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The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

by Eltech

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120 Comments

Details

Date Published

June 18, 2015

Date Built

June 14, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

3.6GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

25.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

59.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.22GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

5.01GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

59.0° C

Description

  • The Wizard of Oz says hello. The great and powerful Oz.

  • This was built for my mother. She loves green colors so I thought, why not build her a good computer and make it pop with green? My mom calls her computer Oz but I'll explain about that in a moment. Parts were gradually bought from February and March. I will try my best to summarize instead of blabber too much since I had a lot of pictures.

  • I'm showing the finished build ahead of time from photo numbers 1-16. The rest of the photos shows the process of the finished build but internally.

  • This build alone is $689.98. I'm actually happy on how it turned out. This computer will be used for Office work and mostly for personal use to watch movies, stream, Netflix and gaming. There is currently 10 light games installed, and the only thing that is something different and new for her would be the Telltale Game. The Walking Dead, Season 1. I do foresee more games in this build in the future but my guess is very light games.

My two cents about the parts:

Optical Drive

LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer

  • I was originally going to paint the optical drive to a bright green. However, I asked my Mom first by showing the PC ahead of time and I couldn't hide it any longer, she thought it looked better without it. Her computer reminds her of the wizard of Oz. (Because of the face on the optical drive and the case is so green with a hint of black. She loves green to death. Seriously... I'm really dead serious...) So hence forth it's name: Oz, The Wizard of Oz. "We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz!" Sorry, I may have quoted that incorrectly.

  • It's a pretty looking optical and it's nice to have a change of appearance. I got this from Newegg when a promo sale occurred. I'm glad I didn't install a plain DVD optical because it would have looked... meh.


CPU

Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core

  • So far it's been a great processor to have! It's also nice to have the speedy multi-tasks that it can do with the needs. I would recommend this i3 processor for darn sure! With everyday daily tasks, it runs quite great and its temperatures have been good! I would definitely buy this processor again if I could, but anyone getting this $120 and below is smart to grab this.

  • The average temperatures for simple daily tasks is seen around 30~35° C. The 59° C came from the result of Valley Benchmark and seem to stay steady there when testing the GPU.


Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150

  • I actually had no intention to grab this motherboard for my mother since this was originally going to be used for my sister's build. I didn't get that Pentium G3450 or the Celeron G1830 processor so I didn't want to waste this MOBO. I'm actually surprised with it and I also did get my $10 dollar rebate from this.

  • It does not have two 4-pin System Fan connectors, ONLY ONE. I think it's a major downfall so far but there are solutions here too. It covers the basic needs. The BIOS is F1 but there is another BIOS known as F2. It supposedly resolves those who install Windows 10 and have the G3258 Pentium processor. The F1 BIOS works so no update required and if you are used to basic BIOS interfaces then it's not too difficult to navigate.

  • For the price that I got it for, its reasonable enough despite the minor setback. I do recommend to not pay pass $50 for this MOBO. Especially if you are in a tight budget and need a good basic MOBO. Just be aware of what you pay for and do your research before rating this "zero" or one star which I do not think it deserves such a rating. Lastly, I would suggest to add the extra features with this MOBO to help with calibrations, updates for BIOS, or checking temperatures etc.


Memory

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600

  • I was extremely excited to try this memory for the first time! I heard great things about Crucial and I love it so much! CAS Latency is 9, which is great and no XMP required! It already detects the 1600 speed. I can definitely say that Cruical RAM is great to have and I will buy more in the future.

  • I also love how simple and clean it appears. I needed some more green too, to help add more green with the different colors in-between. It's also good to have the option to add another stick of RAM down the road if needed. This explains my reasoning for a single RAM.


SSD

Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" SSD

  • Wow! It's absolutely amazing! It almost feels about the same comparing with my 850 pro. This SSD boots in 3 seconds and about 5~7 seconds to load up Windows 8.1! I'm very impressed with this EVO so grab one if you can afford it!

  • It's used to hold Windows 8.1, additional programs and MS Office 2013. My mom uses Word and Excel often so she needs Office for work. PLEASE USE the Samsung Magician, it helps your SSD so much! I would recommend these for anyone else who wants something close to par with the 850 Pro but being able to keep within budget.


HDD

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM

  • It's a Blue Western Digital storage but I love it a lot. The speed of 7200 rpm, space of 1 Terabyte, makes it perfect and plenty for its purpose. It's not as fast as the Black Series but it's still fast enough for processing anything. It's currently storing games, photos and backups data.

GPU

EVGA GeForce GTX 750 2GB SuperClocked

  • NOTES @ 1/12/2016: This GPU has been updated to a GTX 1050.

  • I got a rebate for 20 dollars when I purchased this card a few months ago. The ti at the time was asking around $140~$150, hence the reason. I'm actually very impressed with this little card! I know it's not a ti, and yes I would prefer the ti over the regular but it's still pretty good!

