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Originator

by Eltech

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Date Published

Dec. 26, 2015

Date Built

Dec. 11, 2015

CPU Clock Rate

3.8 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

26.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

58.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

4.5 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

63.0° C

Description

  • Built for my young nephew. This build alone cost only $445.81, including the straps, fan splitter and paint. A huge grand thanks goes to my parents and grandma who helped pitch in for what he needed for school and the peripherals. My parents bought the printer and monitor. My grandma bought the keyboard, mouse-pad and unexpectedly the Velcro straps that I was supposed to buy myself. I thank my loving family since they wanted to help support his first custom computer.

  • Most of the parts were bought at August between September. I only covered the parts, OS, painted the front mesh red because there was no red originally on this case. Plus he likes the color red. Also that I couldn't spend a lot on a full red case, so this was my solution to give some red. Though the date basically reflects upon when the last time I touched inside this PC.

  • The request of his mother was to make sure it was not expensive for his first build. And that it could play two of his games: Minecraft and Civilization V. More important is he needs a computer to type up his papers for homework assignments, and print them out.

  • The final result of the build is photo #s 1-31. Photo #s 32-36 was his 2016 Christmas Present. Photo #s 37-140 is the building process and changing parts.

Next up is the two cents:

CPU

Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor – Overclocked @ 3.8GHz

  • This processor was bought for $49 even from Amazon. Came with everything despite I saw the description order mentioning the processor had 4 imperfection markings. The 4 imperfect markings were true but I’m happy to replace the Celeron G1840 for my nephew. Not saying the Celeron is not great but it did lag on games unless you are OK with that. To myself this would be a disservice if I did this to my nephew.

  • Obviously it is a dual core but do not underestimate this processor. If you can snatch this $50 or under then you won’t regret it. It’s great for starter builds and can game Minecraft with this processor for certain. I overclocked successfully to really 3.9GHz but could not get a stable overclock at 4.0~4.2GHz. I took it back to 3.8GHz, due to temps remained under 60° C for over 48 hours when gamed and tested Valley Benchmark.


CPU Cooler

Rosewill RCX-Z300 CPU Cooler

  • It runs quiet, even when it’s cranked to 2,000rpm so it’s impressive on how quiet it is. Far more quiet then Rosewill's RCX-Z90-CP. It also has a cooper ring, which is what I need for overclocking this amazing Pentium. The stockfan that comes with the G3258 also has a cooper ring so it’s not a must to replace the stockfan. The reason I did it was because of the fan being red and affordable. If you are looking for a reasonable price, quiet CPU fan then this fan may be for you.

Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-B85N PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard

  • I had a fun time with this MOBO, a lot. I had to replace the original first MOBO because of my klutzy force of smashing the BIOS chips, literally! I was using a flathead when I couldn’t uninstall an improper install of the GPU since it was such a tight gap. Learn from my mistake, make sure to use your pinky finger to push down the PCIE’s latch or use your other hand to protect the MOBO if have to use something to push down the PCIE’s latch.

  • In working terms, it’s a very basic Gigabyte BIOS. Easy to navigate and adjust specific settings when needed. The WiFi works great, an impressive signal when over 80 feet away from a WiFi router. Also the WiFi is magnetize so can adjust the antenna for a better placement and signal. The most interesting thing about this MOBO, which I had no clue about it, is the orange LED pulsating.

  • I know the RAM slots and LED is only orange but wanted a decent MOBO with good WiFi already in it. It was affordable at the time and definitely not flimsy. If do not care for the pulsating LED, one could always shut it off or turn off the pulsate effect from the BIOS’ peripherals settings.


Memory

Kingston Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

  • No overclocking required, and since it looks savage it does the job well. Now keep in mind the MHz is capped at 1400 because of the CPU, not just the MOBO since it supports 1333 and 1600MHz of RAM. I think one needs a Z97 MOBO to break this limitation of course. The option to add another 1x8GB of the same RAM is available when needed.

