Description

This is my first build ever, I wanted to build it for an entry level gaming PC. I also wanted to build it with my son and explain to him how all the pieces fit and work together.

I haven't done any official benchmarks, but it should be a capable machine. I had originally purchased the G4400, but returned it when the G4560 came out. The only thing I had to do was flash the bios on the Asus motherboard and it was good to go.

I got a deal on the Rosewill SRM-01 case, but it is a tight fit and the insides of this case look like a pile of spaghetti. I think later down the road (ie. a few months), I will be picking up a Phanteks Elite Tempered glass case and also a SSD drive for the OS. Right now, the OS is on a older Seagate Barracuda 320 GB HDD that I salvaged from one of my older computers.

Please let me know what I did well and what I could've improved on with this budget. For those of you who say I could've bought used or from another retailer, I had to buy new from Amazon because many PC component companies do not ship to Hawaii without tagging on a whole lot of shipping charges.

Anyway, enjoy my pictures, sorry it's not as flashy as some other builds here, but for now, it'll have to do...As long as I can play TitanFall 2 and Overwatch, I think this is a great first build...

Let me know in the comments below

Comments

  • 30 months ago
  • 6 points

When there are AMD Radeon RX 470 and some 480 as low as 165 USD (145 after rebate) at Newegg, there is little reason for Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti.

  • 30 months ago
  • 16 points

Prices are different all over the world. Not everyone here on pcpp is from the US

  • 30 months ago
  • 5 points

Hence the phrasing: "When there are"

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Says the guy who comments on everyone’s posts and tells them the better parts they could have bought because they cost $10 less here or $20 less there. While not knowing what the op paid.

  • 30 months ago
  • 7 points

This is a starter build with lots of upgrade capability, i will be upgrading soon, thank you for the comments

  • 30 months ago
  • 4 points

I second this.

  • 30 months ago
  • 5 points

... I literally just got the 1050.

  • 30 months ago
  • 6 points

CANCEL SHIP :P

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

I wonder if the 480 will fit in there...looks tight

  • 30 months ago
  • 6 points

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  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

How is PowerColor as a brand as compared to EVGA? I don't want the card crapping out on me...

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

No idea lmfao but the reviews are good

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Crap, I snoozed and lost the deal. But, i was trying to do research on the vendor and they weren't making a good impression. I went to the site to look up the card details and came up with a page not found, not good for future support...

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, haven't really heard any good things about their support, but their product isnt bad.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

TBH your 1050 Ti will last you a solid 2 years with AAA games on High (not Ultra). By then you would want to upgrade to something nicer if it really bugs you. 4GB of GDDR5 will last you a really long time since most big games like LoL, Overwatch, or any games made by EA/Blizzard/Riot will all be needing no more than 2GB of VRAM. If you ask why i can explain in the reply.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Totally agree...Right now I don't even have the kit (ie. monitor) to support those resolutions.

There was a reason I chose this card, budget, ram, etc. and at the time no other vendor was providing as much bang for the buck.

Thanks aagin

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

Will the 1060 3gb hold good for 3 more years?

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

For 1080p gaming on Ultra-High it should hold its own for 3 years, after 3 it's the same high fps but at high settings most likely.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Are you sure about that? I have a GTX 950 from pny that I oc and I can play on high settings at 55-74 (v-sync) in a lot of AAA games... I guess you are right about the wanting to upgrade because the 2gb of v ram is starting to be limiting

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

There's preference. What if he's just Team Green and likes Nvidia's gpu's? That's a perfect reason.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Simple preference is a very poor reason. Unless you have specific tasks that benefit from a certain architecture, why does the manufacturer matter?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Is PowerColor reputable, especially vs. EVGA?

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

EVGA support > PowerColor.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep, I pulled up PowerColor's website and tried to get more details on their RX480 card and guess what...I got a page not found. Didn't exactly instill confidence in me.

I totally agree, EVGA > PowerColor, the 1050Ti SC is enough for now, I can wait till I find a good deal from a more reputable/mainstream vendor.

