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Worst Decision in my life

by saphyron

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87 Comments

Details

Date Published

Oct. 15, 2017

Date Built

Feb. 24, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

4.2 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

40.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

75.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.594 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

8.008 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

26.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

52.0° C

Description

Home gaming PC. Sadly like all other I7-7700K, it suffers greatly from overheating even with my corsair h100I v2.

So I will not recommend this CPU to anyone.

If the community know of a de-lidder in Denmark that can gurantee my CPU That would immensely help me. Otherwise I don't have the money to replace it and have to live with a 7700K I can't overclock

Part Reviews

CPU

Suffers greatly from overheating. Not recommended, unless you plan on de-lidding.

CPU Cooler

Not much of an improvement over the reguler h100I. In addition its slightly bigger due to rounded edges which may come as a surprise to those who buy it. Had to install mine really screwed to make it fit.

Motherboard

Superb motherboard, no problems works as it should. overclocking tool a bit bad though.

Storage

Slightly underwhelmed but fast and cheap.

Video Card

Very quiet, low tempts even when overclocked. Really good card.

Case

Parts are flimsy and badly made. Too light as well.

Power Supply

No noise at all. works fine haven't had any problems.

Comments Sorted by:

geoffg67 2 Builds 6 points 18 months ago

I suggest de-lidding it or making sure the voltage is actually the lowest it can be. From what I know auto overclock tools are pretty trash and give way too much voltage which hurts temps a lot

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

DeltaForceGM01 4 points 18 months ago

just buy a de-lidding tool it makes it easy and cheap

geoffg67 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I've never heard of anybody going out to have a company do it for them.... Everyone just buys the kit for it

Luckiestluck 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

i think at the time, kabylake was current

geoffg67 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

what

Gooberdad 10 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Second all that.

skyrise 1 Build 4 points 18 months ago

NICE PEPSI CUP! :)

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

:)

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

IKR

Wolf88 4 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Can you return it and get a 6700k?

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Once overclocked, the warranty of the product is voided, therefore preventing the ability to return.

Wolf88 4 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

How can they tell ?

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

You'd have to RMA it for a reason, they might check it when you send it.

If not, then they probably can't.

Wolf88 4 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Ha yeah I guess the only way to get outrageous temps on a hot cpu is to OC it, but 75c at stock...guess that’s not enough to RMA I suppose.

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

You: Hey Intel I'm getting 90C on my CPU.
Intel: Why?
You: Uhhhhhhhhhhh....

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BurntSilicon. 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

What? The whole reason for a K processor is so you can OC it. The warranty doesn't include damage caused by overclocking.

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BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Nobody did, but he still voids the warranty by overclocking his CPU.

wsauers 2 points 18 months ago

You could have gone with the i5 8400 its good for the price and can overclock to 4.0 gHz

saphyron submitter 1 Build 0 points 18 months ago

PC was bought and build back in february.

wsauers 1 point 17 months ago

oh

NN_22 2 points 18 months ago

My 7700k uses an oem 120mm aio and stays pretty cool. I guess some 7700k's are unlucky

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Velocitron2000 2 points 18 months ago

Delid it, when on load, it can reduce temperatures by about 20-30 degrees.

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Agreed... Worked for me. 7700k it known for bad core tm and they run hot even at stock

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

Fatroadcop 1 point 18 months ago

https://www.caseking.de/en/der8auer-delid-die-mate-2-fsd8-019.html I hope that that can help you. But be in mind it will void your warranty, so be careful with whatever thermal compound you're going to be using.

Setec 2 points 18 months ago

It sucks that delidding is almost mandatory now for overclocking recent Intel CPUs. But it is what it is. You can delid it yourself or send it in to SiliconLottery and have them do it for $40.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

In addition this pc was build back in february

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

More pictures and description please

PS. There's a whole community here just itching to help with your heat issues.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

If the community know of a de-lidder in Denmark that can gurantee my CPU That would immensely help me. Otherwise I don't have the money to replace it and have to live with a 7700K I can't overclock.

Gooberdad 10 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Add that to your description. Let's see who can help.

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

You could try to delid the CPU yourself. There are even kits that are sold online that make it easier and Youtube tutorials on how to do it.

Not exactly cheap though, but it might be worth it.

Sam_Flynn 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

What was your worst decision? This PC or the 7700K? If you want, you can go to the 7700 or even the 7700t to lower the temp.

LeMMingSlayeR 24 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Undervolting the CPU is always an option. It would kind of defeat the purpose of a K series processor, but would definitely help with temps.

I'm surprised that even the H100i v2 can't tame this beast, I had that same AIO and it kept my old FX-8350 under 60c even when overclocked to 4.6ghz. That 7700k must put out some HEAT...

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

cawzie 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Can't RMA it?