SSD

A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

  • A great budget friendly SSD, boots 3 seconds and takes about 7~9 seconds to load Windows. It’s a MLC type which is good for longer endurance when transferring data or erasing. Plenty remaining, last I saw it around 80GB. The SSD Tool was installed for checking its health status and trim when needed. I would recommend this SSD if on a very tight budget.

Hard Drive

Seagate 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

  • Got this for very cheap on Amazon's warehouse deals so it was used but it was easy to remove the previous OS. It gives plenty of GB for the games. It works great and will provide enough for now since it has two Steam games and some additional games that is appropriate for his age.

GPU

MSI Radeon R7 250X 1GB Video Card

  • MSI Gaming X, GTX 1050 2GB @ December 2016: I given this as a Christmas present. No idea what it looks like in person nor how it performs with his games, but it's definitely an upgrade with his current uses. I was able to compare the box size with my GTX 1070. Paid about $130 for it.

  • This part was bought early of Summer, 2015. A good starter GPU for games and keep in mind that the R7 250X is its counterpart, the HD 7770. Tested quite a bit of games, especially Minecraft which was very important. Can get Medium between High graphics and will sustain in 55~61 FPS in Minecraft, lowest it dropped was 43 FPS. When playing games for about 4 hours, the GPU will reach about 45~63° C the most.

  • The simulators make it run hotter versus Minecraft. It’s not spectacular like a mid-high end GPU but it holds its own weight with surprising results. It used to reach over 80° C when testing with Valley Benchmark but then again this is partially due with the case as well. I did change out the thermal compound pad with some Arctic Silver 5 and it ironically helped some despite it has not broken down much yet. When tested again in Valley Benchmark it is now settled in the 70~75° C instead of 83~85° C which is an improvement.

  • And yes AMD’s Crimson driver has been installed too. Though had no real issues with the Catalysts driver but one game, Angry Birds, has a minor rendering issue with the blue birds. It has some kind of graphic fusion with the sling and the blue bird until the sling decides to go behind the bird, eventually.

  • NOTE: This GPU cannot run dual-graphics with any APU. Again, all versions of the R7 2##X cannot run dual-graphics with an APU; however, dual-graphics can work with Radeon's HD 6000 series, HD 7000 series, the R7 240, and the R7 250.


Case

Rosewill Neutron Mini ITX Desktop Case

  • An easy case to work in but weighs about twenty pounds and is taller then the average ITX. Cable management wise, a bit tricky but possible to work with. Cannot say I was super great with the velcro straps and some zip-ties but it did help a lot. It’s very easy to pull off the front mesh and filters inside the case when need to clean them. The front mesh and the PSU filter is magnetize while the top filter is secured by clips.

  • It has some odd placements with some of the external ports, such as the USB. Plenty of USBs at the side but I wonder why it was placed there. Maybe I am used to having USB ports near the power and reset button but at least they gave two 3.0 USB and 2.0 USB ports at the side.

  • One thing I really did not like about this case, is how the GPU is setup in a tight space with no breathable holes on the side. It lacks expelling heat majorly for the GPU. An idea is to drill some holes on the window’s case. However, the rest of the fans were good enough though they can get loud if cranked around 1,200rpm.

  • The back case fan was connected by Molex and switched to 5v instead of the default 12v to make it quiet. Thank you snorkel12068 for your help. I owe you a big thank you and credit goes to you for the solution of my dilemma with only having 1 system fan connector on the MOBO.


PSU

XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

  • Got a rebate from this and I wanted a good PSU for his computer. Especially a decent amount of wattage and plenty connectors since it gives an opportunity to upgrade the processor, GPU and allows to add in additional RAM and a Hard Drive or SSD in the future. Now it is obvious that it’s a No Modular so it can be tricky to cable manage, depending upon the case. So far it worked well, fan spinning was not loud. Happy to get this PSU and would recommend it for gaming intentions.

Optical Drive

LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer

  • I got this optical on sale and it works great for the basic CD/DVD burn and reading discs. He can watch DVD movies since VLC Media player is there for this. Painted the front with a flat black paint.

