Description

At first, my grandpa had emachines (yuck!!!) desktop that come with AMD Dual Core processor, it came with 3GB DDR2 RAM and 320GB 7.2K Hard drive with SATA. He complaint about slow processing when he try to use internet, check email, MS Office 2013, and listen music. He came to my garage and he told me, "why my computer is slow???" I give his my idea, I showed him I made this list for him to see if he like it then he gave me $300 to try his first build.

I researched and figures out how to find cheapest and fast enough for his needs, I was planned to use AMD A6-5400 and MSI Grenade, but I dropped the part and went with AMD Athlon 5350 and Asus AM1M-A to give a try to see if it work well plus it should save him a power bills. Before I order the parts, I went to computer parts store and found this AMD 5350 and Asus AM1M-A were there at Providence Computer (http://providencecomputers.com/). So I decided to pick a list on paper with price, compare between online and this.

Here's list that I made: 1. AMD Athlon 5350 - 59.95 2. ASUS AM1M-A Micro - 69.95 3. Hynix 4GB DDR3-1600 - 39.95 4. DVD Drive - 12.95 5. Couger 6K with 400W PSU - 89.95

Compare to this pcpartpicker list. I know they are dirt price but at least it is not over 300 and they has them.

Bought the parts from store then went home and built it with my hand about 30 minutes to finish then manage the cable to tighten and neat with tie zippers. It was very odd that old computer hard drive I tried to move in new computer, it gave me bluescreen (it is Windows 7 Pro 64 bit), I figured it out it is because of new UEFI so I have spare Seagate 500GB 7.2K to install Windows 10 Pro on it then it work perfect and fast. All his data on old hard drive I plugged into SATA port and power while new computer is on, everything appear and I transferred whole documents, pictures, and many things on spare hard drive so the transfer speed was pretty fast about 90 MB/s to 120 MB/s.

At this time, I ordered Hyper X Fury Black 4GB DDR3-1600 it is coming soon. My grandpa was pretty impressive how fast these go with AMD 5350 and fast apps open. He is happy with new computer. He always told me that I am smart with computer stuffs. Of course.. LOL

Next build will be my grandma with same parts online instead of buy at Providence because it is dirt price so she had computer that been very old Windows 95, Intel Pentium, 64KB RAM, and 10GB IDE HDD. What's an very old these hardware! Even she used to go on internet with dial up but right now she use Verizon FiOS 50/50.

And also I will build for my parents with AMD A6-5400, MSI or ASUS Motherboard, same RAM and hard drive and different case with power supply.

For my parents and grandma's second and third build, not right now, probably few months later for them.

Comments and what do you think that is deal?

Comments

  • 47 months ago
  • 2 points

From what I am understanding you tired to move the old HDD to the new PC without reinstalling the OS. This wont normally work due to driver issues, you can normally boot in to save mode to resolve those driver issues. However with an retail install of windows it will unlicense its self once windows detects it is on a new motherboard (that is not the same kind as before). I was able to move a windows 8 install from the AM3+ platform to LGA1150 but windows had to reconfigure its self for 20min. It did unlicensed its self but since it was an OEM install I was able to call the registration 1800 number to fix it. This is not something that normally works too well, so it tossing a BSOD makes sense. It is also good you used a new HDD, that old one would have been SATA 2 (based on the other specs) and the new one is most likely SATA 3. SATA 3 is roughly double the speed of SATA 2, if you had not changed the HDD he would have said it was still slow (I have tried to run win10 on SATA 2 it is not pretty).

Any who good no nonsense build.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

koo but id have gone with just 4gb ram and an ssd

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

same

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Agreed, 8GB is overkill for that kind of system. Especially since it's single channel only.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

What about 2x 2GB DDR3-1600 better than single 4GB stick?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes I know, however, APU using some RAM, for example, I had 4GB but it using some for APU, it went down to 3.47GB RAM. Like as RAM - 4GB (3.47GB usage).

Is 2x 2GB better than single 4GB stick?

