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Well after its first incarnation I felt it needed a few tweaks here and there to get the perfect optimum balance.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/vLxYcf

Basically I left the motherboard, processor and cooler in place and set about upgrading and replacing pretty much everything else.

Originally the 1st build was perfect, comfortably, well sort of running a triple slot R9 290 which even though fit perfectly, it blocked a fair bit, well pretty much all the only 120mm intake fan and sucked all the cool air for itself. Motherboard temps were slightly high, not too bad but given the small bump on CPU ratio it was running pretty warm with no cool air passing over.

Plus another issue is a fundamental flaw with case design, PSU is mounted Fan upwards directly underneath your graphics card in a case with limited air intake. So running a non reference graphics card means Power Supply is sucking in a lot of that expelled heat, fans run faster than ever and its efficency is greatly deminished due to high temps. So moral of story, only buy reference version and have all that hot air sent straight out of the back of case.

Now onto the changes....

Upgrades GRAPHICS - R9 290 gone, KFA2 3.5GB GTX 970 EX OC Black Edition in its place. RAM - Swapped out the Gskill Sniper Ram for set of Corsair vengeance Pro DDR3 2400, why I dont know as not any quicker and needs 0.4v increase CASE FAN - I have replaced Corsair SP120 PWM as front intake and gone with 120mm Gelid Fan from Gelid Tranquillo Rev 2 Cooler. PSU - Well the original was rubbish, as loud as any cheap chinese rubbish and kept getting random shutdowns. Now replaced with a lesser watt EVGA Supernova 650W G1, didnt feel the need to go any higher and next best EVGA was 750W which was little overkill for extra £25. Given this site reckons I only need 298W, how wrong that is. I have registered over 420W from the wall so far benchmarking. Though this one isnt as quiet as some make out on reviews online I have tested it fully loaded and its extremely stable and no issues with the power spikes these graphics cards can causing, which I think was the issue originally. COOLER FAN - Also changed fan on H60 Cooler, have now changed to an even slimmer fan only 13mm deep. It has pretty much the same specs regards airflow but at a lower RPM and 5dba quieter which is a bonus. SSD Replaced 250GB Samsung 840 EVO with a 2nd 850 EVO and Striped them in RAID 0 for pure speed

Likely a hypocrite but decided to take the plunge and bought a 3.5GB GTX 970, after previous comments I made stated I wouldnt due to Nvidia Fiasco but I wanted to see first hand what all the fuss was about, especially as I had just been running a 4GB R9 290 so had a lot to compare to. Honestly not seen much in scope of issues during testing but I have seen some marked improvements elsewhere.

For starters, temps are better as I have bit more airflow, I ditched the SP120 from first build as they are utter pooh. I have since took the 120mm Fan included with the Gelid Tranquillo Rev 2 CPU Coolers, it pushes a huge amount of air at 50% fan speed and compared to corsair is silent, no humming, clicking or annoying sounds anymore when running low RPM's.

So after all that, have got this machine running at 4.6Ghz at 1.24v with temps under XTU load at maximum 69 degrees. Have managed 4.7Ghz at 1.27v stable but temps went to 80 Degrees as needed fair increase in voltage, with little more can easily get 4.8 at 1.3v though heat is my major issue then as impossible for H60 to keep that processor cool as its too small. Graphics is fantastic for additional overclocking, currently running 7800 on Memory and 1552 on Graphics core, temps get upto about 70/71 degrees but fan speeds up to about 80% then so gets little bit noisy when benchmarking, during games not so much but its quiet under load anyhow. Pretty much manages to keep maximum boost constantly.

So after all that stripping out and rebuilding with upgraded parts here are few results from benchmarks taken before and after upgrades. Before scores were based on CPU runing at 4.2Ghz and running alongside an Powercolor R9 290 PCS+ OC but now can eaisly run 4.6Ghz with no heat issues whatsoever.

