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The slightly Mad Hatter (with more updates!)

by johnc13b

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119 Comments

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Date Published

March 21, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

3.8GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

65.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.91GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

8GHz

GPU Temperature Under Load

60.0° C

Description

Edit 11/03: Added one of my R9 280X Sapphire Vapor-X Tri-X gpus for mining duty. This card started life as a miner card (purchased from a miner back in 2015).

Edit 7/15: Moved the RX480 to a different machine and replaced it with another EVGA GTX 1070 SC. Both 1070s mine when not being used. The secondary card mines full-time while gaming/streaming.

Edit 6/15: Added potato picture of latest "Madness" mod. The RX480 has been mining for the past two months now while the GTX 1070 lets me play games. Both cards end up mining when the computer isn't in use for gaming or video/photo editing.

My old build (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/dZNNnQ) had served me well. She was even updated to an i7 4770K based system this past holiday season. But I felt the need to build something. Something new. And what perfect timing for AMD to release the R7.

I took a chance and pre-ordered the R7 1700X through Microcenter. Day of release, unfortunately, I was the first loser and the customer ahead of me grabbed the last (2) Asus CH6 X370 boards they had. Only other option I had was this Asus B350 Prime Plus. So I downgraded myself to an R7 1700 and called it a day.

Building in the Inwin 303 was a frustratingly fun time. If you've every watched any Youtube review of the case, an ATX motherboard with lower intake fans can be a bit of a challenge to make work. IT'S TIGHT. The center fan and USB3 header on the motherboard needed some counseling so they can work out. At the end of the day, cable management on this is going to be a continuous work in progress. Once ITX motherboards are readily available, I'll go down that route. But for now, this will do.

Part Reviews

CPU

For the price, there's nothing I can really complain about when it comes to its performance. At the moment, the core clock is set to 3.8ghz at 1.325v. Temperatures has not exceeded 65c through stability tests via P95 and Aida64. I may be able to tune the vcore a little better. But for now this will do.

For the tasks I throw at it, so far it hasn't given me any reason to doubt the investment. Whether it's streaming video games or watching movies while playing games, it hasn't given me problems.

CPU Cooler

At the time of purchase, this cooler was offered with a free AM4 adapter. It's currently a placeholder while I wait for AM4 adapters for a Cryorig H7 and Corsair H80i V2. Because of the R7 1700's performance potential under an air cooler, the system may stay air cooled until a full custom loop will be done.

Although it may no longer be the best budget cooler in the market, it still lives up to its name. I managed to overclock this particular R7 1700 to 3.9ghz at just over 1.38v. But that was pushing the 212 Evo to 72c max temperature during stability testing. Dropping it to 3.8ghz at 1.325v stabilizes load temperatures at 65c.

Motherboard

Maybe in the future this board can/will be improved. A very limited (in function) release bios and slow updates from Asus keeps this board from being a very good budget board. In most cases, this probably won't be close to an honorable mention.

Given the lack of support and functions, I was still able to navigate through the bios and achieve a decent overclock (see cooler review for more details).

Memory

As basic as ram can get. It doesn't even have a fancy heat spreader.

Case

In Win is known for their unconventional case layouts and style. And they definitely push those boundaries as far as they can. The 303 is no exception. It incorporates an attic for the psu and exhaust fans. But what makes it creative is its sideways exhaust direction.

But that doesn't come without a few challenges. The bottom fan opening/s does have a dust filter tray. Where that becomes a bit of a headache is if you want to place (3) intake fans AND you have a full size ATX motherboard, those fans and the motherboard's lower connections will interfere with each other. You will have to get creative with some of those harnesses/connections (e.g.: front io and/or usb3 connector).

Another design cue that does get interesting is the attic. You can fit 3 exhaust fans along the panel, but the left most fan will be blowing air directly into your PSU. As for your other two exhaust fans, even if you keep your PSU cables managed, the honeycomb designed cutouts on the back panel seems restrictive.

