Description

I needed a computer that would last for 8 or so years, and I compiled this very upgradeable unit. I chose such a powerful CPU to offset a replacement, whereas I'll upgrade the graphics and RAM with time. I chose to add a soundcard so that I could use the optical in and out for my sound setup, 2 cables that have little interference over 8 electrical makes sense to me. I burn blu-rays for my hobby of video making. I stuck with low budget on the items that will need to be upgraded soon due to limited funds. The whole build functions quite well in my humble opinion. The pictures do not reflect that I moved the video card to the x16 slot after a tip in the comments. Thanks for your criticism!

Comments

  • 68 months ago
  • 5 points

An i5 4670K would have been a wiser choice or even and AMD processor which would allow you to spend more on the GPU and get something better than a 660.

  • 68 months ago
  • 3 points

cost of 660: 170 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 cost of 780: 475 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 475 - 170 = 305

cost of i5-4670K: 190 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 cost of i5-4770k: 270 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 270 - 190 = 80

Pretty sure that it would cost him an extra (305 - 80) $225 to get a 780 and an i5 which, I agree would be more powerful at the moment, but a system with an i7, though overkill for gaming will allow for more graphics card upgrades in the future, which will surely need to happen if he wants his system to be a "Long Term Mid Level Gaming Computer." If he wants "Mid Level" graphics, a 660 is a good, cost efficient option. He will need to upgrade his GPU a lot faster than he will his CPU at most any level, though with this system he extends his system's future potential with an extra ~$80

  • 68 months ago
  • 2 points

I have never seen the new cooler design for the 660. Good build though.

  • 68 months ago
  • 2 points

An i7 is not a lower spec... and if you want to use for gaming, don't hope the 660 is going to last you 8 years,or maybe at the lowest settings. With that money you could have got an i5 4670k along with a 780

  • 68 months ago
  • 2 points

cost of 660: 170 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 cost of 780: 475 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 475 - 170 = 305 cost of i5-4670K: 190 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 cost of i5-4770k: 270 as of 6:14pm central time 4-13-14 270 - 190 = 80 Pretty sure that it would cost him an extra (305 - 80) $225 to get a 780 and an i5 which, I agree would be more powerful at the moment, but a system with an i7, though overkill for gaming will allow for more graphics card upgrades in the future, which will surely need to happen if he wants his system to be a "Long Term Mid Level Gaming Computer." If he wants "Mid Level" graphics, a 660 is a good, cost efficient option. He will need to upgrade his GPU a lot faster than he will his CPU at most any level, though with this system he extends his system's future potential with an extra ~$80

  • 68 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok i get it now, but why do you say the i7 can allow more graphics cards upgrades? is it because it has hyperthreading¡? 8MB L3?

  • 68 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm saying that a better cpu in general is a better investment for the long term. The i7 has hyperthreading, really the most important reason that it may be the better long term option. With computers in general moving towards a much more multi-core/multi-threaded direction, the 8 logical cores on the i7 vs the 4 logical on the i5 are going to make a larger difference. Also, i7's are generally "binned higher" (generally means that they can overclock better and more power-efficiently), something that will be important as the years go by and overclocking an older chip becomes a no-brainer.

Thanks for the reply, let me know if you have any other questions.

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

Ohh Maybe you're right dude... they'are using more and more threats I've heard of a gem of a cpu from intel... (tell no one) the Xeon E3 1230 v2 can you tell me something about it? it is $230 it also has Hyperthreading (4 physical cores), excellent singlecore performance,and using al cores too... do you think it is a good deal for gaming?

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 - 3.3GHz - 4 - 69W - No Data - (6) - $199.99

http://www.microcenter.com/product/400271/Xeon_E3_1230V2_33GHz_LGA_1155_Boxed_Processor

I assume you're talking about this? Xeon's can be a good deal, especially when you're getting one like this for the 1155 socket (Sandy/Ivy Bridge). However, these CPU's tend to be clocked lower (3.3 GHz), have no turbo boost unlike the i3, i5, i7, which raises or lowers the clocks on the chip according to workload, and have locked multipliers (unlike the K-version CPU's like the i5-3570k or i7-4770k) which allow for overclocking of the whole chip.

When you remove the overclockability in any sense of the word from an i7 and lower the base (factory) clocks you essentially get a Xeon processor. While these may be good for running constantly demanding tasks at low power like running a server, for the actual gaming machine it is hard for me to recommend a Xeon, even at that price, over something like an i5 K version. The i5 K versions are practically built for gaming at the moment, though as games utilize more and more threads the i7 will show it's colors. Whether it is worth the extra money or not it is hard to say, as neither you nor I can predict the future, and by the time the i7 really matters for games it may simply be time to do an entire system upgrade anyways.

Best of luck to you and if you happen to have any further questions just keep replying!

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

gpu not in top slot?

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

This is certainly a... wonky build. Too much on CPU, you don't actually need a sound card, optical is questionable since optical media is slowly dying after a long battle with rabies, CPU cooler could be a better model. Sound card is in the x16 slot while the graphics is in the x8 slot. This is REALLY unbalanced.

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

I hadn't read the manual for my mobo fully, but I have since moved the graphics to the x16 slot and the sound card was originally in a x1 slot, but it's now in a different one. I like the blu-ray since I burn lots of optical media for friends and family, and blu-ray is handy for 25GB discs. I need the soundcard for my audio setup, 2 cables is far better than 8, and the sound quality is clearer, because the many cables running behind my setup can't cause interference. This CPU cooler is the only one that would fit in my case well and still have plenty of sink. I want the CPU to be the longest lasting part in the electronics, so I went a bit overboard to offset a replacement in 5 years. bsdev820 outlines the point perfectly. I was considering adding another 660 in SLI in about a year down the line as well as some more RAM. Thanks for the tip about the x8 slot though.

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  • 68 months ago
  • 0 points

cancer isn't a joke buddy. a lot of us here have lost family and friends to it, not funny at all

  • 68 months ago
  • 1 point

I sincerely apologize.