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Background: I am not 100% committed to PC gaming so wanted to build something that would get me PC level performance to get my ‘feet wet’ and also not break the bank. Additionally, I wanted to challenge myself to build my first gaming rig as it was something I hear my friends gloat about and it genuinely piqued my curiosity.

Additional thoughts: I settled on the AMD Ryzen 3400G processor which is arguably the best APU out there (at least based on my research) that will let you play current titles at respectable frame rates near 1080P, medium settings. I also opted to not purchase a dedicated graphics card until I know I’m committed to PC gaming.

Build process: So. Damn. Easy. It took me about 2 hours to complete this setup. The case is just large enough for the MOBO and PS. Cable management is a bit tough but possible with enough space to work with. Make sure you power on the PC before you screw in the MOBO.

Overall: I’m impressed with the quick setup and the PC is blazing fast. Haven’t had a moment to play any games yet but will update once I have some numbers/performance to report.

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  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Nicely done! You put some thought and careful research into your build when choosing your components, all the while leaving yourself a good upgrade path later on. Seems like you knew exactly what you wanted and were able to stay within a set budget since you're not yet totally sold on PC gaming. Respect.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I really appreciate your feedback! I’ve made a few mistakes but it was expected. The learning experience has been rewarding.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

nice case

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! I recommend it.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

What’s your thoughts on that case? I’ve heard lots of bad things about it but I think I’m going to get it. We’re you able to fit fans on the top panel?

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

I just helped a friend of mine build his new pc in this case I was able to fit a 120ml rad in the back and a fan on top at the same time. it's not a bad case the other cooler master case that looks like this with a sfx power supply mount next to the motherboard is the bad case.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Really? Not according to the internet. It’s always the Q300L getting hate as far as I can see.

Also you say you got a fan on top. Was there a problem with ports on the mobo being too high up?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I had to plug them in first to get it to work

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

The Q500L gets the most hate I'd say the only problem with the q300L is that the holes on the sides could be bigger for better airflow.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

They are the exact same case except that the Q500L has the optional bracket to mount the PSU in front for ATX support.

If you use a Q500L and mATX or mITX hardware there is no difference compared to the Q300L.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I thought the case was good for the price. I am only using the fan that came pre-installed with the case but there does appear to be enough room to install one more. I would not recommend the case if your cooling needs require more than 2 fans.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

You got yourself a nice build right there. Im impressed with the numbers you got for the ram speed. i agree with your approach, go with a cheaper pc to see if its your thing and if it is you can always throw a gpu in later (if you need to. if all you do is play csgo or league then forget it, wasted money). Im always curious when i see those PowerSpec power supplies. Im curious how they will fair in the long run. If im correct they are micro center's store brand (like ONN for walmart's electronics) either way nice first build!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I really appreciate your positive feedback! I realize now that I should have spaced out my RAM in alternating slots to utilize both channels but alas this is a learning opportunity :) As for PowerSpec, I am putting some faith in their bronze rating as it is an industry wide standard but considering that this is a budget build, I wouldn't be too upset if it lasted only a couple of years.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

i think it will last. However i don't find efficiency as a good metric of a reliable power supply. Apeiva makes bronze power supplies and i would take an evga 500 w any day. As for the ram thats an easy fix that doesn't cost you money so its good to make mistakes like that so you learn it on the cheap. If you don't mind me asking what games have you started out with atm?

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

hey, i have a few questions about when i open this up into PCPP the errors that come with it. did you update the bios?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

My motherboard did not require me to update the BIOS for it to boot Windows. You may need to check with the manufacturer’s site to see if they have an updated BIOS available for your board. If so, you can download that to a usb and then manually flash to the new BIOS using the Mobo’s boot utility.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I did not update the BIOS. The card I bought was already updated.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

if you happen to play csgo, how much fps do you get?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I have not played that yet but reviews online suggest that it is easily playable with this setup.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Update on gaming performance:

Apologies in advance as I haven't learned to capture specs accurately so the following is just based on my limited knowledge and experience.

Games: Apex Legends - 1080p, Medium settings, runs pretty well without significant artifacts or rendering delays. I was able to run around and play without lagging. Rocket League - AMAZING. Running at 1080p with great visuals. Immediate button response from my Xbox One controller. Graphics are largely on par with console but definitely would be better with a dedicated graphics card. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - 720p, Medium settings, does not run as well as I thought. I still prefer to play this on my PS4 Pro but it is largely not playable on my build. I may need to adjust some graphics/video settings but I am finding a great deal of lag from my mouse and keyboard while moving around. I also saw some issues with rendering It is almost unplayable for me even at low settings. I appreciate any suggestions to make this better without upgrading to a dedicated gfx card, although it appears that may be the ultimate answer if I want to play any more AAA titles.

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

you might want to consider updating the graphics drivers. depending on how old they are. Also i don't know if you overclocked the graphics at all. I know the memory you got overclocked but overclocking the core might be worth a shot. i would focus soley on overclocking gpu and forget the cpu. the bottleneck would be the gpu so you will want to clock the core as high as you can get it. download heaven benchmark and run it windowed at 900p ultra settings then slowly ramp up the gpu clock speed until you run into artifacting and stuttering. back it down a hair and you will get additional performance. Also with witcher 3 anything hairworks turn it off. hope it helps https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/cg04jn/ryzen_5_3400g_overclock/

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I was using the built in graphics, Vega 11, that came with the Ryzen 5 3400G CPU. I decided to go ahead and buy a PowerColor Radeon RX590 card from Microcenter which was open box for $140. The whole system is running great now with games finally playing at proper 1080p :)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I wanted to go down this rabbit hole but realized that I want to just upgrade to a dedicated card to make it easier down the road.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Very nice build! I will be using that motherboard in my build soon with a 3rd gen Ryzen, did the motherboard come 3rd gen compatible or did you have to update it?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thank you! I did not have to update the motherboard BIOS as it already comes flashed for 3rd gen Ryzen processors.

  • 38 minutes ago
  • 1 point

Great Build This is exactly what Im about to build in next 2 weeks! I do have a question do you plan to over clock the ram to 3200mhz? The cpu supports 2933 is 3200 possible? I was planing to get a 3000mhz kit so I will leave it at stock speeds. Thank you for sharing your build!