Description

First build at 14. Went pretty well up until I realized all games crashed on me(including sometimes Roblox). Took me about half a year to figure out that 850watt psu was too small. Replaced with 1200 watt metioned in part list and I know have my very own working PC!

Regrets:

Would like a different case capable of better cable management as well as possibly a 1440p monitor.

Part Reviews

CPU

Solid Cpu. It's last gen tech now, and I wouldn't necessarily recommend buying it instead of a 3600X unless you really want the extra cores, but it works for me.

Motherboard

Good Motherboard, and if not for customer service I would give it five stars. Msi on their website said that I should remove all accessories before sending it in, and apparently this included the cpu fan mounting brackets and m.2 shield. I am a first time builder and at that time I didn't even know it was possible to take off the m.2 bracket! Really Msi? Maybe put a link somewhere for first timers explaining what you mean by accessories?

Memory

Great ram. Looks good, compatible with my mobo, and it comes in a variety of customizations. Only regret I have is that I got a single stick of 16 gigs forgoing the ability to run dual channel because I thought that I might want to upgrade to 64 gigs someday. Really former self? I get that you were a noob, but what were you thinking?

Storage

Sure it's not PCIE 4.0 but it's fast enough. I mean, who's gonna argue with read and write speeds of 3 gigs a second? Boots windows in about 15-20 seconds, and I think most of that time might be the POST which the drive can't help with any way.

Storage

Solid HDD for the price. Not the fastest mind you, but it sure has a lot of storage capacity. Would be nice for Seagate to make a nicer looking drive monitor like Samsung has though.

Video Card

So I have had my ups and downs with this card. I love it's performance(especially since I got it for like 350), but it draws a ridiculous amount of power. ASUS says that the card alone requires 700 watts! Yikes! This is from the pre 7nm Radeon era, though, so I really can't complain all that much about the power this card eats since it's an AMD card that can compete nicely with NVIDIA 1080s. The thing that bumped my review from 3 to 4 stars, though, is Asus's stellar customer support.

Case

Ok this case is meh. Just meh. Can't see through the side of it, not many options for cable management, no dedicated psu shroud, non modular hdd and ssd bays, basically it's a basic case. For the price it's not too bad, but I wish that I had decided to either forgo the 5.2 inch bays and get something like the Corsair Spec-04 or upgraded to an NZXT 700i or 500i. It's not really all that bad a case, but it just doesn't seem to fit my build, preventing me from showing off all my fancyshmanzy rgb components.

Power Supply

Not a bad psu, and really quite good for the price. I've only had it for about a week so I can't speak on it's ability to hold up long term, but it comes with a 5 year warranty and is made by a respectable brand. Only complaint is lack of a trip/cut off/power switch on the back to protect it from surges. I've plugged it into a power strip, though, so alls well.

Operating System

It's Windows. Expensive Windows. Workable Windows. Computer Windows. Never able to get updates right Windows. Is there really anything else to say?

Monitor

This is not a bad entry level monitor. It has a nice 144hz refresh rate, freesync, and a host of other nice features to set it up as a respectable choice for any aspiring gamer. Only problem is it's kinda pricey for a 1080p monitor.

Keyboard

Amazing keyboard! This thing is expensive sure, but downright amazing. Theres no picture on the website but here's a link to Corsair's.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/RGB-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboards/k95-rgb-platinum-config-na/p/CH-9127114-NA

Mouse

A solid mouse. I like the sniper button, even though I hardly ever use it, and the quality sensor. The thumb buttons aren't the best on the market, but the build and feel of the mouse is good enough for me. The Razer Death Ader Elite is probably better for a fps than this, but this mouse has some features that the Razer mouse doesn't, like the ability to customize the weight of it.

Headphones

Great headset! Has amazing battery life(I'd estimate this thing at around 3 hours or more), and a bunch of nice features. Only problem is sometimes my ears will get a tad bit uncomfortable in there.

