Description

I call it The Toaster because it's a metal box that glows red and makes a lot of heat.

As featured in GameRevolution's PC of the week

TL;DR: Programmer and former Xbox fanatic gets mad at Microsoft and whips out the credit card... a lot.

Edit 7/8/2016: Replaced the AWFUL blue RAM with some properly red Corsair Vengeance.

Edit 11/5/2016: EVGA Supernova 650w PSU failed. My fault. I was pushing it too hard and I left it on carpet. This kills the power supply. Grabbed this very red 860w Corsair 80+ platinum deal at a local retailer for future-proofing and vanity reasons.

Double Edit 11/5/2016: A friend of mine was lusting over the 25" ASUS monitors for her photography business. I donated them to her cause. I "upgraded" to dual 28" 4K Samsung monitors which are regrettably TN panels. Hard to go TN when you're used to IPS but I've been doing less photo work and more productivity stuff recently and the extra space is a win. Pros and Cons I guess.

I've been casually tinkering on PCs for several years now, but this is my first ever ground-up build. For my day job, I'm a programmer. As a hobbyist, I'm into photography and graphic design. This build suits my needs nicely, and I'll summarize some of my purchasing decisions below.

Hey look! Benchmarks and Scores

Stock frequency benchmarks
CPU-Z Validated Score

Why?

I was an avid xbox fan in the past. I waited in line on launch night in 2013 and picked up a day one edition Xbone for nearly $700. That was a mistake. After a time, I grew tired of the constant frustrations and limitations and decided to go all-out on a no-compromises PC. This build has seen many iterations through the year or so I've been working on it, but I would consider this close to my initial vision from over a year ago. I game a lot, I code a lot, I take a lot of photos, and I generally ask a lot of my components. I like my PC because it seems to keep up with everything I ask it to do.

GPU choice

I sold the xbox one in the spring of 2015 to buy the first 980. Since this was early 2015, the 980ti wasn't yet released. I knew EVGA had a great reputation so this was a no-brainer decision. This card is wicked fast, and has served me well for the tasks I ask of it. The second 980 came about a year later after the release of the 1080 and the subsequent flood of 980's for bargain prices on eBay. I hadn't originally planned on SLI a year ago, hence the non-reference cooler. However, I find the temps reasonable on both cards even in this confined space and the white LEDs really go better with my build.

CPU choice

At the time, the 4790k was the fastest single-threaded execution chip on the market. It's great for gaming, it's great for some light virtualization, It's great for overclocking, and it is relatively inexpensive for the performance. Speaking of overclocking, The Corsair H110i GTX gives me plenty of overhead, so that's why I chose it. Also, 140mm fans are generally quieter than 120's, otherwise I would have went with the H100i.

Case choice

I hadn't heard of Phanteks before, but hey, I'm new to this. I stumbled across the Enthoo Evolv line and I loved the aesthetic immediately. It looks like a tiny, angry Mac Pro, and I love it. You get a lot of aluminum for the price of this case, and it shows in the sturdy construction of this design. I needed a case that could accommodate an mATX board and the 280mm rad that was also reasonably attractive, and I think Phanteks nailed this one.

Storage

I have a fairly large fileserver at home so storage isn't a main concern. Obviously the 950 pro is blisteringly fast, so that was the main deciding factor here. Also, space is at a premium in this case, so I was forced to remove my 3.5" cages to make room for all the cable management in the basement. This leaves two 2.5" slots behind the mobo for storage, and once you go SSD, you can't go back. I added a 1TB Samsung 850 here for good measure.

Monitors

Three things are important to me here: amazing color accuracy, reasonably compact design, and high pixel density. 25" and 1440p is a pretty sweet spot and is a good compromise between real estate and desk space. For good measure, I added a second display. Yes, it's only 60hz. Yes, it suffers from IPS motion blur. But damn if it isn't pretty. This is a Dell Ultrasharp panel, wrapped up in an Asus monitor. I am patiently waiting for a good, 34," 1440p, 144hz monitor to be revealed... But until then, I'll stick with these bad boys.

Miscellaneous other considerations

Desk: My dad and I built this from scratch. It's made from a reclaimed hardwood butcherblock top and has black cast iron pipe for legs. Very sturdy and I had it waterproofed so no amount of excitement spilled coffee will ruin this thing.

