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Nevermore--Watercooled and Modified Enthoo Pro M

by Ravenwolf

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Details

Date Published

Jan. 13, 2016

Date Built

Jan. 7, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

3.5GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

26.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

46.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.10GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7.01GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

40.0° C

Description

First Things First:

Yes, there are a lot of pictures. After the initial show pictures, my build log (in picture form) begins. It starts about pic 36 and goes in order, showing a lot of the modification process and how I did things. When I was doing my research, I got a lot of ideas, and learned a lot, from looking at other people's build log/build process, so maybe somebody will learn something or get an idea from mine. Something a little different and, if you take the time to look, I hope you enjoy it.

This was my first totally complete build. I had done upgrades, took PC's apart and put together, but wanted to do an entire build from the ground up. I had a blast and look forward to doing it again.

Background:

A little over a year ago, I was running into issues with my computer. While it worked great, there was not a lot of upgrade potential. Being a pre-built, many of the components used proprietary connections. Still, it had served me well since late 2009.

I started researching computers and found so much new information that the bug bit me...hard. At that point, I knew I wanted to build my system from scratch. I found PCPP and dived in, creating lists left right. Like a sponge, I scoured and absorbed all the information I could find throughout the internet.

Originally, my plan was to get something decent and use what components I could from the old system. My budget was going to be around $2000 for everything. But,then I realized my old system would still have a place in the home and could be used by others here. While all my systems have lasted for years, the way I upgraded was not really planning for the future. I would buy whatever satisfied the immediate need, instead of getting something that would do things that I "might" want to do. So, I upped my budget and worked my butt off to get the computer that I really wanted.

Out of that, the plan for Nevermore began to come together. I started gathering what parts I could (ones that I could test or did not need testing), while keeping an eye on price history and recalling when the best prices occur. And then...then Phanteks released the Enthoo Pro M. My build was going to be an Enthoo Pro, but I loved the way that the Pro M looked and decided that was THE case I wanted to build in and modify. I stared at that bare case after it arrived; drawing out builds, measuring, taking it apart and putting it back together. More price-watching, more lists on PCPP, more working OT. Soon enough, Black Friday Week came and I pulled the trigger on the rest of the components.

Result:

Nevermore took me a little over a month to complete. I took my time and never stopped researching. Some of the components are overkill (YES, I know PSU), but my plan deviated a little from the original, where they would have been necessary. Additionally, as I mentioned, I wanted to build a PC that could not only do anything I needed now, but one that was capable of doing anything I might want to try.

Current/Planned Uses:

It has been so long since I have done any gaming, so I would like to get back into that; there are just too many cool-looking games out there now. More rendering and 3D modeling, and might get back into photography and editing. And...well, whatever comes to mind or I take an interest in.

Thank You and Enjoy:)

Part Reviews

CPU

This CPU has been amazing. It has laughed at everything I have thrown at it so far. While it is not overclocked yet, I do plan on doing so in the near future. Originally, was going to go with the 5820k, but at the price I got this for, I just could not pass it up.

Motherboard

Great motherboard that performs and looks fantastic. Have had no issues with it yet, and the BIOS is very easy to navigate. M-Flash is simple to use and was able to Flash to latest BIOS without a problem.

Memory

Loved the look of the RAM and had an impressive CAS of 12 with the XMP profile enabled. My computer recognized it instantly and has performed flawlessly.

Storage

Using this as OS Boot Drive. It is insane how fast my computer boots up now. I press power on my PC and at the login screen in like 10 seconds.

Storage

Just added this as a place to put games and programs. Load times are incredible and, as always, impressed with the quality.

Storage

Using this SSD as my storage drive. Decided to go full SSD on this build and got it for a great price during the holidays.

Video Card

Uhm, yeah...all I can say is Wow. Compared to my old 760 is not even funny. Runs my system at 2k all day long.

Case

I love this case. I planned my entire build around it after it came out. Was one of the first parts I bought because could not wait. Easy to work with and impressive cable management. Came with more hardware than could ever possibly use.