Mahalo

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Bouowmx There are things that are exclusive to Nvidia GPU's like Shadowplay, that's the main reason I'm team green.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

There are 1050tis for as low as £130 here and the cheapest rx 470 is about £160

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

What? Thanks! I'll look at that for my build.

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

Very nice build the G4560 is an amazing CPUfor the budget but i would recommend cable managing a bit better other than a great build

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Fixed :) look at last two pics

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice it looks good

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks - it's a tight fit. I'll try to get in there & do some work.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

cool

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Used the same case multiple times, for managing cables try taking off that HDD bar, mount the drive in the 5.25 bay on the bottom, the ATX 24 should fit behind the motherboard as long as it doesn't go into the slim parts of that back area. Then I just nicely loomed the rest in the top of the 5.25 bay. Like this. Best of luck!

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you. Thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. I looked at your build - amazing...

If you don't mind, I may be messaging you for some cable management tips/etc.

Thanks

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Fixed :) look at last two pics

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Very nice, good clean up

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Get an SSD it's probably the best upgrade you could give your PC.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Yep maybe mid year :)

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

I would've spent 20-30 more bucks to get a better case. A top mounted power supply is bad for air flow, and makes cable management a little more difficult. How do you like the motherboard btw? I have the same one.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

I'll be picking up a Phanteks Eclipse P400 case later, but at the moment, I was working with a small budget. The motherboard has been working great, not sure about the long term, but given that it's made by Asus and their track record, the quality should be pretty good.

The thing that attracted me to this case was that it had 4 ram slots and also a M.2 slot for future upgradeability. I intend to make this into a gaming/video editing/streaming pc in the future, so the expandability is much appreciated.

When are you building your system?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

I already built mine! Been running since December 1st 2016. https://pcpartpicker.com/b/69qkcf (I was mistaken btw my motherboard is the exact same except only 2 ram slots)

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Can't knock you on a 1050ti if that's what you choose but you're losing a lot of performance for roughly the same price on the amd side.

That said, love the fact that you're teaching your boy PC mechanics! Mines 6 and is already pulling everything apart to see how it works, I let him play on mine but I've told him he isn't allowed to take it apart lol. I'm gng to build him one in a couple of years similar to this in price, but he's too into minecraft to worry about any serious gaming like his pops :)

And with a closed case build, who cares about cable management tbh. +1

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Hehe, thanks my boy is 8 and I wanted to him to get his feet wet so to speak. I'm conflicted and now I want the RX 480, but is PowerColor a good manufacturer (vs. EVGA)?

Yes, I agree with you, cable management is not a priority because 1) it's a small case and 2) it's a closed case - as long as the cables don't mess with the airflow, i'm happy.

Thanks for the props

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Personally I'm an EVGA fan boy bc of the quick turn around on rma's. Never had to do one, but it's breathing room I suppose :/

Not too sure about the other brand you listed, I'd read up on reviews and see what all of which versions make you more comfortable than others. Though odds are you're gng to get a perfectly capable 480 that'll let you play on max settings @1080p for 99% of games.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

This may or not be any kind of indication, but I've gone to the website numerous times today and I can't even pull up specs on the card itself. When I click on the link to see the specs/details on the card, I get sort of a page not found, but in Chinese.

To me, speaks volumes about support and reliability.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

I think you can improve the build by spending a few hours cable managing it. It'll save you a lot of time later too when you're partially dissembling parts of it for upgrading.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks great advice, much mahalo :)

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Fixed :) look at last two pics

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

you would have a ba easyer and better time going with the nezt 340 case mutch bigger more room and better cored managment and not pricey either but other then that you bought everthing else really cheap pluse you dint wast money for better and bigger upgrads witch can be done latter if you ever do go bigger and even overclocking go to liqied cooling sorry for the bad spelling.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, money was limited as I don't currently have a job, but I will buy a larger case this year and do some more additional upgrades.

Thanks for your comments

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

TBH. That is not a bad starter build but, I would have gone with a better CPU if you want it to last. Also keep in mind you can upgrade you CPU to a very solid gaming PC based off the GTX 1050 ti.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks - I was initially working off a limited budget and will upgrade this computer as I get the money. I will upgrade to an SSD for the OS, a 1 TB HDD for the data/etc and then a better case.