Monitor

Sceptre E205W-1600 60Hz 20.0" Monitor

  • Great price and was on sale at the time. The monitor is a great starting one and I know it is a 900p but it’s a 20” and does the job well. Been impressed with it and it can adjust the angle, up or downward if need be. Three type of connectors, VGA, HDMI and DVI. Keep in mind that this monitor does not include an audio cable so if you use the VGA that comes with it, you be better off with an HDMI or have to buy or find a spare audio cable. Currently it's connected as HDMI and the sound works great for a starting build.

Keyboard

Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard

  • It’s basic but a great keyboard. Feels comfortable and it’s a good standard keyboard. Has retractable stands underneath if need to raise it. Keys are not too audible and responses great with each key pressed. I would recommend this but if you can find a good deal online or a clearance then that would be the best.

Mouse

Cobra cobra II Wired Optical Mouse

  • A basic gaming mouse but has a cool red LED glow. It responds easily, navigates well when moving it across a basic mousepad. May not be the fanciest mouse but with this price it should please my nephew with joy. The red LED will remain ON when the computer is powered down. Unless the PSU is turned off or the power goes out then it takes about five seconds for it to go completely off.

Personal Notes

  • I swapped out a bit of parts, the G1840, Hyper X Kingston of 4GB 1600MHz, EVGA 430w PSU, GT 720 1GB GPU, and the Seagate 250GB 7200rpm Hard Drive. I had to replace the MOBO for my horrible klutzy moment of smacking the BIOS chips with a flathead when I was trying to uninstall the GPU. These were gradually changed from September between November. And I was hoping for good deals to occur for much better parts before I shipped his PC out which I did.
  • Despite the changes of hardware that was done to this build, it was a great experience. I truly enjoyed testing bare minimum hardware to the famous Pentium. Also the joy of painting to adjust its appearance to give a black and red color scheme. Even though I couldn’t do that with the MOBO, it turned out pretty well I think. More important it’s a great starter build for his school and current gaming purposes, especially for Minecraft. Knowing he loves this PC was worth building it. And I am very grateful for the help of my family’s contributions for this build.

  • His mom will help on what to upgrade parts when the time comes. Yes I did receive a phone call on Christmas, they were very thankful and my nephew was extremely shocked and happy about having his very own computer. It makes me thankful and happy to know this.

  • Thank you for reading this description. Please leave any comments, questions and constructive criticism.

Comments Sorted by:

Glistening 1 Build 6 points 40 months ago

Nice formatting in the desc :o

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

Thank you very much. :)

floridaboz 4 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

I think you might of read the comments in the past about people not uploading enough pictures.

Anyway, nice direction on the build and documentation.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

I think I have too many pictures, even though personally I do not mind it... I am addicted of taking a lot of photos for step by step records and trying to get crystal clear, photos. Sometimes I mess up there with some photos and forget to delete them. Thank you floridaboz for your comments. I truly appreciate your support!

biggles5107 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Definitely not a bad thing. You have both quality AND quantity, whereas I have neither :P

When I update my build, I might have to borrow my roommate's Pentax because that Moto G just ain't cuttin' it.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Thank you. I hope it's not a bad thing. Sometimes I'm guilty of staying up until 2~4am for just taking a lot of good photos. Aw... sorry to hear about your Moto G. I'm certain your roommate will let you borrow their Pentax.

Gooberdad 10 Builds 3 points 37 months ago

Not my favorite of your builds, but still a nice build. +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 37 months ago
No worries but still thank you.
Gooberdad 10 Builds 3 points 37 months ago

Just lots to choose from.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

Yes, of course. ;)

code69 1 Build 2 points 40 months ago

Looks awesome! Loving the RED LED.

You left him room to grow, if and when it's time comes. Great work - impressive.

Probably could've of achieved a better speed/value if you had went AMD APU (A10).

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Aw, thank you very much. I love it too!

Yes, that was the idea. Give him room to grow with it when he gets older and needs to upgrade or add more parts. Thank you, thank you. I truly appreciate your comments.

Probably could've of achieved a better speed/value if you had went AMD APU (A10).

