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Valar Morghulis

by mijretrop

Description

For the non game of thrones fans: Valar morghulis is a sort of honor phrase often said in the GOT worlds. It translates to "All Men Must Die". This theme was inspired by the House of Black and White and the Faceless Men. The logo on the front-bottom-right is a silhouette i created from the coin Aria gave the faceless man. The silhouette in the back is one i created from an image of Jaqen H'ghar. I thought it would be funny to put a Paul's Hardware t-shirt on him.

As far as the build process:

My last build (https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zNTBD3) had been sitting around with a bad motherboard for months. I finally decided to do a quick weekend project to get it off the floor.

I made the 2 1/2 hour drive to Fry's Electronics in Renton WA only to find that it wasn't the same place it used to be.

I needed a new graphics card since i didn't originally intend to do a custom loop and couldn't find the fans for my 1080 but all they had in stock was 1070's and below. My target gaming range is +60 FPS on at least very high quality on a 3440 x 1449 monitor so a 1070 would be less than ideal.

They didn't have a single Z270 board or anything that would run an i7 7700K for that matter, their case inventory was slim and they only had 1 AIO type in stock (Enermax).

I wasn't going to make a 5 hour round trip and not get a computer built out of it so after a few hours of walking around, reading reviews and visiting PCPP on my phone I decided this case and motherboard would make a good looking stock combo. I added the enermax AIO to my cart went to the counter to get an I7 8700k only to find -big shock- they didn't have any in stock.

Now I might not be the first person and probably not the last to grudge buy a CPU but that's pretty much what i did with this CPU. I did get a good deal on it though. I was bound and determined to build a computer that weekend.

And that's what i did. The next morning i woke up, borrowed the 1080ti from what is now my back up build, ordered a 2080 from amazon and created what was a fairly nice stock build.

My 2080 came in two days later and i was happy. Then the mod bug started nibbling away.

I started noticing how much the stock cables stuck out. I didn't feel like burning my fingers off for hours making my own for a quick build so I ordered some from someone else.

Then- That back plate didn't look quite right in this build so I though i'd make a custom one Then- As long as i'm making a back plate, i might as well make a PSU shroud cover to add a bit more white to the build Then- The Emermax AIO was performing just fine but seemed a waste to have an EK CPU Block, several EK Rads, an Alphacool D5 PWM pump and all those fittings just laying around, might as well do a loop for the CPU Then- It seemed dumb to do a loop just for the CPU so I might as well order a block for the RTX 2080 Then- The USB 3.0 header on the flagship NZXT MoBo is in the worst possible place when mounting into the flagship NZXT case (you can see in the before and after pic) so out came the dremell

Then-Then-Then It just kept building up until 6 weekends later, my "quick weekend project" was done.

Part Reviews

Motherboard

This is a very good looking MoBo. The armor snaps in and out so you can easily remove and add your own custom paint job. 3 USB 2.0 headers and a USB 3.0 front header. No type c though :(. More Fan headers then you will likely ever need. One reviewer said he had a hard time screwing the board to the case with the armor on. I'm not sure why he didn't just remove the armor to screw it down. It also features 2 RGB headers that can power 4 strips and 5 RGB fans. The BIOS on this board is not very good and it's very pricey for the funcionality. If you are looking for a board for a custom build and willing to sacrifice on an easy to follow BIOS this is the board for you.

Case

This is a good case if you want something that looks nice out of the box. Cable management potential is above average but this isn't an ideal case for water cooling. I could only fit a slim 360 up top and would have had a hard time putting a Rad with fans in the front and still have room for the pump/res etc. As you can see from my build, water cooling is doable in this case but there are better cases if that is your goal.

The biggest complaint i have with this case is when pairing it with the NZXT motherboard the placement of the 3.0 USB header is in a terrible place for cable management. I had to cut into the case to get the Front Panel header to fit right without it laying across the PSU shroud awkwardly. You can see it in one of the before/after pics on my build.