Sound: If you have the means, I highly recommend picking up a set of open-backed Sennheisers. I went a little nuts with these, where a pair of 598s would have sufficed. I like these though, despite what the audiophiles say, this is a great set of headphones when properly driven.

RAM: the one thing I dislike about this build. Doesn't match my red theme and can't be overclocked. Will be swapped for 32GB of red Corsair Vengeance ASAP.

Case fan: Kept the stock 200mm intake fan at the front because it's quiet and why not? Added a red Thermaltake Riing fan in the back not because it's a good fan, but to keep things looking gorgeous. Turns out, it's a decent performer and I wish it were PWM so I could buy two more to replace my stock Corsair radiator fans which are too loud.

Conclusion You're still here? Thanks for reading. I love this build but am always open to suggestions for improvement. On second thought... I really shouldn't spend any more money on this...

Comments

  • 36 months ago
  • 19 points

Someone called my name! Nice build

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha, very funny. ¬¬

  • 36 months ago
  • 13 points

The Toaster

But...but...but you have an Intel CPU

  • 36 months ago
  • 10 points

Nobody said a overclocked Intel CPU didn't heat up a room. :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 6 points

You had better believe it.

  • 36 months ago
  • 8 points

Don't you mean...you butter believe it?

Jam this joke

  • 36 months ago
  • 5 points

Im going to ask you a question: Rye So Serious...????

Why are bread jokes so funny ???? BECAUSE THEY NEVER GET MOLD!!!!!!!

I guess you can say that this Thread is Rising to the Top because It's popularity seems to be leavening quite quickly.

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

This thread needs to be marmalade to rest.

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

GetOut lol

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I once Knew a guy that hated bread....

Rye dont Knead to say what happened. Its Butter that way....

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Ay, = >

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

How does Darth Vader Like his Toast????

A LITTLE ON THE DARK SIDE!!!!

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

boi. STOP UR JOKES. if not. I will say some words. they shall be harsh

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

What Happened when the Bakers wife went home early???

She caught her husband Masterbaking!!!!

LULZ

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

lol :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 5 points

THIS IS A VERY GOOD TOASTER!!!

  • 36 months ago
  • 5 points

It's a terrible toaster! I asked for dark and all I got was mildly warmed bread.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

LOL! Fortunately you could still slow cook it and the entire piece of bread would be cooked thru (sort of). :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Try making waffles then!!!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Hai. I wunt sum toasted bred. Pleez giv me sum hot wurm bred. : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

O hi. Am out of bred. Plz ask cat.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah man. Gotta go on the streets again JK JK :>

BTW the (kind of) fat cat is cute

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Fat Cats are ALWAYS CUTE i dont know why......

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

Nice Cat! Congrats on getting featured!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! The cat is named Sketch. She's basically a dog so I call her Pooch.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol my cat is kinda like a dog too. She play's fetch and swims in water, rolls in dirt and snuggles at night.

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Sketch as in the application? kool.

  • 36 months ago
  • -1 points

No. You are dumb. It should be CONCATS ON GETTING FEATURED!!! YAI!!! : > JK ur not dumb.

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

+1 for cat

Nawww...jk...but yes...nice toaster you got there :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 for small doggo. What is that in your profile pic? Border Collie?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a mix between Labrador and a Thai Breed (Bang Kaew). Her name is Neko (cat in Japanese). Sadly, it's a friend's dog and not mine :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

That's an interesting combo - very cute!

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

The blue RAM sticks out like honey.

But, and I'm not joking right now, I think this is, hands down, THE best build on this site.

Ever

And it doesn't cost X million dollars. It is VERY clean, the red LEDs cover up the CPU power cable, and all the other ones aren't visible. The Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV are IMHO the best cases out there. The specs are pretty good, I'd get a 4790K over a 6700K any day of the week. Pretty powerful chip, works for pretty much everything. The 980s in SLI are still a thing, they'll bring good performance for quite some time.

Only complain is that I think the LEDs are a bit too bright.