  • Doesn't require any 6-pin PCI cable connector and it's compact. I like the clean look and it's good enough for what it will be used for. So I'll mention it here again, wanted to give her the experience of a decent graphics when she starts installing more games down the road. A simulator, light games, Steam, etc.

  • With Valley Benchmark, the average FPS in low quality settings was 70-80. The average FPS in medium quality was 60-70. Lastly, the average FPS in high quality was 50-60. They all could reach pass 110 FPS by certain environments in the benchmark but in the end of it all, I think it's a good card to nab with the i3 paired by its side. I do recommend it for some basic gaming if this is on sale and the ti version isn't easily attainable, but do double check on what list of games that it could play and what it cannot.

  • The average temperatures for simple tasks was at 27° C. Again, with the 59° C came from the result of Valley Benchmark in High Quality settings. No, I didn't OC this GPU and I wouldn't recommend it when paired with this type of PSU. Right now, this is connected by an HDMI with a TV that displays in a resolution of 1920x1080, 60Hz. Adjustments on how icons and size was displayed but so far it's working great and the audio truly works.

  • Here's also a chart of the GTX 750 for a general idea on FPS from NVIDIA's website. Of course, take it as a grain of salt.


Fans

Corsair SP120 Fan & Corsair SP140 Fan

  • I had intended to install 3 fans but the 3-way fan splitter did not work, hence only two fans were running. I had a spare 2-way fan splitter which works perfectly, and probably for the best. I'm not surprised to see no improvement with two fans working close together, an intake and exhaust didn't halt the cooling on the CPU but slowed it down. It basically works better with the end result since an adjustment was needed.

  • I could make a suggestion on one thing but take my word as a grain of salt since I cannot test this yet. I would place a third fan that is exhausting, where the back top/GPU is. Get a MOBO that has more System Fans if possible, at least two or more. Or buy a mod that you can stick onto the case to have a 3 or 5 way fan to keep it cool within the case.

  • The bottom fan, closest to the PSU, is an intake. The exhaust is the back fan. It's actually doing a great job so far and the green led is a nice touch. They don't run too loud since RPM averages at 800. Even when the RPM goes higher it's not bad at all, hits around 1100 RPM if going to test it with Valley Benchmark.


Case

BitFenix Prodigy M Vivid Green MicroATX Mini Tower

  • So this is literally my first time spending a lot on a case and it is quite the difference. I had sadly scratched the case's side twice, where the power/reset buttons and the 3.0 USB connector is. First time I dropped the side case on accident on a screwdriver, and the second time was dropping it on the table.

  • The side covers are kinda heavy and awkward once you cable management and zip-tie down a lot. However, they are easier to re-install them back into place if the case is laying onto its side. I blame myself for my klutzy results, not even my previous builds had this much drama.

  • It's a great looking case, but quite a puzzle to cable manage. I removed the three-hold 2.5 storage cage to make extra space for the cables. I tried with it in but I discovered it was only obstructing the space. I unscrewed it and gently bend in one side of it to pop it out with ease. I'll keep it around in case I need to reinstall it but I doubt I will to be honest.

  • The one thing that might bother some, is the side panel that can hold three 2.5 storage and two 3.5 hard drives. I get it, it blocks the beautiful view of your hardware inside. However, let me say one thing... you don't get to see your GPU too well either so... I kinda think it comes down to preferences. I doubt this PC is going to be purposely placed in an angle to see the window view but I wanted that nice green glow effect. I like the case on how it appears a lot, but again it's a puzzle at times.


PSU

Corsair 450W ATX12V / EPS12V

  • I was super happy to get this deal, rebate for 30 dollars off! I did mess up on one thing, I missed the promo code for an extra 3 dollars off... >Smacks her forehead< I still saved a lot but every penny counts.

  • So far I had no issues with this power supply and would get more semi-modulars in the future. Cables are easy to manage and this is plenty enough for the purpose of this build. If I ever need to upgrade it I will but I don't see a need anytime soon for additional storage. If I get the word "I need more storage" then I will upgrade it but I truly doubt this will occur in 2~4 years. Of course, I could be wrong?


Wireless Network Adapter

Rosewill RNX-N250UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0

  • I am sort of repeating myself with the WiFi but remember to not install Rosewell's WiFi driver and let Realtek handle the WiFi. Here is what I think about this bulky little WiFi. Also I'll name him "Toto", credit goes to auldae for the cleverness. I did get a promo from this too in Newegg so I saved some dollars!

  • Toto has two ways to install it. USB alone or you can attach him with the USB stand as I have normally done and prefer it. Toto is big for an external WiFi plug and ready to go. I did not install the driver hence it's literally detected and ready to connect to a WiFi router.