Maybe but I did not want to go that route. Yet it's understandable to avoid extra spending and get a good quad core with integrated graphics. Yet this Pentium and GPU is a good starting point for his current needs. I know it can change in due time.
biggles5107 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Cable management game ON POINT. +1

I really like that underglow under the mobo. I haven't seen anything like that before.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Wow, I feel honored for such a compliment. I truly appreciate your comments.

Yes, I was utterly caught off guard with the pulsating orange glow effect when I did POST. It looks pretty cool I think when its turned on every time. :)

fn230 9 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Always so good with the documentation on these builds. It's a nice budget machine with good upgrade options. +1

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Thank you for your lovely comments. I truly appreciate them very much. It means a lot. :)

Fozbi 2 points 40 months ago

you make even the simplest build look amazing! +1 GG

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Aw... you are so kind with such a compliment. Thank you, that means a lot to me. :)

Fozbi 1 point 40 months ago

np bro

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 3 points 40 months ago

No bro here. :)

Fozbi 2 points 40 months ago

your a girl......

nice to see a girl whos a pc enthusiast lol :)

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 3 points 40 months ago
Yes, I'm certainly am. Though age wise, a woman for quite some time. I'm addicted of building, fixing, upgrading/tweaking computers. I keep on learning and never stop learning. Thank you. :)
JafferAli 1 Build 2 points 40 months ago

Just brings to show that a cool computer doesn't have to be an expensive one

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Aw, thank you for your kind words. I truly appreciate them. :)

FwionnTECH 2 points 40 months ago

Hello eltech I am in love with this build and I love everything about it. I would like to build this computer but I have more money than what you have spent.i do not need any periphials, or a monitor. As a first time builder could you advice me of any updates on this build if there are any... Much love from a big fan from ireland

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Hello Fwionn, why thank you so much. I am very appreciate of your support and kind compliments! It means a lot to me.

And no worries. What is your budget? And what is your purpose for your intended future PC? Do you have an OS already too or does it need to be included? I have a lot ideas for most builds but I just want to make sure I don't lead you to the wrong direction for your type of build. Much love in return from the United States. :)

FwionnTECH 1 point 40 months ago

Hi Eltech I have a budget of 200£. I already have a HDD , OS , PSU (450w), and a zotac 750ti. I am going for a budget gaming pc.

EVA-DELTA 2 Builds 2 points 39 months ago

Wow, what you did on that budget is astounding! Very tidy build with a good aesthetic. You obviously cared a lot about this project and I can relate. I always do my absolute best work when I'm doing something for someone else. Cheers to you sir! Hope you don't mind if I use your description formatting as a template for my own, which is incredibly lacking at the moment.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 39 months ago
Aw, thank you so much. I tried my best to keep it clean and covered the needs and some wants for the build. The hardest part was probably making sure the cables were secured enough when it got shipped to the other side of the States. I mean not outside of country travel-wise but it was going to be moving around like a ball for certain and packages get banged around a lot when it comes to Christmas it seems. I appreciate your support and lovely comments.
No sir here but no worries. :)
And of course, go ahead and take the description as a template. If you have questions on how I did it, I'll explain it better. Harder to show it specifically on here when it automatically formats.
gorkti200 3 Builds 2 points 38 months ago

If there were anything wrong with your build posts (there isn't), it would be having too many awesome photos.

+1. Your builds rock. Your write-ups rock. Your photos rock.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 38 months ago
Wow. I feel like I was given a high compliment which I did. Thank you very much. That genuinely means a lot. Thank you for checking out my builds and the support! You rock too. :)
Synthase 1 Build 2 points 36 months ago

A wonderful and honest build I must say. Good job m8.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 36 months ago
Aw, thank you so much! I appreciate the high compliment and the support! Thank you. :)
aventador18 1 Build 2 points 33 months ago

+1 for taking 135 quality pictures and actually providing a very good and thorough description of all the parts

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 33 months ago
Thank you very much! I am glad to know that it was good. I truly appreciate your support and compliments. :)
znd125 4 Builds 2 points 29 months ago

This deserves a lot more than 35 up votes. Nice build and great photos.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

Aw... thank you. Actually, I never knew about this until January 2016. For some reason it has a lot of likes from Instagram. Again, I truly appreciate your support and kind words. :)

StephenSmithTech101 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

Ah the g3258 an amazing Overclocker, also nice choice on video card. Very nice looks great! Another great build.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 17 months ago

I agree about the G3258. At the time, it was a very tight budget, but Thanks for your lovely comments and seeing this build. It's been a long time since I had a comment in here. :)

StephenSmithTech101 1 Build 2 points 17 months ago

Welcome anytime.