Once that is done, I'll look into getting a new GPU/CPU maybe a i5 kaby lake?

Thanks for looking and your comments

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry I'm responding late but, if you do get a kaby lake i5 make sure your motherboard is compatible. Even if it still has LGA 1151, it might not work.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

I might be new to this but i looked at the mother board and it says "memory type: ddr4-2133". How come you got memory that's ddr4-3000 when the motherboard memory type is ddr4-2133?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Great catch. This is a starter build that I wanted to do gaming on initially, but later want to do video editing/streaming.

So what I may do is give this computer to the kids, take out the ram and use it for a more powerful build. Yes I could have save $ by buying less ram and lower clocked ram, but the ram will likely be transferred to a new computer later (ie, I bought faster ram for future upgradability)

Thanks for looking and your comments

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh I gotcha. That makes sense.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Plus 16gb DDR4-3000 ram for under $100 was a pretty good deal IMHO :)

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Hell yeah

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Did the ASUS motherboard come with updated BIOS for your Kaby CPU?

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Nope, had to use a G4400 to flash the bios, BUT it was easy to do. Not sure how to do this without a skylake CPU.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Pretty sweet. I'm actually looking at building a budget pc with this cpu but in something tiny itx size.

Good stuff and awesome way to teach the kids.

Aloha from Oahu.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for looking :) I'm on Oahu too! Let me know if you have Qs

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi, I'm am a new to this pc building and I want a budget build like yours. Do you have tips on things you would change to this build will all the current input? Like buying a ssd and a rx 480 right off the bat? Thanks!

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi,

It all depends on what you consider a budget amount and what your use case will be. If this is a strictly gaming PC, then maybe I'd go for the H110 series of motherboards (money saved there could be used for something else.) I built this build with the long term in mind and I want to eventually slowly upgrade the parts.

My first priority would be to get a 1TB drive, then get an SSD for the OS and then put all the parts into a new case.

As far as the GPU, in my mind, I set the limit on how much to spend at $150. Then, doing research, watching videos, it seemed like the 1050 Ti was a great choice for the money. I've installed Battlefield 1, TitanFall 2 and will be playing some other games on it and I haven't had a problem. This is the area where a budget computer can get expensive. Don't get caught up in the whole PC master race mentality and be smart and realistic about what your needs are. It can add up real fast. Remember, one thing about building it yourself, you can always upgrade once you get more money.

I think one of my first mistakes was to not spend the extra time in the beginning to manage my cables. If you look at the comments and my initial pics, it was a mess that I could've avoided if I took some time out in the beginning. I didn't think it was important, but then when I moved the case around one time, one of the cables must've interrupted the fan and was keeping it from moving. After that, I took everything apart and did it all again. Have a look at the last 2 pics. I think cable management is important and can be overlooked by first timers.

I am more than happy to answer any other questions you may have, please feel free to ask. It all comes down to what you're willing to spend and what your future plans are for the build.

Thanks and good luck Aloha from Hawaii

PS. I know you mentioned the RX 480, but as I was shopping, those cards were approx. $180 - $200 (out of my budget at the time). Also, next time I may buy slower clocked ram, even though this will be a video editing build in the future, I think I may have been able to save some on ram. Any performance from the faster ram is probably not even noticeable.

I was lucky and able to save some money because I had an older HDD, but it seems that I may be upgrading to a 1TB drive in the very near future ($50), 320 GB is getting full fast.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Ok, I will be using it for college/gaming. The part that intrigued me the most was the future upgrade cabality, because I can work with a max budget around $500 or a little more. Thanks for taking the time out.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

No prob, anytime - just feel free to ask

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

How did you get $35 on windows 10? I only see 106+

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Where'd you look, lots of resources online.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

here at pcpp.. The home version is even around 98.. soo expensive..

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

You said this is your first build, how hard did you find it? Ive heard people say its as easy as building a lego set. Also, what kind of performance do you get in games?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

My son's a lego afficionado and he says it's a little harder. The cable management and fitting the right pieces together can be challenging.