Overall, I still am completely satisfied with this case and what it brought to the table. You do have to get creative with your cable management. Not only does it have a tempered glass front panel, but it also has an easy removal method which makes doing minor adjustments very easy.

Case Fan

These fans were not the original choice for the build. But upon installation, it was clear it was the right choice. I could have just purchased a single color fan since I keep it static on one particular color, but it's always nice to have a choice in case I change my mood. Also, the orange color fans were hard to come by at the time of purchase.

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LordDiggersby 5 points 14 months ago

+1 just for the fact that you are the first person I've ever seen to use a left handed mouse.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 4 points 14 months ago

The secondary purpose is keeping people off my computer. haha

OfficialWingBro 2 points 14 months ago

I was just about to type that lol

AryanPtl 1 Build 4 points 14 months ago

Super clean build. Also my favourite case! How easy was working with it, I already ordered it myself for my build.

+1 (nice job!)

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

For me, this really was "frustratingly fun" build to put together. Between the PSU chamber and rear panel mounting, routing things definitely needed some more thought than normal. I have two more drives in the rear, one being a mechanical drive. And that really messed up my routing. Still working on it though.

rhali8 2 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

This is pure beauty. Great part selection, and amazing aesthetics.

Take a well earned +1 :)

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Truly appreciate the compliment.

rhali8 2 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Featured! Congrats man! :)

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Thanks! Definitely caught me by surprise XD

steelenoose 3 points 14 months ago

+1 for fans looking like bloodshot eyes lmao

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

At first I didn't know how it would turn out. I originally planned for the Thermaltake Riing fans. In the end, they worked out for the better. The glass panel is tinted a little more than I expected.

Someone referenced Majora's Mask when they saw the lights. I may experiment with the lights and see what I can come up with.

steelenoose 2 points 14 months ago

Majora's Mask!! That's what I was thinking!!

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I tried it out the other night.

http://imgur.com/0aY9JcZ

manirelli staff 8 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

How loud are the fans? We found our system pretty loud due to the oddly shaped holes Inwin used to pass the air through.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

I can confirm. The exhaust chamber does make the fan hum more noticeable. Although I seem to be noticing something else. I may have to test with fans with anti-vibration feet. But it seems the fans cause a resonance in the case and/or the glass panel. I can closely associate it with a bad wheel bearing on a car humming at highway speed.

vagabond139 5 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

You might even say this build is mad.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Soon, I will rebuild Alice and they can play nice together.

MuchLinux6500 2 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Wow! What a clean build!

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you =)

kuglern 3 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

nice build I love that case the only reason I didn't get it myself was because of the cable management on the front side.

It turned out super nice great pictures.

+1

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Yes, the cable management in this case was definitely puzzling. But I think that's why I chose this case. Still much to do in that aspect.

Donutman125 2 points 14 months ago

this thing looks amazing. +1.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you for the kind words.

What's your favorite, non-traditional donut?

lehmkuhj 2 points 14 months ago

The overall aesthetic of this build, this case, and the brick is absolutely stunning! Happy to see another Ryzen build as well. Great Job!

Vreaker12 3 Builds 3 points 14 months ago

My thoughts exactly! Nice build and how it fits against the brick wall and desk setup is jus amazing. Congrats on the feature. +1

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Thank you. Greatly appreciated!

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lehmkuhj 2 points 14 months ago

*site?

cringey? as in we are all actively cringing? Or that you are cringing as you go through this site?

If you are cringing as you go through the site, the easiest fix would be, of course, stop going to the site :D

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manirelli staff 8 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Keep it polite or don't comment on this site.

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fletcherhub3 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

Nice build, lefty ;)

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Cheeky XD

I've had people get triggered because of that position.

MjolnirThunder 2 points 14 months ago

That's one thicc GPU.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

It started life as a reference RX480. I did the cooler mod by installing a Zalman VF3000N.

dragoon20005 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

interesting mod there

I didnt expect the nVidia version of the cooler to fit on the RX480

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

The nVidia version of the cooler fits evenly on all sides with the RX480. The ATI version sticks out about 2cm past the blower fan side of the gpu.