+1

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow! I'm flattered! Thanks!!! I hate these blue sticks! They're from a previous iteration of the toaster before I went red/black. I've got some red Corsair Vengeance in my Amazon cart just waiting for payday to pull the trigger.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

The matte finish on the case looks so clean, and the gray isn't as intruding as black. Way more soft. And yes, this REALLY is THE best build on this site. Looks AND performance wise. I'm tired of 980 Tis, 1070s, 1080s, RX 480s etc.

You don't need dat ****.

Jelly

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

My family's toaster was only 30$ :((((

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

How's temperature with the two GTX 980's in SLI?

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Decent... I haven't attempted to overclock, though.

I'm getting 85c on the top card, and about 60c on the bottom card at full load. Still hitting about 1400mhz clock speeds.

Reference cards would have probably been better in this configuration, but I didn't initially plan on SLI when I picked out the first card.

EDIT: Also, it's early summer here in Southern California so it's fairly toasty in my house as-is.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

When I had non reference cards in SLI like that, there was nothing I could do to stop the top card from throttling from heat. And 85C is pretty hot.. they typically start to throttle around 83C I think. I switched to reference cards and now my top card only gets in the low 70s with bottom in the low 60s.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

You don't see any throttling during gameplay on the top card? 85c is pretty high. I would personally look into getting the EVGA Hybrid kits for the 980s. They would increase performance a lot and also increase the longevity of the cards by running at cooler temps.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Not that I'm aware of. I run PrecisionX while I game and it's usually a steady 1.4ghz on both cards. I've looked into the hybrid coolers but it seems like both EVGA and Corsair's offerings only work on the reference style cards because you end up reusing some of the parts. I may be wrong though, perhaps you know something I don't.

I may build a custom loop for this machine for Toast 2.0 in the future.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah you're right. Idk why I thought the hybrid cooler would fit on that model. It is only the reference. A custom loop would be sweet but I would urge you to check out the new(ish) EK Predator 240. It's an expandable AIO system that can include your GPUs as well. It comes in a 360mm rad as well but I'm sure it won't fit in your current case.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-240-incl-qdc

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Dope!!! I didn't know EK made kits like that!

Damn it just as my wallet was recovering....

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

Overclock the bottom card then.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Picture 6/7 is definitely the best.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

PokeCatz 7/6 is definitely better.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Beautiful build. I love the photo of the SLI 980's. Great work!

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Soggy is offended that she did not get featured in your article......just saying.

I like this machine though ;)

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I was afraid soggy would upstage my build so she'll get her own feature later on.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

NO SHE WON'T. I WILL MAKE SURE. (I go running down the streat 2 find that my cereal turned soggy)

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

omg. "GET THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!!" : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

You only got feature because of your cat....

just kidding

Sweet build man, and loved the write up. +1

You say you shouldn't spend any more money on this build..... but we all know you will ;)

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Going for easy upvotes with that cat pic...

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 for that Schiit Audio Magni.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Love it. Modi 2 is on order.

Edit: corrected model #

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Don't you mean the Modi 2?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

yay, A build with my favorite monitor.More pics?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Yes I will have more pics soon, along with a better description. I'm a bit pressed for time today.

You have excellent taste in monitors!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Why the cat? Very cool (no pun intended)

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

The cat tax must be paid.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

lol

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

How much did you spend on the 980's?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Eh, well... The first one was paid for at full retail price about a year ago. IIRC, it was $450. The second card I just purchased maybe a week ago on eBay, NIB for $250. That's $700 not factoring tax/shipping. These cards are crazy cheap now the 1080's are out if you're willing to try eBay.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build. How are those 980s doing? Still considering going SLI...

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Doing great. Together they crush all current games at 1440p. I never drop below 70ish fps on The Witcher with everything maxed, including hair. Not a lot of room for the cards to breathe in this case, so the top card hits about 85c at full load in an un-airconditioned room during the summer. Haven't overclocked the GPUs yet. Not sure if that's a good idea until the weather cools off a bit.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

The real question is: can it run ark above 30 fps

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey, let's be reasonable here. 29fps. Yeesh.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh dam, it could run minesweeper then

  • 36 months ago
  • -1 points

as in Intel ARK? What kind of questing is that? I HIT 75 HZ LOSERS!!! jk lol : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Lmao

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I think you just convinced me to go SLI...BEWARE, pcpp! Coconut Lime 3.1 is coming! : P

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I would recommend a blower-style cooler or liquid but you probably already knew that.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm anyways helplessly devoted to the looks and custimizability of the reference design which is blower-style. ; )

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Got mad at Microsoft for XBOX, and switched to PC to spend $100 on Windows ;). Lol.