Original PC 3D Mark Results Firestrike - 9701 Sky Diver - 23316 Cloud Gate - 19976 Ice Storm - 148119

Unigine Heaven 1080p High - FPS 109.1 Score 2749

Intel XTU Benchmark - Score 842

Upgraded PC 3D Mark Results Firestrike - 10785 Sky Diver - 26567 Cloud Gate - 23299 Ice Storm - 204708

Unigine Heaven 1080p High (default) - FPS 129.7 Score 3268 1080p Ultra 8xAA Extreme - FPS 60.6 Score 1526

Unigine Valley 1080p Extreme HD 8xAAFPS 62.7 Score 2624

Intel XTU - 896 Points

And as its seems to be 20% faster I have also replaced monitor too, may aswell take advantage.

Total Build cost as per PC Parts Picker shows £1455 but at end of all this including returning some parts and selling replaced parts total build cost came to £1335

Comments

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

I just got myself one of these cases. They are very neat and nice looking. I'm planning on powder-coating the frame soon.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 for one of my favorite cases! You really can't go wrong with it. Hope you enjoy your new build!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. Its been a right headache but think I finally got to a sweet spot with regards complete setup.

Currently trying to do a 92mm Custom loop but beginning to take its toll.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Well good luck to you, would love to see it when it's done!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

so would I lol

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Am I the only one that think this case is overated? It is pretty, and the built quality is great with the aluminium body and the tempered glass, but is it worth it? For a mini itx build, I find it stupidly expensive. Nice build, tough.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

This case is $120 on newegg right now. Not a bad price at all for the quality of this case. +1

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Why did you get ddr3-2400 ram? Your CPU has a max speed of 1600.

look at the Memory Specifications section of http://ark.intel.com/products/80811/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

Other then that, great .

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Why the fast Ram, as it was a £8 more than the DDR3 1600.

Link is irrelevant. If so why would any manufacturer develop fast ram.

The CPU does have memory controller built in and rated at the speeds stated in Intel Spec Sheets but when you pair Ram with a motherboard capable of overclocking memory you can run any speed compatible with the motherboard and ram.

In this case a Z based board can run ram at speeds of upto DDR 3000 and beyond in some cases. So at most 1600 in those boards. The speeds your ram can run are dependant on the rated speeds set by manufacturer, obviously majority can go lot faster but that s down to end user and a lot of hard work to get them stable.

Though If you paired this processor and that ram with on a motherboard with either H81, B85 or H97 chipset then the ram would only run at the stated speeds according to Intel as those chipsets do not have capability to overclock memory.

Only Z based Chipsets have the capability to run ram at speeds faster than the stated speeds that Intel give you for their processors.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

OK, thanks.

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

U must have gotten a bad one because my i5 4690k is oc'd to 4.7ghz w/ h60 :D under load max temp is 67 degrees and lowest 4 degrees also at idle 14 degrees.

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Not sure where you get bad one, if you read my builds you will know this processor under a Rajintek Triton 240mm Cooler pushed 5Ghz.

In this case, with zero airflow due to design did fairly well, bear in mind this cooler is using Rajintek Aeolus 13mm Slim fan, so I would expect you to get better temps in any case with this cooler using standard 120mm x 25mm fan.

Laos with regards overclocking, its not just processor, motherboard plays more important part, power phases on this board weren't the best only had 6 phase but on a Z97 Extreme6 with 12 power phase and better power delivery pushes past 5GHz easily at 1.3v. So remember its the case, airflow, motherboard etc.

Also impossible to have your processor running temperatures below the ambient air outside your case, unless you are running liquid nitrogen you cannot possible have a chip running at 14 degrees unless you keep your PC in a fridge

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes in a freezer XD I did a build with nitrogen in it and touched the pipe and burned my hand oops And for the bad cpu (and most pc components) there can be a bad batch and each chip oc's different aka cpu lottery.

  • 48 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome build! Where did you get those black and red psu cables.

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  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Cheers mate, plus its never too late for a positive comment :)

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