  • I did a quick rough idea with this measurement but about 96 feet which I still receive 4~5 bars. No lag or stutters. It's going through a level floor up and 3 walls. I have been impressed with Toto before and I am once again. I'm certain Toto will perform well for those who may need a strong WiFi reception. Just make sure to leave him in the basket in-case you need to adjust the reception. :)


CPU Cooler

Intel's Stockfan

  • (At the bottom of the list, and why am I even mentioning this? ... You do notice something in the photos, right?) I swapped out the CPU fan which was a Rosewell product and went back to the stock default. The Rosewill RCX-Z90-CP had issues: I suspect the weight was too much for this MOBO and the height may have effect the contact, in-between the center of the processor.

  • Again, I couldn't get the RCX-Z90-CP to fully contact onto the center of the i3. I tried re-seating five times but the temperatures wouldn't show improvement. Of course, the evidence was extremely obvious because the center of the thermal compound remained untouched.

  • Also another obvious hint was seeing the processor reaching to 72 Celsius when running Valley Benchmark at High settings. Not even my grandma's i3 went that high so I knew it had to be the heat-sink. Sorry, I know it's an Intel stock fan but for now it's working and better temps than what I had before. No more spiky temperatures, and it's definitely in the comfort zone. I had to sleeve the stockfan's wires.

  • Why did I use it last in the first place? I guess... my worst reason was: I got too distracted since I forgot to grab the right CPU fan. Too much excitement to build my mom's computer got the best of me... I built this PC in the basement from Saturday and Sunday Morning & Evening. I had relocated it back to my room since I needed my heat-gun and a big box to properly do a sleeve.


Personal Notes

  • I would like to do some minor tweaking on the cable management in the future, but I'm a bit clueless. I actually don't know what to do, to be honest here. Either I had installed the side panel to hold the storage or not, I had no complaints so far with my mother. Actually I was even surprised that my father liked the build too, so I'm not going to change it anytime soon. It's just wishful thinking on my end to do better with this case but I have not yet comprehend the format.

  • Maybe I'll reinstall the SSD cage but I hate it sucking space away since I tried with it and it made it easier without it. I'll try again another time. I also don't think the angle of the window will be viewed anytime soon since it's going to be tucked away somewhere.

  • My major concerns were the temperatures and it's airflow so the priority was more important to manage the cables. I wanted everything pulled to the side, basically, so I adjusted with so many wires around the sides. I like seeing the System Temperature hitting the 33 Celsius range. I just wish the logo on the stockfan was green or black to match the color scheme so it minorly bugs me but it doesn't bother my mom. Then again... there is a blue LED on the side so I cannot complain too much.

  • I truly wish I had better input here but I didn't installed any demanding games and hard-working programs. Hence the Valley Benchmark helped some here. I'll update anything more if need be. Thank you for taking your time to read this. Any feedback, questions and constructive criticism is welcome here.

Comments Sorted by:

geogeodude 8 points 30 months ago

You know when you're a true PC enthusiast when you put this much care and love into a machine that'll be used for office work, movies and some Steam games.

Respect.

Kiing_Hiipo 2 points 29 months ago

Respected.

+1

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Wow, thank you so much! That means a lot to me. And I wish I could give you a prize because you actually nailed it right on the head, for the purpose of this build. Here's a virtual >High-five< right at you. :)

geogeodude 2 points 30 months ago

I wonder what would happen if someone missed a virtual high five.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Good question. I really don't know... It would be a miss is all I can say.

geogeodude 2 points 30 months ago

"Here's a virtual high five!"

misses

falls

dies

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

"Noooo!"

Ksongs 2 Builds 5 points 30 months ago

I would've avoided the Gtx 750, but still a great build and you seemed to have done your research. Also love the LED and looks clean inside so +1 we also don't see many featured builds that are budget builds so great job!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I totally understand and agree. I would have preferred the GTX 750 ti over the 750 but it's not that bad but ti is very much better indeed. Budget was my main concern, and tried to focused with the Intel/NVIDIA aspect for work and personal entertainment. It's also my fault for forgetting to mention this but I got this GTX 750 with a rebate for 20 dollars, few months ago now. At the time I saw GTX 750 ti around 140 or 150 I believe. So I'm not saying this 750 is so yummy that I love it to death and I want more like a box of ding dongs. It does works is all I meant but no worries.

Sadly my hawk skills failed since the ti has been on sale for some time but it's all good, no more money to spend on this. Yes a gift from me to my mother. I belated gift so to speak to make up for lost time on mother's day and her birthday. I'm so damn horrible there... bad-bad. I truly appreciate your comments and thank you very much. I never expected to be featured... so thank you very much. :)

Ksongs 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

I completely understand man and its an excellent gift great job again!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you so much!

Eschaton 6 Builds 4 points 30 months ago

Rename it to "Emerald City" and tell us more about that little wifi dongle.

auldae 1 Build 5 points 30 months ago

Also, rename the dongle "Toto." Dope build for that case. Extra props for dealing with that side-panel-mounted USB hub and only scratching it twice.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Thank you so much! And I love your cleverness here, credit goes to you for the WiFi being named Toto. :)

Connor_The_Gamer 2 points 11 months ago

I like that case too. Although the color is like a mix of a booger and Razer green, I still like it.

