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This is my first build and it began with a 400ish budget. Although I knew better. It is not a beast of a computer, but it was certainly a beast to build. The price went up primarily because my old windows 7 64 bit HDD would not boot up and I did not want to fight with it. Before my reviews let me say that some of the items I bought were with the intention of upgrading later on.

I went with the FX 4350 processor for the simple fact that I wanted the speed without having to overclock I don't really need more cores than that for what I do, though if I do need to upgrade I will bypass the 6 core and go with an 8 core. Only issue is when I received this it was DOA. I got through newegg and had no issues with getting it exchanged. Really great customer service. Playing with the new BIOS I accidentally overclocked it, still don't know how, I reached 4.6 G and idle temps were still under 40C with stock cooler. It is now back to stock and runs great.

I do not recommend this case. After installing a front intake 120mm fan I can not get my HDD pushed in all the way so I had to leave them pulled out. I think it takes away from the appearance. While it is possible to hide the cables it is not a simple task and only aggravated me further and I eventually said good enough. On the positive it does have a clean exterior look and great airflow with up to five 120mm fans 2 on top. 1 on front, 1 on side view panel, and 1 in back or you could place a radiator on the top for water cooling with ports coming out the back plus the other three fans.

The motherboard is great and I love the new BIOS page, though I'm still learning about its options. Way too many for me. Highly expandable with multiple PCIe slots, 6 sata ports, and 8 USB 2.0 ports. Could have had a couple more USB 3.o slots but again fixable with PCIe card. I am only using 2x4G corsair vengeance ram but this system will utilize every bit of 32G. Overall a great starter build mobo at a good price.

I am using my 8 year old EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS with 256 M DDR3 for now because it is still capable of running all the games I need it to run. Thinking of replacing it with the 750 Ti some time later after I upgrade my PS. It is the loudest thing on my computer now though with the airflow I have it is a little quieter than in my old system.

The case fans give this case a great appearance though they were a bit cheap and have a little noise to them but not bad. Still waiting for the keyboard and mouse so I cant give review of those yet.

Finally I only bought 8.1 because I knew I could upgrade to 10 for free. So I figured I would give it a shot. I think I will be getting 10 real soon haven't had any use for the start page yet and its difficult to find certain programs and features.

Please leave any comments or concerns about my build. Would like to hear what you all think.

Comments

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Decent looking build my friend, and you definitely have some room to upgrade when that time comes. The FX Oct-cores are a beast when you get around to upgrading.

Do a good bit of research before getting a new GPU, though just about anything will be an upgrade. The issue is a lot of previous generation cards are in the same price range as the lower end currently cards, you have to look at performance and cost. For example with Radeon, stay away from the R7's (rebranded 78xx cards) and just get a low end R9 for $20 more and it will be twice as powerful.

I would suggest getting a better PSU. Thermaltake is not known for their quality, and 430w is really cutting it close when factoring a FX cpu plus a GPU. Just the CPU is 125w so about 25% of what the PSU can push when at load, adding the GPU and you would be close to 50%. Now add the; fans, RAM, storage and MoBo you will be really close to going over.

All and all no major complaints, really good job for a first build. +1

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for the suggestions. after what this 8600 has been through it will be difficult to go to anything other than NVidia GeForce. It has been a great card through the years, though it is outdated. I will look into the R9 though. And yes the PSU will be the first thing I upgrade. thinking of the corsair 850w modular.

  • 54 months ago
  • 0 points

I would suggest a gtx 750(ti) over an r9 card. The difference in cost would not be worth it when factoring in the the cost of a new PSU and considering the games he plays run on a 8600GTS :P.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

I am trying to find better games than I have I just don't want any online only games. looking for diablo or doom at good price. something to give it a little test.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

The r7/r9 comparison was just an example off the top of my head, I would bet there is a similar Intel comparison. Though don't knock the R9 cards, the R9 290x2 can go blow for blow with the best gaming cards Intel has (the titan is not a gaming card), I don't know how the new R9 3xx's sit right now.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

I agree, r7 cards aren't worth it when the r9 cards are much better and don't cost much more. I only suggested the gtx 750(ti) assuming he doesn't want to buy a new PSU, pretty much any other card worth buying would put too much strain on his PSU. For 1080p gaming I would suggest the GTX 960 (4GB if possible) or r9 380.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

25 dollar case fan is cheap? lol

1+ for awesome build

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

thank and yeah sorry it was actually the same as the others I need to change that. And by cheap I mean I don't think its great quality though they are somewhat quiet. I paid more for convenience. Only thing close by is best? buy.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm curious. Is your stock CPU cooler quieter than that PSU? My old 8350 stock fan was a monster and everyone in the house knew it. I couldn't imagine any other part in my machine even coming close to as loud as that thing was.

Otherwise, good build.

What games do you play? you'd probably benefit hugely from a new gpu. I remember playing the original Dawn of War on my old laptop with 1gb of Vram and that thing struggled to get me 20-25fps on the absolute lowest settings.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks I can hear at least 1 fan but I am sure it is the GPU it was quite loud in my old PC. The GPU was bought originally for WoW and it ran pretty good. Settings were not quite all the up but close and had little to no latency issues. Mostly now tho I only play tycoon type games and minecraft. Still does pretty good with those. Want Diablo or some other single player game like that to kinda get an idea of what it can do.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm actually incredibly impressed that it can run Minecraft. That game tends to be more demanding then I expect when I get into it.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Here are the specs on it GPU Clock: 710 MHz Mem Clock: 1008 MHz Shader Clock: 1523 MHz and it is BFG Tech if any of that makes a difference. I currently run it at 1440x900 with everything at highest settings and getting 55-60 fps. It has been a great card. Definitely want something else by EVGA.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

You would get away with running a 750 ti that would draw power that is needed right from the pci express lane. Certain designs from evga, msi, pny and zotac allow this. the evga 02G-P4-3759-KB and the asus GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 need 1 6 pin each with 20 amps on a 12v rail. your psu is rated for 14 and 15 on each rail. i wouldnt recommend either the latter of the two i listed using your current power supply.

before that, i would recommend investing in a better cooler. save up a few bucks here and there and a hyper 212 evo is in reach at 30 bucks. if thats out of your reach, a hyper t4 performs adequately as well for around 15 bucks.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks I will certainly be upgrading to probably an 850w modular PSU. This NVidia card has been great and I prefer to stay with something of the EVGA line and takes the 6 pin plug. As for the CPU fan as long as I can maintain it below 50 I like the lower profile coolers. If it gets to the point that it just wont cut it anymore I will likely save up for water cooling. Would rather have radiator on top of PC than a large box inside my case. Just my preference for appearances.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Theres no need to upgrade to a power supply with that many watts available to it given your current hardware, Even if you choose to upgrade to a very affordable FX8350 or a cpu of the like and a more enthusiast graphics card, you wont need it. I do recommend modular or even semi modular in your particular case though.

Even if you decide to stick to team red and completely change out your hardware to support AMDs zen cpus that are due next year, you wont even need nearly that much. I have a feeling with the new design, thermals and power draw will be much lower, even with smt. (even with the support of ddr4)

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  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Currently I don't play much that are demanding. Mostly truck sims and tycoon type games and occasionally minecraft. It was once used for WoW but haven't played it in years.

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  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

It is kinda misleading so it needed the disclaimer. Case was just a pain. Yeah I think it was when I clicked optimal settings in bios not sure though. click this and that without reading the book something will happen. It ran fine like that just not sure how long I was running it though and I didn't try any games. Are there any freeware stability tests that I could get?

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