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The 3rd gen Ryzen release pushed me over the edge and tempted me to start getting serious about an (admittedly overindulgent) upgrade from a i5-8400/1060 3gb. Most of these parts I picked up on sale over the course of a few months, except for the CPU (which I got pretty close to release) and the GPU (which I got a discount on due to a mix up with an originally ordered Strix-2070 Super).

Overall quite happy but I am still trying to squeeze every last bit of performance out of it. Naturally it crushes most games at 1080p Max settings, the enigma that is RDR2 not-withstanding.

Here are some notes:

  • Great case to build in

  • Castle 240 water-cooler didn't fit, naturally the NZXT x62 fits perfectly

  • Having trouble maintaining decent boost clocks, could be BIOS version, BIOS settings, the MOBO, or my lack of knowledge. Any suggestions here are greatly appreciated, as there is little consensus on the best potential for the 3700x/x470 combo, especially with recent updates.

  • SPECTRIX D41 (@ 3200mhz 16-18-18) RAM looks nice, but gives pretty poor scores in every memory benchmark i've used. Would like to upgrade at some point, but still dont know what the best value/performance is here. RAM RGB is also tricky to get to do what you want, but I have had issues with AURA all-around. The memory looks cool when its on rainbow, but it changes out of order (1-3-2-4) and adjusting manually is a pain since there are 4 lighting zones per stick and 4 sticks, all of which can't be re-named or grouped AFAIK.

  • S11 Pro 1TB NVME drops to about half speed when over half capacity, which is still decent for the price.

  • Claymore isn't that great to be honest. Weird shape prevents wrist-rest, the sound is more key-against-metal-frame than clicky MX Brown. The removable and side-switchable num-pad is cool and useful though. Plus It was on sale for 50% off so whatever. Headset was also on sale so the value is still there, but they require a good ammount of tinkering to sound right. There's some good guides on reddit.

Max-OC so far is 4.2ghz stable on all cores without much tinkering, but generally leave it at base to enable the 4.4 boost. Certain PBO options that were marginally increasing cinebench scores where DRASTICALLY increasing temps.

Oh and any general help with setting up a nice lighting configuration without it sometimes eating up seemingly unreasonably amounts of CPU/memory would really make me a happy dude.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

How do you have your Kracken set up? I have an x62 and H500 as well, but with my radiator/fans reversed. How are your temps?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I have them in a push config, as far as I've seen, that's usually the best way, although I could very well be mistaken. I don't have much scientifically-solid data to give you at the moment, but I've had HWinfo64 running for the past 6 and I can tell you this:

  • Total CPU Usage Min: 0.1% Max: 61.0% Avg: 17.9%

  • Max CPU/Thread Usage Min: 1.0% Max: 97.9% Avg: 39.0%

  • CPU Temp (celcsius) Min: 33 Max:74 Agv:55

  • Liquid Temp Min: 29.3 Max 38.4 Avg: 34.3

Ambient temperature in my room is about 21. Note that this CPU can run pretty hot, and I have some PBO settings changed that may be increasing my temp.

How about you, Got any info on temps? Or even if you have tried both setups personally, as I have never tested the pull config, and push-pull isn't possible with this rig.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

got a slayer of a pc there, nice! are you ever going to add RGB 120mm fans?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Sohan!

To be perfectly honest, I already feel like it has too much RGB. There's an RGB strip in the top of the case that I got for a great deal, but I think the strip lighting may deter from the finer details of the MOBO/GPU. Plus, the memory isn't very good and I hope to upgrade to some top-tier RAM, and in that price bracket I don't want to pay the premium for RGB unless there's some fluke deal.

As for the software, the AURA preset configurations don't really have the cool nuanced look I want, and whenever I start messing with the customizing in aura/armory/creator, I end up getting too frustrated. Not to mention trying to sync the Kraken RGB with the rest of it.

And on top of all that, I usually end all the lighting processes/services whenever I'm gaming, since I've seen aura/lightingservice.exe eating a ton of CPU/Memory usage before.