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

8 month since I bought but as soon I overclocked it warrenty is void. And while the temps is high. according to intels own statement that is supposed to be normal. So either way it would not go through.

maxday68 1 point 18 months ago

They have no way to check if it was overclocked really so it would go through just fine as long as it is functional

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cawzie 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Also the AM4 socket is supposed to be good until 2020 I believe so you wont have to buy a new motherboard when AMD releases a new CPU. A refresh is being done in 2018 on 10nm if I am not mistaken.

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texasmayne 4 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Delid that hole

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

In addition this pc was build back in february

lombasti 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

my 7700k runs @5ghz @ 77c with h115 thats under prime 95

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I'm confused, I have an i7 7700k on a be quiet! dark rock 3 and temps seem to be alright. Do you mean that cpu is overheating in general or while overclocking?

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

40-75 celsius while not overclocked. My last test which was a 4.4Ghz overclock temps were 85-98 celsius

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Holy crap! And with an AIO water cooler! Dude, you got a bad CPU. I think you can (and should) exchange it for another one (that what I would do).

Or you could return your CPU and motherboard for a refund and go with AMD (who I have no quarrel with. Stick with the brands you prefer).

Do which ever you think is best (time wise or financial wise or preference wise), but definitely get a refund or exchange your current CPU because those temps are not right at all.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 18 months ago

As soon I overclocked my CPU I was not able to return as per the standard agreement. And while the CPU tempts is high as per the statement of intel regarding the 7700k and I qoute "We do not recommend running outside the processor specifications, such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications, or removing of the integrated heat spreader (sometimes called ‘de-lidding’). These actions will void the processor warranty.” Those 2 combined = no return or even a penny if I returned it.

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

That's bullcrap! They market it as 7700K! What's the point of selling a CPU that is meant to be overclockable, advertised for overclocking capabilities, and marketed for overclocking potential with motherboards on the market that have dials to overclock the CPU for you, if you don't want them to overclock the CPU to begin with? I mean I get that there are people who take overclocking to the extreme and can kill the CPU or shorten its lifespan but still. That messed up!

Forget what I said about returning it. You already don't have a warranty on that thing anyway. Go for broke, do what everyone else suggests and delid that puppy. Use liquid metal even. Gotta keep those thermals down.

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Little late for that mate, but I do agree, those temps are unusual.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

“We appreciate the feedback you have provided, and your patience as we investigated this behavior. The reported behavior of the 7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700K Processor, showing momentary temperature changes from the idle temperature, is normal while completing a task (like opening a browser or an application or a program)."

Intel's response to everyone who had high temps with thier i7-7700k

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

See, look. Intel cares and are doing everything they can to make it right

...NOT

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I didn't see the date of build till after I posted that, my bad.

But ya, a majority of companies have a "I don't really care about your problem" reputation. Except for be quiet! (as far as my experience went) Lost one of my fastening nuts trying to install the cpu cooler, shot out an email to them about my situation, got a replacement set for free. (Took two weeks, but they are located in Europe while I live in the US) (Also found the missing nut after emailing them).

I wish intel had that kind of service.

pegotico 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Sadly like all other I7-7700K, it suffers greatly from overheating even with my corsair h100I v2.

Try updating to latest bios 1009 if you haven't...

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z270G-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/

Also eventhough you should connect the H100 pump to CPU_FAN header, you need to disable any speed controlling on that header. It has to run at full speed so disable any auto settings on that header.

Hope this helps! :)

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Yep worked that out pretty early. was wondering why the cpu cooling was goin g up and down..

Currently my cpu is at facttory clock and only then it does not overheat much (only 75 under load)

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Huh, 75C.

I have a 6600K (stock clock) hooked up to an H55 and it rarely surpasses 50C while gaming.

It's a shame Intel is using cheaper thermal compound for connecting the CPU die to the metal heat sync/spreader.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

my old i7-4770k I had before this one was overclocked to 4.2Ghz and with my h100i CPU cooling, it never ran above 45 Celsius.

seemingly the new 8700k suffer from the same problem so I don't recommend it either.

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I has the same problem. I delid my stock 7700k and temps dropped up to 20c... Someone said adjust the voltage and even though my cpu got cooler with the delid I still might try that too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/WtWD4D

I have a graph, delid pictures and results

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

And I have a 360mm aio cooler and it still was getting hot

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Yep delidding is the only way to fix this. sadly there is no company's nearby that offer this where I live.

And I don't have the money if it ***** up by doing it myself.

In addition this pc was build back in february

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I purchased the kit for around $40, grizzly metal tm was $15. I watched a video or 2 on YouTube and it was extremely easy and fun to do. Sold the delid kit after for $38. It was a good experience and I honestly don't see how someone could eff it up

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

What thermal paste are you currently using? Try rethermal with a top line tm and lower stock volts maybe... I'm going to lower mine tonight and see if there any results

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

currently using.... one from Thermaltake can't remember its name tbh.