Power Supply

Completely overkill for my current build, but a fantastic PSU. Comes with every cable you could need, though if you plan on sleeving them, there are a ton of inline capacitors. Ended up just buying the EVGA sleeved cables.

Monitor

Wanted this monitor ever since it came out. Another Black Friday Week bargain and have been very happy with it. AOC packs in every cable you could need. The stand is one of the best I have ever seen with a monitor, though I did end up using a wall mount merely due to conserving desk space.

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mlach 4 Builds 14 points 20 months ago

Not enough pics, at least 200 more are needed ;)

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 2 points 20 months ago

Uhm, I actually have:) "at least 200 more," including building the bending jig (which saw minimal use) and breaking down the keyboard to clean out years of accumulated gunk. The result was fantastic, but it looked nasty with everything off.

TheGamingSlime 2 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

Raven wolf how is the water oolong support in the pro m I wanted to put some monster 240mm rads in it ;). Edit how did you remove the 5.25 drive bay

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

Cooling support is great. Top rad fits on a tray that is removeable. Makes it easy to hook everything up and then slide in when nearly done. My rads are pretty thick at 54mm, yet plenty of room. One thing to keep in mind for top is if you decide to do push/pull fans, there really is not room above the sliding frame to put them, so will all be under. Front area has plenty of room for push/pull.

As you can see, I did not do push/pull and see no reason for doing it later. Temps have been fantastic and have yet to have fans go over 1000rpm, and that is at full load, yet still super-quiet. Neither the CPU cores, nor the GPU have gone above 50c at full load. Compared to my old system throttling down, it is a pleasure to play games or do anything for hours on end and temps remain consistent.

Edit how did you remove the 5.25 drive bay

The bay is easy to remove; just a few screws. Phanteks did a nice job making the case versatile. It comes with more hardware than will ever need (even comes with a pump mount) and was wonderful to work with. I still love the case; not too big, not too small.

TheGamingSlime 2 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

Thank you for the reply no I just need to get the money to buy the case and some custom loops

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 5 points 20 months ago

Thank you all for your compliments:)

Lots of pictures, and I know not everyone wants to look through 45 pages of a build process. So, to make it easier for anyone to find a part that they are interested in, I made a Guide:

Pages 1-5: Initial Show Pics.

Pages 6-7: POST Test, Parts, Initial Test layout.

Pages 8-9: Building the Shroud.

Pages 10-12: Making the Acrylic Light Blocks/mounts.

Pages 12-14: Running wires front/side of case.

Pages 14-16: Some sleeving and more test fitting things.

Pages 16-17: Installing GPU Waterblock and more test fitting.

Pages 17-18: Minor Modifications; Build coming together.

Pages 18-21: Rigid Tubing Installation.

Pages 21-22: Cable Management for backside of case.

Pages 22-26: Filling the Cooling Loop.

Pages 26-28: Loop filled, PSU in, Various pics of PC.

Pages 29-32: New Desk and Cable Mgmt of Full setup.

Pages 32-43: Pics in light and darkness of setup running.

Pages 43-45: Benchmarks and Temperatures.

Pages 45: Thoughts on Watercooling and Final Thoughts.

ÐËÄÐPÖÖL 3 points 20 months ago

FEATURED!!! Awesome build pretty sure it will be featured build soon!!

Persicuta 1 Build 3 points 20 months ago

One in a while we, the people here at pcpartpicker, get to indulge in builds that are amazing beyond words. They simply do not even need a word to describe them. They're like no other, a very unique and charismatic system. You, my friend, Mr ravenWolf have really accomplished the "once in a while build"..Heck this is once in a life time. I think you did very, very, very 10 years later verrrryyy GOOD!

You know, it's almost funny to me since i always tell my self, theres never a perfect build, but if theres something to at lease become close to that, it's your build! Ive built, seen and criticised many water cooled builds, and let me say that you're up there. Theres really nothing else to say, i mean it's near perfection. It looks beautiful, it stands up, i mean even your parts are of best quality. You nailed it. If anything, you don't need a congratulations, you need praise!

Well done, man!