SFX_MODz 8 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

I was going to say, that doesn't look like any RX 480 XXX OC I've ever seen (I have one myself), but this explains all. Nice build!

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Thanks!

This was the only cooler mod that didn't require grinding the base plate above one of the ram chips while still able to keep the back plate. The only thing that needed to be cut was the metal frame around the 6 pin and create a notch for a heat pipe on a corner of the base plate.

dragoon20005 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Congrats on getting featured!

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

I was in the middle of responding to Manirelli's comment when I F5'd. This comment is how I found out XD Thanks

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Crofter 5 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Out of interest did you try the stock RGB ring fan? I have heard on forums it is close to equivalent to the Hyper 212.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Your results may vary. But after a 30 minute stability test, a round of 10 minute video renders, and an hour of gaming, I got an overall lower max temp. out of the Evo in its current configuration.

Kurajber 2 points 14 months ago

You got those Corsiar fans just for the looks. 120 dollars, and build is 830. Why man, why? And that 33 dollar cablemod. I mean it looks great but so much money just for the looks.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

To each his own. It won't be the last time I spend money on it. It will continually change. There's an overall theme somewhere there. But at the end of the day, I get to call it mine.

Dr4wF0ur 2 points 14 months ago

Why wouldn't you want looks to match the specs?

Fleetleader101 2 points 14 months ago

What a creapy look!

Dr4wF0ur 2 points 14 months ago

*creepy

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

The build idea is The Mad Hatter (Johnny Depp). It will get there eventually.

Fleetleader101 2 points 14 months ago

Oh I got it, man that thing is like looking into the soul of the devil lol.

uberlizard 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

This looks fantastic! One question- did you move your entire setup outside for the photos?

specifically photo 7

looks brilliant though.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Our living area is right behind the desk behind mine. The photos were taken right after assembly. There's a TV there that I used for post. The last two pictures are with it on my desk.

AC1DFOX 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Love Love how clean it all looks. Exceptional job and that case is a stunner. I am also surprised about the lighting consistency in those fans, I love the distinct, clear, even color distribution you are getting, without the pinpoint brightness common in many fans. +1 for the great photos as well. Beautiful.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Thanks! From all the input I've gotten, these fans really bring you in. To be honest, they actually were not my first choice. But I'm definitely glad I picked them in the end.

Vince_aviator 2 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Nice build, as well as that last photo of Michael Schumacher lol

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

That orange helmet.

Sitting anywhere by the hairpin was music to your ears. You got the whole spectrum of those engines. Haven't been back since the new Turbo V6s

Tamriel_Bound 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

Great googly moogly... Those fans... I just might now switch out my AERs for those, holy canoli

+1 fan selection. 10/10, would look again

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

There was a booth at Pax East recently that had a wall of these fans. I'm sure it would have triggered someone with trypophobia. And that's when I knew these were the fans to get. My original plan was to get the Riing Light2 from Thermaltake.

Tamriel_Bound 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

My original plan was the Riings as well, but then the AERs came out, with all of their RGB syncing glory. But those Corsairs just look so. Damn. Good. I cant find them in air flow form though, only static pressure.

Lord_Arni 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Nice build with very nice case In Win 303. I have the same !

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

The unconventional chamber design/s were what drew me in. It took a few weeks to really decide. But after seeing a few builds on here, I had to have it.

Lord_Arni 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

I had won my :)

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

So lucky! I think my favorite overall feature is the glass panel. So easy to remove for minor adjustments.

ChuckyLucky11 2 points 14 months ago

A pretty but powerful pc.

Rajenator 2 points 14 months ago

+1 well done! :)

lorenzoi 2 points 14 months ago

How much did this cost in the end?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

For all the brand new pieces, it was actually a lot less than the parts list reflect. Microcenter usually drops the motherboard price by $30 when you buy a cpu with it.

Everything else was taken from those older builds. If I had to take their retail price at the time of purchase, it would probably be another $350-400 for the GPU, 2x SSDs, and 1x HDD. The PSU was from a trade.