Godzlegend1 2 points 30 months ago

little wifi dongle.

I was wondering the same thing..... Maybe the company has gone the NFl/Rugby route?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Great name suggestion here! I cannot for two reasons, one is, my mother called it Oz. Two is once you post a "Completed Build" officially, cannot change the title. Unless I deleted this. :)

And OK I will talk about the WiFi some more. I actually reviewed about it before in the past, with my mini AMD build computer but I will see on what I can do. I try to avoid "redundancy" when I talk about the products I purchased and have experienced with, on this site but you have a fair question about the WiFi. I'll try to add this later on but I'll answer it here.

How do I summarize it... basically it's an amazing WiFi despite it looks... you know... as auldae mention, "Toto" by the way thank you for your cleverness auldae. Because Toto's reception is beyond expectation. I quickly took a measurement just now, a rough idea, but from the WiFi to the WiFi Router. I can each around 96 feet with no sweat on lag or basically I'm not stuttering and not waiting for two or three seconds to load a webpage. I get five bars, I should have doubled checked the kbps so I have no memory on what is shown.

I don't have a great WiFi router at this moment but you have my permission to laugh at it since I do everyday... and every night... and I cry in my bed later on. I am taking a guess here with a 10 year old WiFi router but maybe it's in the 46~54 kbps rate.

Toto may be "cute" but we know we can lay the basket down to the side and say good boy, now stay and don't move. Good boy Toto! Sorry if this doesn't answer enough to your question.

If you want a strong WiFi reception despite it may seem bulky and distasteful at times. it's actually great and since I got a promo for this WiFi this saved some cash and it had to be a wireless N. Even though it also supports G and B, it's just impressed me with the fast process for web surfing so much.

Eschaton 6 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Thanks for the info!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

You are welcome! Thank you for your question.

ziggurat666 7 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

Gratz on Featured build and pretty little Mid range/Day to day system. Secondly... I am buying one of those little lamp lights. Good job :) Hope Momma is proud. I would be

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you so very much! I can't believe I did, because I'm a nobody. And don't make me cry now. I had to make up for not giving her two presents this year... and I intend to give her more in July when I'm in Africa. I hope I made her proud somehow. I think I did... I know she loves her computer. :)

maggotshero 10 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

nope, you quoted it right, I mean, there's more, but thats the main part of the song.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Phew! Thank goodness... yes that's true too.

PhatTuna 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

Nice build. LOTS OF PICURES! If pcpartpicker ever goes down, I'll be blaming you, lol

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

LOL!!! I can take the fall. I can handle it.

Of course, there are others who have more then me. I wish I was brave enough to post 200 pictures like others before me but I won't. I only have around 450~ photos with this build total so I tried to narrow it down. :)

Geode1010 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

"Never say too many pictures!"

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I second this!!

Lepchin 3 points 30 months ago

This is great! Congrats on getting featured! :D

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you so much!! I'm still shocked it somehow happened.. no idea how but I'm glad it was my mom's build! Thank you. :)

Lepchin 3 points 30 months ago

Did you tell your mom it got featured?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Yes, I did. She said she was proud of me. :)

when I saw it finally posted, after 2 hours later since I was wondering where it was. Normally my build would be done at 40 minutes at my end so I was a little worried if my internet messed up or something. Looks like this was the why on the delay.

TheEthernet 6 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

Nice build, very detailed! Is this Prodigy case different from the others? I remember the window panel being on the other side.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you so much! I tried to be detailed enough but hopefully not too overwhelming. I am willing and able to yap in the comments or maybe update some more if need be for the description.

You are correct about the window panel. However it feels kinda an awkward placement for my taste. So I doubt Oz will be showing off his parts anytime soon but he does glow green softly at least. Not that I really want that stock fan to show off to be honest...

I know there is another version out there, and I almost got this green version. BitFenix Prodigy MicroATX Tower Case Green instead of this one but I wanted to try the one with a window.

Also some of the advertisement did confuse the heck out of me in the past. I did get this one, BitFenix Micro ATX, Mini-ITX Motherboard Cases BFC-PRM-300-GGWKK-RP Green hence it's what you do see now but if take a look at the photos from Amazon... I was pretty darn confused but I took a gamble. So I think back to your question, I'm pretty sure you are right, it's different. I haven't seen enough of them but to me it appears to be different kinds out there. Not just the colors available out there but how they appear also.

I know currently I have # 1 out of 19 of this case.

Crowlin 3 points 30 months ago

Hey just wondering about the buttons being on the side of the case, does that make it a pain to open up and clean or move connections?

At first it seemed really cool from the outside, but the logistics might make it a hassle. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Why, what an excellent question!

