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Hi all,

NOTE BAD CABLE MANAGEMENT

This was my firs build and i was pretty exited. I Built last Friday (12/12/14). I haven't yet got any game on it apart from Minecraft but i hope to play the Assassin's Creed series and Battlefield 4. To be honest this build IS a little noisy - I think i went a little overkill on the fans but oh well... Ill just have to try and use headphones :)

CPU

As I said, I haven't tested it much yet but it looks great. I Had many people recommending either the 6300 or the 8350. I was going to go with 6300 but I expanded my budget and went for the 8350 - hopefully wont need to upgrade that any time soon!!Received a 7.7 on Windows Experience Index - Scores go from 1.0-7.9 so I'm thrilled!

CPU Cooler

Well, this being my first build I had no experience with ANY of this. This took me a few times haha. I finally figured it out and now I'm very happy with it. It looks like a Hot Rod engine. But it keeps CPU nice and cool.

Motherboard

Well, this wasn't my first pick. I was going to go with the MSI 970 Gaming Mobo but the place I bought it all off (PCCaseGear) had run out of stock. I made a rush decision and went with this Mobo. It's ok but i didn't get the opportunity to punch it into here and check compatibility notes. This motherboard doesn't have USB 3 headers to connect to the front panel off the case. It has plenty of USB 2's though. I would recommend the MSI 970 over this motherboard though. I also had a problem concerning RAM. It's a little confusing but basically it works if I put the RAM stick is slots B1 and B2 (Theres A1,A2,B1,B2 going from left to right when looking at the motherboard) it doesnt work but it works any other way. Not sure but i just put one in A2 and other in B2, working fine now. ried swapping it over to B1 and B2 and didnt work.

RAM

Seem to be good RAM sticks. Only reason I gave 4 stars is because of the issue with placement. I'm pretty sure its the Motherboard but may not have had this issue with other RAM - not sure. Got a 7.7 on Windows Experience Index (Scores go from 1.0 or 7.9 - so I'm Very Happy.

Storage

Seeing as it is a gaming build I slacked out a little. It may be slow but it's great for me. Very cheap, got 1tb of storage. Recycled a CRAPPY old 80gb hdd and put a backup of it on their - no harm done. Windows Experience Index only gave it 5.9 for data transfer so no the best but good enough.

GPU

Wow. I love it. From my old MacBook Pro mid 2010 with NVIDIA GeForce 320M with 256mb of memory to this is a BIG jump. I knew it was terrible but i thought it was OK. Man was i wrong. I used to be lucky if I got 20 FPS on Minecraft!!! Now I'm getting around 60FPSt. I love it. Some of you guys might think its bad compared to your 4k cards... Bit I'm just glad to not be lagging any more. Windows Experience Index Gave it a 7.9 (Best Score) for Windows Aero Graphics and also a 7.9 (as well best score possible!!) for gaming graphics! So Happy!!!

Case

Beautiful looking case with the window. Fairly cheap. Loveing the window but i think the ventilation for the fan (in the window) is contributing to the noise factor and maybe if it wasn't there it may be quieter. All goo though :).

PSU

Great little PSU. Has a black mesh type plastic material over all the wire groups. I probably should have come with the modular version for $10 extra because I can see all the unused wires down the bottom and its quite ugly. No matter though. Looks don't really matter I guess. But would have been nice.

OS

GREAT DEAL!! Found on eBay for just $45 dollars. He also sells Home Premium for $40 or Ultimate for $60. Only down side is there is no windows install disk or thumb drive. Although can easily be downloaded (for free) and burnt to a disk or thumb drive and installed. Great little buy and made me be able to afford the CPU Cooler. Unfortunately the same person isn't selling it any more but have a search around and beware for frauds.

Optical Drive

Not listed in parts list but also recycled a REALLY CRAP Optical Drive. It'll do for installing the windows and really its just a 'just incase' sorta think. I recommend buying one of these because... it's can't hurt and if you don't have one... and you need one for installing a game or somehitng... and you don't... then...

Over all Very happy with the build. Would have liked that other Mobo but. Oh well. It's all alright now :).

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  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

The RAM isn't an issue with the motherboard OR the memory, it's that way by design. You have 4 RAM slots for Dual Channel so you have 2 sets of paired ram slots so you have to put the RAM in the correct slots (usually paired A1 B1 and A2 B2) and I believe you want your first pair in A2 B2 with that mobo.

Nice job with that build on a budget though! You'll have a lot of fun.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow! Thanks! been searching for something to tell me that it wasn't a problem. Thanks you made my day :)

Just to be sure... if i want to upgrade to 4 sticks of RAM... it would be fine???

