Description

Writing these descriptions is always a long thing but here goes:

So my older build (4770k) was starting to feel it's age a bit in software like large SolidWorks files, Abaqus and MoldFlow and so I felt it was time to go ahead and upgrade (as I'd been itching to for a while). I kept my PSU, and GPU from my old build and went new everything from there.

CPU:

A lot of people are going for Ryzen these days, unfortunately for me there were three issues with that:

1) An utter lack of decent looking ITX boards for the Ryzen Platform

2) Single Core Performance is something very dear to many of the applications I use on a day to day basis. As a result I didn't want to lose out on SCP by making the switch to Ryzen.

3) Overclockability is a big thing to me, and with Ryzen you get great bang for your buck, but with limited headroom. This 8700k is capable of 5.4Ghz @ 1.356V and I know Ryzen will never come near the performance of this system in its current iteration.

CPU Cooler:

I'm an RGB monkey, and this is easily the nicest looking/feature filled clc on the market. That being said, I am not a fan of CAM in the slightest and already have firewalled the telemetry data NZXT pulls (shame on you!). Mounting was not too bad, and the finished product is gorgeous.

Motherboard:

I'll be the first to admit I have a bit of a hatred of Asus given past interactions with them, but so far this board has been fantastic (with the exception of AI Suite which is a hot steamy pile of trash). Some of the fan header placements were pretty irksome to route (WHO PUTS A FAN HEADER LITERALLY RIGHT ABOVE THE PCI SLOT) but overall it's a sharp looking board with a nice feature set.

Memory:

I fell in love with this RAM from the first day they showed it off a while back. Given my workloads 16GB was just barely cutting it so the upgrade to 32GB was a no brainer. Super sleek RAM.

Storage:

I found a great deal on this 960 EVO 1tb and couldn't resist. Thankfully using Macrium Free made cloning my data from my old 500gb 840 EVO to the new 960 a breeze. It's definitely speedy, though I don't know if the speed performance boost over a standard SATA ssd is a big deal in normal usage scenarios.

GPU:

I am a fan of hybrid GPUs. You spend a bit more than traditional aftermarket cards but you get cooler temperatures, quieter operation at load, and more overclocking headroom (in theory assuming your chip is capable of it). EVGA customer support blah blah blah etc. As for the lack of a 1080Ti, just didn't think it was worth it because there's a new generation around the corner.

Case:

This one is a tough one for me. Aesthetically the case is absolutely gorgerous: A (relatively) small footprint ITX case with a tempered glass side panel, built in RGB with a smart device (more on this) and support for 2 radiators. That being said, I do have some major gripes with the case.

For starters, the product photos show off this case with a Kraken x62 installed. The problem I have with that is ALL ITX motherboards of recent generations have a SINGLE USB HEADER. The Smart Device included with the H200i needs access to a USB header to operate AND it does not provide USB passthrough. This means that if you want to use the Smart Device and a Kraken, you're SOL unless you spend the extra 25 odd bucks for an NZXT USB Hub. I spoke to several NZXT reps on their Discord about trying to get them to just include a USB splitter so people can use "Smart" CLC/AIOs with the case without having to buy a USB hub or splitter of their own but no dice sadly. I figured if I was going to be forced to buy a USB hub, I may as well pick up a proper Hue+ and ditch the Smart Device (since it only has 1 RGB channel it can't control both LED strips and RGB fans).

My next big grip with this case is that the front panel cables come out right above the radiator, and the cables are only partially sleeved. I didn't include a photo of this, but it's easily visible when looking at the build that there are several colored wires hanging out above the radiator. Given how hard they worked on aesthetics with this case you'd think they'd have either full sleeved it or at least had it exit from the back panel instead of the middle of the inside of the case.

My final gripe is the fan setup. I wish they had included a second 120/140mm fan mount up top just for the sake of extra airflow. You cannot fit a radiator up top due to clearance with the motherboard, but extra fan slots for airflow would have been an easy fix to add; simply adjust the "bar" (for lack of a better term) that hides the cables so that it gave another inch of clearance or so to allow for the installation of another fan up top.

All of that being said, this is an absolutely gorgeous case. The cable management options provided on the back are a great addition and routing wasn't too bad (actually it was hard but that was more to do with me recycling my sleeved cables made originally for an H440 and having to fit the Hue+ and USB hub). The finished product (to me) looks very clean and very attractive. I would recommend the case to other people so long as they are aware of the issues mentioned earlier.

PSU:

It's a little long in the tooth, and it's definitely a lot more power than this system needs, but it's a solid unit and has treated me well.

Fans:

Yes...I technically have a highly negative pressure oriented setup., And no, I don't care. These fans are really pretty, like super pretty. They perform reasonably well on my setup as is (load temperature on CPU stock is about 60C in Prime95, and GPU is about the same in 3DMark). Proper overclocking numbers I'll try to include at a later date.