XFacility 2 points 14 months ago

Absolutely beautiful build, so clean and I love the SP120 RGB fans :D +Rep

Zukhan 2 points 14 months ago

I have that same mouse and monitor, and I'm planning to get the 1700 and the In Win 301 when it comes out... very similar

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I got to see that 301 at Pax recently. I might consider it for a travel rig. The chassis on these cases are pretty beefy.

Faasos 2 points 14 months ago

When someone built almost exactly what you built. I have litterally the same but with 8gb g.skill aegis a 850 evo instead of 840 and a different PSU. Even the same Fans. lol.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

That's actually pretty awesome. Planning on putting the build on PCPP?

Faasos 2 points 14 months ago

Nah, gonna build a new PC later this year. Waiting for that :)

EDIT: Parents are divorced. Need two PC's. Probably gonna use some parts from the almost the same rig as yours :p

Weeaboo_Slayer 2 points 14 months ago

That 480 is mad T H I C C.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

...that's what she said?

But in all seriousness, the RX480 was another release day impulse buy. Matched to my 144hz monitor, temperatures climbed higher and it sounded like I had a Concorde supersonic jet in my computer. Somehow stumbled upon the VF3000N VGA cooler mod, and couldn't be happier... for now.

claudiuskt 1 Build 2 points 14 months ago

TFW a WIP is more bootiful than your finished build

cries in the corner

+1

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Aw don't cry. Going by your words, you built yours. And that's where the accomplishment really lies.

Unfortunately, there was a shortage of components available during the Ryzen release. And I'll be pushing extra shifts and running on ramen to get the pieces I had planned for. Hence the WIP part. That's where it'll get truely "Mad."

Randallel 2 points 14 months ago

How did you mount that bottom fan to the far left? Did you have to take out the leg? Thanks.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yes, the feet have to be removed to access those fan holes. The feet have a rubber insert you remove to get to the philips head screw.

Lord_Arni 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Very nice build, very clean and good looking ! I have the same case from In Win but i have Micro ATX motherboard on it:)

lurkchard 2 points 14 months ago

How was overclocking on that motherboard?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Not too bad overall. But other B boards definitely have more options for fine tuning.

lurkchard 2 points 14 months ago

You think it would be better going with an x370 boards?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I plan on moving over to an X370 once they're more readily available for sure.

lurkchard 2 points 14 months ago

yeah im looking to get the $200 gigabyte one or the asrock taichi but cant decide.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Both the Gaming 5 Auros and Taichi were on the top of my list. But I may move to an ITX board in this case. It's a waiting game for sure.

Flyrobot27 2 points 14 months ago

Thumbs up for your f1 wallpaper

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

Thanks! Montréal was a great experience. That was the time I first got into photography. We have plans on Austin this year as Montréal conflicts with a few things this year.

lorenzoi 2 points 13 months ago

Does your CPU cooler need a mounting adapter?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

I got the 212 Evo at time of release because Microcenter was giving the AM4 adapter for free with purchase. I'm currently waiting on both a Corsair and Cryorig bracket though.

James9oo0 2 points 13 months ago

omg omg omg omg. Bruh. BRUHHH. It's too good, it's not okay. You can't be building something that looks this good.

Phenomenal build man well done

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

Greatly appreciate the compliments!

At the moment, I'm custom sleeving my cables. Don't have much time between work and kids. Once that's finished, I'm going to tear it down again. I'm going back and forth on whether I want the white interior. Slowly but surely, it'll get there.

Ordinarily_great 2 points 13 months ago

Wow! Actually what is the VGA price?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

The cooler was about $25 usd at the time.

Battlefield 2 points 13 months ago

When you say "creative" with the usb3 connection...what do you mean? I have my system built, but waiting on bottom fans. I'm already seeing a major issue and might have to leave out the middle fan. Any help? thx

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

With this particular motherboard, it sits directly between the two left fans. There was enough room to run the cable between the corners of the fans. It's hard to describe. But I also twisted the flat cable 90° to run against the fans to leave room for the other cables.