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Get a better thermal paste and that alone might drop temps by 5c, lower volts and you will be better

I use this tm: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Grease Paste - 1.0 Gram

BurntSilicon. 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Coollaboratory Liquid :D

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Here is one of many " i7 7700k too high stock voltage" threads to be found. I'd lower volts first of delid can't be done... Good luck and let us know your temps after.

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

With stock speed its not overheating but if I try to overclock it is.

40-75 celsius at factory clock 4,2Ghz 85-98 celsius at overclocking 4,4Ghz

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

To me overheating is temps higher than it should be, not really danger temps. I like 60c-70c not 80c on stock even tho it not dangerous... It just heats up everything too in the long run as well and depletes the life span of ever part in your pc

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Yep but if I underclock it, then technically I paid for a CPU thats worse than my old i7-4770k since that one was overclocked to 4.2Ghz. The only thing I will have going for me new pc is then DDR4 RAM. I am hoping to find someone who delidding in the area I live. Either that or I will wait for the 9000 series of intel. and then do a new upgrade.

customgtp 24 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I wouldn't underclock, just lower the stock voltage. Is your cpu oc'd... Sorry didn't pick that up

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Right now its running at factory settings.

RicardoGTX 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Nice

DeltaForceGM01 1 point 18 months ago

your on a micro atx motherboard you should expect a lot of OC plus you dont really need to overclock it anyway it is pretty good stock

Gentleman00 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Holy moly, that's pretty high for water cooler. I suggest you buy the de-lid tool, just make sure you have some silicon to put the IHS back and thermal compound/liquid metal. It's really easy, trust me, just gotta keep calm.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

40 on idle? my friend has a 7700k with an air cooler and his idle temps arent that high.. did you put the thermal paste correctly on?

drferrell 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Shot in the dark on this question; Any issues with your AIO cooler that might not be cooling it properly? Maybe try another type of thermal paste? Just want to make sure that all these possibilities have been checked before coming to a final decision.

rqqt 1 point 18 months ago

Get a proper ergonomic office chair.

Worst decision of your life is not wastng $2,000 but the possible lifelong injury from ****** ergonomics.

Air_Wizardo 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Overheating? Strange... I overclocked my i7-7700k on air (NHNoctua - NH-U12S with 2 fans) to 4.8GHz, and it hovers around 80C when playing Battlefield 1.

zmac0135 1 point 18 months ago

Sorry to hear about your issues with the 7700k mate. I understand being hesitant about delidding, but I would strongly recommend it. If you don't have any companies near you, you can still do it yourself. I know a lot of people have fear of delidding and have a negative feelings about it, but they make kits now where you can do it very easily and it is super simple. The vice and razor techniques made me very nervous lol. So I understand your hesitancy but now it is so much more simple and safe. Regardless of what you choose to do, I hope you get things lined out. Cheers and best wishes friend.

yveshe 5 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I was curious about why were you underwhelmed by the NVMe SSD?

saphyron submitter 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

Initially, when I bought the pc I went for the 960 pro m2.2280 SSD. Sadly the company I bought from ****** up their homepage and there was a massive waiting list. for the SSD.

They then offered me the 961 with the promise it would result in almost same speed and they would refund me 200 DKK. Thus my parts would all be sent the day after instead of waiting 2 months.

Sadly the speed on the 961 I got was sub-par compared to others when testing it. Roughly 30% worse. But it was still much faster than anything I had seen before thus the slightly underwhelmed review.

yveshe 5 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

I see...

Flip_45 1 point 13 months ago

Late to the party I realise, but I don't see it anywhere in the comments:

Have you tried under-volting from stock settings? Generally stock settings are such that they are way over the actual requirements for maintaining the advertised 'boost' clock, to ensure that such boost is guaranteed.

I.e. you may find that you can dial-in a 4.2GHz 'overclock' at a meaningful amount lower-than-stock VCore, which in turn will reduce the thermal output and could improve temps a lot.

Once you have that stable, you may be able to find, by increments, a slight or even decent overclock at reasonable temps, and getting some benefit out of the "K". Monitor VCore during stress tests in case the mobo is actually supplying more than you specify (load line calibration), as that setting may also need tightening.

Another thing to check would be good coverage/application of thermal paste between the chip and cooling plate - perhaps re-try applying/seating the cooler?

saphyron submitter 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Greetings all, updates to the CPU situation.

Ever since I got it I've tried every trick in the book to overclock the CPU without having to delid since I still don't have the money to replace in case I **** up.

I have managed a stable overclock at 4,5 GHz at 70-75 Celsius. 85 Celsius after a 3-hour stress test. I did manage to overclock it to 4,948 GHz. As can be seen here https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26207298 But the temperature was hovering between 95-105 Celsius so I wisely downclocked it again, since I'm hoping for it to last to a minimum for the 9000 series. I have a buyer of the computer when I decide to upgrade. He will pay less than 1/3 that I paid for it since its used. But it will help fund my new pc.

Thank you for all the hints in comments.