Hue+:

A nifty device, and works well. Was a little difficult to find a spot to place it in the case but I managed. IO wish that CAM had more granular control of the lighting as well as more options for system wide lighting options (outside of Spectrum Wave), but overall still pleased with it.

Dell U3011:

These are slightly older IPS panels, but I got them for 100 bucks total so I can't complain, they work nicely.

Acer Predator:

I've had this monitor for a few years now and still love it. GSYNC is a requirement for me these days (or any adaptive sync I guess) as is IPS and 120+hz.

Roccat Nyth:

I LOVE this mouse. Modular, customizable button layouts, lighting, ergonomic options it has it all. Highly recommend to anyone looking for a new mouse with a larger budget.

Keyboards:

I'm a keyboard enthusiast through and through. My FC660C (for those not familiar) uses Topre switches and has been lubed by the respected (and reviled) Krelbit of Reddit's r/MK subreddit (also the owner of switchmod.net you should check him out sometime). The K-Type is one of my favorite boards to date, with custom made lubed Zilent Blacks (Cherry Silent Black stems lubed and placed inside Zealios housings with Zeal's 67g springs). Types like a dream, looks shmexy.

Planned Updates/Revisions:

  • I may be having some new cables made at a shorter length to make the cable management in the back more manageable (and presentable).

  • I'm also looking into making some sort of an LED diffuser for the lighting strips as well as the motherboard to get rid of the spot lighting that LEDs are known for (I hate that aspect of them).

  • Going to see if the Hue+ might fit into the PSU shroud's SSD mound, might look nice and help with cable management in the back as well as hide those unsightly screw holes on the shroud.

Comments

  • 21 months ago
  • 3 points

aren't your front mounted fans pushing air out...? so all of your fans are pushing air out...?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

I was wondering the same thing...

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

He addressed this in his post... "Yes...I technically have a highly negative pressure oriented setup., And no, I don't care. "

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  • 21 months ago
  • 3 points

It helps to read to make sense of things. From my explanations:

They perform reasonably well on my setup as is (load temperature on CPU stock is about 60C in Prime95, and GPU is about the same in 3DMark). Proper overclocking numbers I'll try to include at a later date.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 2 points

There's more than one way to make a build. You can focus purely on optimizing the budget for the best components, you can optimize your fans for the most ideal airflow, you can optimize for aesthetics, you can optimize for pure GPU compute, FPS, CPU rendering/multithreading.

For the fans I focused on making sure I was not running them such that they were too loud while looking good and maintaining temperatures. Fans exist for reducing temperatures, not for optimal airflow (that is merely a byproduct result of finding ideal temperatures).

I understand the entire concern with things like dust buildup, negative pressure, suboptimal airflow etc perfectly well. The reality, however, is no matter how well you design your airflow and filter your intakes you will always have to clean your case out from time to time. As a result of my decisions that time is a shorter period, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I bought a datavac to use it, not to have it sit pretty :P.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 2 points

You'll have dust buildup no matter how you set things up, even with pure positive pressure and filtered intakes. The reality is you always have to make sure to clean your case up every X period of time. For me, my choice just means X is a shorter period of time, and I'm fine with that.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha well I don't disagree :P Seems like a good way to starve your graphics card and CPU radiator of air, but I guess if it doesn't catch on fire... /shrug

  • 21 months ago
  • 3 points

This 8700k is capable of 5.4Ghz @ 1.356V

Dayuuuum.

  • 21 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 for the Oblivion

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 for noticing :P

  • 19 months ago
  • 2 points

Fantastic build! It's actually pretty crazy that I also have the exact same GPU and I also sold a 1070 at the same price I got the 1080 at... I was wondering if you ever considered getting an x62 and if the tubes fit against the glass in the second and fourth pictures? And is there any reason you ended up moving the tubes? Thanks!

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

I did think about the x62 but honestly I want with the 52 instead because i wanted all the fans to be the same size.

The tubes do press up against the glass a bit for the GPU cooler. I redid the tubing just to clean up the look and prevent it from pressing against the glass.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks good, the RGB complements it perfectly, not too overdone, nice and clean and the the color scheme you got going looks great. Also that monitor setup is awesome lol +1

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

It's taking some getting used to. 30 inch monitors in portrait are an intimidating thing.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

ALL.

THE.

RGB.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Cool, man! Could you make some pictures of cable management on the back side and show were you placed the NZXT Internal USB Hub?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

The back side is not a pretty thing hahaha. As for the internal hub, I literally slid it between the power supply and the radiator fans.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

OoOoOo hot damn

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

how did you get the case? its not even syaing its out anywhere.. nice build !

