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Christmas 2017 Intel 8th Gen HTPC Build for Mom and Dad

by sponix

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Date Published

Dec. 28, 2017

Date Built

Dec. 25, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

2.8GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

40.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

75.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.22GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7.01GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

34.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

50.0° C

Description

Build was fairly simple and straight forward in the Corsair 380T.

If I had been thinking clearly I would have put the Ram sticks in prior to mounting the CPU Cooler, because dropping them in later was a mixture of working angles, having patience, and a little luck.

Fan mounting clips are a real pain for the Cooler Master GeminII M4 Cooler, to the point I would recommend leaving the Fan on to avoid having to mess with them. I stripped the fan off first thing to make mounting it a slight bit easier, but wished I had fought the urge to do it that way.

G. Skill Memory has no heat spreaders as it appears, that is actually just a sticker on the ram. Other than that it fired right up and ran at 2400 out of the box. I dropped an OC on it to 2666 for a bit and it ran fine. But since it is my parents Rig and stability is the Real Goal I dropped it back down just to ensure there are no issues since I didn't have time to do any stress test to validate an OC.

Toshiba 3TB for Mass storage does just that.. Stores Masses of things at a decent speed.

MSI GTX 960 2G is a pull from my youngest sons Rig since he got a GPU Upgrade to a XFX RX 580 8G.

Corsair 380T should be brought back to the market again. It is an excellent Case and travels well for anyone with small hands to wrap around the handle.

EVGA G3 750 is just a work of art. Plenty of Power, Dead Silent, Great Cabling, and plenty of accessory cables to hookup anything you should desire. Way Overkill for this build. But I got it at a good price and had it collecting dust, so figured I would put it to use.


Please Check out my other Builds:

2018 FEB GPU Mining Rig Build

2018 FEB Upgrade to BGninja 2015

Christmas 2017 Update to Deadpool 2016

Christmas 2017 Update to BlueKnight 2016

Christmas 2017 Build of i5 8400 HTPC for the Parents

Part Reviews

CPU

Intel Core i5-8400 For a 65W Chip this is truly amazing. It nearly keeps up with my 140W 5820K Chip and the iGPU will playback 4K after a bit of tinkering to get it setup with Linux. It also Mines AEON at nearly the rate of my 5820K, Cost Less, and burns way less power. Only thing I can knock on this chip is the temps run about 10 Degrees higher than any other Chip in the House due to the Poor Thermal Interface Material (TIM) that Intel used under the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS). It operates well within normal range though, so no throttling occurs, just warmer than others with better TIM. Only solution for the temp would be to De-Lid the Chip, apply a better TIM (or Liquid Metal), place the IHS back on and watch the temp drop 10 Degrees or More. Glad I did get the Locked 65W though, the Unlocked K series with a higher TDP may have heat issues because of the stock TIM quality.

CPU Cooler

Fan mounting clips are a real pain for the Cooler Master GeminII M4 CPU Cooler, to the point I would recommend leaving the Fan on to avoid having to mess with them. I stripped the fan off first thing to make mounting it a slight bit easier, but wished I had fought the urge to do it in that manor. Cooler is LARGE, that is a 140mm Fan on there. On any Mini ITX Board you are limited to Low Profile Ram for sure. Stuff I used didn't even have heat spreaders and the sticks still barely fit. Board was an ASRock Z370 Mini ITX, and Ram was G.Skill Aegis. Corsair LPX will likely fit, but I have my doubts about anything else taller, especially in Mini ITX Form factor builds.

Motherboard

ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX Motherboard Board does what it needs to do and the UEFI BIOS is easy to navigate. Wish it had another Fan Header or two, but with Mini ITX the board space itself limits what all you can have on there. Easy solution is to just run a Y-cable or a Fan Hub. Did a fast Memory OC from 2400 to 2666 on the G.Skill 2400 DDR4 and it seemed to take it just fine. Turned it back off before pushing the Rig out the door though because I didn't have time to validate stability of the OC.

Memory

G.Skill Aegis 16G 2 x 8G DDR4 2400 Low Profile Ram As Low Profile as DDR4 can get. These have no heat spreaders, just a black and red sticker covering up the sides. Dropped it in an ASRock Z370 Mini ITX Board and it took off and ran just fine. Also did a quick OC to 2666 by just selecting that speed and it ran fine. I didn't have time to validate stability with an OC though, so just dropped it back to stock 2400 before shipping the system out the door.

Storage

Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 2280 SSD Stick Performed on par with or better than my Samsung 850 Pro 256GB drive. Blazing Fast on the ASRock Z370 Mini ITX board with an i5 8400 chip. Boots in mere seconds with Linux Mint 18.3 on it. Nothing to complain about. If you are in the Market for an Price to Performance SSD the MX300 is a solid choice, no need to look anywhere else IMHO..

Storage

Toshiba P300 3TB 3.5 inch 7200RPM spinning rust Fast for a spinning disk and is currently retaining data just fine. Can't ask for much more IMHO. Comes Bare, no Sata Cable, mounting hardware or Anything of the sort. So just plan ahead for that..

Video Card

MSI GTX 960 2G is Overkill as mentioned prior and makes a truly awesome HTPC Card that also looks good in the process. Make no Mistakes. These Cards are NOT Small. It takes up a FULL Two Slots in the Case, and the Length extends out fairly long. BUT this is the price you pay for a Great Cooler on your Graphics Card. Just like the HUGE CPU Heat sink, if you want your GPU to be Cool, it has to have a Huge amount of Surface area to dissipate the Heat also.. These Cards Mine Monero at roughly 250 H/s each with stock BIOS and No Over Clocking. When Mining they run at roughly 50C with the Fans set at 60% speed while drawing only 52 Watts of Power.. Plays back two 4K Videos, or 4 1080p with no issues. Also games fairly well at 1080p.