It may appear as an interference at first, but the only culprit that I struggled with when it came to the wires was always... always the 3.0 USB connector and then the SSD cage next to it. It made it horrifically worse because my 24-pin connector of the PSU was hugging up to the side. The rest of the wires are easy to pull to the side and haven't interfered my cable management. Sadly that 3.0 USB connector and the 2.5 x3 SSD cage for darn sure did the whole time. When I tried to re-install the side with the cables zip-tied at the back of the case and curled up like worms, that 3.0 USB and SSD cage... good grief.

Forgot to mention this since you asked about it too. Is it hard to open and clean the case with these connectors? Yes it is when you zip-tie any of them. I sure did so it's a pain, cleaning is not too hard but it's going to be difficult once you intend to pull these wires to the side with a zip-tie. Could use velcro straps which could make it easier and less of a hassle.

Gracodana 3 points 30 months ago

Really nice pc very aesthetically pleasing, if the person using the pc didn't need more power good job putting it into something like the appearance.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you so much! And yes you are correct, she doesn't need a budget that can do the latest high end gaming. She will eventually add some more games even a possible simulator and other programs that she will need for work.

elviss22 3 points 30 months ago

Very cool build! I like the case alot

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Why thank you so much! I'm glad you like it.

elviss22 3 points 30 months ago

I am ordering parts to build my brother a PC now! Unfortunately it won't be this case but I'm still excited!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Whoo-hoo! I'm cheering you on there! Enjoy the process and I'm certain your brother will appreciate your service for the new PC.

wllmgrms 1 Build 3 points 30 months ago

3 things:

I love the choice of case.

I love the choice of GPU.

I love the choice of RAM.

lol. I have a build close to this in my saved parts list, just slightly more geared towards gamer and upgrades. Love all of it, it looks great! For a while now I have been wanting to do a budget build with a 750 Ti ( I know you went with regular 750), I think it's a fantastic choice for light gaming and super low power consumption, AND small form. I think the CPU was a good choice too. For daily tasks and light gaming, I would take an i3 over an AMD any day... no need to go with those old AMD chips lol. Hopefully one day I can make a build out of these parts, whether for me or someone else! Kudos! +1

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Wow, amazing! Thank you so much for sharing this. I genuinely and appreciate your support! Right I would agree with you here, not that I have too much issues with AMD but because I have seen the i3 in action for quite some time... OK I'm sorry grandma, I'm dead guilty of stealing your computer... It's so addicting to play with those i3s, hehe. Cannot wait to upgrade her PC since I got something better but in due time.

Yes, I love the i3 and I have been impressed with what you can do with them. And I'm certain you will be able to build soon! You just keep on dreaming, work hard and make it happen. :)

UWillParish 1 Build 3 points 30 months ago

now just swap the case for a blue one and call it the great and powerful trixie

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Oh, my goodness... lol

UWillParish 1 Build 3 points 30 months ago

lol, nice build though

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you very much! :)

Zeoheart 3 points 30 months ago

I just grabbed a 250GB 850 evo, now I'm even more excited to get it :D

Nice built, you did a very good job with the colors.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

You won't regret having that solid state drive. And thank you very much! :)

convertedconsolegamer_92 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

It's the least you could do, she gave birth to you! Lol seriously nice job and I'm sure mom is happy. Wish I had the courage to do a mini itx build.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Well there is more to come for her, when I'm Africa. Thank you! And I sure hope so and I think she is.

And why not? You can build a mini ITX as long you have the budget for it. Or is it something else? Parts harder to obtain?

convertedconsolegamer_92 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

I just feel more comfortable with the size of ATX platforms. I like the extra room. Your build looks great though.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Oh, I see! No worries there, I understand. Roomy is quite comfortable. I appreciate your kind comment! Thank you.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

when I'm Africa

Took me this long to notice my grammar error. I meant to say "... when I'm in Africa."

sukh3gs 2 Builds 3 points 30 months ago

Reminds me of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Aw, and that build was awesome! And so are the Ninja Turtles too. :D

Charmin 3 points 30 months ago

I saw you commenting on a build, but this build is just... wow. I love the color choice and I love seeing builds with this case! Those fans are boss! At least the name has some reasoning behind it, unlike other builds where it's "Project __" or "Or "Beast __" or"first build", I've seen some good names like the Octane Box and the Widowmaker, and this build is amazing! I also love the care and dedication into this, and I wish your mother to have a great time using this. +1!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I appreciate it, thank you very much! I'm glad the case and the color is a lovely one! And I was surprised with the fans, since I never seen green LED version before. And those builds were amazing indeed! I did the best that I could do, I'm certain she will! Thank you so much! :)

TheAzureSky 3 points 30 months ago

It's beautiful. It's rare to see a green build. This was a case I've been wanting, and it's great to have someone take real pictures of it instead of those shopped PR photos.

Congrats.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Wow! Thank you so much. That really means a lot to me! I'm glad it was able to help in some way! I appreciate your kind words.

