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The Christmas Gift

by calash

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Details

Date Published

Dec. 26, 2015

Date Built

Dec. 25, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

4.4GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

32.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

58.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.22GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7.01GHz

Description

Background: I am a part-time gamer and full-time PC tech. Having a house to keep running I cannot always indulge myself with the latest upgrades. As a result I have been running a…...Dell XPS Gen5 with the Pentium-D chip and Geforce 9600 card.

I will pause for the laughter to subside

This year my wife suggested I build a new computer for “us” as a shared Christmas gift. After much debating I agreed and came right here to reeducate myself in the finer points of PC building.

Build Info: My main goal was to get something modern, but within a budget that would give me a good foundation for later expansion. While my initial idea was between an ATX and Mini-ATX I ended up settling on the smaller Micro-ITX as it would allow more portability between my computer station and the TV.

Overall my current needs are low. The highest resolution screen in the house is the TV at 1080p, and many of my games are older, from various bundle sites and served via Steam.

Parts

Note: I do realize some of my selections may be a bit unbalanced. At the time of purchase my goal was future growth. Still I could have saved a bit of money here are there as you will notice.

Also, not listed are a 180gb SSD and 2tb Western Digital Black drive. These were purchased via our company outlet so I did not include them.

OS will be Windows 10 Pro x64. I will be using a free upgrade attached to a already owned Windows 7 License.

On the topic of cooling, I stuck with all stock as I had no plans for overclocking at this time. With the recent info about SkyLake OC availability this may change, if that happens I will add in a better CPU cooler. That assumes MSI does something similar to ASRock

Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case : When I first came here for build ideas I saw this included in a build and found myself drawn to the square form-factor and customization. This choice is what put me on the smaller build path.

As noted in other reviews the PSU bracket is difficult to work with. I found my best approch was to assemble the 2 parts of the bracket in the L shape, mount the PSU, and then partly screw in the bracket. Then I had to “fish” a bit to lock in the free side into the hole, located at the very bottom of the drive cage.

Almost no noise from the fan.

Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor: I wanted to save money while still allowing for improved gaming without bottlenecking my card choice. The i3 seems to be perfect for my current needs and going with Skylake would give me future upgrade plans.

There was also a few reviews about boosting the i3 performance with faster memory, influencing both my choice for memory and a system board.

MSI Z170I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard: While looking for a board that would handle faster memory and my i3, along with giving me future growth to an i5 or i7 I stumbled on this gem. I could have gone with a less expensive item but I think the bit of investment will pay off, especially with the reports of overclocking coming to the non-k chips.

If any single part is off on my build I would guess it is here. That being said it is a solid board so time will tell if the more cost effective options would be best.

On my completed build I updated the BIOS and noticed that it let me change the Base Clock. For testing I have it at 101.1.

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory: I originally wanted 16gb but to save some money I went for 8. Based on a review about the i3 and fast memory I went with DDR4 2666 memory to see if I could squeeze out some performance. It will also allow me to upgrade the chip first without needing to touch the memory in the future.

The look also drew me in.

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card: I am a NVIDIA fanboy. My past builds have almost always had their cards. The few times I did not use them did not work out well so I tend to stick with them, even after all this time. This card was at a good point for both price, performance, and memory.

My current desk setup has 2 DVI monitors and this car fit the bill as far as outputs while also having a HDMI and Displayport should I ever need them in the future.

EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply: I found this power supply on some of the builds using the Thermaltake case and felt it would be perfect for my needs. Being modular should help me be a bit cleaner on my cabling.

Most of my worry about the build is here as I am not sure how this PSU will fair as I upgrade components in the future but that is down the road.

Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler: This was added on 1/24/2016 to support further overclocking of the i3-6100. The install required additional fan ports to make it work. I am not linking to what I used because the quality was too low for me to recommend, but it takes 4 pin Molex and splits it to 4 of the 3 pin fan ports providing 12volts on each. As the PSU comes with a molex cable this is now dedicated to this fan port splitter

The install was a bit of a pain only because I had to pull the PSU. The radiator is mounted on the right side (if looking at the case from the front) and close to the front so I can take advantage of the air filter. This means I moved my window to the left, where it belongs.

Go slow with this install. Make sure the plastic is flat on the bracket for best results. The tubing is a bit stiff but mounting it this far allowed a bit of leverage to get everything right.

The pump is on the new 12 volt plug and the intake fan is on the CPU header. This is not the recommended setup but I wanted to keep fan control on the system board, and in turn in the MSI command center.

CPU is running -20c cooler at idle and never gets above 60c. The noise is a bit louder than the default cooler but the fan is closer to me than it was before so I expected this.

OS: Windows 10 Professional x64 (1511 release), UEFI boot on the SSD. Nothing special here as this is technically a “Shared” PC and my wife will need access via her account as well.

