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A very close friend of mine was wanting my help in building his very first computer. Some of his requests included:

1) That it wouldn't be very large (so, I thought mITX or mATX) 2) That it would look awesome (have some lights, but not in a dorky way ... and he really likes the color yellow) 3) It could run pretty much everything you threw at it 4) It would cost a lot, but not TOO much ;)

Knowing that he would probably like to upgrade some in the future and wanted to keep costs a little low, I suggested a 2Tb hybrid drive instead of an SSD and a separate mechanical HDD. Also, the EVGA GTX 960 was on sale for the Holidays, so we went with that instead of the more expensive GTX 970 (and it seemed like the 950 wasn't "fancy" enough for his purposes).

He also wanted a "future-proof" type of monitor, keyboard, and mouse set-up; something that he could kind of keep forever even if he chose to upgrade the CPU, GPU, or anything else inside the machine in the future. We went to the store and tried out different mice and finally settled on the Logitech G502. For the keyboard I suggested the Corsair K70 (non-RGB, again, to save at least a little dough ... only $109 at Best Buy), and he fell in love with it instantly.

For the CPU we went with an unlocked Core i5 and coupled it with a Corsair H80i GT. *WORD OF WARNING ... if you're trying to fit a Corsair H80i GT into the Corsair 380T mITX case, it's a REALLY TIGHT FIT. In fact, if the RAM were just a fraction of a millimeter taller, we would have had to forego the water-cooler all together. If you get taller RAM (or RAM that has special lights or heat-sinks), you'll definitely run into problems. Also, the only orientation that we could figure for the H80i GT to fit was to place it toward the front of the case (in front of the motherboard and right behind that large fan that comes preinstalled).

The second issue we had was that he initially wanted a 750W power supply instead of a 600W one. This case is so small that you really need to check before-hand which power supplies will actually fit. While it does fit ATX power supplies, most power supplies giving more than 600W or 650W will likely be too long. With that said, there is a way to make a long power supply fit. If you remove the 3.5" drive cage and use a Dremel to grind down a little "nubbin" that sticks out to hold the 3.5" drive cage in place, you can slide and mount a longer power supply in there. But, then you're left with only being able to use 2.5" drives. Rather than go that route, we went with a smaller PSU.

So far, he's loving the build ;).

Comments

  • 47 months ago
  • 3 points

A very tight fit, eh? My PC's H55 had to be turned sideways in order to fit a graphics card and not have to mod the case in order to fit the power supply. No offense intended, but I think I have more of a tight fit than you do. Especially with the amount of clearance between the side of my rad and the bottom of my PSU.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I didn't have the parts to experiment, but my guess is that this case could probably fit something even larger, like the H100i GTX, the only caveat being that you have to get some low-profile RAM. It's certainly long enough to mount an H100i on the right-side (if you're facing the front) of the case. It's just that the rad is so thick that would probably run right into the top part of the Kingston HyperX's. I'd love to try this build with like a crazy-overclocked i7, some low profile Crucial Ballistix, and an H100i. Would probably destroy some PC's that are twice it's size :).

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

I know right. Have you seen Linus Tech Tips' 18-Core Xeon and Titan X in a shoebox video? Talk about destroying PCs twice it's size.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Again, just a theory ;). I don't actually have an H100i, or Corsair Ballistix ;).

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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Good to know :). Thanks man! I'll be sure to keep that in mind in case he ever decides to upgrade.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

you should call the build " My Fat Bumble Bee" great part choice though.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

really nice build man the case is always a treat, unique compared to the hundreds of mid towers. hope your friend is having fun :)

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

I have the Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum. Paid $80 instead of $50 for it and the colors are amazing!!!

Still trying to get used to the Gaming software.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice :). Where did you find it? I kind of like the feel of that mouse. Right now I'm using an EVGA Torx.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

I found mine at Best Buy. The mouse feels so sturdy and some of my friends feel jealous.

  • 46 months ago
  • 2 points

For those that are doing a similar build, the H80i will most likely NOT fit unless you're using the exact same build as robatienza.

I have z170n gaming 5 mother board with the 380t case, the H80i was too thick to fit inside.

  • 46 months ago
  • 1 point

H80i GT*

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/08/04/msi_geforce_gtx_960_gaming_4g_video_card_review/1#.VsUC2PkrK70

I find this article on the GTX 960 4gb vs. R9 380 most valuable Boils down to a personal choice. But if people are using a 150W higher PS for 380 kinda makes you think. BTW - I don't think it's 50% - it's 50 Watts difference.

With that 600W he can go SLI with GTX but not Crossfire if he had R9 so --- sup with that?

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

cause he has a itx board? lol

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I didn't even notice that he can't go crossfire or Sli with that board :(

  • 47 months ago
  • 0 points

R9 380 can be found for $170 and R9 380x for $200 at the moment. Power consumption between the r9 380 and the GTX 960 are extremely similar, while the r9 380x on average consumes about 5% more power than a GTX 960.

If you want to achieve absolute maximum cooling performance with water cooling, and perhaps the highest tier of cooling before liquid nitrogen, you probably want to throw in some Delta AFB1212GHE-CF00 fans, that provide 27mm H2O static pressure each and 240CFM at 62dB being a 120mm fan, which I am positive is the best fan for water cooling, but is certainly on the high side in noise levels. Inside a "closed" case, this will make much less noise.

Here are some videos of comparison on GPUs, please understand this is about 3 months ago and that there have been driver updates. Also understand that power consumption of the GPU in your build will be different, as the PSU in the video is Bronze certified.

AMD GPUs will only gain performance with further DirectX 12 title releases (strangely enough Nvidia GPUs lost FPS due to DX12 while AMD gained), Vulcan APIs, and more driver updates:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-I7Nm3a1Nc (R9 380x vs. GTX 960)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uOLoKV7b7Q (R9 380 2GB vs. GTX 960 2GB )

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4Ok84h3bI (R9 380 vs. GTX 960 vs. R9 380x)(newest comparison video I could find, unfortunately the video is not English, but results are.)

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

i have a 380x and consumes like 50% more if not even more when iI bring it to 1150 I dont know where u take that 5% from, there is no doubt at the buy performance per dollar the 380x is way better (i bought it for something, also cause i love amd) but 960 draws A LOT less power

  • 47 months ago
  • 0 points

Strange, in multiple videos that show benchmarks between the GTX 960 4GB and r9 380x or r9 380, there is not anything more than a 30 percent difference. I have never seen anything else to the extent of 50% in any game.

  • 47 months ago
  • 0 points

Really, power consumption depends on different uses. Testing power consumption in FurMark made the r9 380x only consume 12 more watts than the GTX 960, but in some it went up to as much as 30-40, but absolutely never over 50% more than a GTX 960 in ANY scenario. Check this source for example: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-960-g1-gaming-4gb-review,7.html

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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree ... but he was insistent on overclocking, so we went with an unlocked one. Especially being his first build (and knowing that he probably won't actually experiment with overclocking), I would have gone with a slightly less expensive i5 and did without the H80i. It does look cool though with the H80i in there ;).

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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! He's really, REALLY liking the build. Like I said, his favorite color is yellow ;). So far the dust filters seem to be doing the trick. We have the H80i blowing inward (and there's a dust filter on the little door on the side where the air for the H80i would be coming in), the main 140mm fan on front blowing in, and the PSU (obviously) blowing inward from underneath. It seems to have an overall "positive" air pressure inside so the last time we opened it up there was absolutely no dust inside. The filters were starting to get pretty caked in dust though :). Really though, thanks! I'm glad you like the build.

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