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Granddy 7 points 2 months ago

From 1 to 10, the build looks ******* sick.

+1

FivePercent 1 point 2 months ago

So....... a 10 then?

Granddy 4 points 2 months ago

I gave it a ******* sick man.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks that's an awesome comment!

FivePercent 2 points 2 months ago

Indeed, just bustin' ya bawls man :)

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FivePercent 1 point 24 days ago

I don't understand what you mean

WPK_Tater 5 points 2 months ago

I call feature. If I’m correct I get your totally knarly pc

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 4 points 2 months ago

Hah! Might be worth it though. Would be cool to get a feature.

WPK_Tater 5 points 2 months ago

I called it

WPK_Tater 2 points 2 months ago

JK. Nicely done it looks superb. I really think this will get featured

Brianzzl 4 points 2 months ago

Valar Dohaeris

Brianzzl 2 points 2 months ago

Nice and clean, that build is gorgeous.

LIVE_AMMO 3 points 2 months ago

This looks cleaner than my colgate toothbrush! (+1)

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

LOL, what do you think I filled the loop with?

CelluloidRacer2 2 points 2 months ago

Not toothpaste?

NinjaKoala217 1 point 2 months ago

Vodka?

RoyalSovereign 2 points 2 months ago

HARDCORE !!!

Fleacircus 3 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

I knew, eventually, someone would make this case look good. Well done.

Brycesgarage 2 points 2 months ago

Valar Dohaeris

Excellent build. Awesome parts to match the aesthetics.

Gibbytronix 2 points 2 months ago

All I can say is WOW Sick build dude

JJAMSUPER 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

1080ti for backup? lol

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

LOL I knew someone was going to give me a bad time about this.

Wolklung 1 point 2 months ago

Those NZXT boards look super clean! A very nice machine you've setup there.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah it's a great looking MB, not a great bios and not an easy overclock but Aesthetically great and lots of headers (3 USB 2.0, 1 USB 3.0, like 8 Fan headers)

anonymousdingo2320 1 point 2 months ago

Really cool build! Looks awesome. +1

bobbysix 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Very nice build - have you OCed your i5 8600k and how does it pair with the 2080?

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Not yet, I just haven't had time to get into the BIOS to work on it and the NZXT BIOS doesn't exactly look user friendly to me. I'll get around to it though. I'm not one to spend time benchmarking the differences so all i have is anecdotal comparisons, but the pairing seems to be on par with the I7-7700K and GTX 1080 ti I have in my other build both of those are slightly over clocked. The benchmarks I've seen show only single digit frame rate differences between the I5-8600k and I7-8700K at 1440P when both are overclocked.

bobbysix 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I have an i5 8600k overclocked to 4.9 GHz with a GTX 1080. I’m able to hit 60 FPS at 1440p with high/very high settings. I was just wondering which would be the bottleneck with a 8600k and RTX 2080.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I'm at work now so can't check other games, the only one i remember for sure is averaging 77 fps on very high settings on Assassin's Creed origins. If i crank it up to ultra settings it occasionally drops below 60 which bugs me. That's with no overclock on either component.

Hope that helps

bobbysix 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Yes, it seems that at high settings the GPU is more important than the CPU so the 8600k doesn’t seem to bottleneck the RTX 2080 to any degree.

Sensible_Systems 53 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Calling a build with an RTX 20-series card in it "Valar morghulis" seems like tempting fate to me ;-)

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Uh Oh, good point! I posted this before i left for work, then on my way to work I thought a better name would have been "a computer has no name"

DuoOne 1 point 2 months ago

Wow, the red and white color scheme is so cool!

biggles5107 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Nice custom watercooling and acrylic job, my dude! Why isn't this build featured??

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks for the positive feedback. That acrylic work took a lot of time for me and more iterations than i would have liked but i'm way happy with it.

