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Virtual machines: Ubuntu, CentOS, OS X, Windows 7

Media service via OS X server.

30GB raw, 16TB usable, 1.9GB/s read speed

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  • 64 months ago
  • 27 points

The cleanliness is on a new level. You sir, know the definition of insanity.

  • 64 months ago
  • 12 points

One does not simply.... have 29.9tb of Storage and doesn't get a +1.

  • 64 months ago
  • 7 points

Epic cable management man! Great work! +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

just, a Define XL R2 was better to house this stuff. Great tidiness though, a nice sight. N very good deal on Extreme PROs, they are a steal for $144 (if you got that price)

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! The R4 was from a previous build as was the mobo/CPU/RAM.

The SSDs are just the Extreme I older versions but they weren't in the part picker list. They were leftovers from decommissioned servers so... free!

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

f r e e ?! weeeeeeh good for you :D

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah, so that explains it. But why not sell them off and get a much better - like 10Gbps or at least 4Gbps - home network? They really aren't giving you a lot of bang for their value in this config.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

On Black Friday I got an extreme pro 480 for $184.99 the 240gb were on sale for $99 they went quick! Almost as fast as a 850 pro at almost half the cost! Yes please. 10 year warranty sure! these are freaking great drives!

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

they went on sale in Italy as well (Amazon) for black Friday, and I swapped my 240GB bought one week before (returned it) for a 480 one.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

What are you using this computer for? Seriously just as a virtual machine? Looks nice but I'm calling overkill on this.

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

Media service via OS X server. Second line in the description.

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

So does he provide media or does he receive media?

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Provide -- using Plex and iTunes home sharing and file sharing of the content drives.

Receiving is done via Transmission/NZBVortex on OS X and Transmission on ubuntu.

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

Ah, that's cool. Nice job on the cable management btw! Wish i had that much skill

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! The SAS breakout cables to SATA are sort of cheating.

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

Receiving by Transmission on Ubuntu? You mean, just file transfer, or play? There are nicer torrent clients on Ubuntu... but I guess there's value in just having one torrent-based architecture for everything. Would like to see the details of this setup actually.

One plus is that the exact same configuration can be opened up to wider file sharing when NFS or other more typical file sharing systems would start to have problems with their security and bandwidth assumptions - no such issue with torrents!

  • 64 months ago
  • 3 points

I'd say that based on his virtual machines, he's using the machine for development as Cent OS is an open source version of Red Hat Enterprise Edition. If that's the case, development machines are quite resource intensive.

Figure each virtual machine needs a full OS of memory reserved as well as at least one core dedicated to it if you want any form of decent performance; thus the heaps of ram and an i7.

Running a virtual machine off a SDD drive vs a traditional drive makes a world of difference; just from personal experience.

I'm also guessing that if he's running OSX with a media service, it is probably plex server; meaning he's hosting.

Overall, I'd say the system isn't overkill, depending on what the main intents of the system is.

  • 64 months ago
  • 5 points

^ All correct. Except the media service and storage is a bit overkill still as it only serves 1 Plex client right now and is > 50% free space.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Gotcha. I wish I had that kind of free space for my Plex server. :) I am running virtual machines myself as well for similar reasons, so I had an idea where your resources were going. I just made the dumb mistake of going with a K series CPU.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Haha and when I think back to when I purchased this 4771 I bought it and not the K version because I didn't want to overclock not because I wanted VT-d. My main machine is OC'd to 4.7 right now.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice. :) I only got to 4.2ghz on my i5 Haswell :(

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

"Jaw Drop" Damn. Now that Is Clean

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Saw this on /r/pcmasterrace earlier today, nice build

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Cables look clean even in the nether parts of the case! I also like that the PSU provides good peak efficiency + insurance against aging.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

That's a lot of storage. I only use like 50GB of my 256GB SSD >.< :P

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Dat cable managment tho

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

just for the cable management!!! +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

16 drives of storage.....

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

My god. That SSD collection. +1

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

That is one full case! Makes me wonder why not go for a full tower though? If noise was gonna be an issue you could have thrown in some sound dampening foam.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

R4 was a leftover from a previous build so no reason except re-use. I do like full towers (my other machine is a Caselabs M10)

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh ok that makes much more sense, so jealous of the case labs! I would love to have one but the price tag is crazy.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Very clean extremely nice!

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Great cable management but why if you spent four thousand dollars would you get a $30 graphics card the Intel graphics are better

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! It is for PCI passthrough under ESXi -- One of the OS X VMs grabs the 5450 and uses it as its own to run a 1080p TV. I only have an x4 lane left or I'd have something better in it.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

It's pcie3.0x4 isn't it?

This techpowerup article has tests on a 980 and it seems like it doesn't lose much performance really:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/1.html

You would probably have absolutely no need for one in that machine, but a 750ti would probably not lose any perceivable performance, and could potentially serve up 4k content?

