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UPDATE - 11/10/18

Updated photos

I played around with the fans to get some better thermal performance, as the case would get very hot to the touch when under load. Some kind people on Reddit helped me out with some good advice. First I flipped the 2 CPU fans on the heatsink so that they were exhausting air instead of taking it in. This seemed to make CPU temps go up by 1-2 C, but not much else changed overall. Next, I took the rear fan from the heatsink and mounted it to the 92mm fan mount on the back of the case so it could exhaust air from the whole case instead of just through the heatsink. And that's just what this build needed to bring internal temps down.

Here are the new temperatures compared to the old ones. I have also updated the old temperatures to more accurately reflect the stock conditions with the CPU fans set on intake:

  • CPU idle: 36 C (+1 C)
  • CPU load: 67 C (-8 C)
  • GPU idle: 34 C (+0 C)
  • GPU load: 70 C (-8 C)

However, I would like to note a few things. I have not overclocked my CPU, and I did end up using EVGA Precision XOC to bring my GPU power target to 80%, which has reduced temperatures by 5-6 C. I did this because I prefer a cooler and quieter system and the GPU heats up the CPU quite quickly in this case. The GPU is more than enough for the games I play, and I have not noticed any downsides to lowering the power target. Note that this is different than underclocking. The case itself is now cool under load and heat doesn't build up like it did in the previous fan configuration. It seems quieter as well!

One last factor that most likely impacts thermals is ambient temperatures. On a hot day, the PC does have a harder time dissipating heat and temps can rise a few degrees. The temps above were recorded at a room temperature of about 22 C (72 F).

Also took this time to do some better cable management and dust off the system. Now I'm even happier about this whole thing! I almost ended up getting an Arctic Accelero III for the GPU but I'm glad I did some testing first. I'm waiting for a very short molex power cable for an RGB strip, a new pair of Sennheiser PC37X's, and a better case for my keyboard to arrive. Lastly I changed mice and got a black G703 (love it!) and got my custom mechanical keyboard back in action.


Original build post

Yet another update of my previous, short-lived build that you can find here

List of changes

  • Replaced Core V1 with Ncase M1
  • Removed cable extensions
  • Replaced stock cables with braided cables
  • Replaced H7 with M9 Plus
  • Removed PSU bracket
  • Removed fan splitter
  • Replaced 80mm fans with 120mm fans
  • Replaced extended mousepad with smaller mousepad
  • Added black cable combs
  • Added RGB lamp

I decided to just go all out and get a Ncase M1. I let go of my trusty Core V1 because I've always wanted to downsize, and having extra portability and desk space while in my college dorm is definitely worth it so far!

When looking for a good CPU cooler, I checked out Cryorig's website because I planned to go with the M9i over the Noctua U9S to save some money. While I was there I saw that the M9 Plus was on its way into the market, and I thought it'd be a perfect cooling solution.

Building in this case was pretty straightforward, although it was a bit tricky with cable management and mounting the SSD on the front of the case. I had to redo the mounting when I put cable combs in to make sure it was secure.

Here are the temps with everything at stock settings (updated, see top):

  • CPU idle: 35 C
  • CPU load: 75 C
  • GPU idle: 34 C
  • GPU load: 78 C

Keep in mind that it gets fairly warm where I am (regularly 80+ F) and my room doesn't have good circulation.

I'm a little disappointed in the temps, but I should've known that they were going to be high with the tempered glass panel. For now I have lowered the power limit of the GPU through EVGA Precision XOC, which can bring down the temps quite a bit. I haven't noticed any drops in performance even though its running at around 72 C under load at about 80% power. I might put different 120mm fans at the bottom at some point to reduce noise but these Arctic fans work pretty well so far. It's about the same in terms of full load noise when compared to my rig in the Core V1; I was hoping it would be a little quieter since I wasn't using the 80mm fans anymore, but oh well.

Only issue with this case is that an open air GPU like this one really heats up the CPU, and the whole thing gets very toasty, but I think the positives definitely outweigh the negatives.