Don't worry though, I know that wasn't really the point, just funny from the TL;DR. Awesome build!

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

You know they are making customizable XBOX 1s right?

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Gag

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

They are, they're also bringing a majority of Xbox games to PC. Can't wait for Halo ;)

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

No seriously

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Scorpio and stuff?

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

What do you mean?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not entirely sure, your comment confused me lol. Wasn't really sure how it related xD

  • 36 months ago
  • -2 points

OH OK. I C HOW IT IS. WANNA INSULT ME LIKE A TEDDY BEAR!!?!?!? WHY NOT TREAT ME WITH SOME RESPECT!?!?!?!? THAT CAT SURE IS GIVING ME SOME!!!!! : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice Toaster! And the feline helper looks like it's time for a nap with all that heat.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

I always pay the cat tax.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

: >

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

more like the cute tax : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

You are an idiot. You shouldn't call this the toaster. You should call this the "catster". : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Missed opportunities, damn.

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

Lol it's ok. My build is still awful. Even tho I custom tuned the graphics card (not overclocking, but I did that too) for optimal airflow, and currently that backfired as only less air is getting blown onto the heatsink. Gotta go make some custom parts now... all for a GTX 560... : >

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Ahhhh, pic 6.....the inescapable cat trap!

+1 for the cat and the pc build! :)

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Cat trap is love. Cat trap is life.

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

Don't you dare put shrek in this. That ugly green goblin raided my cute (jk) neighbor and kidnapped her. Very wrong...

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

The Toaster

Now this is a high tech toaster. You can even change how toasted you want your bread by taking off the CPU cooler and playing Metro: Last Light on ultra settings! :P

An awesome build with an awesome name, you have my +1.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Interestingly enough, the way the top exhaust works, it ends up heating the ~1/4" of aluminum of the top panel making for a great pancake gritle. I have yet to confirm whether or not this works.

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

omfg are going to actually make a toaster out of this? wow. Giv me sum bred pleez

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Love the build. Save on heating costs I guess? May he install a feet warmer to stick ur feet in? Just kidding. Well done. I've used a lot of monitors, and the Dell Ultrasharps have very very accurate color and gamut. Easy to calibrate, cheap. Mine's U2413 which covers Adobe RGB, the Green Blue LED back light, although accurate, gives some ghosting. I haven't found that to be a huge issue tho. With other monitors u calibrate ten times, you have 10 different results. ehm Apple I'm talking to you! Never with a Ultrasharp.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Amen to that - these are ultrasharps number 3 and 4 in my house. Can't get enough.

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

Yes. Apple sucks with multi monitors.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Used one back at college, ****. I don't care much for reflective glass aluminium ********. I just need it to be reliable. I hava a 24" Dell & a small 13" GeChic on my hackintosh and that's all I need for 2nd monitor. Even that cheapass GeChic is has better color accuracy that Apple.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Kool. The only reason I don't like Apple (AND I NEED EVERYONE LISTENING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME IDIOTS OUT THERE WHO THINK I HATE APPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT < which isnt tru), is because their devices do not have a lot of standard connectors. Why should I pay another $50 just for some fricking wireless headphones?!?! I have really good wired headphones, and I do NOT want to spend any more money just for a Lightning to MP3 adapter, only to listen to music on my iPhone 7. (I have a 6s, and I will NEVER get anymore Apple Products until they put the MP3 port back {unless it is a charger.})

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Here here.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Forgot to ask, what is the frequency of that cat and how many cores does it have? It doesn't seem to be in your part list.... :P

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

The cat is overclocked to about 2.5 meowgahertz. I tried to push it to 3.1 but I was encountering some some weird behaviors. Gonna swap out my nip to boost the voltage a bit.