Anyway, +1 for a great build :-)

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! One issue is that the bottom slot I have left won't take a double slot card like a 980 or even an R270. And I can't put either of the RAID cards into the bottom slot as they need more lanes and won't boot in the x4. So I'm probably stuck with the 5450 or maybe a 7750 if I can get one that fits the bottom slot and the fan isn't too large. No big deal, I don't see myself with a 4K TV for at least a year or two.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Pcpartpicker doesn't seem to list it, but how about this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-061-KF

Single slot 750ti! As you say may not be worth it, and buy the time a 4k tv would be probably worth it, it won't be the best single slot.

I'm just nitpicking at this point, it's a great build! Do you have another pc to rip all the stuff to drive?

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! That is cool, never heard of a single slot card that high-end. By the time I get to 4K I'll probably have a different motherboard in for more lanes.

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Dear god the amount of por- I mean games you could download on that system is insane!

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

mind = blown

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Am I allowed to ask why you spent around $3000 on storage?

  • 64 months ago
  • 2 points

Sure, go for it.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Uncountable terabytes of storage

5450 Seriously?

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Try connecting the power to them.

  • 64 months ago
  • 1 point

Holy Sh$^ I didn't' see the power cables the first time. Damn impressive.

  • 63 months ago
  • 1 point

The onboard intel HD 4600 is better than a radeon HD 5450, why did you stick with the 5450?

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

PCI passthru for the VMS. You can't pass the integrated graphics through for a VM to control like you can with a cheapo card. That card runs the living room TV via VM.

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

Which was my only reason not to run VMware ESXi... hardware limits. Support for many common cheap cards like the D-Link gigabit ethernet cards was withdrawn in 5.5 and 6.0 and 6.5, it's nowhere near as flexible as ESXi 5.1. Which is a reason to use virtualBox and Zen etc, not VMware, if you have no real reason to run Windoze.

VMs obviously need to control some graphics capabilities in some media-intensive apps, but an atlernative would be to run a 100Mbps Ethernet port to a smart TV and use virtual video driver. Which I assume VMware ESXi supports somehow... unless... this is the kind of thing I didn't want to look up, so I went with bare-metal Ubuntu server that hosts OpenZFS just fine.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

wow

  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome sauce!

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

Woah. 1200w WTF?

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

Not seeing the "media serving" side of this... that box has specs like a database server. If you want to serve up 4K media on several streams but make the box out of garbage from the dumpster, try boosting from this build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Craig_Hubley/saved/CnBvK8 [in that I didn't really use a 1GB silent video card, it's a 256MB ATI 2600 HD Pro... from the garbage]. My SSD is the intel 600p, a M.2 for under $100 (but with a strict write limit so you don't use it for swap or temp, just OS/apps), and junk 'green' drives in a mirror config (because they're unreliable for anything else).

I wonder why Hardware RAID? Software disk processing in OpenZFS works great... hardware RAID is scary, you won't be able to find that card/ROM again if it blows, and good luck recovering your data. Better write down every cylinder detail of the RAID config if you want it to survive a card loss.

I wonder also why OS X anything? Solaris and FreeBSD are free... and they are designed for this stuff. Apple is designed to suck money out of you, and nothing else. What works in BSD, they cripple in OS X. Apple doesn't even support ZFS or OpenZFS itself, they want to sell you on their half-baked HPFS+.

The lack of networking oomph is surprising. This motherboard is dual-GbE but I got three GbE into my machine to separate file serving from other uses (like firewalling) and would go to five GbE (to make the host a router also) under TrueOS or Ubuntu Server or even ESXi (with like a $70 intel 4-port card from usedservers.ca or something) in preference to speeding up the CPU. Also some cards take a lot of load off the CPU...

So while this nice i7 build would saturate 220MB/s with that processor and storage, is it worth that much money to do it? Two much cheaper FreeNAS boxes would do the same. Unsure... I'd like to know how much the ESXi and virtualization slow it down compared with metal install. I almost did ESXi but first I want to get the ZFS storage and NFS clients established and the network optimized...

The box mandate is confusing: "media" serving? What media needs this kind of firepower to serve? At 220MB/s you can serve up 90Mbps 4K streams to >20 people at once... with the right network / TVs.

Remember, even a Seagate Central with its pitiful CPU and laughable excuse for an OS can serve up 1080p fine over a gigabit network. Smart TVs only have 100mbps Ethernet, because that's all they need (raw throughput of a DVD 720p of the disk is 10.01Mbps, meaning, 9x that for a 2160p picture is just 90Mbps...<100Mbps).

So for "media serving" purposes in say a hotel a well optimized network should have a managed (likely PoE-capable) 100Mbps switch, dedicating a port to each 4K TV, with room for VoIP phones, security cameras... go to 1Gb PoE if you want, it's out there (and US$8/port for 6-port passive 12 or 24 volt)...Keep your dual-GbE devices separated on their own backbone/subnet. One big host like this i7 monster per hotel floor would do you for a while... but it seems overkill even for that need.

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  • 64 months ago
  • 4 points

Well there is one: PCI Passthrough under ESXi -- you can't passthrough integrated graphics.

One of the OS X VMs grabs the 5450 and uses it as its own to run a 1080p TV. I only have an x4 lane left or I'd have something better in it.

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