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

Wow...Thank you. I am kind of speechless at your incredible compliment. It is extremely thoughtful of you to write what you did. I appreciate it and am grateful to you for taking the time to look at my build and leave an amazing comment on it.

Thank you...again:)

526christian 3 points 19 months ago

I came here to see the case, got a browser-crashing amount of pics, was not disappointed.

https://i.imgur.com/xRQgte6.jpg

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

LOL...Thank you:)

VinnyPlaysGames 1 Build 2 points 5 months ago

beautiful

Paloro 1 point 20 months ago

Phenomenal build. Very clean!!!

DaveBurns 1 point 20 months ago

Gorgeous build!

jchaywood 1 point 20 months ago

That looks amazing. Congrats!

jchaywood 1 point 20 months ago

Well Deserved +1

klausfaerevaag 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

holy jesus. Oozes class, job well done.

vVTyfighterVv 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

+1 for Poe Reference

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

;)

RyRy 2 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore" ;) +1

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

I love that poem...been running through my head lately. Wonder why?

GrizzlyGoat 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

I'm studying that poem in english and I just finished my homework about it. I come on pcpp and see this lol.

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

this is perfectly laid out as far as space management. makes it look like everything belongs and no empty space.

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

Thank you. A lot of time was spent moving things around and seeing how they looked. There were times, when I got frustrated, yet, In the end, it did come together nicely.

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

quick question, what kinda temps are you getting and is your 980ti overclocked?

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

No, I have not overclocked anything yet. I still have stability testing to do and want to research more.

My temps have been fantastic to me. I listed some HWMonitor screenshots in the pics , but have also been keeping an eye on them as the system sees more use. In the morning, this room is at 22C (72F) and my idle temps hover at 25C for the cpu cores, and 27C for the GPU. As the day goes on, the room temp goes up and maintains at 25C(77F), so my idle temps will go up; 28C for cpu cores and 29C for GPU.

As for load temps, I have not done a ton of testing. So far though, I have not had a CPU core go over 50C at full load, and the GPU has never gone above 46C.

wheatums310 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

Amazing write up, love the build too!

PureBlackFire 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

very nice work. this one should be featured. my friend just picked up that monitor last week at microcenter, it's amazing. if only you had the acrylic window version of this case.

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

Thank you.

I bought the case when it first came out and there was no acrylic window version. However, I agree that it would make it look better. Phanteks is pretty good about offering parts, so may see if can get the window and parts, then modify, if need. Otherwise, making my own full window is a plan for the future...already have ideas on it:)

PureBlackFire 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

indeed. I'm gonna order Bill Owen's replacement window for my Luxe.

OpsR4ng3r 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

Looks like it might be able to run Minecraft.

For real though this is literally the most beautiful water cooling setup I've seen. Way to go.

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

You are too kind; thank you very much. I have never played Minecraft, though I suppose I may get a few fps out of it;)

Meithen 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

Great build, seems like it kind of slipped through the cracks.

How are you liking all the water cooling components?

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 2 points 20 months ago

Well, I hope it helped a few people out who may want to try watercooling or some modding;)

The cooling loop has been better than I imagined. Compared to my old, it is night and day. Temps are incredibly low with the ambient being so high right now, especially the load temps.

Also, my old system had 3 fans and was so much louder than this one, which has 5 rad fans, plus the intake and exhaust. Pump is super quiet too.

Yeah, it cost a lot to do the loop, but so far, I am extremely pleased with it and have no regrets.

Reptilan 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

Quoth the raven, "insert link to this build here".

Bimlightman 2 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

A standing ovation is in order, this is BEAUTIFUL! If only the new acrylic side panel was swappable with the original Pro M, this build certainly deserves to be shown off

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 2 points 20 months ago

Thank You kindly:)

...If only the new acrylic side panel was swappable with the original Pro M...

Yes, when I saw the Full-window version, I was a little <bangs head on desk>, but always had the intention to build one for it. This was an expensive build for me, and took a lot of sacrifice and saving for a very long time. I work a regular job, so bought parts as I could afford them. The case was one of the first, so I could be planning out the build until I had enough for the next component.

