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Well, since I finished school last year. I've been wanting to build a system for fun. After pushing it aside due to bills, I finally got a chance to build "it". This is what came out of it. This system was aimed at playing games at medium 1080p although I do admit,i need a GPU change before that happens.

Processor: i3-4150 I didn't want to go the AMD route, as the FX 6300 seemed to struggle with some games I wanted to play. This was the cheapest option that I could pretty much go with and I can pretty much say it's much better than my old core2duo computer.

Motherboard: MSi H81M-E33 This was a really simple choice. Did it have a pci-e x16 sloth and could fit in a case? Well, from my current experience with this motherboard,it's brilliant. The click and drag bios makes everything much easier for someone who has never done this before.

Memory: kingston HyperX Fury Blue It runs fine.. that's pretty much it. Although it does run at 1600mhz instead of 1886mhz.

Hard drive: Samsung spinpoint M8 1TB 5400RPM It's pretty much silent. I was originally using a 3.5 inch but my computer case seems to make a rattle with that in it.So i switched to an old 2.5" hard drive I had lying around from an old laptop. It's fine for the things that I do.

Graphics card: HD 7750 I've been using this for a while now. I plan on using it until I get a 960 next later into this month. It's great for playing your average games and maybe games from pre-2013. Tried some newer games and it can run them but at 30fps and tends to be a mix of custom "settings" at 900p or 720p.

Case: CiT Marvel This is the case I've been using for a few months now. it's fairly small for a m-atx case. I haven't bothered hooking up the fans inside due to not being able to find an adapter for the molex cables. I guessthat can wait a few days as the cooling seems fine.

Power Supply: CiT 500w 80+ Bronze It seems to be fine for the most part, will replace later on though. It's a good power supply and has lasted a few months so far and seems to be going strong. I've been trying to listen for a whine or anything of that sort, to see if it will "die".

In conclusion, it's a great little computer. Might work on the cable management at bottom, as it seems to be annoying me. Might upgrade the Power Supply and might change out the HD7750 for a GTX 960.

Comments

  • 47 months ago
  • 3 points

Change the PSU. Horrible capacitors and cheap Chinese components means it is dangerous to your PC. Switch it out ASAP!

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Will do. Think I'll go for an EVGA or Corsair power supply.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points
One of these would be good:
- XFX's TS 430w - No Modular
- XFX's ProSeries 450w - No Modular

If you are looking for a further upgrade path then something like below is preferable.
- SeaSonic S12II 620W - No Modular
- EVGA's G2 550w - Full Modular
- EVGA's G2 650w - Full Modular
  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

What's the difference between G1 and G2? I bought the G1 because it was $20 cheaper.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

The G1 is not too bad, but the B1 is really bad.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points
Right, however despite EVGA's B1 and 80+ (I meant the ones, 430w & 500w 80PLUS) are made by HEC, they are OK for the internet/office builds. Though I should also say the 400w with no certified sticker is also by HEC, not that it matters too much either about those certifications... cannot say it is "bad". If one just saves an additional 20~50 more then something better is available. They are OK if I saw them with... you know, non-demanding daily tasks. Though yes, better options are there.
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
Correction: I know this may not be much of an answer but EVGA's GQ, G1 & NEX series is made by FSP which are OK but I normally avoid them since there are better options by now. EVGA's B2, G2, P2 & T2 are made by Super Flower which are the best to have. EVGA's GS is made by Seasonic which are good too but I notice G2 or P2 tend to have some good deals every now and then. Most tend to recommend them regardless of what price they may be. So basically there is a quality difference per say.
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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

GQ is FSP-built. Which I maintain is not a bad thing (see Jonnyguru score of 8.5). G2 and GS are slightly better, sure, but they also have a higher MSRP. If they're all the same money it's a no-brainer, but for a $20 price difference I'll take the GQ every time.

EDIT: Ok, that was a bit of a rant. Sorry. Just getting weary of the Seasonic/SuperFlower cult decrying everything else as not worth the PCB they're printed on.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

Great build for a first timer that has no idea what he's doing We've all started somewhere.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I think that PSU may set your house on fire if you upgrade to a 960, but nevertheless, nice little PC.

  • 47 months ago
  • 0 points

Yeah, I plan to upgrade my power supply before that happens. I've been trying to find reviews on said power supply but they all seem to have no information about what's inside.

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  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points
Reflecting upon their prices, somewhere in the UK: XFX's TS would be better or their Pro Series. EVGA's 500w is OK but it is not the best either. An i5 paired with a GTX 960 will be alright with a 430w or 450w PSU. I can for certainly say so with my father's non-overclock PC.
- XFX's TS 430w
- XFX's ProSeries 450w
  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks for the advice. I'm not completely sure about which power supply to get yet but I still wont be able to upgrade for another 4 weeks or so.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
No worries. I only listed on what is good PSUs in your area to use for your build. Some may be overkill depending what route you desire for your PC but it does not hurt to buy a good, quality PSU.
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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
The ones I listed are made by Seasonic so they are good. Not saying OP had only those two options, hence the reason I re-comment with OP. They are OK for the non-overclock gaming intention so can for certain with an i5 + GTX 960 but yes if want better headroom for a higher end GPU then EVGA's G2 550w/650w is an option for OP. Though I think they got a CXM 500w or intend to get one?
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm an advocate of "use the dual channel setup" for memory. I would need to see some test (synthetic and real world, both) of a system that is configured with 1x8 and then versus 2x4. I'm pretty sure it's more than 1% difference. anyways

your ram runs at 1600 because the board's max ram speed is 1600mhz. So no matter the speed you use beyond 1600, it will downclock it to 1600. And your cpu works with 1600mhz ram, if you go faster it's wasted. But sometimes the 1866mhz is cheaper than 1600 so why not.

use cpuz/cpuid and you can see what are the actual settings used for the ram (speed, latency, etc)

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Your motherboard wasn't rated for 1866 MHz RAM speed, which is why it's running at 1600 MHz and instead of getting the GTX 960 why not just pay the same amount and get better performance with a 4GB R9 380?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah. I suppose so.