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  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

reason being, your grandpa is never going to use over 4 gigs of ram, so you could have saved a couple bucks there, and depending how much storage he actually needs i think the benefit of speed for having an ssd is definitely worth the extra bucks, not only does your computer start up faster it opens programs faster and to someone like your grandfather i think he wouldve been impressed with that

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Great job taking care of your grandpa. +1

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

You can add custom parts to your part list, you know?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I can't figure which one I try to make custom parts that was not in list.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

RAM: 5350 is single channel ram so 1x4 is enough in this case maybe add wifi, just in case next time your pops complains add an ssd to the soup. PSU: I have no idea about the quality or reliability of the cougar psu, so I'm not going to point my finger at it. If it's a bad psu you will be told shortly.

I run my 5350 htpc with 4gb of ram and it works perfectly. And for ONCE in my life, a windows upgrade (win7 to win10) actually WORKS FLAWLESSLY!

+1 for helping grandpa

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Dual channel (2x 2GB) should help with speed up a bit. I gonna research on internet to see the comparison and benchmark too.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

2 sticks of ram would help on a dual channel board, but this particular architecture only run on a single channel; the 2 slots are on the same channel.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Legitimate question, how old are you?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

"Stranger-danger!"

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

The grammar is what made me wonder the age, I knew it would sound stalker-ish. lol

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm used to people talking like this in games, maybe he's foreign?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe, but do you see what im talking about?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha I know you noticed my language I use American Sign Language and of course I'm deaf. I try my best improve my grammar.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

No worries man! I want hinting that it was bad but you were using "gamer" language and I found it amusing because I use the grammar most of the time, sorry if I came off rude.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

It is alright! My grandpa is not gamer. lol

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
lol No worries.
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

o_o

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm 23 and I was student at Rochester Institute of Technology, however, right now I go Tidewater Community College in Chesapeake, VA. My grandpa is 60s.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Windows 95, Intel Pentium, 64KB RAM, and 10GB IDE HDD

That was a pretty decent computer back in it's day!

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point
I love this build. Thank you for description. I understand where others are trying to say but goodness sake...! Your grandpa is happy and it will last him for quite some time for what he does on the PC. Just make sure to watch the PSU's condition.
8GB will help with the multi-task too, despite this processor is single channel but can still use two RAMs, I have done it with 8GB and 16GB of RAM. Though the most I tried pushing with the AMD 5350 is video recording + MSI afterburner + game. If I tried to add a 4th it just shuts down the game. For those concern with the PSU, sure it's not considered quality. An Antec VP-450w would have been good or Seasonic's S12II 430w etc.
So the point is, you covered his basic needs with a low power PC for using the internet, email, office and listening to music. Great work and thanks for sharing it. +1
  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd be wary about using a PSU that comes with a case, what case is it? But then again, with no GPU this thing will sip power.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

It is Cougar 6K that came with 400W. It's not bad look and it has switch on and off. Look pretty PSU and I'll watch to make sure it runs good and of course it sip with small wine.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

4gb of ram and a 250GB SSD would have made this build shine much more especially if its an email/web browser build

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

He favor 1TB SSHD but I did told him about SSD too. I would go with SSD but that's up to him.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

ok i know but the 4GB would have been good. 8gb is for gamers and 16 is for extreme gamers for future proofing

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I change my plan for RAM, 500GB 7.2k is enough for his needs and I just bought HyperX Fury 4GB DDR3-1600 instead of what I bought RAM from store. It look cool design and I return the Hynix stick back to store.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

i would have went with a 4gb kit with faster speed concidering its a apu build

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I used to have an emachines desktop with windows XP Shudder It had a 20gb HDD, I think like 256 megs of ram, an the crappiest old AMD processor I have ever seen.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Worse, mine had Windows 2000.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Worst than that, mine had DOS.

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

I was happy to just finally have my own PC

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

-_- just saying read the desc. For the real part list

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

What wrong with that?

  • 47 months ago
  • 1 point

Nothing just everyone was talking about the part list what wasnt in the descripsion so im saying that they need to read it