  • 36 months ago
  • -1 points

Get it to 3 Meowgaherts or you lose my respect. GAME OVER!! OH YA OH YA

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

that's one nice toaster. Want to trade? I'll give you my toaster oven in exchange for this toaster. Jokes aside, great build! +1

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

If yours successfully makes actual toast I may consider it.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

it burns bread. Does that count?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

This kills the toast.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the name. I think its Hillarious

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

No Slick, you are hilarious.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

What a beautiful build!! You just convinced me to pick up one of those cases. Might have to pick up one of those monitors too.... Sorry wallet!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Check out the ATX tempered glass edition here.

So pretty!

Also, Keep an eye on the monitors - perhaps a CamelCamelCamel alert, as they frequently drop down into the ~$260 range.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

what is the cat benchmarking at?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I tried overclocking but I've found you just can't push this cat very hard. Stuck at stock speeds at the moment. Perhaps I need to rethink my cooling solution....

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I find water cooling kitties to be not worth the effort. In my experience the best you are going to get is on air.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Instructions unclear, stuck cat in sink, did not improve temperament.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Do not do that. The CatProcesingUnit will be electrocuted.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Try to water cool it

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Red HyperX would have been radical. Amazing nonetheless.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm going with Red Corsair Vengeance ASAP.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Man this is awesome, nicely done.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Gracias!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Caattt.....must.....have.....cat.........

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

This one is a little ****, you can take her.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Ty ty! :D

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 for Happy cat; great build too

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Awe I wish Cat Breading was still in vogue. Nice profile pic!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Dat cat doe. +1

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Cat is very pleased with the constant outpouring of love. One upvote = one ear scratch.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes when you have two 980's humping each other a millimeter apart using open air coolers its gonna get hawt

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Just how I like it ;)

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

As a former member of Toastmasters International, I congratulate you on this TOASTY build and getting featured. Please post some updated pics when you get the new ram installed with lower LED lighting, which tends to wash out the electronics.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Will do and thank you!

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

This is prettier than my girlfrined.... I don't have a girlfriend. Interpret it how you will.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 Because all of the terrible puns. XD

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful build man!

Quick question about running the 950pro M2 SSD with that MOBO:

I have the same MOBO but chose an 850pro M2 SSD because all the info I found stated that this MOBO could not utilize the extra speed of the 950PRO. I even put in a support ticket with Gigabyte and they told me the same thing. The 950 would function OK but would only run at the max speed of an 850.

The 850 has worked well for me but just curious if your 950 is running at full speed?

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

This is only half true, and I had to do some research to figure this one out - I had the same question. The 950 pro is a PCI-E 4x card, so it runs at its max speed (~2GB/s) when it has all 4 lanes to work with. In the case of this motherboard, the M.2. slot isn't connected directly to the CPU like the PCI-E slots, but rather, it's attached to the chipset. The upside to this is that even with the SSD installed, all 16 PCI-E lanes are available to the GPUs, so SLI is possible with the SSD installed. The bad news is the M.2. slot is only a 2x slot. So yeah, this mobo isn't able to use the full speed of the SSD, but it is still MUCH faster than an 850 over SATA. SATA III tops out around 550MB/s where I am still able to pull over 1GB/s even on the less-than-ideal 2x PCI-E lanes. I'll see if I can run crystal disk benchmarks for you later, comparing my 850 which I use for storage versus the 950 that is my boot drive. I can definitely feel the difference, as I used to use the 850 as my boot drive, and this is a lot faster to boot. Opening applications and stuff still feels about the same, but it was already crazy fast to begin with. The only thing I notice is that when I'm booting Windows 10, the little spinning dots don't even make a full revolution before windows is ready on the 950 - so that's quite a bit faster than the 850.

All of these points are moot if you instead choose to use a PCI-E 4x to M.2 adapter card and plug the 950 in that way. You'll lose the ability to SLI but you'll get the full performance out of the 950. Also, the Z170 chipset for the skylake chips remedies this by allowing additional lanes through the chipset.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the detailed reply! Interesting to know how the SLI works on this mobo, I had no idea it could support two 980s!

