Description

Before I go on to fully explain this build I'd like to point out some things in a tl;dr first..

1) The PC will be borrowing my desktops 7850 when being used for gaming, and will only be used for gaming at friends.

2) I understand the PSU will receive some criticism, first its not even that PSU the one I have isn't listed on PCPP, second my very trust worthy PC store convinced me that there's no problems with them (in fact they return more XFX PSUs to the manufacturer than anything else)

3) The gskill RAM you see is from my desktop which is what i originally planned to use, but it wasn't POSTing with it.. not sure why the ram is fine, purchased the Crucial and now works fine

4) Total spend £310

5) OS will be dualboot windows for gaming and there will be linux for when used as a media PC - linux would allow for much easier network access to the files


Breakdown

CPU:

Something fast and cheap, I didn't feel the use of the PC warranted an i5, and if it did it would have been a K series.

Motherboard:

With the i3 any board would have been fine, so I went for B75, they are the cheapest boards available that natively support IB (without a BIOS upgrade on arrival). The B75M-ITX from ASRock seemed a perfect match, cheap, has everything needed +more. Nice too see the USB 3 header. Some of the IO headers are in non default places due to the form factor of ITX though it wasn't harsh.

Case:

The CM Elite 120 is an amazing case for the price, its very easy to work in (though my small hands probably helped). The layout is very good, and I found it very easy to cable manage inside. The Full size PSU option is great with the right PSU. The USB3 port on the front does use the internal header not a pass-through too. For a cheap ITX build I highly recommend the case!

PSU:

So initially my intentions were to get an XFX 450W core edition, but my local PC store had ran out of held stock. They unfortunately happened to have very poor stock of low wattage PSUs in so I ended up with the OCZ CoreXstream edition 500W (not the similar one I have listed) . Now I know this isn't a great PSU and there are some issues, 1)The sata lines on it are not long enough for 1 line to stretch to the HDD from the ODD so i've had to use both. 2)Not all braided cables.. Though I must say that there isnt excessive cables on it.

The rest of the parts are fine, HDD is great, have one in my desktop too, RAM was nice and cheap for what it is, crucial is a very good brand and I have no quarrels.


Overall I am really happy with the outcome of this build.

Comments

  • 80 months ago
  • 4 points

Hilarious what sales people say to convince customers of their credibility:

"second my very trust worthy PC store convinced me that there's no problems with them (in fact they return more XFX PSUs to the manufacturer than anything else)"

EDITED Without knowing anything else the above quoted sounds like a big fat sales pitch which is why I find it hilarious EDITED

  • 80 months ago
  • 3 points

I trust them, seriously this isn't your average consumer PC store, its ran by gamers. They tell the truth, not what makes money, if they wanted money they would have pointed me at corsair or some other more expensive brand.

  • 80 months ago
  • 2 points

If you trust them that's great. I'd be interested in seeing the numbers. Lately I've been studying return %'s of different vendors and curious if OCZ has actually improved their game. We know for a fact that as of the last few years Corsair PSUs had their OEM changed to a far less reputable company CWT and since then have had an amazingly higher RMA % from previous years. Leaving very few of their products still being OEM'ed by Seasonic. Just an example but what you wrote, though probably factual, sounded like a typical sales pitch to make you comfortable to purchase OCZ which has been known industry wide as not being known for their reliability. Though Linus - from Linustechtips puts his name on it (OCZ), allbeit only fully recommending a specific tier, being their product rep.

It is a rare find indeed if you can find a sales person - computer shop that is honest so good for you.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

Well said. At the end of the day it's quite possible the individual shop was telling the truth. But their truth could be in the form of as little as 100 PSUs sold a year, we have no idea. Even if they are a huge shop, they are still a single shop, and their experience will not tell the whole story.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

I trust them, I've never had and problems in the last 7 years. And I wont be pushing the PSU at all. If it fails thats my call, but I doubt it.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

The AX series are made by seasonic right?

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

yes the AX series is the only Corsair being made by Seasonic currently. Not the AX i just the AX.

  • 80 months ago
  • 2 points

What is said store you speak of? I'd like to read about it (not that I don't believe you, but it sounds interesting)

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 80 months ago
  • 2 points

Never mind, I googled it and found it.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

Links fixed now

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

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  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

there's nothing inherently wrong with OCZ power supplies, so long as you get specific models with well-reviewed track records and pay close attention to who makes what. what concerns me, though, is that XFX is OEM'ed by Seasonic, and i was planning on getting an XFX power supply.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

Don't worry, you can still get an xfx psu, it's just that some people have bad experiences.

