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Out with the Old; In with the New

by daes0707

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I would highly recommend Tom's Hardware forums, Paul's Hardware YouTube channel, and of course the PC Part Picker community, all were great resources which I made reference to.... a lot!

I would have really liked a SFF case, specifically a Dan Case, but simply couldn't afford it. Given this was my first build I also wanted things to be relatively straight forward so thought a micro build would be the safest option. Have to say I cant believe the size of some fo the micro ATX cases, they are huge, and not the bonniest. The Core 1100 is a boring box but it reminds me of my outgoing HP Pavillion Pentium 4!

User Benchmarks scores were good apart from the Gaming aspect - but that was expected as the 1070 is used as the benchmark. The Cinebench results were fine.

I also ran the Prime95 stress test which has flagged some issues, which I dont quite understand, especially as everything is brand new and hasn't been touched in terms of OC. I intend to do some more Prime95 testing as well as the Memtest 86 to see if I can get to the bottom of it.

Update: Seems I had the wrong settings in the UEFI for the memory. Whilst I had changed the frequency, I left another field as "Auto" and this should have been changed to D.O.C.P (which is ASUS's version of XMP but for AMD chips...I think?). Anyway, re-ran Prime 95 for a few hours last night and it was error free. I'm happy with that! :)

Re-ran "CPU UserBenchmark" and got the following: CPU - 64th percentile GPU - 61st percentile NVMe - 69th percentile Memory - 95th percentile

"Cinebench R15" OpenGL - 107fps CPU - 1152cb

Part Reviews

CPU

AMD seem to be a little bit more on the consumers side in terms of committing to the socket type for next few years, the same cant be said for Intel hence opting for the red team.

Motherboard

Compared to the mobo in my old HP Pavillion, this board seems pretty limited; that said it's fine for my needs.

Storage

Wanted fast boot with NVMe storage for Windows and Mint.

Works brilliantly!

Case

Boring, but it's what a micro case should be, small(ish).

Still think they could cut some of the space out and reduce the size further,

I really like it.

I used an adapter to convert one of the 5" drives down to a 2.5" drive so I didn't need to use the vertical storage mount. I used the remaining space to try and tidy up some for the cables.

I put a 92mm Be quiet! at the rear and a 120mm at the front. Both were PWM. I used an Aska Y-splitter from the single fan header on the mobo. So far so good.

Operating System

I've actually been pleasantly surprised!

Comments Sorted by:

_Unphazed_ 2 Builds 1 point 11 months ago

Looks like a nice first build! If and when you decided to move to a smaller chassis, don't be afraid - it's really quite similar to that of matx, just with a little less room. If you keep a lot of components the same (ie stock and aircooled) building in something like a Dan Case or Ncase is a breeze. Enjoy the new system!

daes0707 submitter 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

Thank you! I guess its just a question of confidence. I was worried I was going to press the on button and sparks would start appearing!

the-bunker 1 point 11 months ago

Many thanks for posting these details - I am looking for a compact build on a budget & this has been very helpful !

daes0707 submitter 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

No worries. I made so much use of the information others have contributed on this forum I thought it only right that I should put something back. Best of luck! D

Infernitron 0 points 11 months ago

too bad you got that mobo... it really sucks. other than that, great build!

daes0707 submitter 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

Thanks for the comment. Do you have experience with it? Would be interested to know what you would have gone with and why? Cheers, D

KevinMoondust 11 Builds 2 points 11 months ago

It mostly depends on whether you will overclock the CPU or not. Being a Ryzen chip, 99% of builders and PC users, enthusiasts and gamers expect you to overclock because of the performance gains you get the closer you touch the 4Ghz mark.

Being said, most B350 boards are indeed a bit on the suckish side because their Power Delivery circuits were underdesigned, but you'll only notice that when overclocking or at extremely high loads. The main culprits are ASUS and GIGABYTE, and it's also on a per-motherboard basis.

As the commenter suggested, the ASRock B350M Pro4 is by far the best M-ATX B350 board, because of its stable and sensible Power Delivery design, the ease of overclock, and good price-quality ratio. It does what most other boards don't do: skimps on the flair and spends on performance and stability. A secondary recommendation from ASRock would be the B350M-HDV. And if you'll ever go the Mini ITX route, the AB350-ITX Gaming-ac is by far the best choice.

I will add as another recommendation the Bazooka/Mortar series of B350 boards by MSI as well as the PRO GAMING by them as well. Only avoid the VH series because it's too basic.

daes0707 submitter 1 Build 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks Kevin. Looks like a poor choice on my part. I'll keep it mind for the next time. In terms of the build, the mobo one was one of the cheaper components so may be something I can change out in a few years without feeling too gutted. Until then I'm sure the Asus and I will be able to get along! :) (fingers crossed!)

MadMan97 1 point 8 months ago

Shame that those MSI boards you mentioned were the ones that really skimped on VRM componentry quality and their heatsinks. I had B350M Bazooka for a while, and with mild 3.9Ghz 1.33V OC on R5 1400 got the VRM to toasting hot 110C on gaming load (Asus is a lot better, but cooling is lacking a bit but not as bad as MSI), and the Asrock Pro4 is decent for what it is, but is actually only a 3+2 (with extra bits, but no real advantage) VRM design compared to other boards being 4+2

Infernitron 1 point 11 months ago

I hear it has no heatsinks on the vrms. I would have gone with the asrock ab350m pro4 since you asked.

daes0707 submitter 1 Build 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the advice and recommendation. D