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Black Widow

by neobe

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10 Comments

Details

Date Published

March 12, 2017

Date Built

Feb. 23, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

4.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

65.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.38 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

6.7 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

25.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

80.0° C

Description

This build replaces my very old X58 i7 build. I use this almost exclusively for gaming.

Building Black Widow was a great experience, I had lots of fun building it. Although I'm not new to computer hardware, I've never picked up all the parts myself and built from scratch. I did a lot of research as I wasn't at the edge in terms of recent computer hardware knowledge. I learned a lot in the process.

Right now, I've overclocked the CPU a bit with the built in settings of the motherboard. I am waiting for an extra CPU power cable to arrive before I try anything more aggressive. The temps so far are great and I'm loving it.

I've also overclocked my graphics card and I managed go about 1380 Mhz for GPU clock rate. Although the temps under load were a bit high (80 degrees) for me.

Uprades

  • Replace the RX 470 with 1080 ti
  • Install Samsung 500GB 960 EVO NVMe M.2
  • Replace the SSD with a 1TB SSD

Part Reviews

CPU

Great CPU and great temps at stock speeds as well as mild overclocks. But it doesn't have much headroom for overclocking.

Temps go out of hand with about 4.7 to 5.0 GHz. I think it can be managed with better cooling.

CPU Cooler

I didn't want a huge fan on top of my CPU. H100i v2 was easy to install and performs very well.

The tubes were very rigid, it made a bit difficult to bring any adjustments after installation.

Motherboard

I love this motherboard. Lots of overclocking options and lot of control. It also features easy overclocking options via software and with a hardware dial as well.

Has a button to clear CMOS built in to the motherboard which is accessible without opening the case.

The software controllable RGB lighting suits great to my black and red theme.

I had my doubts about where to plug the AIO power on this mobo. As it provided one for CPU_FAN and CPU_PUMP. I tested both and it works with either. However, I read on MSI website that the PUMP header is capable of putting out more power. So that's what I used in the end.

The motherboard also has dual CPU power headers. An 8-pin and a 4-pin header. My PSU didn't have extra CPU power cables and I was in doubt whether I could boot without the CPU_PWR2. I tested with 1 8-pin header and found out that it boots and works without any issue with the 8-pin alone. Later I read that the extra 4-pin is necessary when aiming for higher overclocks.

Memory

Nothing to complain, gets the job done. I like the fact that these are low profile and have no idea even they're there.

Storage

Great SSD for the value. Performs really fast, about 8.5 seconds to boot Windows 10.

Video Card

The best for the budget. Provided that I'm currently playing at 1080p, this card can manage most games with high or ultra settings with a decent frame rate (45-60 FPS).

I also managed to get about +150Mhz overclock which was great though it ran a bit hot (80 degrees) at that speed.

Case

Looks awesome and very easy to work with. Has dust filters and comes with 2 fans. Mounting the 240mm radiator of H100i v2 was as simple as it could be. Cable management was super easy.

Love the way how it show cases the SSD in front of the case, it also has two more SSD slots inside. Has more than enough 3.5" drive bays which are well hidden.

An extra +1 for the magnetic head phone mount that comes with the case.

Power Supply

I was initially looking at the 850W version of the RMx series. This isn't the best power supply for this build. It has only 1 CPU power cable. While my motherboard needed two. Currently my motherboard runs with 1 8-pin without the extra 4-pin attached to the PSU.

I have ordered an extra CPU power cable separately. And may replace this with a higher wattage PSU in the long run.

Comments Sorted by:

Manula.Pabasara 1 Build 1 point 25 months ago

wow It looks great man with Red and grey theme!

neobe submitter 1 Build 1 point 25 months ago

Thanks!

bohemond1980 14 Builds 1 point 25 months ago

Nice looking build. But yeah, definitely need a better GPU if you want to max out games. If you're @1080p a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 480 will do great on high/ultra settings; 1440p I'd say minimum GTX 1070/80. @4K; better be buying two top end cards; i.e. 2xGTX 1080s or 2xGTX 1080Tis, because no single card is going to carry you there on the highest settings and in the most demanding games.

But if you can wait until Vega drops, might have a some better deals and/or a better card to buy.

neobe submitter 1 Build 2 points 25 months ago

Thanks. Truely said about the graphics. I think I'll wait for Vega. That'll drop the prices a bit I hope.

orightt 1 Build 1 point 25 months ago

Should have cable managed a bit better kind of weird seeing those chords going all over the aio tubes lol

neobe submitter 1 Build 1 point 25 months ago

Yeah. Just waiting for an extra EPS cable before that

arosso 1 point 25 months ago

Great build and parts! I'm interested on the case for my own build. I was planning on getting an nvme drive instead of a sata ssd. Would you say that the bracket on the PSU shroud would look awkward without a drive there?

neobe submitter 1 Build 2 points 25 months ago

With the case lid in place it doesn't draw too much (any) attention. Those brackets are removable too, though I have no idea how it looks like when removed.

I have ordered my m2 SSD and its on the way. I plan to keep my current SSD the way it is, and use the m2 as the boot drive. And the two SSD brackets don't bother me at all, so I'm just going to leave them there. I guess its personal preference.

arosso 1 point 25 months ago

Good to know the front bracket is removable, thanks for the info, it's truly appreciated. I'll be looking into it further. I guess I'm a bit ocd as the thought of a somewhat odd-looking psu shroud has made me look elsewhere.

For that m.2 boot drive you plan on getting, would you also put some games on it and use the SSD for other things (pictures, non-gaming programs, etc)? I'm thinking that might be the route I'll go for my file placement.

neobe submitter 1 Build 1 point 25 months ago

My understanding is that the speed of m2 nvme is negligible in gaming. I'm looking for faster boot times here with nvme. I'd use the existing SATA SSD to hold games, change that to a 1tb in the future. Full game archive would be on a NAS.

I myself believe am in need of some expert advise for this I suppose.