I would be curious to see the crystal disc results if you ever get around to it, I'll try to run some myself. My OS runs off a SATA 850 SSD, boots to lockscreen in 5-6seconds or so which is plenty fast for me. I run all my games off the M.2 850 SSD and it has worked great. I'm not sure what difference swapping the gaming M.2 SSD to a 950 would have on this board if anything, maybe shorter load screens i guess? The load screens are already too fast for me to read the hints on them for most games haha, Masterrace problems... Will be interesting to see how an 850 performs vs. a 950 in that M.2 slot.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

There is a big difference between the 850 and 950 M.2. If I read you correctly, you have the 850 M.2 versus the 950 pro M.2. If not, ignore what I have to say next. M.2 is weird because it can be all kinds of things through the same connector. The 850 evo M.2 still uses SATA, just over a different physical connector so you still have the 6Gb/s bottleneck (about 550MB/s). The 950 is different because it doesn't use SATA but instead uses NVME over the PCI-E interface. That's a special protocol designed just for flash memory that lifts the SATA bottleneck. So the 850 SATA and the 850 M.2 should have similar performance.

I'll post comparison between my 950 M.2 and my 850 SATA this evening. Sorry about that I forgot to do so earlier.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

http://imgur.com/8PY2y8F

950 on the left, 850 on the right. Interpret as you wish.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome thanks for running the comparison, that is a big difference. I wish I'd known this before I bought the 850 but saved a couple hundred bucks I guess. Nice to know I could upgrade to the 950 pro later though. Enjoy the build man!

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey there, lovely build.

That stack of 980 SCs is quite a beast.

How did you manage to squeeze in the 2nd card? (I am thinking about SLI but it's seems really cramp for 0 slot spacing).

At least for me, the USB 3.0 connection (it's quite thicker than other headers) at the bottom of my mobo may interfere with the 2nd gpu (it kind of loops outwards since it's rather inflexible) :(.

Thanks a bunch. Congrats on the wonderful build.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh that's not fun. the USB3.0 header on my mobo is on the right side over near the 24pin connector, so that's not really a problem in my case. As for the connectors on the bottom of the board, I had to carefully route the cables up through the basement behind the PSU. there is barely enough clearance for all the random audio headers and stuff to not interfere with the gpu fans.

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

That panel cover, is that a Phanteks accessory?

  • 35 months ago
  • 2 points

Everything on the case is stock, straight out of the retail box

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

that's interesting, must be an earlier version because my case doesn't have that panel at all

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build and nice cat!

  • 36 months ago
  • -2 points

Can I give a hint? Try BCLK tuning. Start with small increments. It starts at 100 MHz. Go to 100.2 MHz. Play some games for a few hours (it is enough for stress testing it). If it does NOT crash, then up it again. Keep doing this process until it crashes due to instability or overheating. Then bring it down to last stable overclock. Please do this AFTER you have set your max multiplier, as math will prove that it is more effective to increase the multiplier (if the multiplier is under 100) than increasing the BCLK by 1 MHz. Trust me, you will C more performance. So will your cat. I have done this on my Z77 mobo with an i3-3220. I got BCLK to 105.6 MHz max, bringing my speed to an astonishing 3481.17 MHz. I also got my 8 GB DDR3 RAM to 1970 MHz with that BCLK (from 1866 MHz). Also, disable Intel Speedstep Technology, aka EIST. It will ensure that your CPU will run at max speed. This WILL help you out in deciding whether you have a stable overclock or not.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

But the thing is he has a K sku CPU so he doesn't need BLCK overclocking. He can overclock by increasing the multiplier. Plus, Prim 95 is a better stress test than "some games". Just my two cents

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Even if he has a K sku, again, I said Multiplier overclocking FIRST, then BCLK for the fine tuning. Also, Prime 95, while it could stress it, I however like to stress my BCLK tunings by playing games (stuff that I actually do). It's not like I only benchmark on my computer. I test my oc in stuff that I actually do because I get insight whether or not it WILL work when I am actually using it.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

ok

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol wut :P

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Purple sheeple need not apply.

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Simon's cat! Wheee! Thanks!

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  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! The cat is very flattered with all the love in this thread.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Tell the cat to drink some water. He should cool down.

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

ayy da Geek is being Geek but where did all the nice formatting go? :P JK

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, I missed the good 'ol formatting

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

oh, ok.

Yeah, much better. Back to the Geek we know and love :P

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, BaccaFly!

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  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

Are you saying that cat is cold too? that must be killing the cat.

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  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

Curiosity is a virtue, not a murderer. What killed the CatProcessingUnit was the failed watercooling.

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

IKR? It is very....intriguing........