In the future I might get an Arctic Accelero III for the GPU to improve temps. One more minor thing I had to sacrifice in this case was my LED strip, so I already have my eyes on RGB RAM or possibly a new mobo that has a 4-pin RGB strip header. But for now I'm very content with my setup.

Custom mechanical keyboard that is shown in my last post is currently under repair.

Farewell V1, you served me well for 9 great months :'^ )

List of peripherals

  • Dell S2716DGR
  • HyperX Cloud II
  • Logitech G703
  • Anne Pro mechanical keyboard (old photos)
  • Custom mechanical keyboard (new photos)

Feel free to ask any questions or leave a comment. Thanks for reading!

Comments

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Always love to see a ncase build, you could check out the arctic accelero iii, i know someone on youtube but one on a evga 1080ti sc and inside the ncase it preformed well.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Will do, thanks!

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Sounds like a micro BEAST! This is how you leave a console or budget PC in the dust on a tiny foot print.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Super clean!

I feel like your temperatures are pretty solid. You might be able to shave a few degrees on the CPU with a delid and liquid metal. Might look at the Rockit88 upgraded IHS also. Probably good for a few degrees. Honestly, even at 70 C, your CPU is pretty good. Thermal limit on the 8600K is 100 C, so you are still pretty far off from throttling.

In regards to GPUs... I feel like 72 C is still okay. I think the key to keeping GPUs cool is having good airflow in the case and feeding the fans with nice cool air. Given your form factor, I can imagine it be a little trickier to keep cool.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah it seems like this is almost the best I can get it for now

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

I find myself wondering if a high end fan like the Noctua A12x25 would work any better. Slick looking build! I can see myself looking at a stack of cable combs and saying "...Nah..."

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Amazing

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow, you did a one-for-one swap between a Thermaltake Core V1 and NCase M1? That's amazing! I had no idea a full-size tower could fit in the M1. I'm especially fond of your desk pics with the light from the window softly reflecting off of the glass side panel (RTX IRL amirite).

What's wrong with the custom keeb? It looked like a fairly complete, largely flawless build. I've got a set of box burnt orange switches and red keycaps that need a PCB, plate, and case to get going. I'm trying to figure out what layout to go with (leaning toward 65% vs 60% for arrow keys... not that I really use them but... "just in case").

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah just had to swap out the CPU cooler!

The keeb had Box Browns installed and it must have been a defective batch or something because they started to click on the upstroke and downstroke after only a few weeks of use. Really disappointing because I loved those switches. The issue was stemming from inside each switch so there was no easy way to solve it.

Either way, I know what you mean about the arrow keys. Just waiting on some more browns and keycaps to come in before I do a 2nd version of my keeb, gonna add arrow keys and shrink the right shift to make it fit. Really tempted to jump on some new boards though...I hate this hobby haha!

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Always +1 for an Ncase.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build, I love tiny cases

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Cannot believe the size difference between NCase and the previous case. Good work getting everything in there.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Always a +1 for a fellow NCASE user.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build,

Just out of curiosity can you check if placing the case vertically improves temps? I always thought that having a bottom intake for this type of cases is restrictive and a vertical layout would be more adequate. If only Corsair ONE case was sold separately, that thing even fits two 240 mm radiators.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Im thinking of getting the same GPU, how do you like it and would you recommend it?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, I like it and would recommend. It stays pretty cool for what it is

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

What is the name of your lamp?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Its the Aukey RGB lamp from amazon

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome! Thank you!

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice setup.. Like the keyboard

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow this is such a clean setup. Could you tell me the name of the desk? If you still remember. +1

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Haha it's actually just an old desk that comes with the apartment (I live on campus at a university). You could probably find something similar for free or very cheap on craigslist if you live in a populated area

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

How is the Cryorig M9 Plus? Does it keep your CPU very cool? How well are the temps compared to the H7?

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Its good but the H7 is much larger and I don't really think they are comparable. The H7 is about 8-10 degrees cooler under full load

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

ok thanks

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

How much of an improvement are the temps compared between stock and m9 plus?

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