I have more ideas, just want to pay down the CC's first. Then...then the full-window will come;)

Bimlightman 2 Builds 1 point 20 months ago

I await those pics patiently! I'm between minds if to go full-window or get someone competent in metal work to extend the current one towards the front

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 20 months ago

Nice build! What do you think of that monitor?

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

Now that I have had it for awhile, I have to say I am very happy with it. Thought about going 3 smaller ones, but a single wide one is amazing. Bad part is...playing games and doing things in 3440x1440 and then looking at 2560x1080...such a big difference and could never go back.

So yeah, if never had it, would not notice, but having it...just wow. Love it.

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

Ok thanks

I think I might just grab 2 LG29um67. What do you think?

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

Very nice monitor. Depending on price, maybe just pick up one and see how it is, before committing to dual. With the widescreen 21:9, you get the feel of a panoramic display.

Otherwise, for the price of two, you could move into a 34" and be set. Maybe go to a store and check the sizes out.

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 19 months ago

I think I'll get one for now and get the other one later

Joe_Cool 1 point 19 months ago

First of all you have a sweet looking build! Nice balanced setup of HW parts too =)

I am building something similar using the same Enthoo case (titanium green). I got a bunch of AMD parts cheap off a friend so I could afford an upgrade over my current 2007-bawx. I chose this case because I'm on a low budget. When I saw your $-total I was wondering why you didn't spend a littel bit more for Fractal Design Define S (window) case? I wanted the Define S myself but found the cheaper Enthoo. The Enthoo is very close in so many ways but I think it feels cheap in quallity. It is stil a super case with lots of excellent design extras for the price! Perfect for my budget. Just think the Define S might give a higher quallity feel on the whole.

After looking at a bunch of your nice pics I was wondering if you had thought of pulling your graphics power cable through the gromet in the back behind the card instead of down? It may look even better cause you will see a little less cable (unless, of course, you want to show those nicely sleeved cables off!).

Anyway, looks awesome with water cooling!

Thnx =)

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 19 months ago

I went with the Enthoo Pro M, because I loved the way it looked. It came down to the Enthoo Pro and the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2, however once the Pro M came out, I knew that was the one I wanted. It was a personal choice. Also, I really liked the placement of the front USB and audio ports; having them on the side is very convenient with the way my whole setup is laid out. It was a small thing, but did have an impact on my decision.

As for the GPU cables, I purposely wanted them where they are located. It was definitely a choice to show them off.

Thanks for taking a look and your comments. Have a great time with your build:)

ParkourPig2014 1 point 19 months ago

Holy mother of pics

lilmalhovic 1 point 19 months ago

Nice Build

SweetDaddyD94 1 point 17 months ago

hi just a quick question how hard is it to find back plates for dual 980ti's for a custom liquid loop thats what i plan on doing on my build its gonna be regular tubing so ya

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 17 months ago

It is not hard to find backplates for the 980ti's, especially if they have the reference PCB. It is actually the same PCB as the Titan X. You can run into issues with any that are FTW, as not reference PCB.

I just used the EKWB Configurator to make sure the 980ti I was getting would have a block and backplate available. Then ordered it from Performance PCs. You can order direct from EKWB also.

There are other blocks/backplates out there, such as Watercool, XSPC, Koolance also. EKWB was the easiest to configure and was very easy to install.

Best of luck to you and enjoy it:)

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SweetDaddyD94 1 point 16 months ago

well then i just did a little derp i decided to make my own water cooled beast and its based off 2 titan x's black and white build but the coolant i am hesentant on should i go clear or white + this will be my first time building a pc so i might take my time on the build so i wont **** anything up let me know what i am missing for parts and any pointers you might have http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wmL3zy thats the build

SweetDaddyD94 1 point 16 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jMM9qs here is the newly updated list for the things i may have forgotten so if i'm missing a few things just let me know

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Your list looks good and saw you added the second pump since running a dual-loop. As you start putting it together and figuring out your tubing runs, you may need additional and/or different fittings...just part of the deal. While I assume you have fans in mind for the rads, I would recommend a fan hub or controller.