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

What? If his system can hit 120fps then it will hit 120fps. A monitors refresh rate does not limit fps. That's called vertical sync.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually, refresh rate will limit physical FPS (the FPS that you can see). But if you were correct and I was incorrect, try explaining how you will see 120 FPS on a monitor with 1 hz refresh rate.

  • 36 months ago
  • 3 points

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Wait... I think you are confusing refresh rate with response time which are two different things.

Refresh rate and response time do not limit fps.

for your education

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Um, you just contradicted yourself. You are telling me Screen Tearing doesn't matter? That is the MAX FPS YOU WILL SEE. That doesn't mean that is the MAX FPS. MAX FPS should be better known as THEORETICAL FPS, while Mam FPS you will see should be known as PHYSICAL FPS. I was saying, that try to get a PHYSICAL FPS of 120 when your refresh rate is 1 hz. (I doubt that it would even run)

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Woah Woah woah. You said refresh rate limits fps. Which is absolutely incorrect. I didn't say anything about the effects of fps exceeding refresh rate and possible screen tearing. Fact: refresh rate does not limit fPS. Period

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

con·tra·dic·tion ˌkäntrəˈdikSH(ə)n/ noun a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another. "the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions" a person, thing, or situation in which inconsistent elements are present. "the paradox of using force to overcome force is a real contradiction" the statement of a position opposite to one already made. "the second sentence appears to be in flat contradiction of the first" synonyms: denial, refutation, rebuttal, countering "a contradiction of his statement"

Please, show me how I contradicted myself? I state refresh rate doesn't limit FPS, and was supported by an article explaining how each is not related to each other. Hence my stance is that refresh rate does not limit FPS. Do you even understand the word?

What is Mam FPS and what are you talking about here: "I was saying, that try to get a PHYSICAL FPS of 120 when your refresh rate is 1 hz. In what situation will you have a refresh rate of 1hz?"

I play LOTS of games over 60fps on a 60hz monitor with absolutely no issues. Screen tearing is not a given for running fps over max screen refresh.

  • 36 months ago
  • 2 points

try explaining how you will see 120 FPS on a monitor with 1 hz refresh rate.

Wat. You can't. You might see the 120FPS up in the corner but if you monitor could only go up to 1Hz(1FPS) then you would only see one 1FPS.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you. Someone finally understood what I was talking about (that joined this conversation).

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

A monitors refresh rate does not limit fps. That's called vertical sync.

I don't know what the original comment was, but that depends on how you're counting FPS.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

How so? Not that I'm debating this point, I just don't know. My original comment was in response to an inaccurate post about refresh rate limiting fps. Which is incorrect. I might have been to vague though and should have said instead:

Refresh rate doesn't limit fps. Vertocal sync is defined as a rendering option for a video card that synchronizes output video of the graphics card to the refresh rate of the monitor. That's what will limit fps.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

Refresh does limit the FPS you can see. If your monitor can only go up to 60hz(60FPS) then you will only be able to see up to that even if you had 100FPS in a game. If what you said was true then there would be need to pay a ton extra for a 144Hz or greater monitor over a 60Hz one.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not arguing the point of what FPS you can see. I'm stating that refresh rate is not going to limit the hardware capabilities to render fewer frames. That's a fact. period. That's what the original post stated, and after several comments has now been expanded upon. That's what I'm commenting on. Hardware that can run @ 1080p 90fps, 100fps, 300fps will do so regardless of the refresh rate of the monitor. If Berfs1 had stated what he is talking about NOW instead of putting his very simplistic "Refresh rate will limit fps" then non of this would have come about.

FPS = FPS is how many frames your system is producing or drawing Refresh rate = how many times the monitor is refreshing the image on the screen

I'm not arguing what one will see at 60hz, 120hz, or 144hz. ANd I will state again. I said NOTHING about the issues of exceeding refresh rate.

I was going to requote the original start of this, but it was deleted by staff. Wonder why...?

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

That's partially not true

Please watch the whole video.

  • 36 months ago
  • 0 points

If V sync is on.

  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

True

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  • 36 months ago
  • 1 point

This is more than a gaming PC. I'll update the description later on with more info. Also, I'm waiting for the ultrawides with native 100hz to come out like the X34p this fall.