If anyone has any suggestions/resources on setting up lighting, or decreasing its background usage, or anything at all in that realm, help a guy out!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

My pc only has 2 RGB lights, the ASUS mobo and Corsair Symbol on the aio. For the 1.5 years it has been built I have only set it on white so I understand why some don't like RGB. I have a 4 core 7700k and aura never drains performance (hate to say it, might be an AMD optimization problem #intelmonopoly) I set my pc to a static color. You have a very good point about the RGB strips, which is why I never get strip lighting since it distracts your eyes from the build. AURA is really annoying to work with. I am looking to get two RGB corsair fans since the stock ones in my pc are ugly. I heard 1 RGB fan adds an extra 2ghz to your CPU.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, I have learned the hard way that lighting is all about balance and detail. It takes some patience and planning to get a cohesive design.

As for the CPU usage: while I do agree that some of my other listed issues are probably due to AMD drivers/BIOS (mostly due to being so new), having some of these parts (ram/keyboard cooler) in my old build (i5-8400) caused the same problems. I'm not partial either way, and while I'm totally pumped about my new build, and actually do use the extra cores/threads, It does seem that my issues with RDR could very well be AMD related. To go a bit deeper: I should have noted that currently AURA sync is trying to control: 4 MOBO Lighting zones, 4 GPU Lighting zones, 16 RAM lighting zones, however many the CLAYMORE is (1 per key I think?), 1 on the RGB strip, and it's definitely doing something funky with the AIO, which is supposed to be controlled by CAM. I'm guessing that it's a mixture of the amount of lighting zones, issues with AURA, multiple lighting drivers overlapping (the RAM automatically installs PATRIOT VIPER RGB which is necessary for AURA allegedly, plus CAM, GPUTweak2, and LGHUB for my headphones).

But yes, I can confirm that this RGB has actually added an extra 500gb of RAM to my PC!

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi OP,

Great looking build. I am getting the Kraken x62 for my Ryzen 7 3700x. Did you have any trouble with mounting this one? I heard that it uses the stock brackets but I'm not a big fan (pun intended) of the hook style on these stock brackets. I prefer the classic bracket with 4 screws. Any tips?

Best Regards, Renzo

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi Renzo,

Thanks! Much appreciated.

No, I found the x62 quite easy to mount, and it was the first water cooler I've installed (after attempting with the Castle 240). While I totally agree about the hook style retention brackets, the x62 has screws attached to the hooks to loosen and increase the length, reducing the amount of force required to get them under the retention bar. In other words, It was way easier then mounting the Wraith Prism that came with the 3700x.

Hope that helps,

Johnny

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I was under the understanding that amd ran on 2 channel ram the best and the other 2 really didn't do much.... am i wrong?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I am not the person to ask for the technical side of this, so let me refer you to a once of my sources:

https://youtu.be/9IY_KlkQK1Q

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Zipgun!

Admittedly, my cable management could use some work (sorry PC gods). Funny story actually: I got that PSU partially because of the white sleeved cables. After installing it, I realised combed cables would look better in my opinion. I think I could actually cut the sleeves on these and comb the cables, which I think I might do.

I think this would look effectively the same as combed white CableMod cables, but let me know if I'm wrong.

Thanks again!

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Woops, let's try that again.

That's a good point. I know none of them look great at the moment, but what cables are you referring to exactly? And are you talking about individually sleeved cables? This PSU came with all white sleeved cables as you can see on the GPU power, but the ATX power sleeve doesn't reach the end, and that's the part that shows! Also, since I need 2 8-pin PCIe connectors for this GPU, it's doing that weird loop thing.

Open to any other suggestions, as this is my first PC where I'm really trying to nail down the look.

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok wicked, thank you!

And yep, I totally agree. I think I'll look for some white ones, but those will definitely be an upgrade soon.

The whole "cabled" terminology got me a little mixed up.

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