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

I'm actually surprised you were only able to get 3.9 stable on a g3258. must have gotten a bad silicon lotto ticket :P

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Also there is a ton of room in that case for an ITX! thats awesome!

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Indeed there is. I just hope the cables look OK since I could not hide them thick cables.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

For some reason when I tried to go 4.0~4.2GHz, Windows would freeze up often. Though I heard rumors that some cannot increase .1GHz, though not true for this build so who knows. I wish I could had a stable 4.0 or more but I cannot complain since it went to 3.9GHz without freezing up. Oh wells, better then no OC at all.

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Quick question, what is your voltage at if you know?

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago

Well I cannot recall a lot since my memory is slow until I am no longer sick, plus it's not with me. My happy nephew has the computer. From the CPU voltage at the time, only allowed 1.20v. I never could go above it since it caps there or switches back to AUTO with this MOBO.

I think there was another possible way to try one more thing but I ran out of time. Since I had Finals around the corner, literally. I had to pack up everything and ship it on December 12th. Or it would not have made it before Christmas.

ThugginMcMuffin 3 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

aah ok. you did great with that overclock then. 3.9 with 1.20v is great! if you would have had a H97 or Z97 motherboard, more time, and more voltage than you probably could have gotten your chip up to 4.6 Ghz easy.

Eltech submitter 20 Builds 1 point 40 months ago
Ok, good to know. Thanks! And right, if I had a different MOBO that allowed more voltage, I'd have less issues for certain.
There is also this video I watched a few times and was going try his suggestions but like I said, I ran out of time. I was time crunched with semester and work. Anyways, this guy mentions about his GA-B85M MOBO would clock the G3258 around 4.0~4.2GHz but maybe for others could only be 3.8~4.0GHz. His GA-B85M, CPU voltage would cap at 1.20v too. Gigabyte B85M / Pentium G3258 Uncut Overclock Tutorial For Beginners.
I wish I was able to give it a shot but who knows. I still have another MOBO of this GA-B85N but that is the one I smacked with my flathead. Maybe I could try again with that with another G3258 and play with it in the future. Just need the CPU is all, have plenty of left over parts to try playing overclock with it. Probably what I'll end up doing with the spare MOBO once more just for curiosity if I can reach 4.0 or more with the G3258 on a GA-B85N.
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Eltech submitter 20 Builds 2 points 40 months ago

Excessive you say...

* stares at the rest of her photos and smirks *

Thank you so much Geekazoid, truly honored to have your lovely compliments and jokes. Yes, I asked my nephew few months ago on what was his favorite color. I was told "red" was his favorite, how ironic I thought since it's also my favorite too. He was having a hard time to believe that it was his computer on Christmas day, since he kept thinking it was someone's PC. Until his mom clarified that it was truly his very own computer to keep and take care of.
He was pretty much shocked and then very happy. It meant the world to me more to know he was happy about it even though despite I was utterly sick, and deaf on the phone. lol He was worth it to me because he is family.
And thank you for the photographer compliment. I'm really an amateur but I hope to one day take a class into photography. The reason I had to do hand shots was cause I couldn't get a clear, up close shot with certain angles when I was changing the Molex from a 12v to a 5v. Well, I tried to give an idea where the wires are, using red electrical tape to remember where the wire goes for the 5v when connected to the PSU's Molex 4-pin. Making it possible to do this with the default back case fan. I owe snorkel12068 a huge thanks for his suggestions since I only had 1 system fan connector, he too had the case which I better put credit on my description. Bad me~ since I didn't forget his help, been so very ill for a while so the mind was fuzzy a lot.

Thank you Geekazoid. I truly appreciate your support and comments. It means a lot to me. :)

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