ElectricUniverse 3 points 30 months ago

Really nice build. Great photos and description too. That case has a pleasant symmetry to it. Good job troubleshooting the cooler. Sounds like you enjoyed the build. That's the whole thing right there!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you very much! I'm so glad that it was a pleasant sight and balance. And you correct, the experience of the building process is the most enjoyable part, even troubleshooting when one has solved the problem or the mystery.

tpb1908 2 points 30 months ago

Neat build, +1 May I ask why you purchased the GPU? You have explained how it performs, but not why it was needed over the integrated graphics.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Hmm... I never would say it's a need unless you prefer your games to have decent graphic results. I should have better explained about this so I do apologize for it. I didn't think I need to, and I try not assume or sound like I am lecturing to anyone. I am not a teacher, since I shake in the knees, my lips and hands quiver if you ever see me talk to a small and large group of audience.

Would the integrated graphics be good enough for this build? Sure, sure. Should I not bother with a GPU that would work with the i3? Sure, sure.

Yet it's good to have a workable GPU, especially when my mom intends to add more games down the road. I'm certain they aren't heavy CPU oriented but it's possible she may end up doing a simulator or two as well. I have no idea what those will be since I didn't ask the right questions about what that is, yet.

It's also nice to show her what a game could look like with some decent graphics. She has never bought a desktop in her entire life span. And she's never had a graphics card to experience it. She is the type of person who serves others first, loves and respects. Trying to show how much I appreciate her in some way, even if it doesn't make sense and it's only material. I only designed it to handle her working life and to spoil her with the games she enjoys and the new ones to come. She doesn't just play card games, she has surprised in the past with some of the games that I had idea she could do. :)

Yet I also understand, this i3 is just as good enough to handle alone without a GPU. I don't think it was the wrong decision but could I have done better? I think so too. However, is it satisfying? Yes, yes it is. I cannot say to go buy this card with the i3 for everyone if you are talking about a hardcore gaming rig. AMD build is great for budgets and are amazing with games if focused with the correct specs. An i5 and a better card like a 970 or 980, or a R9 290 etc. would be my recommendation for major gaming terms.

vordar 1 Build 2 points 30 months ago

I know someone else brought it up, but you don't see a lot of brightly colored cases. I think I have a problem with all the red ones out there, but this one really doesn't bother me as much. Nice work.

Logitech makes a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for about the same. Trackpads aren't really my thing but that's the only part I'd swap out really.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Hey no worries, I love black and red to death. Yet I do understand on where you are coming from since it's been overused in the past but frankly I don't get tired of them. I just cannot keep up with everyone here so it happens. Thank you though, I'm glad it wasn't a "red one" that bother you.

And good to know. I have no qualms or any kind of issue about this type of keyboard and mouse. It can reach around 36 feet of reception, perfect for the bed and tv hookup. >Winks< It's darn awesome but if you are used to it. This keyboard and mouse feels more like a laptop keyboard but your touchpad is at the right side of the mouse. If you used laptops for over 10 years or more and if one is right hand, it's great. However the great thing is there are many options for us. :)

vordar 1 Build 2 points 30 months ago

Hey whatever works, works!

Felix1738 2 points 30 months ago

New to pc building, and was wondering about the mobo only having one fan connector, what does this mean? What is the problem with that?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

No worries and welcome!

Hm... I will hyperlink the manual of this mobo here. GA-B85M-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0). If you see on page 4, from the English manual, so you have a better visual with this.

It currently only has one System Fan Header, meaning only one SYS_FAN which is for additional Case Fans. So I can only install with ease a CPU fan from my CPU_FAN and only one extra Case Fan to help either exhaust to pull heat away or to intake which is to cool down components but then you will deal with dust build up.

It helps to have at least two Case Fans (like two System Fan Headers [x2 SYS_FAN]) to intake and exhaust at the same time. So having this type of MOBO has only one SYS_FAN available to install a Case Fan. Thankfully there are two solutions for this dilemma. One place and install a mod that allows additional Case Fans to be connected without the need of the MOBO to do this. I know the one I am thinking of has a PCI connector which requires it from a PSU. Have place it somewhere upon the case for this type of mod and can install your 3-pin or 4-pin Case Fans with ease.

The other solution which I had extra at the time, was a Fan Splitter. I used a 2-way Fan Splitter so I can have an additional Fan to intake. I wanted to cool down my components and pull heat away at the same time. The drawback can lessen some of the RPM when I use a splitter but currently I can adjust the RPM to1250 and below anytime that I need to, thanks to the MOBO's additional software.

So basically, the problem is only about not having the extra SYS_FAN from the MOBO, so I cannot easily install two Case Fans unless I did one of the two solutions that I mentioned above. Is it a major one? It can be for most of us. Thankfully there is ways to get around it at least. Otherwise the MOBO is a great basic one to start with when getting into computers. I would just make sure to not buy this beyond $50 since it feels a bit odd to not have a connectors for a very basic MOBO. It's not bad of course, it does the job quite well so far!