It all depends what's in stock, I suppose.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Like everyone is saying, I would definitely upgrade your PSU before everything else. It's basically a ticking time bomb that can compromise everything else you have. Overall, it's a good build. Especially for your first time. With your CPU I might have gone with a FX6300 it's about $10 cheaper and it has 6 cores. But with your build you have an Intel upgrade path.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Already done. As for the FX6300, it causes frame drops in several games that I like to play. it's not a bad CPU at all but in my case, it just makes more sense to go with the option that had better performance per core.. if you know what I mean?

Sorry if it sounds off.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Makes sense, and personally I actually don't like how people always go with the FX6300 for budget gaming builds. Since AMD's 860K is actually a better budget option. But 6 cores is definitely awesome.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Any consideration for a 380? Its slightly better for the same price

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

I've thought about it. It seems to be cheaper in some areas.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

PCIe x16 sloth? Do they make good pets? Joking aside, tiny_voices is right. That PSU will damage components. I would recommend an EVGA G2 or GS, or if you want something a little cheaper go with the GQ series.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry, I ended up writing it on a bus. Pesky auto correct. Thanks for pointing that out though.

I've ordered a new power supply and it should be here on Monday. Got a CX500 M on offer.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

......

A CX SERIES? Why? When there are so many better options? Okay, it's not that bad, but still not the best and you could have bought something much better.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
I agree. Oh wells... it is better then the current one for now.
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Cheapest.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I will leave others to comment on the PSU. Personally I would have gone with the FX6300 if you are not going to upgrade, and the i3 if you plan on bumping to the i5 in the future. Many of the new games coming out are recommending a quad core or requiring one flat out. The FX6300 being a 6 core will play all games coming out, maybe not on their highest settings but it can play them. The i3 no matter how powerful its single/dual threaded performance is still is not a quad core and cannot run those games. What really matters is that it plays what you want to play well. +1

This was far from a clueless build, it looks very well thought out.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I think I will upgrade to an i5 later on.

I had trouble choosing the parts beforehand as everyone was suggesting parts that would be over kill for the games I'm playing.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

That is very common right now. No one really needs the power of an i5 or an i7 aside of needing a true quad core. GPU's still have a bit to mature, but CPU's are stupidly over powered right now. You may have noticed skylake dialed down the clock speeds of the CPU's in favor of efficiency. This is due to no one really needing the power.

I would not bump up until you run in to a game (or task) that needs a true quad core. I have an i5-4690k and I rarely see it go over 50% usage on anything I play.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, in the games I play my CPU stays around 30-40%. Then again, I tend to play older games and less demanding stuff.

I've been able to run newer games though, which is nice.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Case and opinion?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

It's all right for the price. It does feel cheap though fits everything I could want into it.

I need to do some measurements for an exact GPU size etc as CiT don't seem have a website.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

You Wasted your money on that cpu... The Pentium g3258 is 50 bucks less and can be over clocked to 5.0 ghz but good build other wise

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd like to stay away from over clocking until I've learned a bit more about it. As for the G3258. I don't think so, as some games that I like to play require 4 cores. Well.. or 2 with HT.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Most Games try to use 4 cores but can only utilize 2

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

No. Some games I play wont even run on the G3258.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

  • 47 months ago
  • 0 points

Definitely a first timer build.. 1x 8 GB instead of 2x4GB, stock cooler, fire-inducing PSU. Solid temps though under load.

  • 47 months ago
  • 4 points

I only had 2 ram slots. So I made the choice to upgrade in case I ever needed to. Then again, I'd probably buy a new CPU and motherboard before that happens.

As for the stock cooler, I don't know. It seems to do what it's mean to and does it silently. I might add a stock 212 evo if I can find it in stock near me.

  • 47 months ago
  • 5 points

There isn't point of a better cooler unless you want to reduce noise.

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points
Your RAM decision is fine. People who get into the mindset that 2x4GB is better then 1x8GB, with low latency, think the performance increases a lot. When in reality it's not a lot which is about 1% increase. Take that estimate with a grain of salt. And RAM having good speed (1600MHz) with low latency will reflect upon the amount of nanoseconds.
As Philip mentioned, it is one point of reason. Intel's stockfan's have not bother me when it came to noise. There is a probability if you had some kind of stock cooler issue, yet a rare case scenario is a malfunctioning CPU cooler. I had at least two of them not work with different MOBOs but again I have not seen it occur often.
Congrats with your first build and enjoy it. +1
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Except that if the stick dies, there is no secondary stick to keep the PC running.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

How often do RAM alone, die? I have not occurred with this yet, even with very outdated RAM.

It is understandable to mention about not being able to use a PC when 1 stick of RAM is dead but I doubt this will occur right at this moment. Plus RAM is affordable to replace these days.
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

If you had two sticks and one died, you wouldn't notice it until you check your computer specs and see only half of your installed RAM. :P

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Sure you would. RAM modules don't often catastrophically fail altogether. A dying part will usually throw a bunch of random blue screens at you in farewell.

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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

My last computer used around 300 or so watts in total. So this should be fine for "now". I'll still upgrade it asap if I want to get a modern GPU or a CPU upgrade.

Thanks.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd replace it before then. it really is a junk unit. It is not doing your parts any favors at all. If it were to fail it will likely damage your components.

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