Also, with this build, I knew exactly what I wanted and how much to spend. That helped a lot.

As far as performance, I haven't downloaded FRAPS or any other benchmarking tool, but for me, the speed and quality of graphics is enough. I can play TitanFall 2, Battlefield one and will buy Phantom Pain and overwatch...that's all I really wanted..

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Let me know if you have questions or need help with anything, I am more than willing to help

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build! +1by the way, how did you flash the bios? Did you use another cpu or did you do it via usb? I want to save a few bucks on a mobo but im not sure if I'd need another cpu.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

ASUS is wonderful! I used a G4400 that I had bought previously BUT ASUS motherboards also have the option to flash the bios without a CPU (i think). All you have to do is load the flash image into a USB drive and load it into the motherboard.

Let me know if you have other Qs.

Thanks for the up vote and looking, Aloha from Hawaii

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome! Thanks. I had an msi motherboard that had a feature like that but i never used it.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

The ram is usless... 3000mhz ram but motherboard only up to 2133mhz waste of money... correct me if im wrong anyone plz.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

SSP - you're right, but it was on sale & I intend to swap it out when I build a new video editing computer. This was my first build & I will be harvesting parts for a future build.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome build. The only thing I would change are the RAM modules. 16GB is a lot of RAM, for gaming 8GB is pretty much OK nowadays, and the difference in price could have been invested in a better case.

Aside from those 2 things, the build is perfect for an entry level gaming PC.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks for the feedback. I went with the more expensive ram with the intention of pulling them for a future video editing/streaming build. Sixteen gigs of ram at that speed at that price point was a pretty good deal at the time.

I agree I could have gotten 8, but I didn't want to worry about paging & swapping.

Aloha & thanks for the feedback :)

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Well, since you have a plan, I now see no reason not to get the 16GB kit. That said, RAM prices are pretty high nowadays, I don't remember them being so expensive before.

How do you like the G4560/1050 Ti combo? I currently have a G4560/RX 460, but I miss the Half Adaptive Vsync thing and FXAA doesn't seem to work as well in my current card, so I guess I'm going back to Nvidia in a few months.

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, i'm going to wait for prices to come down a bit, i'm in no rush to buy another 16.

I'm enjoying the G4560 and the 1050Ti, I know I could have waited for an RX480 for $25 - 30 more, but I like Nvidia and for my uses (read: monitor limitations; only 1920 X 1080), it's a good setup. When I do my streaming/video editing build, I'll buy a better monitor, but for what needs are right now, it's a great, reasonably priced card.

Thanks again for commenting and looking at the build,

Aloha from Hawaii

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Well done! Its the perfect budget pc!

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you! I feel like upgrading to the RX 480 now :(

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

Dont, wait for vega if you want to upgrade.

  • 28 months ago
  • 1 point

I have done a lot of research on the G4560 and 1050ti combination and they seem to work well together. I have designed a similar build and plan on building it this summer. (only if I don't have and Cs which is hard when your math teacher targets you and your friends) I do have a benchmark list for some popular games at different settings if anyone wants to take a look.

P.S. The file is formatted for a Mac. Before people start hating on me for having a Mac, my school (private) requires you to have a Mac. This thing costs $1200 and doesn't even have a 2 GHz processor. This pile of scrap metal can't even run Minecraft on Medium settings at a steady 30 FPS

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

try to work on cable management

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

how are your overwatch fps?

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Battlefield 1 medium settings? Want 30fps med settings, does this deliver? Thx

  • 19 months ago
  • 1 point

am i the only one who noticed it is missing a hard drive

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Where'd you get Win10Pro for $35?

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  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, got it. Crap, live and learn...appreciate the help/advice.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

It's only for the motherboard, or drive you store your OS on. Mine was an OEM, and I just used the Microsoft call line to reactivate it bc I told them I changed drives for my OS. Took me like 5 minutes tops.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, good to know. I may transfer the OS to an SSD later this year and get a 1TB for the data/apps.

Thanks

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  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

yeah, it's bugging my OCD lol. I'll get to it.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Fixed :) look at last two pics

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