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This build mostly started with me needing a new PC and wanting to get the highest bang for the buck possible. That said, in my price range the only option was AMD. I've always been curious about the performance of an APU so i decided to go with the flagship Kaveri A10-7850K. So far i have manged very minor overclocking on an FX Series cooler but i plan to pick up water cooling at some point in the future. I'll also be updating with benchmark scores once i run them. As of now i have managed a stable iGPU OC @ 1020, haven't touched the CPU, and OC'd the RAM to 2133 9-10-10-24 @ 1.65.

Any thoughts, questions, or suggestions are welcome. I'd love to know what you guys think.

Ok, so i have ran firestrike and sky diver both on 2133 and 2400. Here are the results:

Sky Diver: 2133: 5927 2400: 6130

Firestrike: 2133: 1536 2400: 1598

These numbers are flat out not good... i was expecting more and i'm honestly thinking i may have some configuration problems.

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  • 60 months ago
  • 5 points
  • 60 months ago
  • 3 points

That was a very good article.

  • 60 months ago
  • 4 points

Getting ready to build a very similar rig, Fractal Arc Mini R2, Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI, Patriot Viper III DDR3 2133 (2X8GB),Crucial MX100 512 GB. My research also shows the APU to be much happier with more RAM. Fury series is very good RAM. I used it in another build.

Overall, nice clean rig!

  • 60 months ago
  • 6 points

not more ram but faster ram (2133 or 2400), 8 gb should be the minimum for gaming..

  • 60 months ago
  • 2 points

Pegotico is right, APU's want fast ram since it is also functions as the VRAM. 4GB should be fine and 8GB should be plenty where 16gb would be overkill and never used in most situations.

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

4GB is really stretching it as as you said it also functions as the VRAM; meaning that the memory is split between the cpu and video. Considering most gaming rigs nowdays run 8gb of RAM with a 2-4gb dedicated video card, I'd consider 10-12GB on an APU the sweet spot.

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

Most gaming PCs still run 4gm of RAM, I have 16gb in mine but I do a lot more then just gaming. 10 and 12 GB would be off pairings of RAM and put unneeded stress on the memory controller and you just might as well go with 16gb but its still overkill. I can agree with 8gb but more is still unneeded.

  • 60 months ago
  • 2 points

APU's usually need a lot of RAM so a RAM upgrade in the future may be good.

  • 60 months ago
  • 2 points

No so much a lot of RAM but fast RAM, 8gb should be enough for anything he is needing. Most gaming rigs only have 4gb RAM with 2gb (maybe 4GB) of VRAM, so this is in line with the average gaming rig aside of not having GDDR5 VRAM.

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually, most gaming rigs have 8GB of ram with 2-4gb of ram on a dedicated card. I'd say 10-12gb would be the sweet spot for an APU.

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

RAM utilization never gets remotely close to max even having 2GB dedicated to the iGPU

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

nice

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

thank you, i like it

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

so do i

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

I was surprised your budget wasn't able to take your farther, until I saw how much you spent on peripherals. I went the opposite direction, but I guess I see the appeal. You don't have to touch your graphics card, right?

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

what exactly do you mean by touch my graphics card? APU's have an iGPU on the physical chip itself rather than a separate dedicated GPU. As for alterations to mine, i am overclocking my iGPU from 720mhz to 1020mhz. It's showing a significant gain from that overclock and i'm very impressed with the APU overall so far.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

What I was saying is that you spent a lot on things you physically touch (mouse, keyboard, headphones).

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

oh... lol

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

The reason for the low score may be because of throttling. The stock cpu cooler is not good for cooling the APU. The minimum fan cooler to get is the CM 212 Evo/Plus. Also make sure C6 state is disabled

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm using the stock cooler off an FX series processor; more specifically, the FX-8320 which is rated at 125 TDP rather than the 95 TDP of the A series

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you use the stock cooler. I just build one and only posted to BIOS so far but the temps were out of control right off the bat. 60+C just in BIOS. Did you notice anything like this??

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

I am currently using the stock FX series cooler as it was designed for 125 TDP instead of the 95 TDP the A series processor comes with. Even on the stock cooler though, my temps were never out of control. I suggest you take a peek at your thermal paste, above and below the shield on the processor

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

I put the fx cooler on last night but did not have time to boot up. Will try tonight. Did you notice if this runs high temp when you get cranking on the graphics? I do have a new after market cooler on hand but its only a 3 pin. That means it only spins at one speed right?

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

My board reads my IAT's around 50-60 so i kind of take that with a grain of salt. I assume it's reading the ambient temperature in the case rather than the core temp on the processor. Sppedfan reads idle at 29-30 and under load anywhere between 45-50. As for the fan on your aftermarket cooler, 3 pin means voltage regulated, 4 pin is mobo regulated.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

That Fractal case looks WAY better than my Bitfenix one, it has way more room to work with and it looks great! It's a shame it's so hard to find their products down here in Brasil...

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

The APU will not put out very good performance by itself and unfortunately the best bet is to add a graphics card. I personally would suggest Nvidia cards for better cost per performance. An entry level Nvidia card I would recommend is the 750 ti, if you wait and watch sales this card usually drops to around $100 almost every month if you want to spend more than that check out these, the order from less to expensive to expensive, NVidia 950, 960, 970, 980, 980 ti also an example check out this firestrike bench with 7850k and NVidia 750 ti at stock speed this person got score of 4303 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4246434

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

forgot to mention although I recommend the Nvidia cards over the amd card for single gpu build you will not be able to add a dual gpu config since the board is only crossfire and sli. If you plan to add dual gpu then you will want to use amd gpu. Nice build btw I just built an FM2+ platform and I really like it. It performs a lot better than people think

  • 60 months ago
  • 0 points