I think going with a clear coolant at first is a good idea, especially with some of the potential issues that a pastel seems to be causing. Many use pastels with no problems, yet it only takes once to gum up the works. Plus, can always add dye later if choose.

I definitely recommend going slowly and taking your time. Make sure to POST test, double check all of your connections, etc. Once you have your loops completed and filled, make sure to run just the loops for a day or so; better to discover a leak before can short out a component.

The one big thing about watercooling...if something does not work, or a part fails, it is a lot more involved to take it all apart. While the process can be frustrating, it was fun for me and I learned a lot.

Great build you got going there...enjoy it:)

SweetDaddyD94 1 point 16 months ago

thanks i'm hoping to get it by the end of the year or the middle of next year but ya i do plan on getting fans for the dual 360 rads so ya

PumpkinPc 1 point 16 months ago

Would you recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M case?

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Sorry took a bit to respond. Working a lot so rarely have any free time anymore.

Yes, I do recommend the case. It was very easy to work with and has given me no issues at all. I did not want a huge case, nor something too small. The Pro M is right in the middle and worked out well. Additionally, I just loved the way it looked.

Nicherity 1 point 16 months ago

Would I Possibly be able to change the ram to 32GB?, And If So Which variant of the kingston 32gb ram would I use? (Excuse the poor question i'm kind of new to building PC's)

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

You can go 32GB if you need that much. Just remember with the X99 platform, it is Quad-channel, so you use 4 sticks of RAM. Which speed you use is up to you; they default to 2133, which is more than fast enough for most applications. The 2400Mhz on mine is using the XMP profile, but not a huge difference to running it at 2133. The reason I chose the Kingston was for the latency, yet even that is not a big deal breaker. I would just pick whichever is the least expensive with a CAS latency of 15 or lower.

Lyrix 1 point 10 months ago

nice! 1+!

LinkingPark8200 1 point 8 months ago

Ive been looking around, and with the Windows 10 you have on here, do I need a DVD Drive for that? Im thinking of getting it but I want to make sure before I buy it and need one that I dont have

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

I know with the full retail version like this, you do not need a DVD drive as it comes on a USB stick. With the OEM versions, I am not 100% positive how it comes packaged; I think some are DVD or a download.

OEM are less money, the caveat being that they are tied to the motherboard in the computer you install it on the first time. For me, the few dollars more for retail is worth it, in case I change motherboards for one reason or another. Plus, I know it comes on USB, so no DVD drive needed.

Jacoby2002 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Saving for later

DG3CA 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

I came here from a search for 'Enthoo M Cable Management'. I just bought the case, and have a very pedestrian build mostly done. But I wanted ideas on getting the back less cluttered. I've got 50% less stuff in mine than you have, but somehow twice the cable clutter. = ] Your build will inspire me to take my time and get it streamlined.

And you said this was your FIRST build?? You're such a perfectionist, and obviously quite resourceful. What is your line of work? I'm curious what you're putting your skills to.

Thanks for posting this!

Ravenwolf submitter 3 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

And you said this was your FIRST build?? You're such a perfectionist, and obviously quite resourceful. What is your line of work? I'm curious what you're putting your skills to.

I spent a lot of time planning this build and researching. Yep, this was the 1st full build and I loved it. Sadly, my line of work is not in computers, but in horticulture IPM. It takes up most of my time throughout the year, yet leaves me with a couple winter months to do what I truly enjoy, which is building things.

There is a bit of OCDness, yet for me, the build is artistic, as well as, functional:)

Currently, Nevermore is now Nevermore MkII. The plan is to re-do it again when I have time in winter. Until then, I will use my little free moments to do some planning with the now empty Enthoo Case (still love it).

Thanks for having a look and hope you get some good ideas.

DG3CA 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

Thanks for the reply. I never would've guessed horticulture. = ]

Off to check out your new build!

Anubis_13 1 point 5 months ago

Holy. Wow. I just wanted to see if you had mounted the monitor and I ended up finding the most beautiful PC ever :O

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