Updates 1/18/2016 - It is the new year now and after some tweaking I finally got the Non-K Overclocking to work. Currently I have my I3-6100 running at 4.1ghz using the stock cooler, settling around 68c during extended Fallout 4 plays. My inner IT guy will not let me push it farther without investing in a better CPU cooler so that is first on my list, probably something liquid cooled that can mount to one of the empty fan rails.

I also gave the video card a bit of a OC as well. It was not needed for any of my current games but I was able to get my benchmark scores up.

1/24/2016 - I got my Corsair H60 installed. The notes for this will be added above in the parts list. As of right now I am running at 4.4ghz and keeping mid-50c for temps during extended play sessions. I did try to push it farther but ran into stability issues on the i3.

Part Reviews

CPU

For years i believed that the only good use for an i3 was a low power laptop. This chip has proven me wrong. It is a great entry to the Skylake generation and easily takes all the games I throw at it.

I have had no bottlenecks with the GeForce 960.

Motherboard

This board is high on the price end but it was worth the expense in my mind.

The MSI Live Update utilities seem to have some issues with the latest round of drivers and patches but so far everything outside of the .17 version of command center installed manually.

It was a lot smaller than I was thinking but performs very well.

Video Card

A little powerhouse that pairs very well with my i3 Skylake.

There is a firmware update that took care of some random fan spinning up issues I was seeing..

Case

Overall this is a solid and well designed case. It lost a star for me with the PSU install as you have to get a bracket to latch on the hole in the drive cage, well out of sight. A long plastic tool will help to maneuver this while preventing the scratching.

I put the window on the right side until I get some good measurements of the video card temperature.

Comments Sorted by:

biggles5107 2 Builds 5 points 19 months ago

I do realize some of my selections may be a bit unbalanced. At the time of purchase my goal was future growth. Still I could have saved a bit of money here are there as you will notice.

The only thing you could have really saved money on is the mobo, but if future growth is your goal, I don't disagree with any of your part choices. I'd love to see more internal pics though.

calash submitter 1 Build 3 points 19 months ago

I added a few in. I do want to see if there is a better way to tie down some of the cables so they are not so much in the airflow from the front case fan. Temps are fine so it is not a huge issue for me right now, just something to do for future cleanup.

floridaboz 4 Builds 3 points 19 months ago

liking the build and chances of future upgrades

jnanof 32 Builds 2 points 19 months ago

I am torn right now between a $50 mobo for the i3 and a $120 ish z170 for the same reasons. I also read that faster ram make a measurable difference as well as being able to overclock. But then I think well I can get the budget mobo and ram and the i5 6500 for the same price. Can't decide!!

Your parts all look great to me. I have used that case before and really liked it.

Nater650 2 points 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure the i3-6100 is a non K chip if you want to overclock and have an i3 just update your BIOS again so your MB supports Kaby Lake CPUS then just buy yourself an i3-7350K if your inner IT guy and wife will let you

Travisjmc 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Wow, no bottleneck on the 960? I'm planning a build with the 960 and was wondering if it would.. my friend said I should go with a faster CPU but if it doesn't max it out, I don't see why not..

Nater650 1 point 2 months ago

Since when can you overclock a non-K series CPU. If I remember right intel might have fixed that problem by only producing CPUs that were specifically designed for overclocking

Nater650 1 point 2 months ago

If you want to keep your i3 and overclock, if your wife will let you, get an i3-7350K and a Z270 mother board

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calash submitter 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

Coming back I realize I misread you question.

There is a "custom" MSI Firmware that allows you to overclock the PC by changing the Base Clock in the BIOS. Here is some basic info:

http://overclocking.guide/msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/

You can find my notes in the comment there, but basically I had to make sure to clear the firmware via the button on the back several times.

Once it is working I took it slow, adjusting the BLCK, then memory speed to keep it below the memory speed so it would boot.

One thing I did notice is my voltage does not seem to be set correctly. The Firmware screen reports 1.1v when I am set at 1.3v. This may be preventing me from being stable at 4.7ghz, I had to back down to 4.6ghz

calash submitter 1 Build 1 point 17 months ago

I have not been as aggressive as I probably could be with the chip. As of this morning I am running the chip at 4.5ghz with the core voltage at 1.175v (Reported by CPU-Z, the Firmware setting is at 1.360v). Any faster and the PC does not boot so I may have hit the max on this chip.

I have seen some posts out there where they got the chip up to 4.7ghz. I may wort on that when I have more time but for now I am happy with what I am able to get out of this I3.

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calash submitter 1 Build 1 point 17 months ago

I loved the case, with the exception of the PSU install. It is just awkward to try and put in.

DDR4worx 1 point 16 months ago

I thing the case is ugly. can you put some more pics I may change my mind.

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