MiggityMiner 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

wow! such an amazing build! I motion for a feature, please

drunkbadger 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Really nice build!!!

cheezmeister 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

whoa buddy the gpu sag

nice build though, glad that white and red works +1

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

thanks, there is a bit of GPU lag there but it's not as much as it seems. There is a cut out for the slot lever that puts a big ball of black in the wrong place. I started to 3d print a bracket for it but when I lifted the edge of the card up, it didn't make nearly as much difference as you would think it would have.

Bri_Fi 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

This build is amazing!

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you so much!

DualLED 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Yo make sure to use the cable combs, not that your cables look messy, just sayin', they're kind of just chillin at weird spots on the cables

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I tried to get them "chilling" in inconspicuous places. I prefer the look without combs. I worked that GPU cable quite a bit but couldn't get the combs hidden on that one.

lipan02 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

God damn genius! This is an eye candy for sure. I like how the placement of the reservoir. Gratz dude!

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks. The first iteration had the reservoir sitting on the included bracket but just looked too far back so I made a custom brace for it.

shreduhsoreus 6 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

The only thing I don't like about this is the lack of a GPU brace, I can see the sag. You can get one on Amazon for under $15 that's fairly minimalist(and in my opinion, improves the look anyway).

Also, yeah, Fry's is awful these days. They hire people who know jack **** about PC's and components(saw a $2900 X299 build on display with a 7900X and the RAM running in single channel mode lol). Nothing but salesmen, they still pay commission.

Anvil_of_War 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

It's so amazingly clean.

The paint and custom graphics/mods are so well executed.

Congratulations on the feature, well earned.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks. I'm so excited about the feature. We do this because we love to do it, but it's nice to get a thumbs up from people who love doing it as well. Most of the people in my life are more like "wait, you put water in it????"

pickypicnic 1 point 2 months ago

Wow, this is so cool! It looks like how people thought technology of the future would look like in the '80s.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I like to think it's what the faceless men use in their office :)

KrayyonHD 1 point 2 months ago

GG, you put all the money into the monitor, almost 1K into the monitor and you got an 8600K

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I've had that monitor since it came out (2 years?). The difference in performance is single digit FPS nearly across the board at 1440p. That being said. If the 9700K's were out or an 8700K was in stock when i bought it, i would have got one of those.

Wackadoodle 1 point 2 months ago

Thing has more pipes than a Super Mario Bros lvl.

Wackadoodle 1 point 2 months ago

Thing has more pipes than a Super Mario Bros lvl.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Hah, that's what one of my friends at work said. He couldn't understand why I used water in my computer.

JJdotMC 1 point 2 months ago

just busted a nut

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Please aim away from the keyboard :)

xconnor 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Wow this build is amazing! That motherboard does a great job of making this PC look really sleek and modern. and those BeNdS!!! this deserves the feature for sure. well done!

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thank you!. This is my second attempt at a custom loop. I left WAY less PETG on the floor of the garage this time :). Anyone who's having troubles with bending, just know it gets easier.

Otterman366 13 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

how is the n7 treating you?

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Aesthetically I can't think of a better board. It has a USB 3.0 header, 3 USB 2.0 headers, 2 RGB headers and more fan headers than you can shake a stick at. I love the fact that the SATA connections do not share or take bandwidth away from the 2 M.2 slots. The bios however leaves a lot to be desired and though I still haven't taken the time to OC. I've heard it's not the best power delivery for that. But if you care more about the look than the performance, that removable/paintable armor can't be beat and it's not like it greatly under performs, just really needs a more user friendly bios

solin_c 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Is that GPU sag or is it the hard line tubing pushing down? I'm just concerned about this because I see two tubes in contact right above the DIMMs and am wondering if that is causing the GPU to be pushed downward. Sick build though.Modding done great and RGB in exactly the right places. Clean and professional.