If you have anymore questions, please let me know. I'd be happy to help in anyway that I can. Thank you for your questions!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I made some typos again.

One place and install a mod that allows additional Case Fans to be connected without the need of the MOBO to do this.

One is, place and install...

I would just make sure to not buy this beyond $50 since it feels a bit odd to not have a connectors for a very basic MOBO.

... a bit odd to not have as many connectors

I never had great grammar. My apology for the repeat of comments.

edexility 2 points 29 months ago

Great Build, may I ask where you purchased the case from?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

Thank you and sure thing! I got this case from Amazon. I know there are a few other online sources that sells them, suggested from PCPartPicker.

edexility 2 points 29 months ago

Thanks a lot!!!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

You are most welcome. :)

Wizard_Penguin 2 points 28 months ago

wow 1. this is awesome, 2. this is awesome, 3. this is awesome and 4. wow this is green

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 28 months ago

Wow, you are so kind. Thank you for the support! I'm glad you liked it. :)

SuperTailsHD 2 points 24 months ago

you deserve more support. :)

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 24 months ago

Aw... I appreciate your support! Thank you, thank you. :)

PoweredbyGaming 2 points 23 months ago

Just curious, how well do the cpu and mobo pair? Do you need the Bios update as the messages say in the parts list?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 23 months ago

When got this MOBO, it had no problems whatsoever. The BIOS is still F1 and continues to work just fine. There were no issues setting things up in the BIOS and it was working with the i3-4160. No it is not required to have a BIOS update. There has been no issues that I heard of or seen. No BIOS update is required and this CPU & MOBO works great.

There is an F2 BIOS for Windows 10 to work with the G3258 Pentium. No idea if anyone had this issue of course with this MOBO but the F2 BIOS exist to resolve for those who may had issues of having a G3258 not working with Windows 10 and trying to overclock their processor. I should probably update that in my description.
PoweredbyGaming 2 points 23 months ago

Ah ok, thanks. I've been hoping to build a pc for a friend and the motherboard and cpu was a part of that list. Thanks Eltech!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 23 months ago

The only downfall I know about the MOBO is that one SYS_FAN for a case fan. I had to use a fan splitter for two case fans to work. And you are most welcome. Happy building!

Gooberdad 7 Builds 2 points 20 months ago

Very pretty. Nice pc +1. Way to take care of mom. +∞.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 20 months ago
Yes, it sure is pretty green. I appreciate your support, thank you!
vycelord 2 Builds 2 points 11 months ago

I know this is an old build but we were having a discussion on another post. OP, I was wondering if you could look at my completed build and give me a little info on this case. Im trying to replace my Apevia one with something that has at least a little cable management potential, as the Apevia QBer is an awesome case but literally has no cable management options as it's a horizontal MB deck.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 11 months ago

Of course and no worries.

I was wondering if you could look at my completed build and give me a little info on this case. Im trying to replace my Apevia one with something that has at least a little cable management potential, as the Apevia QBer is an awesome case but literally has no cable management options as it's a horizontal MB deck.

Certainly, I'll take a look at your build. Horizontal motherboards can be very difficult to cable manage since it varies upon the case.

As for the BitFenix Prodigy M Vivid Green MicroATX Mini Tower has some cable management. Mostly where the PSU between the motherboard is located. Easy to route the 8-pin (4+4) for certain; however if working with bulky wires it can be tricky if keeping the additional layer of the 2.5"x2 plastic cage that is located near the frontal USB ports / power & reset buttons. There are a couple other ways to cable manage I think, depending by the amount of case fans and storage will determine the results.

I cannot say my cable management is the greatest example but I know for certain there are a few ways to manage the wires.

blade8227 1 point 30 months ago

It looks really nice, but I probably wouldn't have gone with the gtx 750

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you. And I understand, better cards are out there. Such as the ti version. :)

polarbehr 4 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Why the GPU? Is she running dual screens?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

>Ponders< For the games she will add in down the road. Dual screens, not that I know of.

DaBacca 1 point 30 months ago

Great build but why a 750? If theirs is mostly for office work and video watching getting something like a gt 540 would have saved $70 and done just the same for what it's needed for

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Thank you, but isn't a GT 540 weaker then the integrated graphics card if I did such a thing? Would I just be better off without it? Why go that cheap? If that was the plan, I wouldn't bother with the GT again. I already made a mistake before, not going to repeat again. And she also games, so I don't see the problem but thank you for the suggestion.

DaBacca 1 point 30 months ago

O... I didn't realize she was planning on playing some games. The gt series is not weaker than the integrated graphics, but it is not meant for gaming. They are designed for business application

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Oh? I wish I could see some statistics somewhere for it. I'll have to look around again whoever benchmarks it these days.

