. For advice on the tightness of it since you don't want it too tight I just tightened it with a screw driver until it really wouldn't go anymore without putting some force into it, once you start running into resistance tightening it and the cooler doesn't move much or at all I would say that is good enough.

For how much difference fans make I did a test although I did not use the stock fans so I can't say it will apply to them.

Testing methodology

TL:DR I did the best I could and have a above average cooling set up with the fans on my cooler and case.

I had two fans plugged into one header and the other into another header which I just plugged. Not perfect but the fans are a pain in the *** to install so I didn't remove them.

My CPU is a i5 6600K at 1.42V, I could have done lower voltage but I did 1.42V since I feel like that is somewhat more realistic for people but then again I do have ~$89 worth of fans on a sub $50 cooler. Also I have quite a few case fans in my case but all run at a constant speed.
The fans that I used weren't the stock fans but were Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-3000 so they are quite beefy and in fact 3 of them cost more than the cooler itself. I set the fan speed to 3000RPM to remove the variable of varying fan speed during testing. The single controlled fan is in the very rear so its not ideal place so its only affecting one tower airflow wise but the results were still good for it.
I got the temps by averaging the max and min, not ideally but its the best I could think of and it does appear to have worked right since the results do make sense with 1 fan being worse than 2 and two being worse than 3 under load.
I do have the Window open in my room so it is cool and it is the evening the the temp has been dropping so the temp wasn't exactly the same but I did all of the tests within like 10 minutes so the temps shouldn't have changed much. I used Cienebench for testing since its not a pure synthetic test that is only about hammering the CPU with heat and is a realistic workload Now on to the numbers

The numbers

Here is the graph of the data

With two fans the idle was 25.5C which is lower than the first test but I am marking that up to the way I obtained the temperature and/or the outside temperature. The load temperature was 66.75C which is only .5C higher than the 3 fan test which I did find surprising but I thought maybe I hit some sort of threshold with the cooler.

For the single fan test the idle was 27.25C which makes sense that it is a bit higher. For the load temperature it was only 68.75C. That is right. I redid the test twice since I didn't believe it and even checked to make sure the other fans weren't running. I am super surprised that it ran that cool.

Memory

Its fast, not much else to say here.

Storage

According to Userbenchmark it is stupidly fast, as in 98% fast which would put it at 4th place for mine overall which is pretty good. I'm impressed. Only if I didn't get the wrong HDD at first from Amazon but that isn't Seagate fault so no points docked for that.

Comments Sorted by:

Nuckles_56 4 Builds 3 points 31 months ago

That's a very nice build and damn that CPU overclock is good

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Thanks!

ImperiousBattlestar 2 points 31 months ago

Nice build. +1 :)

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Damn nice. Great write up. Now the Fuma is looking like the air cooler for me. Thanks.

Thumbs up, dude!

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thanks. You can't go wrong with it.

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Yep that link with the testing at two different tension settings and different fans along with ram clearance pictures and the height, I'm sold. I added this to my mini itx saved build I want to put together maybe next year. I'm tempted to go ahead and buy it, but all I have so far is the case, an old as dirt radio, thermal paste and a 2 TB hdd.

pegotico 2 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

finally some pictures!!!

WOW you went beast mode with 3 fans on the fuma...

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Yup. I really like my cooling. Thinking about delidding this CPU too and aiming for 4.9Ghz at ~1.47Ghz.

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

1.47V*

tomtomj2 9 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Finally replaced that Athlon, nice build.

+1 :D

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thanks!

tomtomj2 9 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

If you don't mind, I have a question or two about two of your components:

  1. How are the Noctua fans on the FUMA? Any better then the stock fans?
  2. Hows the cooler on the 390?
vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

How are the Noctua fans on the FUMA? Any better then the stock fans?

They seem to be doing quite good.The Noctua fans move more air and have more SP but do so at a higher RPM and I generally run them around 2K RPM under load. As for performance and sound at the same RPM I can't tell you the performance difference since I haven't used the stock fans on the cooler and the Nocuta fans are a ***** to get on thanks to the rubber on them so I won't be testing that. For sound ehh the Nocuta fans and the Sytche fans both seem quiet at the same RPM so I couldn't tell you that.

Hows the cooler on the 390?

Decent. It stays around 80C under full load. That is with it heavily overclocked and the max amount of voltage MSI Afterburner would let me use at default and the fans going at 100%.

tomtomj2 9 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Thanks :)

Monitor 1 Build 2 points 28 months ago

Nice job with the 3 fans on the skythe, I didn't even know that was possible. IIRC CPUs give a hard FPS caps in games. I know overclocking will be different for everyone but I just want to get a rough start. Are you able to find out the max FPS you are getting in a few games with the resolution set to the lowest (Just incase the GPU is bottlenecking. I'll add it to my database and eventually one day release the information of how each CPU performs in various games.

Thanks

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 28 months ago

Thanks!

Any particular games you are interested in? I can do it later today, just message me in like 8 hours to remind me. Also RAM can effect your compute power and mine is at 3200Mhz so that could mess results up comparing it to other CPU's so I will just set it to 2133Mhz so that viable is removed for your testing. Also wouldn't average FPS be better? I will give you max and the average if I can figure out a way to do that.

Monitor 1 Build 1 point 28 months ago

I just realised about the ram just after I sent that message. IF you could lower it that would be great. Avg. would be nice but as you said it may be tricky to figure out, also with my testings the FPS was pretty consistent. I'll try redo my tests to find the minimum and average.

Any games will work.

Also i know view distances can affect the CPU performance. Do you think these experiments should be conducted with maximum view distance? I imagine that is the fairest way to do it.

Stereotypical_Whale 1 Build 2 points 27 months ago

Those front fans, O O O CC D DD D CANNOT COMPUTE CANNOT COMPUTE.

favourxyz 2 points 27 months ago

why change stock fuma fans? any significant difference?

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 27 months ago

Really there shouldn't be much difference given the testing that I've done, 3 fans performed only a few C better than a single fan in theory the worse place possible.

I already had the fans so I didn't buy them just for the cooler and they match my color scheme and it looks overkill.

Zveir 9 Builds 2 points 25 months ago
Wolf88 4 Builds 2 points 17 months ago

Nice build, I really like your cooler setup.

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vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

I am likely to be ordering a new cooler today so if I do I promise I will have pics uploaded by Friday.

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vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

A Scythe Fuma since it does have pretty good bang for your buck since its at ~$46 right now and will allow me to hit 4.8Ghz.

vagabond139 submitter 5 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Done.

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