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't think adding more RAM will help with the score, it is most likely getting you on the speed. May want to check the clock speed on your RAM in your bios, I would bet its running at 1600 less you overclocked it already. RAM runs at a baseline of 1600 no matter what it is capable of less you tell the mobo to run it faster with overclocking.

My first upgrades for the RAM would be to overclock it to your mobo's limit of 2100 if it is already at 1866, or to 1866 if it’s at 1600.

To Cap on the Harddrive you would have to swap to a solid state drive. You will see your largest performance boost from this upgrade.

Overclocking your CPU should get you to 7.9 easily.

At this point I would just overclock your RAM and CPU to see where that gets you.

From the looks of your scores and your parts list I would overclock as your first upgrade, you have an aftermarket CPU cooler and RAM clocked at 1866mhz so you should be safe doing mild overclocking. I would research this until you feel completely safe with overclocking then research some more, and don’t forget to read what happens when you go too far (spoiler, you kill the CPU/MoBo/RAM/PSU/ext).

All and all a great build.

*** It’s also time to dump Win7 for Win8, Win7 hits legacy support in less than a month. Meaning Microsoft will only be supporting it with really important security patches and nothing else. You will also see quite a performance boost from Win8 since its lighter and more efficient then Win7.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I understand that upgrading to more sticks wouldn't improve - it was theoretical.

I am aware about the ssd vs hdd and speeds and things. Maybe in a couple of months I'll upgrade to Samsung EVO 120gb and store windows adn games on that (other thinks on 1tb) and that should do me fine for space. I'll look into my RAM but pretty sure its already running at 1866 - just worried if overclocking ill increase heat TOO much!?! - My only worry for RAM. For CPU cooling shouldn't be a problem I'm just a little confused as to how. Will do some reseach

Thanks

Callum

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

At 1866 you should not really see your ram heat up much, what you really need to keep an eye on is how much you increase your voltage by since that is what will send your temps though the roof the fastest (same for the APU).

Keep an eye on your latency, when you over clock you tent to get a higher latency as you get faster RAM speeds. This will defeat the purpose of overclocking, so try to find that happy middle ground.

This will be the most frustrating part of your build with all of the unstable settings you will go though, but it is worth it in the end. Have fun :)

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

definitely i mean it's meant to have maximum of 4 ram sticks as long as you are not installing the rams with different clock speeds which will result to run in reduced speed(in example:100MHz ram paired up with 200Mhz ram will result the total ram to run in 100MHz speed i believe) should not bring down the performance of the overall.

your mainboard manual should have it explained about the ram installation but it could be hard to understand

So i will explain briefly RAM is a hardware which is really fast with the stored up data in your hard-drives or ssds. They provide the information needed for the cpu to do the job but the speed of the cpu processing the data is fast that regular hdds and ssds can't catch up. that's why we have RAMs. By it's name, which will access the random data required by your cpu to do the job at given moment.

now the thing is that in this case, there are 2 channels which can be called as the number of rails which the cpu can read the data off of. the more "rails" it have, better the cpu performance if the cpu can use all of the accessed data at an instant.

so theoretically, your board can access double the speed of the ram if a pair is installed correctly (which is A1,B1 told by top comment and A2,B2 is in the same rail of A and B i believe)

I mean even the wrong choice i've explained at the top is not much of a performance degradation if you do so but still right choices make us happy and you TOO! lol

p.s. correct me if i'm wrong just in case if i'm wrong

p.s. just as what ajpinton said adding rams won't help you by a big magnitude unless you are doing video editing or designing using CAD which would make a big use of big ram space

for gaming 8gig is the sweet spot as of the moment actually

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. Makes more sense now :)

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Dude, if you're only getting 60FPS in Minecraft with that card, I think something is wrong

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably a result of the monitor more so than the actual card if I had to guess.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

It's the CPU Minecraft doesn't run the best with AMD cpu's. Not that the CPU is bad.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Why?? Huh??

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

I Think gaming reaper was right. I just got DiRT 3 and run Benchmark tests in that - with everything on high setting on I got an average of 110 FPS.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

it's just because minecraft is a cpu intensive rather than gpu and it only utilizes single thread

Since amd single thread loses to intel single thread, it can produce lower fps but i think there are mods to make minecraft multithreaded which idk in detail

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

can you tell me if the BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower case is any good your build is almost a like does it get good air flow and or is it quiet

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

It looks good -airflow is good but its a little noisy to be honest.

  • 64 months ago
  • -1 points

Dude, calm down with Windows Experience Index or whatever. Try doing some proper benchmarks like 3D mark and Cinebench (2 I can name off the top of my head)

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Man, i was just mentioning it - is all good.