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

It's available on NZXT's website, or was when I ordered it.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 for the K-Type being a fantastic keyboard. I'm typing on the Halo True's and even barring other issues, the keyboard is so dang pretty, tune-able and downright customizable, that it's supplanted all other keyboards I've ever owned or seen. I'm so happy I got in on the drop tbh.

Rest of the build looks nice too. Lazer focused for your own purposes. Good on ya.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly I do like it but I wish it was a 75% and hipro as well.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm personally a fan of the saved space lol. I'm used to 100%s making my game space feel cramped. Admittedly though, I'm a noob when it comes to MKs.

I've tried a bunch of different ones though and the hot swap switches are just so nice, because I can keep trying different switches all the time.

  • 21 months ago
  • 2 points

If you're looking for more saved space you may want to consider buying a 75% kit (such as the XD84, KBD75 etc) and installing hot swap sockets to it. Personally, the 75% layout/size is the most ideal; retaining your number row and frow as well as arrow keys while still reducing size a good deal from TKL.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Pics of kbs please!!!!

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

There's a couple new photos in the album just for you.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice build my dude +1

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

AWESOME build, I'm planning on basically copying your build entirely....hope you dont mind :-). Wondering though - can you fit a 3.5 HDD on the bottom of the case with the 240mm radiator? I would have the radiator on the inside, and wondering if I could fit a big ol drive there. Thanks! +1

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly, if you're copying this build, you wouldn't be able to get an hdd down there lol. The USB Hub is down there as well as the excess of cables, so it definitely wouldn't fit sadly.

EDIT: I don't mind you copying it in the slightest, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :P.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

+1, the name definitely suits! Did you come across any clearance issues with the Kraken blocking the RAM?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I thought it was an apt name haha. The fan was SUUPER close to the kraken block. In fact when I showed the photos to a few people from NZXT they all asked that very question. It's basically touching.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Damn... Rather you than me! I'm hoping to have a tiny bit more clearance... Still, congrats on the awesome build!

  • 20 months ago
  • 1 point

Still wondering about how you fit the kraken with the RAM sticks though! Looks incredibly tight. I’m considering a similar build!

  • 20 months ago
  • 1 point

The inlet/outlet literally just barely push up against the ram. Just about everything about this build was a "it just barely fit" scenario

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Love the name. Nice build.

Thumbs up.

Oh featured build!

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Next gen nvidia gpu already?!

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

LMFAO I comment on the reddit post about the negative pressure too xD OpenMidGG

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Great build man! Very clean and the RGB looks smooth. Nice job!

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

I just recently completed an ATX 8700k system with the same FTW Hybrid GPU for the same reason as you. Single threaded performance for SolidWorks and no 1080 ti because Volta is around the corner. On my ASUS Z370-e motherboard, I also have complaints with fan header placements -- I'm just using the 4 fan headers that come on the kraken. I am also a sucker for RGB having bought corsair ml120 rgb fans. The motherboard has an addressable header and two more standard 5050 headers. I have a meter of addressable RGB going around the inner perimeter of my phanteks p400s. Your build is a mini version of mine with more ram and a faster ssd. I absolutely love it.

One question - Are you getting 5.4 @1.365 on all 6 cores or just one or two of them? I'm running my 8700k at 5.0 @ 1.25 on all 6 cores.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

No it's on all 6 cores @ 1.356v.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

What are you using your vertically oriented monitors for?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

I basically use them for peripheral windows. I tend to split them to have two windows (split horizontally) per monitor.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey mate!

Awesome build, it's almost magical. So i'm located in Australia and the H200i's aren't out until a few more months and I really want to use it for my new build. I would really appreciate it if you could answer a few of my question on the case based on your experience building in it. I've got an Asus Strix 1080Ti and Kraken X52 and i'm hoping that there is enough space to fit them both in together! If they don't fit I had the idea that I could possibly extend the radiator bracket forward with some spacers or screws that shift its position closer to the front panel. Only problem is, I don't know how much room there is in the front panel. Do you think this could be a possible solution?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

By my measurements, you have about 10.5 inches of clearance for a GPU if you have a Kraken up front with fans (266.7mm) which means you won't be able to fit the Strix in sadly. And the way the case is designed i won't think you could fit the fans in the front between the case and the front panel.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Alright NZXT says the gpu clearance is 325mm without a radiator. The GPU I have is 298mm which means I have 27mm of clearance left for the radiator. Only issue is the kraken's radiator is 30mm, Assuming there is about 20mm of space in the front panel I'm able to shift the radiator bracket 3mm away from the gpu leaving 17mm of clearance in the front panel. Now i've found some fans that are 15mm (Noctua NF-A12X15-FLX) which would leave me with 2mm of space left to intake air, technically it should all fit but im wondering if there would be anyway to slightly adjust the size of the case so I can fit this all in and have a couple more mm for the front panel.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Well the only way I can think to do that is the front panel fan mount is removable. It screws into the front panel so you could add some washers as spacers but I'm not sure how much more clearance you could get with that.