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Comments

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ummm....850w is usually overkill in most cases...so 1200w is beyond overkill. lol I highly doubt that was the problem.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I can't imagine why on earth you would need a 1200 W power supply. There's no way that that was the problem. 850 W is plenty for running a VEGA 64 and a Ryzen 2700X.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

According to Asus, their Vega 64 requires a full 700 watts on its own. This seems kinda crazy, but there is also a close to 20% over voltage on the card, pushing the total tdp over 850. I'd estimate it at around 900 to 1000, but I went with the 1200 just to be on the safe side. This was not my first attempt to fix my pc, which is why I only fixed it half a year after building it, and I have rmaed my mobo, cpu, gpu, and old psu. Furthermore, I have bought new ram, my old ram was not on my mobo compatibility list which I learned existed after building, and new storage, the 970 evo. One of the most confusing things for me is that, even after manualy removing the factory overclock with MSI Afterburner, the pc would still crash about an hour and a half into game play. With the overclock engaged I would at most get to play one or two crucible matches in destiny, and would usually get a crash within seconds of spawning. Since getting the new psu about a week ago I have only had one crash and it was some bug crash that at least gave me a bsod (before I didn't even get one of those) and has only happened once. Possibly the worst part of the whole thing is that I know actually kinda think of the bsod as my friend.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

BTW any ideas for how I can improve cable management? I think I may need a new case and am wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions. I have a dream of fully liquid cooling my system at some point, and am tempted to get a full tower so I can easily do this, but my pc is already big enough, and I'm not sure I want to shell out another 900-1000 dollars just for geek points.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You'll definitely want a different case if you want to have nice cable management. I have the same case, and it's not very convenient for cables at all. Also, I'm not sure what to tell you regarding the power supply. What I've always heard is that a power supply typically operates at it's maximum efficiency somewhere between 50% and 60% of it's rated capacity. If we assume that a 20% over voltage on the Vega 64 brings your systems total wattage to 591, then to operate at 55% capacity, you would need a 1074 W PSU, so I can see why you would want to go with the 1200 W psu. I must say though, that I'm using a VERY similar set of components (Ryzen 1500x and Vega 64), and I am running at 66% of my PSU's capacity, and I've had no problems with it whatsoever. I'm using a 700 W semi-modular bronze PSU that costs about $55. If you were to run your system at this capacity percentage, you would only need about a 900 W supply. Then again, 900 W is kind of an odd wattage when it comes to commercial availability. At that point, the price difference is usually small enough that you might as well go for broke and get the 1000 W or 1200 W supply anyway. An 850 W supply would put you at 69.5% capacity. I'm sure that you would in all likelihood be just fine at that percentage.......but that's a matter of comfort, and if you're going to spend $2,000 on a system, then I guess you might as well invest in the extra protection.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Well all I know is

Before PSU Replacement: Repeated kernel power system failures

After PSU Replacement: No system failures.

What Vega 64 do you have? I think my ones just uniquely weird in that it pulls so much power. The 700 watts is just what asus told me though. I'll see if I can get some data on what it pulls in gameplay next time I play and post it. The weird thing is reviews put the draw (or maybe tdp) at around 245-300 and asus says 700. Its really weird but ive replaced/rmaed every single component in my system except the case so it must have been that the PSU needed to be bigger.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-21275-03-20g/p/N82E16814202326?Item=N82E16814202326&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-

It's a "SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64". It's got a TDP of 295 W, and the newegg page suggests that you use a 750 W power supply with it. I'm sure that that suggestion is made with the assumption that you'll be using a CPU with something like 90 W, and includes the much smaller amounts of power draw for the other component, rather than meaning that you need 750 W just for the GPU alone. As far as the system failure goes, hell if I know. A smaller power supply ought to have been A-Okay, but as long as it works, it works. If nothing else, you've got a super high quality PSU that you can use for years and years to come. Hell, you could run multiple GPU's simultaneously with a PSU like that, if you ever felt like upgrading to a super battlestation of a PC.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I think its just my gou is ridiculous. I mean it works now anyway so I'm happy. Do you now if my psu could suport a complete custom water cooling setup? I'm thinking about doing a desk build and I want to water cool my pc in it for maximum nerd points/performance. It would be really annoying if my pc failed on me due to my psu being too small so I just want to check.