BrendenCaruso 5 Builds 1 point 28 months ago

How did you turn the power and reset button right side up?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 28 months ago

I cannot say I did such a thing since it was already created this way before I got the case. Unless I am misunderstanding the question, then my apology. I do admit that it was kinda an awkward placement. I pressed the reset button more often then the power until I remembered to go lower.

RubyJunk -1 points 30 months ago

Processor - :(

For a build like this, you almost need AMD.

I mean I highly doubt you're going to upgrade the cpu, and for a budget build like this AMD offers more price for performance.

Otherwise - :D

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

>Ponders< What's wrong with the processor?

And maybe but no I don't either. Don't get me wrong, I like AMD too but I stuck with preferences here. AMD yes does offer this, more performance for budget. Yet this isn't a bad build but thank you for your suggestion.

Thank you for the smiley. :)

RubyJunk -1 points 30 months ago

Thank you for the smiley. :)

You're welcome :{D

Yet this isn't a bad build but thank you for your suggestion.

Why do you say this isn't a bad build? Of course it's not. It just could be improved with AMD.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

improved

First a need, now improved? So what is wrong with the i3 processor? I'm getting the impression you just like AMD but fair enough. I don't see myself going back to my mother, take her computer and say "Hey let me just grab that i3 and GTX 750 so I can swap it to an Athlon and a Radeon R7 250." I also would need a new MOBO. I know there's better AMD options out there yet it wasn't the focus. As I mention before, thank you for the suggestion.

RubyJunk -1 points 30 months ago

You don't get it. I'm assuming maybe, just maybe someone might decide to build this same exact computer. After all it is on the featured list isn't it? OK, then, I think that AMD might be better for the future person who might decide to buy this computer, because as I said, it is top on the featured list. You on the other hand, do not have to replace your mobo, cpu and video card. Do you take me for an idiot, or are you seriously contemplating taking apart your computer and replacing all the most expensive parts?

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

There is no need to be angry here. I did not think you were an idiot. Please, calm down.

RubyJunk -1 points 30 months ago

Also, I know that I'm giving you a lot of comments here, sorry, but, you didn't answer my question.

Yet this isn't a bad build but thank you for your suggestion.

What does that mean, this not being a bad build.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

I think this is being over analyzed. I'm not here to fight with you. My apology.

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

There is no need to be rude here.

RubyJunk 0 points 30 months ago

I also forgot to say, you have a typo in your description. It says HD instead of HDD when you're explaining the parts.

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Ah! My apology. HD sounds like High Definition and not Hard Drive Disk. Thank you for the catch!

Kiing_Hiipo 2 points 29 months ago

Longevity is an oft-neglected feature in the tech sector as a whole because of the maligned view that it is unimportant due to the perceived rapid pace of development and deployment of new tech to the consumer market. This build needs to last, reliably and efficiently, for years, and not get lapped and not fall down. It won't be rapidly, steadily upgraded for years, the components need to work easier to accomplish more over an extended period of time. This lovingly crafted machine will do that. One may be able to the squeeze more performance by reallocating the budget, but at what cost? This machine is the kind of budget build that makes sense.

Well-engineered, well-executed. Money, time, and effort very well spent. Congrats!

Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 29 months ago

Wow... You make it sound like poetry. I'm in awe... I truly appreciate your support and lovely statements. You are too kind King!

I am grateful and thank you so much!

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 2 points 30 months ago

Thank you so much Radox! I really appreciate your kind words. My mom was the clever one there. She called it and therefor it made sense once I heard the wizard of Oz. Thank you, thank you. :)

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Muchas gracias, amigo! :)

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Same here, the original. I should thank my mom for that too. It's a great movie! And thank you so much! Appreciate it!

Aw darn, sorry about those photos of mine not showing up. The joys of technology, so I understand that since my phone does goes through the same issue with my own builds hehe. I guess, I could see about 10 more photos that do look good. I'm certain I can but I would need some time to look through the 450~ photos. :)

And that would be an interesting idea, I sure do love Christmas! >Giggles< Again, thank you so much for your kind comments!

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 27 months ago

Wow... Now I do feel every honored. Thank you so much. I'm not sure on what to say except offer my gratitude.

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Hey no worries! Everyone has their own preferences, tis is the joy of custom builds. So much variety that can make anyone happy about the different creations on this site. And thank you very much!

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

"A heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you are loved by others."

I think you and Oz have a point here.

And hey, it's all good. The card works fine, but I do wish I had the ti version. I grabbed this card so earlier ago for a rebate of 20 dollars. And the ti wasn't on sale yet as much I wished for it badly, well few months ago. Ironically, it is now but I have no more money to spend on this build. In the future it's still possible to upgrade I think. I can always improve my mother's gift down the road.

Thank you so much jipster, I truly appreciate your comments! :)

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Eltech submitter 17 Builds 1 point 30 months ago

Sorry, I guess I am not good at trying to make it more funny or go along with it. But that makes it the best of kinds! :P

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