Doing the math on what you said, and correct me if I'm wrong, but 325-298 = 27mm of clearance left with no kraken in place. The radiator alone is 30mm you said, meaning you're at -3mm. From there you also have these fans that are 15mm, meaning you need a total of 18mm spacing extra. You definitely would not be able to adjust the front panel with the washer method by 18mm. You might be able to fit the 15mm fans in the front of the case between the front panel and the front panel cover, but you still have to find a way to get the extra 3mm in place, which I genuinely am not sure about doing without some more involved modding. MAYBE the washer method? But 3mm may be a bit much for that I'm not sure, you could try to find a way to remove the screws that hold the front panel in place (they're the kind that stay on the panel when unscrewed) and find longer ones that match the threading/diameter and that may give you the clearance you need.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah so basically the idea is to put the radiator inside the case and the fans on the other side. Then use the washers to move the radiator bracket 3mm foraward. I know I'm asking for alot but could you possibly measure the clearance from the radiator to the front panel? Thanks in advance mate

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

There's a decent amount of clearance in there, maybe 30-35mm worth ish. If you want more detailed info (sorry I'm tired it's late an brain isn't functioning right) it may help to go to the NZXT Discord channel and ask them for more detailed info too.

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

How did you get CAM to id the fans??

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello! How are you doing. Can I ask for the temps ? Have you tried OC and how much is the Temp? the Max. I wanted to go with Mini ITX 8700k, but I am worried with the temperature.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

5.4ghz at about 75-82C ish iirc.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

did you have any issues with the ram being too tall for the CPU cooler?

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

No, it's snug but it fits.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay I have a question for you

I already have:

1) NZXT Aer RGB x2 Fans & HUE+

2) NZXT Kraken X42

3) (Plan to buy the upcoming B360i Asus mobo)

I'd love to buy this case and I don't mind much using the led strip light though. Please tell me I'm not going to have troubles connecting both to the motherboard.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

You are probably going to need a usb hub to do so.

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I figured. I just got one :P

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey! Nice build, I've recently built similar system, also in H200i, with same motherboard and RAM with kraken x62. And I could not fit the CPU block of kraken in the orientation like you have, because of the clearance issues, so I've ended up putting it sideways, so that loop is connecting from the top. Is there any secret on how to mount kraken ?

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

Elbow grease, patience, and an unreasonable amount of determination.

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome build, I am actually planning to upgrade my current build to a build similar to yours. Have a couple of questions to confirm with you.

  1. So if I want to use the smart hub + nzxt x52 + couple of rgb fans & strips. I will need to purchase internal usb hub AND nzxt hue?
  2. Did you end up using the smart hub at all? lol

update: nvm just read through your comments, already answered.

Thanks!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you end up using the smart hub at all? If use how can you enough slot to connect the panel usb 2.0 (between hue and kraken x52) mainboard only have 1 panel to conncect?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

I did not use the smart hub at all for the reason you mentioned.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Excuse me for the ignorance and my poor english, but I have a question: have you removed the two standard fans of the case?

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I did remove the fans.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

How were the fans powered? Did you have to purchase a GRID as well or were you able to get power off the motherboard and then RGB from the hue?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I bought an NZXT GRID+ as well yeah, I think I have that written somewhere in the build summary or whatever it's called :P.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

hey man im having problems with the radiator fan https://imgur.com/a/1rgy6Ki the kraken aio pump is blocking the fan. how did you fit yours?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't have a 120mm radiator on the back of my case, so I can't really help you sorry.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

but i can see the evga hybrid radiator on the back... i was wondering how were you able to fit the radiator with fan without the pump on cpu blocking you

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha I totally forgot about that, I changed it up recently. Honestly I'm not sure why you're having trouble getting it into place.

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey did you ever solve this issue? In the same boat

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Curious as to how the wiring for fans and everything went. Doing a build about the same with the 2600X and the Asus b450. There any special hubs or anything needed. (My first build, please don't destroy me)

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't run those fans anymore, but you do need the nzxt hue+/hue2 to run the fan rgb controls and stuff yeah.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome, thank you!

  • 21 months ago
  • 0 points

3 grand, I'd expect much better specs... but pretty colors. I guess?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

I wouldn't pay attention the pricing numbers, they aren't accurate. The GPU I basically got for free after selling my 1070 during the mining craze and keep in mind that at least 600 bucks of that price is keyboard related.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

He's great friends with Ryan...

I smell a conspiracy brewing.

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

thinking intensifies

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  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

hasn't been active here for a few months

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Fair enough, fixed the pictures issue and added some extras

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