JcGoLd28 2 points 12 months ago

Why are some of the parts 0 dollars?

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

The storage drives are from builds over 2 years ago (the ssds don't have accurate pricing anymore I believe). The PSU was from a trade. And the RX 480 was purchased on release day, also from a build I completed 2 years ago.

JcGoLd28 1 point 12 months ago

Ohh ok thx bud

Gutta 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

+1, Been a while since I last saw a left hander.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

proud to show the world how it works XD

skyrise 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

Wooooow, interesting case man.

+1 for the Ryzen R7 1700.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

When they first announced it, it drew me in for being quirky, for sure. What sold me was the easy to remove glass.

samerlol 2 points 7 months ago

+1 for this build

coolguy562 2 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Awww man I'm sad now. Bought a Define R5 about a year ago, even though I love it, I wish I got that Inwin. Probably wasn't out then though. Beautiful nonetheless. If I were to make a suggestion, see if you can get the GPU cables to go behind the motherboard tray parallel to the 24pin instead of behind it. But I don't know how the cutouts are positioned so maybe that isn't possible.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I still have to go and do more cable managing. But that cutout is awkwardly placed and isn't that large. I can see it being flipped with the 24-pin tucking in tighter with the Pcie on the outside/right of it. I have two drives behind and above that cutout so it took a bit of planning to route. Definitely appreciate the suggestion! I'm going to work on it as soon as the kids go to bed.

Lyrix 1 point 14 months ago

1+! damn! nice build! looks great!

Datmurican 1 point 10 months ago

I think you could have saved money on the power supply 850 was more than you need a 450 or even 500 would have been better and give you a little space to upgrade

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

The PSU stemmed from my older system that had 2x R9 280X Trixx GPUs. The RX 480 has since moved to my s/o's PC, and mine now house 2 EVGA GTX 1070 SCs (I know, it's a B350 mobo). I always knew I wasn't going to keep the RX card in here. The target was always the 1070 before the build gets a bit "madder."

I need to do an updated photo shoot for sure.

gageadkins14 1 point 4 months ago

this is sexy

KingGigns 1 point 22 days ago

In regards to the motherboard what would you suggest as an alternative for that price range? the build it would be for is a ryzen 2600x, gtx 1060 6gb, 16gb ram 3200hz, most likely a stock cooler at first.

johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 10 days ago

I should have updated the list. I went over to the Asus Strix-B350F when my old psu kicked the bucket (it took the mobo with it). It wasn't much different in price at the time.

I also haven't kept up with the new/er X470 boards so I'm not sure how much better they are suited to run the 2xxx cpus vs the 1xxx cpus.

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Yes, I believe 0513 was the 4th bios for the motherboard. I would have to fact check, but I believe most B350 boards at the moment only do offset mode for vcore? Future updates may add the ability, but I guess that's what they want to do so it differentiates the different mobo teirs.

I settled on 3.8ghz with a +0.125 offset for the time being. I haven't tried a max oc yet as time hasn't been on my side. The cpu was stable at 3.9ghz on the 0503 bios with a +0.1500 offset.

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

I believe there are still some discrepancies when it comes to CPU-Z reporting. My results will show over 2 vcore when I validate. But it will show VID if I haven't opened the HWInfo app beforehand. So it hasn't been consistent for me. Talk about early adopter circumstances.

The short of it, from what I managed to find online, VID is a min/max range the cpu has from the factory that's used with factory settings. Seems as though once you oc over turbo boost speed, it just reports the max (1.55) but doesn't actually take in that voltage. I'm definitely not an expert in the matter, but that's what I've gathered and for the most part users have said to disregard it.

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 2 points 14 months ago

you just gave me an idea that I can use on my kids' pc. XD

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 4 points 14 months ago

I received a few references to Majora's Mask. So I tried it out.

Dr4wF0ur 3 points 14 months ago

now you just need to tape yellow spikes to your pc :P

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

I think this case would scratch my brick. Haha. But it's got some good distance.

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johnc13b submitter 4 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

Puns are the key to my <3

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