  • 80 months ago
  • 0 points

You are correct - there are a select few that have some great reviews but that in no way clears all of their products as being "quality". As you mentioned you have to pay close attention. Like I said in an above post, Linus himself on his live stream stated that OCZ Power supplies are OEMed by a great company but when further questioned on the matter he only specifically mentioned one tier which are OEM'ed by Great Wall. The Z series ZT / ZX - is what was indicated.

I don't know why you would be concerned about the XFX statement. You should have no problem getting an XFX power supply. I've not heard anyone else in the industry claim that they have higher returns with XFX / Seasonic products comparatively.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

huh, i didn't know that OCZ OEM bit. i'll keep that in mind next time i get an OCZ power supply assuming, of course, that i stray from my original plans in the first place :P

yeah, the XFX bit might've been a coincidental fluke. i've heard nothing but good things about Seasonic, so that statement kind of surprised me.

  • 80 months ago
  • 0 points

I never said Seasonic, only XFX, my thoughts on it? the XFX PSUs are too lower binned for seasonic to use therefore are lower quality

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

Didn't say you did but since XFX is rebranded Seasonic its fitting. So I'm not going to debate, silly semantics over XFX being Seasonic and if you said Seasonic or not, that is beyond the point...

Though I'd be incredibly interested if you found some professional article or leaked information on XFX using lower binned Seasonic parts. Because a lot of high end reputable power supplies are Seasonic OEM and if this is true it would disturb the entire Power supply market and everyone I know would be more than aggressively interested in reading such information including myself.

  • 80 months ago
  • 0 points

Okay look. The same goes for Samsung and SSDs Samsung makes the flash, they take the best flash for their own SSDs then sell on the not so good flash to other companies for their SSDs, though the flash is fine its not as good as that in the samsung SSDs. Same goes for the PSUs the XFX PSUs parts are made by seasonic, but wont be as great as the Seasonic PSUs. Also bear in mind that this store sells to gamers, the majority of the people who purchase from there know what they want. They will sell more higher tier PSUs than lower, and the lower tier if they break i'd be trashing rather than returning to the store. But if my reputable XFX power supply failed, I'd want to know why. I would still buy XFX in the future, just saying what the store told me.

  • 80 months ago
  • 1 point

If you don't know already lutzee from seeing me post I'm not loyal to any brand, I'm loyal to quality / performance. If I can prove a product isn't stacking up to or meeting the quality / performance as they are supposed to. Say XFX is no longer being shipped quality parts and is actually starting to slip and not be "reliable" as it once was. This type of thing is huge to me and very valued. This happened as I mentioned with Corsair infact they tried to keep it from the public and still until today you can call their tech support and some of them still don't know their HX series is no longer OEM'ed by Seasonic and is now OEM CWT. This move was to raise profit because having Seasonic as an OEM is expensive vs using some budget OEM. When I found this information out I limited which Corsair PSU's I suggest to clients and educated them on the matter so they can make educated choices in their parts.

This Idea about XFX being built with lower quality / lower binned Seasonic parts would be equally important to know if it is actually something verifiable such as the Corsair information. So is this your personal theory or did the store tell you this about XFX using lower bin Seasonic parts? I'm honestly very curious about digging further into the actual quality of the OEM parts being used into XFX power supplies.

This actually goes the opposite for me too, if I can prove a once garbage brand is actually performing and has raised their quality so it has less problems then it did previously I'd be all over testing it and putting it out there with any consultation build I do. Such as OCZ's Vertex 4 - so far is the only OCZ SSD I recommend because I believe its quality and reliable. I keep my eyes open for product changes and like your statement just in case ;) we know things change in this industry really fast so if you have more information on this matter please inform us.

Most gamers actually don't have a clue what they know about computer parts just what they "think" they need. They usually just go for the highest priced thing and have no clue if its actually benefiting their performance like SLI GTX 680s with a single 1080p 60hz monitor. :P

You said something which is indicates how most of the consumer base works with budget products:

"the lower tier if they break i'd be trashing rather than returning to the store"

That right there is one of the main reasons some brands can say they have lower returns vs the higher priced brands. People are more likely to return the high priced item and complain compared to trashing it and just getting another.

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm try to build this and nice part list