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2017 P4 to G1610 Awesome results

by paulmg

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Details

Date Published

Dec. 10, 2017

Date Built

Dec. 9, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

2.6GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

28.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

33.0° C

Description

Hello,

I will try to make this story as short as possible, but if you prefer to know the end first, I can tell you that this G1610 turns to be a great cheap option to give some extra good life to this bunch of electronic left overs.

A couple days ago, I had a lot of pieces of old pc's laying around on the house so I decided to do something with them or my wife will send them to the trash!

So I took an old Compaq Presario mini ATX that where siting on the bottom of the closet for some time now and after checking that the system doesn't boot I toked off every thing from inside. It had a P4 641 HT processor on an dead Foxconn lucknow 945 motherboard, some capacitors show signs of being leaked some stuff and had a little odd not cilindical shape.

First from three options of mother boards I piked an Intel DH61CR LGA 1155 the newer one I had but with out CPU (2nd or 3rd generation Core processor support) the other two where LGA 775 and a AMD 939 socket.

I remember It uses to have an I3 3225 CPU on it but I sell it when I upgrade to a Haswell. So for CPU I went to look at internet and decided to go for the cheapest option I can find to test the board, and I found a Celeron G1610 @ 2.6 Ghz Ivy Bridge for just 10 USD including shiping. I knew I could go for something better but since I didn't know if the board will going to work so I prefer to spend as little as possible to go safe first. I forgot to mention that the Celeron has a iGPU so for the moment I can skip to ad a dGPU.

Since the CPU I picked didn't come with cooler I graved a reserve one I had, a chip Chinese one. PCCooler Q100M. I can recall it was very silent and works great at least for the C2Q 8400 it uses to cool, and the red/orange color will bring some life and looks to the build.

The intel mobo uses a DDR3 ram with a maximum capacity of 8 GB (2x4), and I had luck and have 2 different sticks of 4 GBB 1333 Mhz one Kingston and one Ramaxel. Maybe they are not going to work on dual channel but at least they will fill the whole capacity.

For storage I chose a good PNY SSD 120 GB SATA III that is two times faster than the SATA II ports the mobo has but it will work. I could put instead a 250 GB 7200 RPM WD drive but I think the SSD could help. Maybe I could use this WD as a second drive in the future

PSU again I went to a spare cheap one I had with a rated 650W all black. It is a generic one, but my OC / Gaming times had gone so no fuss about it.

I got an extra 17" LCD to connect to the VGA port, usb keyboard, usb optical mouse, small speaker and a DVD RW optical drive to re-use and finish assemble the pc.

With the help of some electronic cleaner, thermal paste for the CPU, and about an hour of work it turns on with out issues.

First boot to bios and set every thing to default, check the CPU, ram and SSD data. Ok

Second boot from USB pen drive with a Linux Distro to check every thing is working as expected and I can tell that every thing went much better than I expected, and to my surprise really snappy.

Third boot I had a spare Win 7 ultimate key, but since W10 is easy to test and install from a USB I decided to give it a try. Almost every thing go as expected, but a lot of time compared to test a full linux distro; after the installation and the extra time it takes to download all the last upgrades it works really good except for a annoying problem with the W10 and Intel network drivers that randomly doesn't work, but searching in the net I found is a well documented problem and the fix is going back for the Win 8.x driver!!!, after that every thing work wonderful.

If you think I just spend 10 USB building this PC project for resurrecting a lot of rejected or not in use electronic parts and the fun involved with it, I'm very happy with the outcome and finished with a working 2nd PC that for basic use (office software, web browsing, e-mail, youtube, and a a like) it has little to be ashamed off compared to my i5 Haswell Lenovo Yoga laptop or my G4560 Skylake PC.

Last thoughts: Celeron's had a bad reputation of being not good for too long, but I think is not well deserved, you just have to be realistic about their intended purposes, capacities and cost. Building this project has show me that for basic stuff Celeron's including this 4-5 year old Ivy Bridge are still really capable of most basic and mundane everyday tasks.

If prices keep going down for 2nd and 3rd generation CPU's maybe in some time will extend its useful life time with a 4 core 4 threads i5 2500 or 3570 that are about at the same desktop speeds of likes of i3 6100/7100 according to CPUbenchmark

Prices on the Part List correspond to the prices I paid for them time ago. The second stick of RAM (RAMAXEL) wasn''t on the list so I put a Kingston similar alternative. The Intel board and CPU prices are the actual street prices on my country but the mobo I have it for long time stored, the only new buy for this project in the list is the CPU.

Part Reviews

CPU

4 to 5 years old tech (2017), but still usable for today every day use, quite surprised how handy could it be a CPU for $10

Motherboard

Old LGA 1155 Socket, no USB 3, SATA III ports or HDMI output, but could handle a still reasonable fast cpus with great Intel quality for very cheap price tag

Memory

Is RAM, it works as expected with no problems, And for me Kingston has worked all ways.

Storage

Fast and reliable for the price, There are a lot of faster and bigger SSD, but for a average Joe PC user there is no reason to pay more for some thing most of us will not fell the difference at least on speed

Optical Drive

Works, a little noisy at start

Other

Cheap build and low cost, but works good, and is quiet

Comments Sorted by:

fn230 10 Builds 2 points 9 months ago

That Celeron is generally comparable to or better than an old Core 2 Duo, and those things are still usable. For basic stuff, at least. So I wouldn't call it bad.

paulmg submitter 2 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

Thanks, I'm really happy with the outcome and surprised with the performance/$ from the Ivy Bridge Celeron.

Vairfoley 23 Builds 2 points 9 months ago

Perfectly great computer for web browsing and basic use. Nice work!

paulmg submitter 2 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

Thank you, It works really nice,

Exavier11 1 point 9 months ago

If i hadnt read the disc, i would have said that you were on a tight budget building a pc for a young kid whose only interested in web browser games and youtube

paulmg submitter 2 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

Thank you for your comment. Except from the CPU every thing is from leftovers from previous builds and originally it didn't have any specific purpose except from the fun in building it. The SSD I think is one or the principal reason the system feels a little quick, and is the newest part of this build. At the moment I'm using it to play around to test how much juice I can take from it to let alone and safe my main PC. I installed a couple of old games like CIV, Need for Speed High Stakes, GP4 and EA F1 2012 and they run pretty well.

llamafacelukas 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

This was fun to read. Really great use of previous generation Intel parts and others. Good job on the resourcefulness.

paulmg submitter 2 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for your comments.

I being really happy playing with it. I was thinking before building it that the G1610 would be used just to check the board and if every thing works then replace it with some thing more powerful in the i3/i5 line since it the Celeron is the slowest and weakest of all the Ivy Bridge CPU's but for a second PC that is used just for some media streaming, web surfing and social networking it has turned to be great. I would not say the IB Celerons are a beast, but for basic requirements with enough RAM and a entry SSD drive it will work nice.

I will be adding an update soon, since W10 Falls Upgrade made my life a little difficult with this PC for three weeks so I did gave a try to W7 an a Linux distro, so I ended with a dual boot.