+1

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It's definitely sag. 4 mm of sag to be exact (from brace to the end of the gpu). It was there before I put the tubing in. It just wasn't as noticeable until after i got everything built and painted. The back plate and the cover i made for that upper M.2 slot made it stick out much more.

Aquilian 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Nice one, congrats! +1

Slingshott 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Let’s go. Fellow WA native. I used to be Paul Allen’s neighbor so you probably know where that is

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Significantly North of Fry's =)

Is there any place over there still to buy high end PC parts? I live on the other side of the sound now and the closest place for me is Best Buy in Silverdale which is a 40 minute drive. I would't mind the drive at all if there were good parts. There used to be a computer stop near Bell Red road that was awesome, but looks like that closed down.

Slingshott 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

I just buy online. I mean there’s a Best Buy in Bellevue by Trader Joe’s and Homegoods and REI but that’s about it

beardedmisfit 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Solid job! I love it! +1

SirMints 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Really sick bends. Good work.

MooseTech 1 point 2 months ago

Wow! Feature Build for sure. The Red Tubing makes it pop. I love that you painted your case yourself. I did it once myself. I did notice how you minimalized your view of the combs, and figured you spent some time 'staging' those wires. Your later comments confirmed it. Great job.

ROBEALEX 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

How much did the custom tubing, blocks, reservoir and pump cost?

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It was left over from my last build so I don't remember for sure. I'd estimate $500-$700

Otaku1214 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

One of the best and cleanest custom loops I've seen on this site. +1 Cable management is insane.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks, your build was very clean as well!

kulabro2292 1 point 2 months ago

I thought I was in **** hub for a sec there

trylaarsdam 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Where's the pump lol I can't find it

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Dang, I knew i forgot something :)

It's nudged under the PSU shroud

Dekasnabu 1 point 2 months ago

An over all clean build. However, in my opinion, the GPU water block looks better when not using Hardline tubing. In example, Kyle from the YouTube channel BitWit's hotline 2.0 build.

NeverEndingYT 1 point 1 month ago

Where did you get the Power supply cover from?

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 29 days ago

I made it out of Acrylic Sheets

Shakaron 4 Builds -1 points 2 months ago

Am I the only one who sees a huge cooling system design flaw here?!

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/pumps/alphacool-pumps/20544/alphacool-vpp655-pwm-g1/4-inner-thread-including-eisdecke-d5-plexi-v.3

The specification says that the pump should not run hotter than 60 C.

The way the liquid loop is designed, and correct me if I'm wrong, is the following:

reservoir > pump > radiator > CPU > GPU > reservoir

This means, that the reservoir will contain the warm/hot cooling liquid from the CPU and the GPU. This will ultimately (after a prolonged use) will heat up.

In other words, the temperature of the liquid is the lowest after leaving the radiator. It constantly raises until getting back to the radiator.

Thus the pump will have the hottest liquid all the time, which will reduce the lifespan of the pump.

I would love to see some liquid temperatures at the pump after a few hours of a gaming session.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

This has been tested and argued to death. It makes little to no difference.
Temps are going to be significantly different at any one stage of a loop.

My bigger concern over loop order was the fact that i could only fit a slim 360 rad up top but that seems to be just fine. I gamed for about two hours over the weekend (assassins creed origins very high settings at 3440 X 1440) and saw no issues with temps at all.

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Should have said "temps aren't going to be significantly different".

And yes that was two consecutive hours of gaming

Shakaron 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Did you measure your temperatures? What were your measurements?

Can you show me some reference to those tests you mentioned?

mijretrop submitter 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Search google. "Does loop order matter". Jayz2Cents has a video on it, I think Linus did a video on it and there are a ton of forum posts.

Shakaron 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

If I'm not mistaken, all of those videos talk about CPU and GPU temperatures, not about the temperature of the cooling liquid at the pump.

So they are not exactly relevant to my concern: the pump needs cooling as well and it receives the heat from all the other components.

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