Case

Corsair 380T Minit ITX Tower Case - Discontinued The build was fairly simple and straight forward in the Corsair 380T. The Corsair 380T should be brought back to the market again. It is an excellent Case and travels well for anyone with small hands to wrap around the handle. Integrated Fan Controller works for up to 3 Fans. Layout was easy to work with. Cable Management was a bit of a chore, but that is kind of the nature of Mini ITX most of the time. Love the in the Case White LED Light with switch to show off the CPU Area. Just don't let my folks know this case sells for over $400 now that it is discontinued Grin..

Power Supply

EVGA G3 750 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX is just a work of art. Plenty of Power, Dead Silent, Great Cabling, and plenty of accessory cables to hookup anything you should desire. Way Overkill for this build. But I got it at a good price and had it collecting dust, so figured I would put it to use. There is a reason Miners are grabbing these up by the handful, the cables alone make it Top Notch compared to other lesser Power Supply Units. Have 2 of these running in Rigs so far, and won't hesitate to use another for my next build. Highly recommend not passing these up if you can get them for anything under $120, Seriously...

Comments Sorted by:

camdix 1 point 9 months ago

Hi there, I made a very similar build as you, except with the following differences: Intel i5-8400 GTX 1070 Ti G.skill Tridentz 3200 Link here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XCMhsJ

I'm having a problem where my RAM sticks keep dying. First one died 2 days after turning it on, second one died a day or two later. They seem to die after I turn the computer off for a while.

Did you have to change any settings in BIOS for RAM to work properly? Do you have any idea why this would happen?

Thanks!

sponix submitter 6 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

I would recommend trying a different type of Ram. But with Ram being so expensive that is easier said than done.

No settings in BIOS were required on the G.Skill Aegis 2400 sticks. Just popped them in and everything took off. Most of the time that is how Ram should be.

Either you have bad luck with sticks, or your Board has issues with the Slots. I would try cleaning both the sticks and the slots with Q-Tips and Rubbing Alcohol (70 percent or higher).

If that doesn't resolve it, you are probably looking at a RMA on your board. If Ram doesn't run at stock BIOS settings out of the box, normally there is an issue. I did in fact do a BIOS update, but the system was already up and running on the Ram and I used the system itself to download the update prior to installing.

Like your parts list. Seems like you will be doing some Gaming with that 1070Ti in there..

Anyway, hope this helps....

camdix 1 point 9 months ago

Thanks for the help! I've tried a few of those things, but I have also been told the TridentZ series has had this problem frequently. I just returned the G.Skill (still in return period) and installed Corsair Vengeance and it seems to be doing just fine so far!

sponix submitter 6 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Most of the time, you can just turn on "XMP" profile for the memory to run at its rated speed. Especially on a kit that is just say 2400. BUT, I recently got a 3466 kit, and it runs fast enough you have to manually put in the settings. I can't even find the settings for it yet so I poked in the manual settings to make it run a 3200 that I found within a reputable hardware review for the same Corsair LPX kit, that is just rated to run a bit slower.

Normally Ram is crap right off. Or it runs forever. I do find it odd that you are having repeat issues with the ram though. That alone leads me to think it might actually be the ram slots on the board. That is a bit rare, but not unheard of for sure.

Sebba 1 point 8 months ago

Would you reccommend the I5 8400 for gaming? How much do you think it will last? more than 3 years?

I7 8700K + MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon + Corsair H110i = 950USD

I5 8400 + MSI Z370 SLI PLUS (or H370 when it comes out) + Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi = 500USD

Wich option would you choose and why? I really like the performace of the I5 8400 but I don't know how much it will last me Btw nice build! Congrats!

sponix submitter 6 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

The 6 cores on the 8400 are strong, and it should be able to handle modern game titles for several years (2 or 3 at least).

The 8700K isn't going to do much better at all at "Gaming" only on heavy multi-threaded workloads like video editing and extreme multi-tasking.

With the Money you save on the CPU, you can Get a Much better GPU, and that will define your gaming experience much more in most titles.

If Gaming is the Focus, definitely go with the i5, and put that extra cash into other components in your build, like a Good Quality Power Supply, and a Nice Graphics Card (if you can find one in stock).

Also, I just got an i5-8600K recently to upgrade my Youngest Son's Aging Z97 4690K platform. And that also does really well. Happened to pair that with the Cryorig H7 CPU Cooler, and for the price it is pretty Amazing. Fan at default was running at 300 RPM, and keeping the idle temp at 30C right about where my much more expensive Noctua NH-U14 keeps things.

Jlofa51 1 point 8 months ago

Hey is the led light on the bottom of the motherboard rgb? Or is it just red, because I've been looking everywhere for the answer and I can't get a difinitive answer anywhere. It'd be great information if you don't mind. Thanks

sponix submitter 6 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Across the side of the Motherboard there is a string of RGB LED's.. I just had them on pulsating Red though in the settings (through the BIOS).

Jlofa51 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks man I'm planning on getting the same motherboard but just wanted to know if they were rgb or just red like the stock picture shows everywhere.

sponix submitter 6 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

They are RGB for sure. You can make them do a rainbow effect if you want.